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I preach mechanics in every aspect of the game and do drills to get them going correctly, but unless players practice it on their own as well and buy into it, they’ll always revert back to their old habits then the following practice we have to repeat all the instructions again. It’s pretty frustrating.
I pitched from little league to highschool and at age 13 I played travel baseball for coaches that played pro or college. Now I never made it to the pro or college level but I was taught well by those who did. Now I was taught as a pitcher to throw at a 45 degree angle and to pronate your throwing arm and make sure that you create an L shape and release the ball next to your ear. But as an infielder you have to have a short release point because you might have to turn a double play or get the fast runner out at first. The best way to avoid arm trouble is to throw as much as you can and make sure that you throw properly with easy tosses to begin with and then throw long tosses as well and make sure that you stretch properly as well. For those of you who are wanting to play at the highschool level and beyond now is the time to learn what you are being taught. Because when you get to the highschool level and beyond they expect you to know what you are doing if you want to make the team. Yes there will be some teaching moments but they expect you to know it because they are looking for players who wants it more
New to baseball but i played football till high school, basketball for fun , im a hell of a athlete. My son started playing baseball at 9 years old, me never playing and my son actually saying he wants to be good . I started researching everything about the sport, every time a coach says something I’m listening like I’m on the team lol. Long story short you are right. My son and i practice 3-4 times a week and that’s not including the 2 hours we show up before games. He is 11 and you can’t tell this is season number 2. He pitches really good, can actually hit damn good, but it’s only because we practice and work almost everyday. I think the problem mainly is some coaches are pushing these kids under 13 to hard without teaching proper mechanics, or i call it being athletic. I taught my son how to use his body before anything, foot work , hand eye coordination, taught him better running mechanics. And the most important part, how to take care of his body. Stretching, rest. Not pushing past pain if it’s to bad. Long story short, as they get older they get stronger but they can’t get stronger if they hurt themselves at 10 trying to be he man lol
@@slapgaming1641 Yea that is great to hear about your son and I started playing at age 5 but your right I think parents push their kids too hard in the sport that they are wanting to play and they end getting burned out. Now the only way that he will get better though is him playing actual games because at age 12 is when I told my parents that I wanted to play pro someday. So that's when at age 13 is when I started playing for coaches that played pro or college and I wanted to get better. But with his age I would just take it one step at a time with him and let him be a kid as well and if he's like me that he feels that he wants to turn it up a notch in baseball then you might want to consider possibly put him on a team that will challenge him you know
Parents do research on what these coaches teach. Type B position is wrong. You do not want your elbow higher than your shoulder. That is called the inverted W throwing motion. Look up Mark Prior, Steven Strausberg. Sinking into your back leg is wrong, kills momentum. 3.9 seconds? Tell them at the pro level you need to throw over 90 mph across the diamond for short stops.
Consider purchasing a product called a lava lier microphone.. still good video advice. deal with audio issues its cheap to do and you will help more people if you do. Also strongly consider letting the kids see your eyes. This is coaching 101. With respect. Keep making vids and get better and more sharp. Good voice coach.
This is exactly the opposite of what I was taught. Especially pitching. I get you need a quick release point but the constant whip action keeping your arm like that is what tears your shoulder up. When your arm pull back the ball should be facing away from you. Not the little short L whip thing he’s doing. Idk. It helped my arm a ton.
@@nepzski explain how it’s wrong! You use your arms and hands the same way, except you turn your throwing hand back with the ball facing backwards and your glove hand fingers facing downward. Initially you are in the same position as using a bow and arrow.
Most of those kids don’t know half of what he’s telling them. They just do what they are told without a clue. Now if they were high schoolers or college players those words would sink in.
Disc golf is obviously different but throwing hard is not hard on the body if you have good posture and core strength. I could play for 6 hours in 100 degrees in san antonio, which disc golf is like hiking between every throw and each throw is at a different angle. The notion that throwing too much is bad is dumb to me. I wasn't a pitcher, so circumstances for them may be totally different. But any other position, throwing a lot is very good and you will get so used to it bc it becomes like walking.
The form for a backhand disc golf throw is like hitting in baseball. Not many elbow or shoulder injuries happen there. But forehand disc golf throws? So many injuries. Off the top of my head, pros who are currently injured or have recently missed time injured include: Austin Hannum (elbow), Paul McBeth (currently trying to put off surgery until the off-season), Ricky Wysocki, Eagle McMahon (had surgery during the off season), Calvin Heimburg (is currently throwing no forehands due to elbow injury), and Simon Lizotte (missed extended time a few seasons ago due to elbow injury and has dialed back his game since).
In the olden days we were only told 3 things. Hit it, catch it and throw it :) That's why I could never throw a ball well. I played softball from age 45 to 65 and could never throw a ball. Always the worst on the team. This is some great coaching.
Because of the nutrition and modern training techniques Pitchers these days are throwing at the limit of human physiological ability. Yes, most can throw hard through high school and college and then a few years in the pros without substantial injury. It’s the accumulated damage that ends up needing repair. That’s why so many are damaging tendons and requiring Tommy John surgery a few years into their professional careers. No type of training will prevent it. Some are lucky and their body holds up. Many aren’t. Thankfully, there’s a technique to repair and get these elite athletes back on the mound with little loss of velocity.
throwing is hard on the body, if you throw enough you WILL have arm pain. There's no way around it. All these pitchers getting tommy john's aren't doing it wrong. it's just hard on the body
The hell they aren’t. They are gifted but the pitching mechanics are causing these issues. Thats a fact. My son works with a kinesiologist that use to train Olympic weight lifters. His trainer has several 5/4/3 star high school players in the Bay Area as well as D1 and MLB pitchers. Track record of injury is zero in 20 years! No Tommy John and they pitch high level ball. One of the pitchers recently threw a no hitter for a major D 1 program. My son is a sophomore in high school and has been with the instructor for only 1 year. He had arm pain and thats why we chose this particular trainer. Since he started he has had zero incidents or complaints about pain. He plays third, outfield, and pitcher. None. I had arm pain from throwing the ball. I’m old and beat up and I use the same approach without any pain. If you do it right you can play without pain. That’s a fact.
@@TheRoadLessChoseni really doubt what you have written here. Good technique and programming can reduce the risk of injury but never eliminate it. Tommy John surgery or other injuries are almost unavoidable for many mlb pitchers and it’s not because their technique is bad. The forces in the arm and shoulder are tremendous when throwing at mlb velocities. Then do it repeatedly for 100 pitches per game every week and gradually injuries can creep in. Olympic weightlifting is not a fair comparison. Their sport is very different, but still when you push your body to its limits to break records or set PRs the risk of injury is always greater. I hate when people talk about this Kelly Starette kind of philosophy that bad movement patterns create all injuries. It’s just pure BS
Way too much detail for this age group. At this age it should be about lengthening the arm while throwing. Develop arm strength and eventually if these kids keep playing they will find the right position. You can’t short arm from the OF or pitching.
Couldn’t stand coaches like this growing up, if you can’t throw or cannot learn to on your own don’t play. There’s a few ways to field and throw and all of em over time lead to injury, it’s purely genetics. Guys get hurt more now than ever it seems and no one pitches a complete game.
100 years ago men had plenty of physical labor to perform just to make it through daily life, so their core muscles and fine motor skill muscles were highly developed. Today men are essentially couch potatoes. Their bodies just aren’t used to the physical demands placed on them.
Good information, but there are too many kids. This is about money and not about effective teaching. Less kids allows for more 1 on 1 training. Kid in the light blue was completely ignored but was consistently setting up incorrectly every time. Waste of his parents money.
I completely understand what you're saying. Sometimes There's less learning by doing in more learning by hearing attempted... however especially with this situation...How do you correct up to 15 different bad habits , with efficient corrections and collectively unite the knowledge of the right way? A coach needs to do his due diligence to plan a well-balanced practice of doing listening hearing and correcting
