@@byron8422They are no better than any other batteries. They look pretty cool with the green lights but they don't last any longer then my 2 year old DeWalt batteries.
@@rickyhall1772but then...why couldn't you use the same pulled to hoist the 30-40lbs worth of exhaust fan?😅 I think this it obviously intended for much more heavy loads but they chose a funny load
Please Google for ladder hoists offered by GEDA USA and their competitors. Rent per job or buy brand new or used or, heck, transform a sturdy ladder to that concept. Your clients and your family will appreciate you not becoming a meme.
Just to make sure I got this, I carry the heavy ass ladder crane up the ladder, then I make my ladder completely useless as a ladder in order to turn it into a very dangerous "crane" And in order to use said crane I still have to support the weight of the load+the ladder+the ladder crane while I burn out 3 drill batteries on the world's slowest hoist, all while standing right on the edge of the roof. Man, this is so damn brilliant!!
Oh ya know. Over extending one arm off a roof while you balance a ladder in one hand and run a drill for 10 mins each way to lower and raise what you are lifting. Totally safe. Totally better then anything on the market. What a fail
@@Frindleeguy I got 25 years stick framing houses and still going. That fuxkin thing is not only a piece of shit, but I guarantee OSHA is frowning upon a single man holding a ladder and a drill with un-tendered load. Not for nothing, dumbass….. you ain’t gotta be in the trades to have common sense which paradoxically seems to be your case.
And people died and the family’s (rightfully) sued the bosses and government for allowing it to happen so they regulated it. I mean I carried a 7k watt split cycle unit up on my roof by myself using a ladder and rope, sure it can be done. But it was dangerous, I risked breaking my unit.
Its obviously a huge safety risk when you can't even check the price of the hoist without agreeing to an exclusion of liability clause on their website. And for $1700, I'll just throw the hood on my shoulder and walk it up the ladder.
@@funkmanonemy first roof my only job was carry the metal panels to the wall and clamp both ends for the other guys to lift it up 2 stories. Every other job I've been on in the last 8 years I've been able to stand the panels up against the eave and just pull them up but the rope was by far the sketchiest way
and carrying this or other heavy materials up a ladder on your back or using a rope is any less of a safety risk? not really. I’ve had to use a rope to hoist stuff up roof ladder hatches, manually pulling, even what I was pulling was light, but bulky. You gonna see me go up a straight vertical ladder with a box of 26x26x4 filters? Uh, no. and I’m not carrying 1 up at a time either when I need 2 boxes. But we didn’t have a hoist on the roof. Still much safer than say a residential roof that doesn’t have a curb for you to lean against/over and pull stuff up with at least less risk of falling off.
@@Sffkersomething silly like that, and 1700 bucks? I call that failure to properly price the job. 😂 It's not that killing much to rent a boom lift or something similar. Shit, even if you have to hire the local crane service, probably with a two hour minimum, wouldn't cost half that much, and anyways all that should be in the estimate. Looks like he needs to upgrade his customer base. And the only thing worse than dragging up that box of 26×26×4 filters is dragging up your toolbag, a vacuum pump, and a set of torches, then have to lug that shit a mile and a half across a roof and back. I found zip ties and a dolly are pretty effective. You can stack so your stuff on it, secure everything with the ties, and let the tires ride the wall on the way up for stability.
You’re on the right track here. Having the gear box at the top is the best option in your design. With utmost respect, I propose you to add two 4-5 foot,long aluminum arms connected to your lift assemble in a way so they can pivot/swing out and set on the roof. I’d go with something about 2 inch square extruded aluminum tubing with swiveling feet pads like the ladder has. This will provide some additional safety and if needed, you can screw down the feet to prevent minor load oscillation. Another option instead of two stabilizing legs is to use just one but make it ‘L’ shaped so the roof feet pads are on the bottom of the ‘L’ shape. The goal is to create something that can provide something that will keep the operator away from the roof edge which would make a lot of business owners nervous for liability reasons. Even making a bracket that can hold a cordless drill on your device so the operator can use either a wired hand control or a simple metal lever mounted on the stabilizing arm(s) would work. Electric motors are pretty cheap as are gear assemblies that drills use so it might be possible to just build a complete powered unit that uses common drill batteries. If you made the stabilizing braces beefier to hold more weight, you could lift materials for roof repairs or anything in between.
The company that was roofing our condo complex which has a steep roof were working without a safety harness. First call was WSIB (Canada) and the second our condo company. I sat out and watched until one of them got a phone call. He didn't look happy. They packed and headed home.
If you make it faster you risk tools not being able to lift heavier objects, also material falling is alot cheaper than a workman's comp claim cause you fell of ladder trying to get that upper there
I built one like this from a Harbor Freight winch and strut steel welded up. Pulled two multi-head split AC units up. No issues. Had to do something since I'm a whole-ass maintenance crew by myself, and too weak to carry 'em up the ladder. lol. Sometimes you just gotta say, "Fck osha!" and get the job done. This works.
This is most certainly going to hurt someone. I work with real cranes daily. I'm a certified rigger/signal person. This is going to hurt someone bad!!!
While its certainly true that theres nothing in the universe that an idiot cant screw up, I find myself doubting that this is a particularly dangerous piece of gear. This probably had a worm gear in it that cant be driven by the load. Btw, being someone that repairs industrial electronics and gets a lot of the VFDs that run crane motors, I hate to inform you that your life often heavily depends on some pretty chinchy little relays that close at detection of 0 speed to engage brakes to prevent the load from freewheeling, and these are controlled by electronics that I frequently replace because they failed.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that way back when I was an Ironworker, I watched a novice crane operator frewheel a 4 ton spreader bar down onto my bud, smashing him into the tiny ditch that he was crouched over to weld the toe of a wall to its footing, and crushing his spine.
Nah boss, Idc if you spent 700$ on a crane. Im gonna do it the hard way, which takes longer. I'd like to be a fly on the wall in that McDonalds kitchen you work in. Bet its a riot.
@@RichPrivilegedWhiteMaleyou’ve clearly never done anything with your hands except change your tampon I’m not wasting 2 hours when I can get it done in 10 min with a rope fuck outta here
Your next video should be about fall protection. Ya know? Harnesses and retractable lanyards. Hand rails on any raised platforms above 6'...including roof tops.
Hope there's a hand crank so once your drill's battery dies from running it for an hour just to lift a ten pound vent, you can lower your drill back down and have somebody on the ground charge it for you.
I worked one hour for a man who was a roofer , my father hired this rather older man to put a roof on their home . He went with his cheaper price , why that cheaper price was soon realized as he was a one man crew . The hardest working man I ever met . I found myself as a hired hand once it began and at 16 years old I had put maybe 10 loads of shingles up on the roof . I had to quit and rethink the venture , this was not only more than hard labor it was dangerous hard labor , I showed my respect and made sure that man had all he needed from the ground . He gave my a handshake for trying it out , just continue the day . Respect
@dustinkeeney211I read it in about 20 seconds. Some people have the attention span of a gnat, and other people might enjoy an interesting anecdote. To each their own.
Now picture doing that at 16 but its a 50 square roof so thats 150 bundles of shingles and your 1 of the 2 "younger/ground" guys and over 3 days youve carried 75 bundles up a 2 story roof on a flimsy ass extension ladder that wobbles even worse the more tired your legs get 😂 i had that ladder bowing in and out 2 feet by the 3rd day and never wanted to walk again. Im now 32 and thankful for whoever created metal roofs.
I put Tin on my house and my grandpas house in the middle of june last year. I was sunburned so bad just moving my arms felt like my skin was tearing. Roofers are a special bunch
i used to change put like five of those a year for leslie pools. standard exhaust fan from grainger i think. u can carry them up a ladder with one hand no problem, they cant wheigh more than 30lbs. johnstone was selling those hoists for a while and they wheigh like 45 to 75lbs. the one that mounts to the bilco style ladder doors seemed safer. we thought about getting them for big ass blower motors heat exchanegrs or smaller condensing units but just ended up being cheaper to have two guys on a job or rent a crane
@@randal3122 Lack of railing, the weight that is not necessarily properly balanced - if the ladder pulls to the side and you don't let go immediately you get a quick drop. This is definitely a two man job too.
I've been in construction for over 50 years, and I can seriously tell you that's crazy. If you lose your footing, down you'll go, and take your buddy out with you.😮
@@Mechanicallyincleyend You laugh…. But an inexperienced man on a roof is gonna lean that too far and not let go. Get pulled right off the roof. Make sure you got your dummy proof stickers all over it!
This is easier and cheaper than trying to find good help. Even if it does take forever to go up and down. (He'll figure out better gearing I'm sure). Great idea. 👍
