Absolutely awsome !!! I moved my Assioma Duo power metering pedals to my wife’s spin bike, adjusted geometry and yes !! it works great with Zwift, way better than any smart trainer, no noise, easy to sprint, no damage to the frame or wear to my road bike,,,,, all positive effects... And easy to change the Assioma pedals back and forth between the 2 bikes. Kudos for this solution !!!!!
Cool! I created this exact setup in January 2018 after trying to find a way of using Zwift without a trainer for my road bike or buying an expensive smart trainer. I found a spin bike with a broken crank arm on eBay for £20 ($30), easy fix for $10. Bought the Assioma Uno, cheap Ant + dongle and a cheap heart rate monitor and got it all ruining on my iMac in my living room. I use the Zwift companion app on my iPhone mounted on my handlebars so as to control Zwift on my iMac, works a dream. The biggest issue I had was getting the pedals calibrated with Zwift but I hooked them up to the Wahoo app and did a calibration ride. Glad to see someone else who had the same idea and got it working too :-) Like you I live in a tiny apartment but in London and I also have a very understanding wife!
The understanding wife is the most important part to be successful LOL. Sounds like you got your setup going for pretty cheap! The great thing about spin bikes is that they don't really wear down, so used is a great option if you can find one cheap nearby. Ride on!
@@TwoWheelCruise Great video thanks pal. One thing though, you mention that it is cheap option but at €780 for pedals! ....thats hard to justify. I get the advantage of a spin bike, always there, quiet, cheap but that cost is a killer IMO.
Cool, even two years after! :) I am spinning instructor and the fixed flying wheel can also be an advantage depending on the technique. But you need to ride it as a track fixed bicycle. Even though your legs will always be moving you can use the momentum of that heavy rotational mass for relaxing the muscles for a couple of seconds as long as you don't let it slow down too much. I would not say that spinning bikes don't generate heat. The flying wheel after a spinning class gets so hot that you can barely touch it. :)
Thanks for this video! I had Zwift for a while and we changed over to the Peloton and i miss Zwift a lot. Good to know there's a way to get back out there.
Regarding the resistance pads. They look like felt pads on OG Spinners. Using silicone only spray will lubricate and increase mechanical longevity and still get the higher resistance, without that drive train lock-up at super high resistance. Don't use any petroleum oils on the pads as it will cook and glaze the pads, ruining them. So again, silicone spray without any petroleum. Very much appreciate this video.
Thank you. Your video was awesome! Now I know the path to getting information from my Sunny spin bike to indoor cycling apps. Very generous of your time and knowledge.
Regarding getting the flywheel back up to speed at high resistance: It's only really an issue on friction resistance spin bikes. A magnetic resistance spin bike feels closer to that of a road bike.
One more power meter option - not nearly as accurate, but portable and can be taken to your local fitness center is a HRM based power meter like the PowerTap PowerCal. It's what I use at our local fitness center since I can't remove their pedals or cranks.
I got a spinbike too. Schwin - has a nice bicycle feel to it. I put my garmin cadence and speed sensors on it, and it works well. Is the on-screen speed accurate, I would say yes. But pedalling harder, for example when going up a hill, won't do anything for your online speed, you have to pedal faster. The spinbike I got doesn't use the felt-brake type resistance, but earth magnets -- totally silent - no noise from the friction, as there is none, not to mention no wear, and feels like the resistance on the road (highly recommend the magnet spin bikes). You just have to be honest to yourself and turn up the resistance for the up hills, and down. One thing I found with the spinbike, is when I got back onto the road after indoor winter training, I was able to really spin it out and maintain a much higher speed using a lower gear. The main drawback I'd say would be that you're always in the same gear and thus pretty much stay in the same position for the whole ride. I also changed the seat because the one that came with it just hurt my ass something fierce (wider and softer = pain). I got my spinbike at a local auction -- gyms are constantly either going out of business or overturning their equipment, so you can get a gym quality bike for a couple hundred bucks or less, if you're lucky at the auction ($1200 new).
using zwift on a spinning bike as well. Mine has a builtin power meter and cadence sensor. My spinning bike send out the sensor signals using ant+. With an ant+ usb dongle this can be connected to Zwift running on windows. What I am. using now is the North Pole Engineering Cable device that converts ant+ to Bluetooth. Than I use zwift on android. Really happy with this setup.
@@minombreeslos I have a life fitness Ic5. It works with android through my North Pole Engineering CABLE device. It also works with Windows 10 and an Ant+ Bluetooth dongle. The bike does gives 0RPM and 0watts when RPM is below 50, but that is not a real problem for me. An alternative would be to get a cheaper spinning bike and buy for instance the garmin vector 3s power pedals. Another alternative is to spend more money on an Ic6 since it supposedly supports Bluetooth natively and has higher power precision, but for the price difference you can probably get power pedals. Whatever bike you get, make sure it has magnetic resistance and a V belt for low maintenance.
11:39 The Assioma Favero power pedals INCLUDE A CADENCE READER TOO???? Thank you so much for mentioning that, that solves an issue I thought I was going to have this summer. In 2018 I bought a Canyon road bike in September and a Wahoo ELEMNT bundle in October - two big expenses - so I decided to enjoy a period of just HR training for a period before spoiling myself with the next (and final) upgrade, power. You totally sold me with your review of the Assioma Favero pedals a few months ago, so I decided I will purchase them around March/April. The main reason I'm sold on pedal based power over crank-based is, as you've mentioned often, you simply swap the pedals onto different bikes and have power on whatever bike you want. When I go to Japan this summer I'm going to bring my set up - soon to be purchased power pedals, Wahoo ELEMNT and all the Wahoo stuff that comes with it (Tickr HRM, Wahoo Speed Sensor). But not the Wahoo Cadence, because it's stuck (glued) onto the crank arm on my Canyon (my US bike) and I didn't want to mess with taking it off to stick on my Allez (my Japan bike). I was going to buy a separate Wahoo Cadence for the Allez, which admittedly is only $40. But now that I know the Favero pedals do cadence, that's one less expense to achieve my perfect setup for this summer. Thanks Cruise, I'm so glad I watched your video to the end! 😂😂😂
Trying to be patient and not spoiling yourself to much is a pretty hard thing to do Haha. But yeah, it's great having both power and cadence together 😁
Ha so funny I have my Japan bike too (Caad 9) and my US bike (Super Six Evo). I didn't realize my Assioma pedals had cadence built in either! One less thing to bring back and forth. This spin bike set up is the best ever, no need for a laptop either if you run Zwift mobile and just cast your phone to a tv.
i have a different spin bike using a cadence sensor and speed sensor and I use zwift. All you need to do is change the settings on Zwift for the wheel size. slightly cheeper way to do the same thing
Definitely a more affordable way to do it, but really inaccurate and takes away from the racing/training options which is one of the main reasons I like ZWIFT
Thank you for the video. Maybe an update with you actually pulling up a ride on Zwift would be just as helpful. I was wondering if a speed sensor along with a power meter would be more realistic but apparently not really needed. I have several road bikes and have been thinking about Zwift for the winter months. I recently learned how to hook up my old Blackburn Trackstand using a speed sensor. Zwift already had the power conversions for it but then I thought it would be so much more convenient and much less wear and tear if I could use the older spin bike instead. Your video is a godsend. I just had those other questions about a speed sensor because that what I had to get for the road bike. I will be looking into purchasing those power pedals as they were also recommended at another Chanel as well. Peace ✌🏽
I'm glad to saw this video bro !!! I have my spin bike and want to use zwift, one advice about the sound during the time if you got too loud maybe because the cushion are not very new, you can use oil that you usually use to cook something and add a little in the sides flat wheel using a napkin
I really like the video. I wonder if it is better to get the duo over uno for the power meter, and if it is necessary. I am new to the power training but love the idea to use them on both my road bike and spin bike at home.
Thanks for your video, really shows you don’t need to get caught up with all the fancy electronic gadgetry . I would like to know What sort of feedback you get while using an app, what’s missing if anything?
Thanks for the video. currently new to Zwift and so far I llove it, I am using an IC4. Did you have to increase the resistance a lot the to 200 watts ?
I’m going to go against the grain here and give a few critiques on this video. He mentions sound and price as two of the main reasons to use a spin bike. Sound I definitely understand, but some of the newer models are getting pretty quiet. Price: this rubbed me the wrong way. Let’s start with the 5 bikes I can see in the background. I love my bikes and have quite the stable myself, but if I was really focused on off season training and budget constrained, I think I could part with one bike to buy a smart trainer (or two). How about the set of $650 pedals (more in Japan?) and a $350 desk (no alternatives?!). Those two items alone would by a new high end smart trainer.
Just bought the US version you suggested and the power meter you suggested. What did you set for your crank arm length. It’s not on the crank arm like a normal bike? Ps works great just wanted to make sure it was set up right!
Great video, but I'm still a bit confused as to how this all works with Zwift. For example say in Zwift you come to a hill. If you don't adjust the resistance does the hill get climbed but it's very easy? Do you have to increase the resistance but just "guess" as to how much? Thx!
you end up just putting out the same power, so you will climb the hill very slow. If you're in a group ride, you will likely lose pace, so you'll want to increase resistance or power to adjust.
@@garypaduana62 it takes more power to go up a hill, whether by car, foot, bicycle or any means. In Zwift with power meter pedals you will end up with a slower speed if you don't add more resistance to the spin bike (using more power).
@@kokoyhawaii Yep, that makes sense, and that's what I'm saying as well. If you're putting out 300W on flat, why would you all of a sudden put out 350W going up a hill? Isn't the natural tendency to slow down when going up a hill in real life while continuing to put out the same power and changing gears? So in zwift everyone slows down when taking the hill so it's not actually a problem?
Awesome vid! So glad I got the assioma pedals last year based on your rec. Threw them on my Spin brand spin bike last night, and used Google Chromecast to cast Zwift to my tv. I've been able to use equipment I already had and spent zero extra dollars to get set up on Swift! Thanks again!!
I dunno how exactly the resistance 'switch' or knob works but maybe you can modify the switch using cheap index or friction shifters. It looks like a brake caliper to me.
Between the spin bike, the $500 pedals, and the $250 Wahoo Desk (wth?!), you're at least in the ball park for what a Kickr Core cost. lol. Which has all the features that make it fully compatible and ready to run on Zwift. Unless you're building an indoor zwift trainer set-up with these parts you already had, getting a dedicated smart trainer already seems to fit the budget. lol
I'll be using the e-motion rollers with ant+ resistance trainer (up to 10% ) and the floating front fork (if I hate rollera) a speed and cadence sensor on my fixed gear bike. I hope it's going to all work together once I get everything.
I was looking into indoor cycling and came across your video😊 Some good stuff Liked the video and good tips👍👌 actually i was planning to buy the turbo trainer but as you can tell the coved 19 situation and the prices are going crazy but thankfully Friend of mine gave me spin bike and it was a big help tbh it saved my money and i can exercise dally👍🏡 And yes i agree 7:34 my first experience was close to losing my foot lol Even my wife heart her self And hatred it But its been couple days and naw im use to it Thanks for reading my long A$$ comment😉 Can't for your next video
@@TwoWheelCruise So if myself for example, I am a pretty decent racing bike cyclist but don't really want to set my racer up in the room due to wearing out components? So my question is can I use an exercise bike instead to win categorized races online & basically make a few hundred dollars every once in a while?
How does Zwift calculate the speed from the power meter pedals which do not have a speed sensor? Thank you for this video. I have a spin bike that I want set up similar to your set up with the power meter pedals.
speed is easily calculated by power, weight, virtual bike weight, wind, and virtual course gradient. Speed sensors indoors are not even remotely accurate.
I have a Bowflex C6 coming and was really looking forward to using Zwift. Is it pointless using Zwift without power pedals on a spin bike like the C6? I don't want to waste my time on Zwift if it isn't worth it at all. Any information would be great guys
It depends on your goals and what you wanna use it for. If you just wanna ride zwift, then no it's not useless. If you want accurate data and to race on zwift, then it's best to go with some kind of power meter option.
@@TwoWheelCruise thanks for the quick reply! I am looking to work on fitness, not necessarily races although I would like to some day. If I enjoy it then I will probably invest in some power meters. Thanks 👍
Cool, thank you for the video. I want to use Zwift on my current spin bike , I am not a hardcore bikecycle Rider and cant justify hundreds of dollars on a traditional Zwift set up. Thanks
If you don't already have the power pedals, wouldn't it be a net zero sum to either go this route or a smart trainer? With the exception of having a dedicated bike.
The Uno pedals are only $420, plus a $200~$300 spin bike, and it's still cheaper than the silent smart trainers which start at about $900. Plus you can use the pedals on your normal bike and no wear on the normal bike, so I think it's still a great option even if you don't already have the smart pedals.
Since it wasn’t mentioned, I’ll throw in the fact that spin bikes are easily adjustable for other family members. My wife and daughter use the bike (Schwinn IC4) with the Peloton Digital app and the experience is excellent. No additional equipment required, besides tablet/phone.
How do I get the change in resistance to correlate to change in power output? I have a Urevo spin bike (awesome bike) but when I increase resistance this isnt transferred into an increase in power output
Could you please let me know if this is better compared to hr2vp app. Because in hr2vp power sometimes greatly decreases even if I am applying same force
Great video thanks - when I cycle on ZWIFT really hard the animation is still very slow - my cheapish spin bike has built in blue tooth connectivity however I have the feeling that regardless of the resistance (power) this isn't being reflected in the app - think its just transmitting cadence? So to confirm my understanding I need a power meter to reflect the different watts in ZWIFT? otherwise I could just spin with no resistance or do I need cadence and heart rate too? Confused on what is needed to reflect my speed in the app correctly.
I would not trust the data pt from a cheap spin bike, it will not be accurate. The best way to connect to zwift is with a dedicated power meter, so either pedals or crank arm attachment for a spin bike.
did you have any issues having power connect to zwift? i have a cycleops 300 spin bike and i'm using the favero uno pedals. my power and cadence are connected but only my cadence shows and the avatar does not move.
Recent got a wahoo cadence and speed sensor. I noticed my watts do not go any higher than 400. I’ve done some research and it says it caps it at 400, is there anyway fix this?
Quick question: In the previous video you had the Assioma DUO in the link description, here you have the UNO. Which do you recommend? Is the Duo worth the price?
My Tacx trainer broke down two weeks ago, reading the stories from customers about smart trainers is putting me off to buy another smart trainer, IMHO added to all those experiences I read, smart trainers eventually break for one reason or another, and they are not cheap. I am now considering a robust spinning bike to add my sensors. Have you considered adapting a road shift lever to control the resistance? Do you think it will work?
Spin bikes are way more durable and cheaper. I'm fine with using the default resistance wheel, but I guess you could upgrade to a more real-like setup.
I wish i could buy the things mentioned in this video. But I feel like it is kind of expensive. Since I have a kid, I cannot easily spend on things for myself anymore.
Hi, just installed the Assioma Uno’s on spin bike. They work great, although,after a few rides I feel my watts are under stated in Zwift. Any recommendations on how to correct? Thanks.
The Assioma Uno power meter pedals are pretty dang accurate. I have them set up on my peloton for use on zwift as well and I doubt they are not reading accurately. Maybe try performing the zero offset before your next ride to make sure they are fully calibrated. Other than that, just Ride on and build that strengrh.
I have a spin bike with manual resistance too... how does this send information to the console and zwift? I can't get above 100-110 Watts no matter what the resistance is which is ridiculously low, but i don't know if it's just because I'm new to cycling or it just can't get accurate power data? Just getting lapped by everybody on zwift
@@jbngowda assioma pedals! Two Wheel has some reviews on them, I've been riding them due to his recs. Honestly, having access to my power data has made me a better cyclist, it's a bonus that the pedals can be used with Zwift !
hey two wheel cruise, i have a question, i am very keen to do this but before i was about to buy some fever assioma pedals the bike shop has told me that it may not work depending on calibrating the pedals as i do not have a bike computer (such as a garmin edge etc) he said i will need to calibrate for a spin bike as you would not be able to show speed, only cadence and power. so im running a mac laptop and a standard samsung smart phone, is there anything else needed?. I see people say the wahoo phone app allows for calibrating? any help would be great
You can calibrate within the favero phone app. For zwift, the pedals will give you cadence and power, which is all you need. The speed sensor is meaningless since power is more accurate for zwift anyway. You will also need the ANT+ dongle I believe
@@TwoWheelCruise Sorry, just bought a spin bike to keep fit then I see swift on an ad and wished I had waited.then I saw your video about using power pedals which seemed the easiest solution. Being a novice I don't have a out door bike apart from old mountain bike but Just want to use swift.there must be thousands of people like me out there and your video is the only one I've found that helps .a video on setting up swift from scratch with power pedals fitting on spin bike would be brilliant.. Cheers Like I said thousands of people with spin bikes are seeing swift on ads and want to get in on it but can't. Do I need two power pedals or does one work ??
I've been getting a lot of those ads too, and agreed, there's probably a lot of people who don't know what to do. For this setup, it works with the single power pedal option
Was looking at Pelotons but already owned a Spin bike and found this would be a great solution for me. How exactly does the Assioma's connect to a computer? Is it just via Bluetooth or can you link it through your phone app?
So I stumbled across this video because I’m trying to research anything that would allow my stationary bike which is not a spin bike like this that you see in all the videos to be able to run in Zwift or apps like Zwift. I was recently gifted a freemotion 370r and it’s your pretty run of the mill smart bike (I guess you could call it) for today. Every method I have found states for some reason it can not be used with that bike or other exercise bikes similar to it, yet I see no reason why if this method works on a very simple bike why it wouldn’t work for literally any bike? Just wondering if anyone has any information into this
One question: the 'smart' trainers will automatically apply more resistance when the gradient increases (right?), how do you manage this with the trainer and the manual brake? are you prompted to do so?
Yes, this is one of the weaknesses I address in the video, but it's not a problem since you can just manually adjust the resistance when you start a climb. There is no prompt for regular riding, but it's pretty obvious when you start climbing. I was able to adapt to it pretty quickly and now the shifting as climbs come up is pretty natural to me
Hey Thanks for the video. I use my spin Bike "Keiser M3" with those pedals, I love it. How can I know the crank lenght of this bike? I can't find it on internet. KR
Hello do u mind if I ask a question?...Do u feel like the M3 has more of a up down motion as opposed to circular and if so do u feel like it wld eventually cause knee issues? Thank u.
