Hey all, worked hard on this video! If you have any additional questions about using engines, post them here and I'll try to cover them in a future video
This question may be tough to answer in a video, but would there be value in only going to a very small depth when you're lower rated? If you're say 1200, at some point the engine ideas will be too complicated. At the same time, if you have the potential to go as deep as possible it may be unnecessary not to.
@@Ninterd2 Great question, will be sure to include it! My short answer is that a low depth is OK, but you should try to make sense of what the engine is saying, does it see a tactic where you win material? Or is the evaluation due to positional factors? Hopefully that helps!
If you want another one, I'd be interested in hearing when you recommend that one stops using the free-to-use engines and invests in a program like Chessbase with stronger engines.
@@Ninterd2 Chessbase doesn't have stronger engines, but rather is just a helpful GUI/database compared to other programs. Running Stockfish 12 on your computer is running stockfish 12 no matter what, there isn't stronger engines for some GUIs or others on your computer (as long as you are running them locally, NOT on the web browser).
Great stuff! Just what an adult improver (rating around 1200) needed! I’m always hearing the advice to “analyze your own games”, but very little guidance about what that actually looks like.
Thank you for this most excellent video. I noticed when analyzing my games with Fritz, it would find incredible moves but also it's evaluation seemed a bit sketchy, because after playing a move it found weak, suddenly it was the strongest winning move. So again thank you!
This was extremely helpful, very well done. This validated some intuitions I already had, but now I more fully understand their validity. Thanks for providing this specific instruction.
Thank you for taking the time to do all your videos. I find them very informative and easy to understand and follow and your advice is always sound. Thanks! All the best
and you are absolutely right that is exactly what we novices do, we ask the engine for 5 seconds and we take the result that it shows us as absolute truth
@@prajwalkhune2902 who cares? You should only get better at things in your career ? Are you saying there is no reason to ever get better at a hobby? Wtf is your comment even supposed to mean
@@shroomsopenminds3623 it means that ur wasting ur time, that's it, I mean playing anything as a hobby is understandable, but putting a lot of time and effort means there is no worthwhile output out of it that's why.
@@shroomsopenminds3623 it does, but only to a certain, not that ur life starts revolving around the game, just watching a few chess videos on yt, playing with friends and family, is understandable, but reading chess books or using chess engines means ur going too far , that's what I feel
Great video! Seems like a what, why, and how approach is useful. What is the move, why is translating the engine or our own analysis into human terms, and how is the plan or strategy to get to why. Here, the sacrifice was the what, gaining access to the king was the why, and the how was the rook lift and queen combining for the attack.
Very good advice. This got me to thinking I should probably look into updating the Stockfish I'm using with SCID, as I am unsure how old a version it is. I downloaded and installed the new SF 12 and set it to work on the Yoo position. I could not get SF 12 to give up on the idea of grabbing the b5 pawn, despite letting it run while I took an afternoon nap! Of course once I asked it to evaluate Bxh7+ it found all the key moves by a depth of 31. I then downloaded SF 11 and tried that. It found Bxh7+, Rhd1, and R1d3 by a depth of 36. Asked to evaluate the position after Bxh7+, it found the key moves by a depth of 32, almost as good as SF12. I'm not nearly enough of an engine wonk to keep playing with it long enough to figure out what's going on. I'll probably just stick with SF 11 for now. :-)
Thank you very much for your really instructive videos and now recommend other people to enrich our taste for fantastic chess greetings we continue to learn little by little but continuous growth
Translation: "Since Jesse won't make his obligatory 'how to analyze your own games/take notes' video, I'll make this one so that you can go straight to the engine" ;) haha jk nice video, Kostya
Hey Kostya - When playing practice games with the engine, what rating should i be setting on the engine?I should i play it at its max so i get or learn the right/best moves or set it like 200-300 higher than my rating ?... thanks again for the video.. very helpful
Blackmar Deimer Gambit too after 5. Bg4 the position is even even though its considered the main line after you let it run a long time very interesting thanks for the video
It doesn't really show on how to use a chess engine. Just a bunch of talking but no tutorial. I downloaded the stockfish app and can't even open it. Any suggestions on better tutorials on how to really use the chess engines? Thanks in advance
Hi! Most people just use the chess engine built in on chess.com or lichess, so the video focuses on that. The folks that want to use engines offline will need a separate program to actually run the engine, like Chessbase or SCID or Hiarcs, or Tarrasch, etc. There are many programs and they each have their own tutorial. This video was meant for the 99% of chess players who use Stockfish when analyzing on chess.com or lichess. Hopefully that helps!
Great video. What CPU do you and other top players use in there system ? .... would greatly appreciate an answer as I am currently building a computer for my Chess , thanks for your great videos, regards Roxy ( 2179 lichess )
You should add SCID vs PC to the tools. I found it to be easier to use than Arena. Maybe you could do a video on it as a follow up to your how much to spend on chess video?
@@ChessDojo Been looking at some your videos videos it's crazy been playing since 8 years old been to national tournaments OTB style feel like the difference between online and live in terms of generally speaking from learning aspect ( i.e learning though over with opponent matches /books vs online material and tactical trainer maybe you could give some insight on a a upload
@@ChessDojo No, they didn't, at least not before Rybka appeared. By the way the analysis is not very good. Sorry. The most critical things are missed bringing the value of such analysis to zero. Just an example: 1. Bxh7+ Kxh7 2. Rd7 Qc8 3. Rhd1 Kg8 4. R1d3 Bc6 5. Rh3 Be3+ 6. Kb1 Bxf4 7. Qh5 Bh6 *and now Black is winning, not White!* Without such lines and how to cope in case they arise, the value of analysis is zero (White should also see this: ....7. Ng6 Bh6 8. Ne7+ Kh8 9. Nxc8 Bxd7 (or 7. Ng6 fxg6 8. Qxe6+ Rf7 9. Qxf7# ) 8. Ne7+ Kh8 9. Nxc8 Bxd7+- and here White has the upper hand (the engine shows even stronger moves by the way). The player should strive to make analysis more or less precise without gaping holes that may lead to his/her instant loss. Of course, the engine will find the narrow path and calculate 30+ plies ahead but when there's a lot of branching out humans just can't calculate that far--well, not within 30-60 minutes at least, not even Magnus Carsen can. YOU BASICALLY SHOWED OF HOW NOT TO USE THE ENGINE OR HOW TO USE IT IMPROPERLY by omitting critical lines! Sorry for this critique. I guess nothing is perfect. Overall you got an excellent channel and give super advice, etc. It's just this video went a bit awry in my opinion.
Years ago I used to find the automated analysis of the PC software like Chessmaster or Fritz to be useful, and I still have alot of this software, but on modern PC hardware, I have discovered that more raw power doesn't give you better results. Indeed, Chessmaster's auto-analysis is almost broken on modern hardware, because it's method of presenting analysis was designed for a time when we were all running with potato chip CPU's. On modern PC's, you get overwhelmed. So, I am looking for new ways to do quick analysis of my chess games.
Is there an older version of Stockifish available to download that is compatible with Mac OS El Capitan 10.11.6. I don’t see any version for download on their website other than newer version which allegedly won’t work with OS El Capitan, but requires OS 10.14 or newer, which my Mac won’t work with.
It pays to have some good understanding of the game before using the engine. A majority of the time for me I overrule the engine when it wants to play kamikaze and opt for developing moves. Of course if it's a completely winning line I might choose it but I place value on developing my pieces and figure getting out of the opening is most important. Also, the computer doesn't place a value on it but something you tend to notice is if you are choosing developing moves instead of what the computer is suggesting then once you are finished developing and reach the middlegame you are ready to attack and the amount of legitimate moves your opponent has to choose from are much smaller. Kind of one of those unseen things that you can't know just from blindly following an engine.
@@ChessDojo Merci j'ai trouvé. O.K. i find it. My english is not perfect and i was looking for it at the end of the video ... but finally i get it ... Discord: discord.gg/sUUh8HD
Dude why does it take you over 2 mins to get to the point, hurry up man, people don't have the time to waste these days and no one cares about your intro, we know what we are looking for in the title
