How To Use Guitar Pedals For Bass (w/ Roy Mitchell-Cárdenas)

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This week's episode breaks down one of the most requested topics in JHS Show history: do guitar pedals work on bass? Roy Mitchell-Cárdenas, bassist for the iconic band Mutemath and one of my favorite bass players of all time, swung by to answer the question.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:34 Do Guitar Pedals Work on Bass?
7:38 "Cyborg Space Pig"
8:26 Sample Fuzz Audio
10:17 “Chevy Impala"
11:30 What If Jimi Hendrix Was In A Shoegaze Band?
12:20 "Purple Gaze"
13:43 Mutemath Meets Talking Heads
14:43 "Talking Math"
16:23 Check Out The Live Episode W/ Roy!
16:56 Giveaway!
17:38 Record Time
19:58 Thanks For Watching!
Gear In this Episode:
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JHS Pulp N' Peel V4
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Record Time:
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Mutemath - Odd Soul
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@Beastintheomlet 3 года назад

All pedals are bass pedals, no one can stop us.

@ileutur6863 3 года назад

Getting buried in the mix will certainly stop you. That said, only drive pedals carry that risk

@MisterFatherSir310 3 года назад

Not if the cut all lowend

@CosmicHippopotamus 3 года назад

Some pedals don’t track bass frequencies but whatever sounds good.

@davethepius 3 года назад

Never use "bass" pedals live and never had loss of lows. A good bass amp covers the lows, and a good mixer makes it work

@MDee-db7by 3 года назад

Check out Fuzzlord. Bass players seem to enjoy their pedals more than guitarists. I'm a little bit of both so there's alot of experimentation going on.

@tmtmtmtmtm 3 года назад

I felt so bad for Roy around 8:08 when he nailed that fill and looked over at the drummer and got nothing, looked at Josh, nothing. I felt it, Roy.

@G60syncro 3 года назад

The fact that it happens at 808 is kind of telling!!

@phillipemery572 3 года назад

Such is the life of a bass player. Only other bass players hear ridiculous fills.

@edwardbrown561 3 года назад

Yep... kicked out of the pocket lol

@chrisdanuegis4752 3 года назад

Could feel that set-up coming, but beautiful recovery 😸👍

@TheAlfaproyect 3 года назад

It's what we are used to as bass players. Locking in with our drummer. I remember once a drummer told me: "I'm not used to someone looking at me. The guitar players don't even notice me"

@shojrenrag 3 года назад

Mutemath = One of my favorite bands Roy = My favorite bass player JHS = My favorite pedals This video = PURE GOLD

@SethDStanley 3 года назад

Same!!

@basstheworldofficial 3 года назад

one more thing that could have been mentioned are loop pedals like the Xotic X-Blender. I'm using a lot of guitar pedals that don't work well for bass. The X-blender allows me to mix the effect with my clean tone to get my low end and some clarity back. Especially nice for RATs and MuTrons

@benjiboy69420 3 года назад

Seconded. A loop/blender pedal is a must-have for bassists, mainly for the reasons you suggested, but also great for blending in compression -- if you are using the Diamond compressor as an example, which doesn't have a blend control... problem solved! Radial Tonebones & their Mix-Blender (mix two inputs + a blendable loop) are great options, the Xotic is cool too!

@josephchamberlain3681 3 года назад

You need to try the Lil Trees "Synesthesia" on bass.

@edwardbrown561 3 года назад

The Bloop is nice, so is Broughton's Fx Loop

@infinitybassuk 3 года назад

Another "blender" for consideration is the Lazy Bear effects (UK) Active signal blender pedal. Compact size for around £80.

@zulu5157 3 года назад

The Xotic is a brillant solution with a brillant price. The Boss LS-2 can also be mentioned as a good and solid budget solution to keep up the lo end in the mix with the effect signal and the original bass signal.

@basstheworldofficial 3 года назад

great episode!

@surj33t 3 года назад

The "Talking Math" jam needs to be a real thing, love it

@jeffboles2470 3 года назад

PLEASE GOD!!! For the love of 2020 🙏🏻😭🙏🏻

@lewisochoa2761 3 года назад

It reminded me of Holy F*ck in the best possible way.

@fishchips5121 18 дней назад

they absolutely killed it!

@gabrielschirmbeck400 3 года назад

I thought the harassment-level episode was the sovtek one

@G60syncro 3 года назад

Nah... it's gone full on assault now.....

@davethepius 3 года назад

I think th Sovtek episode is just a running joke at this point. They've been talking about a Sovtek for years now.

@benjiboy69420 3 года назад

Sovtek episode will be for the channel's 50th anniversary, no big just have patience /s

@gabrielschirmbeck400 3 года назад

@@benjiboy69420 by then Josh wil have some sort of holographic 3D surround sound tech. Will be a worthy episode

@charliet.sanford2495 3 года назад

“February Stars” and “Hey Johnny Park” from The Colour and the Shape don’t get talked about enough.

@timothyvanburen3431 3 года назад

For over 20 years I have never found the right light drive for bass. Then I saw this, saw Roy using a Morning Glory, realized I also had a Bluesbreaker style pedal (Wampler Pantheon) that I somehow never tried on bass (even though I use "guitar" pedals on bass all the damn time), plugged it in and holy shit it's the sound I've been looking for for forever and I had a pedal that could do it for literally over a year. Kicking myself a little, but thank you.

@shawnmann 3 года назад

Can we please just take a second to recognize how amazing the drum sound and production is here? Stereo! So clear and rich. No only played well, but the recording of the kit is just awesome.

@arthuraguirrejr.9500 2 года назад

100%

@josephpickard3108 2 года назад

Just bought my first ever bass after 20 years of guitar and then I remembered this episode because of how good Roy is on bass... amazing.

@markhammer643 3 года назад

There are three aspects that get in the way of a pedal being as good for bass as it is for guitar. All of them are remediable, though. 1) Bandwidth. As discussed. Often, this can be resolved by changing one or two capacitor values. Bring the pedal to your local repair guy, along with the schematic, and 8 minutes after unscrewing the lid, it can be optimized for bass...well, assuming the soldering iron was already plugged in. 2) Sensitivity. Basses usually put out a hotter signal than guitar, making it easier for them to overdrive a guitar pedal in undesired ways. The solution can involve changing the gain of the input stage in the pedal, or simply turning down the bass's volume a bit. 3) Spectral emphasis. Most relevant to autowahs, but also true of things like EQ pedals, flangers, chorus, and phasers, all of which shift stuff over a bit to complement the part of the spectrum most meaningful to bass. F'rinstance, whenever I build or mod a chorus, I always include a lo-cut switch for the wet signal, that makes the pitch-wobble inherent to chorus less obvious for the bass, where you want the swirl, but still have more dependable pitch.

@ileutur6863 3 года назад

Exactly. Guitar pedals DO work on bass and will often sound good, but they won't sound as designed and you can't know until you try

@quintessenceSL 3 года назад

You know what else gets in the way? Manufacturers not listing the frequency response so you have some idea of what you are getting into before you blow loads of cash. The low B guys are not amused.

@noname-ng6sj 3 года назад

Actually a good comment!

@coreyknipstein7280 3 года назад

After the last couple of episodes all I want is for my bass to run through a Klon or Morning Glory into a Colour Box. Now I just need to get a Color Box, Klon and Morning Glory....... I regret spending my last paycheck on that crate of vintage Hewlett Packard computer speakers but I was chasing that "1995 Dial Up Internet" sound.

@smelltheglove2038 3 года назад

Damn, so I have to get a crate of HP speakers to get that tone? The ones that are attached to the monitor or the free standing speaker sets?

@Ndlanding 3 года назад

I really loved this episode, and I'm sure I'll be watching it a few more times just to hear that wonderful music you guys were playing!

@jloiben12 3 года назад

When you talked about rolling off the low end all I could think of is the line from the Incredibles. If everything has bass then nothing has bass

@cchavez248 3 года назад

Corn!

@rickmcginnis 3 года назад

So - JHS Sessions. Why isn't this a thing?

@cameronlesley2428 2 года назад

I must’ve missed the videos with Roy last year but seeing them has given me insights that I’ve been searching for . Superb video series

@randtotheboone4897 3 года назад

Awesome guys! These videos just keep getting better. Thanks to Roy for doing this.

@megachunk6680 3 года назад

Great episode, love Roy he’s amazing his transition from electric to upright bass on clipping is inspiring!

@anthonystevens7206 3 года назад

As both a guitar player and bassist, Roy is so inspiring to me! The way he fits in the feel is PERFECT and his ideas are so tasty. I’m putting my Morning Glory into my bass rig because of him!

@sergiopedro4668 3 года назад

Roy, Josh, Nick, you guys rock in every sense of the word. From the heart, thank you!

@joecarl5473 3 года назад

Awesome episode Josh and crew!!! Informative, as always. But those had to be some of the tastiest jams yet!!! Bass should pedal more often!

@RobUttley 3 года назад

you guys **CONSISTENTLY** PLAY THE BEST JAMS ON RU-vid. And this week is no exception.

@seancombs5062 Год назад

Amazing! Among my top ten “Subscribed, allowed notifications and will watch again “ list, coming in at a solid 4 with a bullet. I thoroughly enjoyed being able to witness the dynamics between professionals being creative. Thanks for that.

@skyviewdesign 3 года назад

Absolutely loved watching this AND the livestream episode! SO good!

@ceollan952 3 года назад

This was really a great episode. I always figured that because the pedals cut the low end, it wouldn't be enough to just boost them after the fact. It's always cool to learn new things.

@dwightjackson8636 3 года назад

I have played bass over 30 years in many local bands. Have used fuzz and flanger with eq. Great swamp bass sound that went over well. Your videos or great and I'm a big fan. Thanks for guiding us musicians in pedal greatness...DJ

@chrisdanuegis4752 3 года назад

Always a clean blend! As long as there’s a hint of that clean signal coming through, you can boost it back up later either in the chain or in the mix. Thank you for my “FINALLY” episode 🙏😻

@evancihon7678 3 года назад

Oh snap, I started playing bass about a year ago. I moved from guitar to bass ......oooooo I know I know. The church I play for needed some bass players and I said I'd pick it up and help out when I can. Short story longer I basically grabbed my over drive compressor and verb from my guitar rig and the rest is history at this point. No one has booed me off stage yet so I'd say it's a win. Also, I'd like Roy to be my spirit animal if I can choose that sort of thing.

@mllahTime289 3 года назад

Thank you guys so much for connecting with the bass players following you guys!!!! ❤️

@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy 3 года назад

I don't even HAVE a "bass pedal." Even when I do play bass, it is running through my guitar pedalboard, and it is every bit as useful.

@kane62898 3 года назад

I would love an episode where you compare some of the most popular bass direst boxes. Loving these bass videos!

@johnnybeverage Год назад

I just love this channel so much. Just constantly cool content with great people. Time after time.

@benpierce8137 3 года назад

This has got to be my favorite video of yours so far Josh. I've been a big fan of JHS pedals for years but I have been listening to MuteMath since before the beginning. Back when Earthsuit was still playing local gigs circa 1994-95. I got invited to their CD release party at The Howlin Wolf in New Orleans for the first MuteMath full album. I love every album. I pity anyone who never got to see them live. This was such a fun episode to really see stuff used in a different way.

@SethDStanley 3 года назад

I got to see them live twice, and it wasn’t enough times...

@themiddlecase 3 года назад

So excited! Roy is incredible, I love his work with Mutemath.

@anthonymichael3029 3 года назад

This is the absolute best content on RU-vid. I’m in for 4 JHS pedals since I started watching these.

@Jimmichanga999 3 года назад

Perfect episode. I am a bass player that is just getting into pedals and was wondering if guitar pedals would work just a few weeks ago. I love the demos and playing on this episode. Keep up the great work!

@bicisnobombas 3 года назад

I appreciate that all the people working on this episode have far more experience, knowledge, and success than me. That said, in all my years playing bass with bands I've found that in smaller live situations bass drive pedals absolutely need a clean blend to avoid having the bottom end of the entire band drop out. A dedicated sound-person can help, but even then he/she can't be expected to readjust the bass' eq every time you kick some dirt on off. If the drummer is playing without mics in a small place, you can just forget about it all together!

@leandrogasperotti3333 3 года назад

Thanks man!! Roy i just knew you from the other video ( yes i love those 2 hours) and you change my style off play, really open up news forms and grooves. Cheers from Argentina!!

@kellywilson2481 3 года назад

What a fantastic episode!! Keep them coming.

@aidangardner3770 3 года назад

The Talking Math jam might have been my absolute favorite jam in the shows history!! Making bass boards is one of the best things ever, hope everyone starts giving their bass players pedals!

@adamcarbone5216 3 года назад

Loved the discussion of mixing low end, balancing it between bass and bass drum. Super helpful as I craft tones! Gotta get me a Boss GEB-7... And then some more pedals!! 😍

@joelrudnick 2 года назад

Great sounds! Nailed the imapala sound. I got to meet Roy when he checked out my band in Murfreesboro several years ago and we completely geeked out. Very nice guy and amazing bass player.

@georgem564 3 года назад

Bass really makes every song so much more groovy.

@jarkkohypponen6198 3 года назад

Roy from my favourite band in JHS pedals show, Christmas came early this year!

@christophe2987 3 года назад

I love those jams with Roy, and the way you all play together :-). I don' know how much time you rehersal before the video, but it's really amazing :-)

@emeraldchan7770 3 года назад

I was just thinking about this this week!!!! Perfect timing !

@toddwarren4354 3 года назад

Bassist here. Been using my TU-2 as a splitter and using the Morley ABY Mix pedal to mix my Line 6 M9 and Mojo Mojo back in with my clean signal. It works great but a Morning Glory sure would be a great addition!! 😁. Thanks for another great show!

@pascalk1922 3 года назад

Fine episode - great jams - quality sound . Roy's a great player and the concept for his bass rig is inspirational . Can recommend the live with Roy from a while ago . Favorite jam : "Talking Math" .

@RandomButtonPusher 2 года назад

Not sure how I missed this episode when it came out, but this was the best collection of jams ever on this channel. Roy is very much my kind of bass player and Josh and Nick were up to the task he presented.

@arthuraguirrejr.9500 2 года назад

When the drums come in for the Talking Math jam tho *chefs kiss* Everything sounds amazing btw. Mixing and playing is top notch.

@ShoesMagoo Год назад

Thanks for the rundown. Even though there are plenty of great bass gear review channels, I have yet to find one that goes into the kind of meticulous depth that you guys do for guitar-specific pedals. More of these low-end lowdown lectures would be very much appreciated.

@GrizzzlyTCG 3 года назад

Mutemath is my favorite band of all time. do more with any of the guys!!! Love Roy so much

@reiddillashaw2383 3 года назад

Great episode, and I loved the jams! Roy is a fantastic bass player. That said, I'm a fan of Addison's bass playing with Nick and Josh too. Enjoyable as always. Thanks JHS Show!

@DeadWhiteButterflies 3 года назад

I'm not imaging things, right? This is a real bass episode and not just a lucid dream I've stumbled into? 😲 Finally did it. Now, if we yell loud enough, we'll get the Sovtek episode 😆🤣

@dtwink12 3 года назад

Use an EQ. Of course! Time to go try all my new "bass" pedals.

@kurttube77 3 года назад

Really enjoyed this, thanks guys!

@jonathanhatchmusic 3 года назад

YES. More episodes with Roy please? It's prescribed medication for 2020. Great pedalboard...I've got a P with flats waiting to plug in!

@deadscenedotcom 3 года назад

Mutemath does indeed rock. This was great. Thanks! I play bass and found this episode to be inspiring for sound design.

@stevesmith3990 3 года назад

Great video and wonderful playing from Roy.

@ekimmikeb 3 года назад

Def one of my favorite episodes to date!

@lucaswarner9756 3 года назад

Great episode! I loved the Talking Math jam. I would love to write songs with Mitch, he really has a handle on the vibes!

@onesource9527 3 года назад

Very nice examples. I'm a guitarist with a new appreciation for what can be done with a bass. A good bass player adds a lot to the mix. Really nice pedal choices.

@yoshiobermeyer2867 3 года назад

Roy is an awesome bassplayer! Great work and great sounds...wow.

@tite93 3 года назад

Some overdrives and fuzzes do suck out some of the low end on bass. If you're going for hi-gain distortion you might want to think about a bass booster or using some clean blend before overdrives

@UmasPapa 3 года назад

Mutemath is one of the most underrated bands around. Odd Soul is an amazing record. I’m convinced Roy is largely responsible.

@rafafontanez6961 3 года назад

Amazing!! I been playing guitar for many years and I have a lot of guitars pedals and I was wondering if I can use some of those guitar pedals for my bass pedal board. Anyways! Thank you! Great Episode!!!

@I-Libertine 2 года назад

I love that driving mid bass sound. Just cuts thru the mix, like great bass sounds if the late 60's/early 70's (think top 40 tuned-for-car-radios compression). The bass becomes a real voice not just a feel.

@whiskeymike8010 3 года назад

Perfect! I was just thinking about this today.

@eegjr.324 3 года назад

Josh thanks for Mutemath on record time. Because of that segment I went and checked them out and now I am hooked. Awesome pedals Roy nailed The Less I Know the Better sound on that jam. NICE!

@PowerInOne22 3 года назад

Every new video 1 ups the last. Great watch, thank you.

@kentlangham5811 3 года назад

I really liked "Chevy Impala", you should lengthen it a little and put it on vinyl.

@chrisanderson5912 3 года назад

As always, great job guys. For many years I’ve had to fight with sound guys about effects. Normally I’ll get a line ran directly to the board from my bass. In the show I use fuzz and chorus so this wouldn’t be represented in the mains. Again, thank you for doing this show and happy holidays.

@ferreiravini 3 года назад

Some old mate from work show me the "mutemath (album)". That was mindblowing. Than odd soul came out and makes me believe that some the world could be better after all... that was incredible! One of those great albums that you can repeat non-stop. Thanks, just it.

@bkebradley 3 года назад

I've been watching you guys for years, waiting for this episode as a bass player. You got me to play guitar a little more at least.

@adamcarbone5216 3 года назад

Excited to try the Pulp and Peel on bass!

@amanontheland7892 3 года назад

Josh! I'm a guitar player (not entering the contests). I just want to say that what you are doing on your channel this year and this episode in particular is the pinnacle of music orientated content creators on RU-vid. Well done! I'd love to see you do acoustic guitar pedals someday. Love Nick's drumming too.... he's _Really_ good and a lot better than Ok :)

@newpinglegend9304 Год назад

Acoustic pedals: good idea, and agreed about Nick.

@Frankyandhisguitar 3 года назад

Well there you have it. Thanks JHS for another great one. 👍

@11ciwi 3 года назад

So this is the greatest and bestest JHS video of all time. It caters to the unsung heroes of music (bassists) with one of the top 3 bass players of all time (and generally all around fabulous human being). Thank you Josh and Nick AND ROY!!!! PS I swear I'm a bassplayer...

@mattdavis7938 3 года назад

Awesome! Someone I trust telling me what I want to hear. Rock on fellow Bassists!

@kanehicks9321 3 года назад

Nick your the man. Keep up the good work. Wish I could keep a beat like you bud 🤘

@midwestexiled842 3 года назад

My first bass pedals were a Big Muff guitar pedal and a Boss compressor. Purple Gaze was a pretty sweet jam. Thanks for the content!!! 🤙

@hek_music 3 года назад

great episode! killer sounds...

@TheColtronamor 3 года назад

Finally some (more) Bass guitar love! I would have loved to have seen the dirt function of the Pulp 'n' Peel demoed. That pedal is such a great one stop shop for live bass guitar rigs... DI, comp, little bit of EQ and a little bit of grit!?!?! YES please!

@brianvankley3529 2 года назад

I’ve been using a Kodiak Tremelo on my bass pedalboard for about the last 6 mos. and it sounds absolutely incredible. Blend knob makes all the difference!

@guitar8617 3 года назад

Loved this, MuteMath is near the top of the list of my favorite bands all time. Armistice title track has to be my favorite song of their whole catalog.

@mattkovarik646 3 года назад

Love the vid my friends, keep it up!

@RootsBassCanada 3 года назад

The best video ever on this channel. Just my favourite.

@BillonBass 9 месяцев назад

I was the touring bassist for the Motown group The Miracles a few years back before Covid hit. So obviously I really needed to nail that Jamerson bass sound as the guys insisted on the music sounding like the original recordings. I used a mic’d SVT that ran clean into the console then on my pedal board I used a Bass Soul Food on very light overdrive and then also used my Ampeg SCR DI preamp to EQ the bass back in but also used the Scrambler ever so lightly that I blended with the Soul Food to even it out a bit. For that extra JJ punch I also engaged my noise gate just enough to add that attack. String mute of course. It’s not exactly the way I’d do it in a studio but live it sounded spot on. At one concert in St Louis we had one of Michael Jackson’s former sound guys with us and he was blown away at how he was able to take my pedalboard sound and blend it with the mic’s clean sound to recreate that epic bass tone. I’m not a big pedal guy but they can be used very creatively to come up with some great sounds. Today I have 13 pedals on my live board and loving it!

@jamesbarisitz4794 3 года назад

Those jams were magnetic. Merry Christmas! ✌

@FretboardVisualization 3 года назад

Nice! Do more bass stuff! My favorite Mutemath song is Hit Parade. Goosebumps and stankface are unavoidable.

@TxBassMan31 3 года назад

Good stuff! I just enjoy watching you talk. I love pedals when I play bass, but they really need to jive without having to add a bunch of stuff to make it work. I really liked how Roy made this pedalboard work for his style and he sounded damn good. There is no wrong way because if it sounds good, it is good. :)

@groovetube19 3 года назад

I'm so glad you covered this subject. I'm a late blooming boss player (picked up the instrument at 45). My first 3 bands were all tribute bands. STP, Heart, Foo Fighters (I started that one). Funny thing, I called my Foo tribute Everlong. Anyway, I'd LOVE that board and I'd put it to good use. I have already been a subscriber and look forward to all your videos. I really loved the shameless plug video! Happy holidays. Be safe and be well.

@JLittle318 3 года назад

There are records that define an era in your life and Odd Soul is one of them for me... Right out of college starting my career, meeting my wife to be and taking the “next step”. Glad to see Roy again on the show and highlighting this awesome album. - Also, was there not a missed opportunity here with “Math Heads” as the song title???

@SethDStanley 3 года назад

I love JHS even more now, Roy is my favorite bass player from my favorite band! Mutemath is criminally underrated!