How to use Offset Blocks in Mario Maker 2 with the Banned Wagon devs! 

There are many things one could wish for.... Working slopes, for example

ANOTHER TIME TRAVELER?????

Clearly

how

If someone actually was a time traveller I highly doubt they would use it for mario maker 2

ok but how

@@eetuthereindeer6671 Nothing gets by you 🤓

Thanks

Tysm! Sorry this video took so long, we were debating on suuuper extending it, or to just leave the newly discovered tech to a part 2

I agree with this, ive never had any corruptions from that track

Trust us, the level is corrupt if you don't delete that remaining horizontal track. We lost a whole Wagon World level that way.... :(

@@bannedwagonteam F Also I have made a whole level where I fsr kept the tracks for the offset blocks, it didn't corrupt maybe its just me idk

The nominal position snaps to the tile that an offset block has the most of its area inside

Uh oh

Not to me! There's been some incredible progress being made by modders and decompilation folks right now though, so we may know at some point!

I've never looked into the code, but at a guess, it looks like a reference/pointer manipulation (e.g. like Stale Reference Manipulation in SM64) causing a delinking between the offset block and the track, which allows you to put the block in a state where it thinks its on a track (so it uses the track position) but the track doesn't exist to move it and then probably because the block is making references to a non-existent track, this messes with the code and causes it to skip parts of the code. Looking at how the glitch is setup, this is possibly how it works: The editor keeps an array of tracks in the level and starts with: [Horizontal Track] The track has a reference to the block that it's holding (contents = block) The block has a reference to the track its on (track = 0) Block Horizontal Track The first track is removed. The curved track is created and added to the array [Curved Track] The claw setup has a reference to the track its on (track = 0) Claw Curved Track Undoing causes the previous track to reappear and now the track array is [Horizontal Track, Curved Track] Normally the editor would fix references to the tracks so that they update to match the new track state (claw.track = 1) but the Hammer Bro causes that to break so it's still on track 0, but now track 0 is the horizontal track Claw ---> Horizontal Track Claw

@@Oshroth hmm thats cool how does the claw complicate things? also, why is making a hammer bro into a sledge bro required for the black hole glitch? another thing is that the old old black hole glitch from like ~1.0.0, where you use rails and blocks on the rails to bypass the entity limit, does not work anymore even if you boot the 1.0.0 game to try. maybe this glitch was fixed with a firmware update????

@@skyjumper4097 That I'm not sure of, but the Giant Hammer Bro in a claw must be corrupting the game state or the undo stack (All software that has undo functionality keeps track of changes usually as a stack or similar data structure) in some way

The Hammer Bro combo is breaking the undo stack/game state somehow because it somehow becomes non-undoable. It takes 5 steps to create the Hammer Bro setup after deleting the block track but none of those steps get undone when pressing the undo button 5 times (and pressing it the 6th time undoes the removal of the block track)

Sometimes it doesn't let you make the hammer bro big if there's an obstruction nearby (i.e. a conveyor or the bottom of the level)

@@bannedwagonteam I've tried it with empty space too. It seems like it's patched only on mine, super weird

Essentially anything you do in this game that leads to unexpected interactions, it'll get your levels deleted

@@bannedwagonteam can your mario maker account get banned with it tho?

@@AleyzRo Yes :(

We're counting on it ;)

Looking into the file structure, we've found that each tile can be sub-divided into 160 increments. So if you were to manually edit a level file, you could shift a block 1/160th of a tile to the right for example

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@@jneen didn't know you were such a... mario.. maker...