OMG!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! One of the few tutorials I have seen where we use analysis tools to get right to the root of the issue. Most tell people to just mash some buttons till it sounds better. THANK YOU!!!!
Hey Love your videos but I am still confused on the Bandwidth portion. Not sure how to properly set mine. Your sibilance starts at 6k Hz and ends at 15k Hz. How did this let you know roughly 4k Hz of bandwidth was proper? Thanks
Hi Austin, Sibilance differs for everyone. Everyone's voice is different and different microphones have different frequency responses. You can enable the Spectral Frequency View to help you identify your range. This video explains how to use it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S_twOrxYKHo.html
Just recently started getting into doing voice over/acting work these tutorials have been MONUMENTAL in helping me figure out what the hell I am doing. Seriously, SERIOUSLY, seeeeriously, thank you!!!!!
Mike what is the cost for an hour tutorial / screen sharing on this ... I have watched the video, I am not confident that I am using this feature correctly and I have a client that is annal about the "S" so I would be willing to pay for an hour session... please advise... Thank you. - Trei (tree)
holy SHIT this is probably the first time I've gotten my de-esser to really work on my voice. I think because I have some buck teeth, I get bad sibilance usually I try to use the de-esser and estimate where the sound is in Premiere pro, but thissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss is a way better way to do it and it sounds so much better. Its crazy, my Sibilance is way sharper than your examples, and it still took care of it! yay. but I think because its so high, it limits it, so theres a somewhat noticeable "limiter" in the sound but this is great
THANK YOU. I'm trying to get better at audio (always been my weakest post production skill)- and this was so informative, short, and concise. Exactly what I needed. Thanks! Can't wait to keep applying this!
What's the coloration Mike makes with the bandwidth? He see's the symbalince starts at at 6000 and ends around 15000 and decides the bandwidth should be around 4000...how why? I don't get that seems important to get the bandwidth right.
I know there's some variation but if I came out with ~4850 Hz which is FAR lower than the examples here, is that normal too or am I not doing it right?
Sibilance is dependent on a number of factors, the most important being your voice and your microphone so frequencies differ for everybody. One easy way to check when you set the DeEsser is so to check the ouput sibilance only option at the bottom. If you're hearing just the sibilant "S" sounds then you've set it right, if you're hearing a lot of other sounds then you haven't found the affected frequency range yet.
Hey mike! Your videos is very informative, i've got one project which recording an interview in a crowd place. Could you show/tell me how to make the sound better in the crowds? Or maybe any trick to reducing the crowd noises? Thank you so much
Hi Mike how r u doing .. I have an offer for u can but I need u to help me in the price .. I have about 30 to 40 old recorded lectures every one is about 1:30 hour in average.. how much .do u want for each lecture.. and they are very noisy 🙄
This is very informative. But here's another way. I have a cheap condenser microphone that has a lot of sibilance. And even I use a deesser, some sibilance sounds still get through because those sibilant sounds have different bandwidths. The technique I use is I open the spectral frequency window, highlight the entire high frequency range then set up a hard limiter. It clips those high frequency sounds that tend to emphasize sibilance but keeps the loudness of those other high frequency sounds that don't have sibilance. It really works and clips those sibilant sounds even if they have different bandwidths...
Thanks so much Daniel - glad to be of help! If you wanted to say thanks why not donating to Red Cross Ukraine efforts? donate.redcross.org.uk/appeal/ukraine-crisis-appeal - much appreciated!
is it actually possible to do this in premiere pro? their De-essers don't seem to cut the mustard for particularly sharp Ses and short of actually exporting the audio out to audition, editing it, then replacing all the audio and exporting again (omg talk about a ballache) i don't see how it would be poss
The effects available inside Premiere Pro are the same effects available in Audition. The one advantage of processing in Audition is you have more tools available to ensure you have the DeEsser set correctly.
@@MikeRussell ah ok - the audition ones seem to be a bit more effective in my incredibly limited experience with it - although i think 90% of this is because i don't really have a clue what i'm doing with PP.
Could you please help in bringing Reaper plugins to Audition? It seems it can't be done. thanks. There's no video for it. All of my Reaper's plugins just don't show up after setting directory and scanning it.
My last question in the previous thread must have fallen through the cracks :-) That issue still hasn't gone away, so I will ask again if that's ok. How can I completely clear the frozen outline from the Frequency Analysis window? Double click on the same Hold colour button only changes the colour of the outline but it does not delete it. Even when I closed and reopened Audition, and updated it to the current version - when I opened this window, that OLD graph was still there! I can use live display and take prints of them, but they are all sitting over that OLD outline which simply doesn't go away. How can I completely remove it?
@@MikeRussell Thanks, will check it out. Another issue and a painful lesson - I applied De-esser to my file before normalisation, and now it sounds as if there was no De-Esser applied at all! Now I have to do it all over again, and still did it manually. How come higher volume pronounces the hissing? Do you have a video on the sequence of .effects when one is cancelling out or changing another?
I'm using 4000 here as it works on the voice that I'm using but you'd need to set this up individually for the voice your using for the frequency and bandwith.
Great tuto. What i i am missing is ... things with bad audio stuff... sometimes i get a video with a interview where the mic is overbossting the voice .. or the interviewer puts the mic to far from the person... can you make like one of those " REAL LIFE " examples.
Dude. this is STELLAR thank you! I love it. I use fabfilter and waves deessers. but using the spectral analyzer and frequency analysis to FIND the target frequency range is GENIUS!
Mike hello from Hellas. My name is George i would like to thank you thousand times for yr helping videos. Thank you so so so much you hane been helpfull ang easy learning.
Hey man! I wanna thank you for making this! Sibilance has been the biggest issue in my recordings and I zero in on it every time I record! Bought a DBX 286s just to try and kill the sibilance and it still wasn't satisfactory although much better than the manual way of doing it! And I knew about and tried to use the De Esser in Audition before but didn't know a damn thing about how to operate it! Today I was turning in a project and watched your video before submitting it, and my god did understanding how this thing works make such a huge difference! I greatly appreciate you making this, I can't express that enough! Keep it up man!
Yowsa. I've been struggling with identification of the right center and width. This is a more drawn out approach than anything I've seen, but also something where I can go into it with confidence that I really have the right spot and am not impacting anything I don't want to. In short, this was a head and shoulder's higher bar set for deessing, and I love it. Perhaps the biggest beauty of it is that, after the first use, it's going to be a "jump right to the spot and verify that it hasn't meaningfully moved or grown/narrowed in width and then fine tune. Not long after that I'll know the behavior for a given voice/mic combo very well and know exactly why I have confidence in it - deessing in moments and then only this detail again with a new voice or new mic. I presume one would also want to carefully analyze the before after if using this on a track where any pitch shifting is occuring. Once again, thanks bunches. I love your very on point coverage - my time feels well used. I'll definitely be looking for any pop-up sale or the like on your courses. Two questions on the audio production course: How much total course time is there in terms of instruction time (not time spent on assignments)? I get that time isn't a great measurement of content/value (which varies a lot by how clear and concise you are and even how fast you talk), but it gives a flavor of time to complete the course and general scale of content. Are the assignments graded or is there feedback of any kind in them? One issue I've had with a very narrow course I've taken (on EQ) is that, while there is a "solution", there really isn't a method for feedback on what *I* did. Mine may be different, but that could just mean it's done to a different taste or it could mean (like it or not) it's awful. Helping understand if anything I did was worthless or harmful and why would be invaluable to learning. My wife has done cooking classes where her assignments are graded (odd for a web based course, but they have a methodology that adds value). Again, thanks for all you do for the community.
Thanks for asking this Rob! You'll find around 2-3 hours worth of content in the Audio Production Course specifically and, YES, all your assignments are reviewed by me. So you'll get personal feedback based on what YOU do. Hope that helps - for more detailed information do feel free to drop us a line musicradiocreative.com/contact
Thank you for this excellent tutorial. You are a great teacher! I have a terrible "S" and your technique helped me polish up my voice for online classes. Thank you! And I'd now love to learn how to add some warmth like you have in your voice. Best regards!
Hi Sonya, glad to have helped and good to hear you've got the Deesser working for you. Check out this video on making your voice sound better ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8cR5vkOWR0M.html
Hi Mike, thank you so much for this video this really helped me a lot!! My one question is after you’ve done everything in the video, do you apply it to the entire audio file or one by one with the specific “s” spots??
super tutorial thanks! but you have skipped showing us where/how to take a print of the frequency analysis view...can't see any button to do this...could you explain pls