How to: Vermont Title Loophole and why it doesn't work in Ohio 

When it comes to the DMV, it just depends on WHO assists you. Some DMV tellers are more lenient than others. I've actually walked out of the DMV (because of a difficult/strict teller) and returned another day just so i could get a different (and nicer) teller to help me....and ultimately getting my paperwork/title/etc. processed. A lot of these DMV tellers love to push you around (and give you a hard time) - just because they can.

I just got a free 87 XR4TI with no title/bill of sale from Michigan, had no issues when i did the abandoned vehicle title, took a little bit over 3 months, $200 and some running around a bit to the clerk, judge and DMV, but had no issues other wise.

OP: "Ohio is one of the WORST states in terms of DMV strictness." NJ: "Hold my beer."

Ohio is fun with registration too. Had a 1990 Aerostar a couple years ago. Argued with the clerk for way too long about needing the ECheck documents. It was 30 years old, technically a 'historic' vehicle, and 25+ year old vehicles do not need the ECheck. He eventually used a calculator on the date... and then let me get my registration :)

Hope you read this comment. I had the exact same experience at the DMV in SC when I went to transfer my title from my '96 Dakota. They got out the big book and went into the room and chatted and pointed at me, etc. I found the truck in a junkyard after 10 years of searching for it. It was my grandfathers truck and also the truck I drove to highschool. The original title was shredded by the junkyard. Luckily I was even able to buy the whole truck from the junkyard. I was somehow able to obtain a Vermont title for it. I went to transfer it, and they said I couldn't. My situation was like yours except at the end of it, they said in the DMV system my vin was deemed "junked", or no longer existed. So I had 2 options, vin swap it, or turn it into a drag truck. So I am basically turning it into a drag truck now. I was going to drive it on the street with the Vermont plates, but it currently doesn't run. I was going to re-register it once I got it going later this year, but they just recently put an end to the Vermont loophole. Basically with your car, your best bet was to sell it to someone who lives in Georgia, a no titling state.

if you run into a title issue again, its really easy and relatively cheap to get a bonded title in Michigan, and to my knowledge it should be super easy to transfered that to an ohio title.

I'm glad you posted this, I've been looking at a car that is pre 1974 from Alabama. The seller said 1974 and prior did not have a required title in Alabama, so the car he is selling does not have a title. I also live in Ohio, so this will probably be a major problem.

Thanks. Hopefully TN DMV doesn't give me the same problem. DMVs should NOT punish honesty

I did this on my galaxie I just kept the Vermont tags since it's not a daily

You could “sell” the car with the Vermont title to your wife or a friend and they can easily go into the DMV and get an Ohio title then they “sell” it back to you. Little extra work and cost but they can’t really argue someone buying a car from Vermont and bring it to Ohio.

Great Video! I tried to do the Vermont loophole for my motorcycle before I realized that Ohio is really tricky, just received the plate in the mail, and happened to see this video before I tried to get title transferred. My question is, is it really unreasonable to ride somewhat frequently with Vermont places? I live in the country, so I rarely have encounters with cops, but its bound to happen sometime. If I do happen to get pulled over, could there be any serious repercussions? Or would I just get a simple citation / warning? Thank you for the info, and sorry if that's a stupid question haha

I have read that the loophole is now closed 😔

Cool rim collection… did u end up keeping the enkies off the acura?

Is it worth building a fist gen legend? I have my eyes on one but I’m worried about parts and aftermarket. From what I can tell there is a ton for the second gen but not the first. So is it even worth getting a first or should I look for a second gen?

Hey I recently just submitted step by step off this video. Thank you for making it simple. After watching a couple more vids I saw you’re supposed to put in your license number with state letters like Ct for Connecticut in the Vermont license spot on the registration form . Do you think this will be an issue or did u not fill it out and they not give u an issue ?

I think David straight did a vid about this

Thanks for posting this video! I have an old mustang with just a bill of sale that I bought as a parts car but it’s really too nice to cut up and and scrap! Problem is the bill of sale I have is from the guy I got the car from not the last titled owner ! Not sure if Vermont would accept that bill of sale that the name does not match the last registered owners name?

I would think that your Vermont registration is a legal document, showing your ownership and they would be obligated to honor it

I wonder how NY State would accept it. We do adjoin it up north so that may be why I see a reasonable number of VT plates, even down in NY City. Hmmm...

Could you have a buddy transfer it to another state, then to Ohio? Might have to pay taxes a few times, but I don't see why that wouldn't work

make a video on the honda fit!

Anyone deal with Oregon? I have a lead on an old camaro - No title

So should I try to sell or title the vehicle in the state it was last titled in?

Has anyone tried to get a title in Colorado with a Vermont registration?

Can you sell it to someone in a neighboring state, have them title it, then buy it back?

Would doing the Vermont title work up here in Canada?

Does anyone know if CT has an issue accepting VT title/registration in this way?

They seemed to change title processes in my county? because now, instead of going to the DMV to do title shit, you have to go to the title office, so does that change anything??? I have a 87 200sx I got last summer, that came without a title and I want to be able to drive the thing. Is there a way to fix this?? I live in akron, ohio so idk how different it is in columbus or other parts of ohio. But they changed things up here a bit. Im just afraid to find out the car is stolen or something. Because accoding to the previous owner, the guy he bought it off of lost the title, and he just gave me the bill of sale, him and the previous owner had. So idk kind of messed up situation, but they NEED to change these old ancient laws, and realize that for some people cars arent just a form of transportation for some people, but a hobby and a lifestyle of sorts. AND vermont is the only state that seems to realize that, given that they allow you to get a registation for cars that are 15 years or older. Which is how all states should be, but I guess its just boomers in office, trying to effect peoples hobbies and interests and shit, idk, rant, but bit drunk and this shit pisses me off. Any help though??

This whole title thing needs to be fixed. It should never be this difficult to title any vehicle

Try again at another DMV you just got a ball buster clerk.

For any one watching this video, the vermont loophole is no longer a thing.

We can't be bothered to provide a paperwork solution for you so you'll have to scrap your vehicle. WTF?! Also, that tax on the NADA value is some bullshit.

Ohio moment.

Wanna v6 swap a crx? I've got the shell you've got the drivetrain lol

Ohio sounds almost as bad as Californias SMOG for a per 90's......Very few places do it anymore let alone passing the dam thing....Was a nice try, I never heard about it....

I would buy the car from you

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