HOW TO WIRE A CENTRAL HEATING SYSTEM FROM SCRATCH - S PLAN

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S Plan heating systems need to have a nice neat wiring center to enable everything from the plumbing up to work properly! I show you what the wires do and how the system works. The orange wire, white wire, red wire, blue and earth wire. We look at room thermostats, cylinder thermostats and loads more. Enjoy! We'll look at the Zone Valve or 2 port valve. This will also help you replace the zone valve head of a Honeywell valve, along with our other videos.
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@plumberparts 4 года назад

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@MenacingPrince 4 года назад

Hi, My Guy. For about 5yrs I've been learning on the job how to do the wiring. As a plumber, having the knowledge and capability to do it myself instead of getting a sparky to do it is such an achievement. Great video My Guy.

@plumberparts 4 года назад

MY GUY!

@ryanrogers93 4 года назад

this guys shit, easily done in a 10 way junction and without bodging a blue for a live out

@yutpx 2 года назад

Excellent demo on how to wire up system, and the neatness of the job is superb! Now could you do this job for me?

@julienparpet 4 года назад

I just bought a house which has an f&e system with no stats or programmer. Just a time clock to turn on the heating which will also do the hot water. The boiler is in a boiler house which is built on to the house. I am planning on having a room stat upstairs and downstairs, a 2 zone programmer under the distribution board downstairs but where is the best place to fit the motorised valves? I will be able to run multicore cables for my connections. Loving the videos man!

@davenderdhanju9518 2 года назад

Help full person love you to much

@1986rikki 4 года назад

Great video and nice music ;) been part of both ale army nights. It's a good laugh and just the ticket at times like this. Even though the only person drinking ale is James! It should just be called AA Club :)

@plumberparts 4 года назад

Yay! Can’t figure out why, after 4000 views, not ONE PERSON signed up! 😂

@salmansarwar9977 4 года назад

I must say I learned something from you thanks

@tinker-time 3 года назад

15 years plumbing can't fine 1 yes 1 spraky to wire up and S plan of A cmbi plus for underfloor heating, can you post a video on wiring up a 2 post vavle set on a combi????? 👍 Good video by the way 👏

@Khanjan-si8me 2 года назад

Thanks 🙏

@georgedeaney7270 4 года назад

Dont use tape to identify switched live as it will go sticky, and red tape!. Use the proper brown sleeving. It will look more professional.🤗

@plumberparts 4 года назад

Yeah didn't have any! I've used it before and its great!

@georgedeaney7270 4 года назад

@@plumberparts Keep up the good work, enjoy your vids. Yours and all the rest of RU-vid's content comming in handy in the current climate. At least yours come from experience and not some rehashed copy of a copy by someone who has never been near tools. Oh like the tune at the end. Second career?.

@plumberparts 4 года назад

@@georgedeaney7270 I wish! Would probably pay better. If you get a moment check out the old Ale Army Beer Club I've got going. Chat about beer and plumbing...random I know!

@georgedeaney7270 4 года назад

@@plumberparts Just an old red Wino is me, but just might give it a go.

@charliewillis8527 4 года назад

Dont tell him that he only knows the F T D way lol

@popandu1170 4 года назад

May be about to throw a spanner in the works here... I think its fair to say the general consensus is NOT to crimp solid core but I am guessing you have in this example?

@jameshansing5396 3 года назад

Plumbers doing wiring.... OUCH!!!!!!!

@riflesports1 Год назад

hi James, what happened to the y plan wiring video???????

@malcolmdoel11 4 года назад

Still waiting for 3 port wiring harness video mate

@joeb1642 4 года назад

What happened to the Y-plan wiring video? Also, have you ever used the WAGO wiring centres?

@MenacingPrince 4 года назад

I find that the wago stuff is good for temp work - feel that using their wiring centers would be such a waste of money.

@d.r.plumbingheating3298 4 года назад

James you will love a Wago box. Trust me I’m a plumber.

@plumberparts 4 года назад

Y plan coming up!

@damianeast6288 4 года назад

Can't get my head around my system that I want to add ufh to, can I get some advice please 🙏

@whitefields5595 4 года назад

Good neat job explained well. BUT ..... you should not have doubled up on the wires into the ferrules, you had enough spare terminals in the strip block. There is a risk of pulling out. Finally always do an earth continuity check throughout the system, especially if plastic pipes are involved! In fact do a video on earth bonding and why it is important. See any video by John Ward for good explanations and examples.

@plumberparts 4 года назад

I did say that a few times in the video. Thanks for your comment!

@whitefields5595 4 года назад

@@plumberparts .... but "they" don't listen and remember ... they only look at the final result. The box has not got enough neutral and earth terminals and could do with some pre-printed labels, so it is OK, but not as good as it could (should?) be .... fyi I took your advice and will soon be posting my own DIY vid ref DESTRATIFICATION on YT so you can I fun at my expense ...... Hold Tight!

@plumberparts 4 года назад

Good luck. It’ll be interesting to know what you think about the process!

@daibhiseaghdha153 4 года назад

have you heard of the van which has a note in the window " no toilet rolls kept in the van over night "

@amateurvegan2636 Год назад

Why would a system have a 3 port and a two port ??

@TheHairyKarl 4 года назад

Tell thee now!

@Spiffin84 4 года назад

Been training at night college now for nearly 2 years an feel I've learnt naff all when I watch your vids as there so much you dont learn there an that I'm picking up from your vids so thanks bud , one day I will watch your vids without a confused look on my face 🤞🤞

@davidkidner6648 2 года назад

If you are going to put 2 cables into one bootlace you should use a double bootlace and also your cable should just protrude through the bootlace

@Ricky-zj6sy 3 года назад

As an electrician I have sorted loads of these out for friends and family, plumbers come and change valves and cock the wires up, that and electricians who have no idea what they are doing in the first place leave S-plans in a total mess. Best solution is to pull every wire out of the wiring centre and identify everything wire by wire and reconnect each wire in turn, then prove the functionality of each channel and it's associated stat and valve.

@garethrendle3766 4 года назад

bootleg ferules are great until you have to trace a fault on the system and end up cutting the ferule off to separate wires to test, then some will be too short to re-connect. there are pros and cons to this. You should also have brown sleeving on any Line conductors that are not already brown.

@mrbachittarsingh9243 4 года назад

Gareth Rendle doubt you've been anywhere near a multi meter, I'll have fries with that thanks Gareth.

@garethrendle3766 4 года назад

bob bob how would you possibly know what experience I have? What a stupid comment!

@plumberparts 4 года назад

Extra belly scrubs if you can guess the cricketer who took THAT catch! (also I forgot my tool belt in this video!)

@Jammydodgers41 4 года назад

Andrew strauss in the greatest ashes series ever

@nigelmiddleton2727 4 года назад

Great video James 👍it's the same system as I have in my home so could come in very useful one day. Hope you don't think I'm being cheeky but I have a small leak under my sink form the mains water supply filter? That's if it is indeed a filter? Its situated just after theater regulator? I can't source the part anywhere, probably because I don't know what it is? 🤔 kind regards Nigel

@adrianoxenham362 Год назад

Fantastic bit of kit the boot ferruls and crimper. Can get replacement ferruls from any electrical merchants. Makes the job cleaner, easier to identify andprofessional

@waynenixon729 4 года назад

From the programmer you had the Brown wire as call for Hot Water and the Black for call for Heating, But you talk about a red wire for call for Hot water going down the white to the cylinder stat (common) and the yellow being the switched call for heat from the cylinder stat. In the diagram you have it labelled as red from programmer for call for Hot water. Confusing! lol

@whitefields5595 4 года назад

Handsome. As I am locked down, I am thinking of converting my Y plan to S plan. I don't really like the 3 port valve buzzing and like the simplicity and controllability of S plan. What are the downsides?

@davidlax9454 4 года назад

There are non

@johnspallen3132 Год назад

Brilliant James 👏 wish you were around 20 years ago when I saw my first wiring station my mind boggled 👏

@tombickerton4114 3 года назад

Just a tip for you . You shouldn’t put two cables into the same ferrules. There is a specific dual one .

@chandreshvarsani2190 2 года назад

thanks you so much for finally putting up this video which i asked you for many years ago, can i please request another similar video showing S Plan Plus using smart heating controls such as that like Hive multi-zone setup for multiple heating zone and hot water . Top man :)

@codegreen5213 2 месяца назад

Hi mate, thanks for this video really good, earned a sub! I have a problem where my Hive system was working for 2 years, suddenly when I request central heating then it lights up like it's requesting it from the boiler, but the boiler doesn't start up. It works when I request hot water though. Any idea what colour wire I'm probably looking for in my wiring centre? I can trace the 2 wires from my Hive unit that request hot water, or central heating, but I don't know what they should be connected to in the wiring centre. Cheers from York!

@Gixer750pilot 4 года назад

Keyboard Warriors “Activated”

@plumberparts 4 года назад

Ahhhh we’ve had a few! Have you signed up on Patreon mate? Thursday lives are great!

@stu7738 Год назад

Good video, helped loads when self fitting a hive controller and switching from the old mass of wires.. used the Wago box instead but followed the approach in here and all was good.

@plumberparts Год назад

Cheers!

@stu7738 Год назад

@@plumberparts only issue I have now is how best to ‘take out’ the room thermostat (in hallway near door and garage door so not practical to rely on.. rather have the hive wireless in the room being the main control. Is it as well to take those wires out the loop and just connect up that link?

@DISCOTECHS Год назад

Hi I am just about to build a system like this using an Ideal Mexico boiler which does not have appear to have a pump overrun. So i assume pump is in parralel with boiler. Also, these busbar pieces for behind N and E, are these included in the Timeguard box, or are they bought sepatate ? Thanks

@alanwilliams4835 4 года назад

Great video you have made it simple to understand top man . There’s a little tip for coding of wiring . Where the red tape is used this should be brown as the wiring is the new harmonised wiring ( ie brown and blue ) . You can buy brown, blue , green yellow sleeving from the wholesalers . I have sometimes come across people using the earth and using it as a conductor as they have only run a 3 core to the cylinder stat DON,T. Run a 4 core then everyone is happy . That also applies to the room stat .NEVER USE USE THE EARTH AS A CONDUCTOR EVER . As per regs . Hold tight 🤪

@georgedeaney7270 4 года назад

Yep. Do it right or not at all. Too many awful and dangerous jobs out there by "Professionals" and amateurs alike. I work on the principle that I might be the next person back to the job so no point in making it difficult for myself...

@mrbachittarsingh9243 4 года назад

Alan Williams hi Alan, you comment demonstrates that you know nothing, stick to taxi driving, regards, bob.

@anthonybird5425 4 года назад

Another great vid Jimbo! You explain things in such a clear and easy way to understand, it makes things so much easier! Unknowingly you’ve helped me out massively in the past with your videos, keep up the good work you legend 👊🏻

@ChristianBHough 4 года назад

Hi James. Here's a question for you.... I'm 37 now. Have been plumbing for a few years and am OFTEC. When I can justify the spend in a couple of years, is it still worth getting a Gas qualification? What's your opinion on Hydrogen boilers and how do you think the roll out will happen. Lay new pipes, or slowly introduce boilers that will cope with a blend and as boilers age and get replaced, upgrade to a boiler that can take a higher blend or is there going to be millions of boilers getting swapped out in a short period of time? When all this malarkey 😷 is over, let me know when you're passing by the Maids Head by the fens, I'll buy you a drink🍺.

@markgilder9990 4 года назад

Christian B Hough One of the gas boys told me that new builds after 2030 will not have gas boilers installed. But there are still millions of gas boilers that will still need servicing etc. Renewable energy seems the way to go with ground source heat pumps and solar etc.

@MansourNaghdi Год назад

Hi Thank you for your kind and easy to understand explanation. Would wrong flow direction of the zone valve cause problems such as boiler not firing !? I have a S system with a heating boiler only in one floor lower and the valves, pump and hot water tank in upper floor. I have changed 3 zone valves and a new pump, the boiler does not fire. I keep reseting the boiler, the indicator diode for heating becomes green but goes off again. It remains in stand by position. Any advise please !? Thx

@jameelamini 8 месяцев назад

I love this video, honestly I must have watched a million videos before this one, and no one says it as easy as you - finally got the confidence to try out my own wiring centre. Question: How would the wiring differ if I had two stats and valves for CH (one upstairs and one downstairs) and then one for HW, and my programmer could do them all separately? I assume if I doubled up the wiring from each stat to each CH valve as you said here, I wouldn't be able to do the separate controls since either room stat would trigger the boiler for the whole house and not separate?

@dimitar4y 2 года назад

Now do this central heating system with... Old wires! Who are so old when you bend them the insulation is all crunchy and baked and just flakes off in chunks! With aluminum wiring! Mwaahhaha! Why do I only get shitty jobs

@andreilapo1973 Год назад

Cable clips cracked from over tightened screws. Bad install only 3/5. Pump missing too. :))

@grahamcourage 3 года назад

Thanks for this video, I just built an extension and upgraded my single system to a zoned system, I copied your wiring center with a junction box and strip connectors as couldn't find a pre wired box in Ireland but it worked a treat and this video saved me a fortune. Love the channel and thanks again

@bigshoe9130 Год назад

I really think this is a job for sparkies and not plumbers/heating engineers. I see sooooo many good installs by plumbers but then their wiring is shocking (literally), and ruins all their good work.

@nickgascoigne1407 7 месяцев назад

Also a small note, from a sparky perspective, red is now brown.. (just to confuse matters) /: ;)

@lexdaniloff 10 месяцев назад

I loVe you mate, thanks a lot, was always scared of wires, after i watched your video i successfully wired megaflow and nest. I own you a beer now:)

@adamjones3249 4 года назад

Pretty neat for a plumber! Wago wiring centre is now available instead of stupid terminal blocks

@dimitar4y 2 года назад

now imagine a box with no labels, and all cables have the same colors, it's all dusty and hard to see what's connected to what, and the customer expects you to get it working.

@magicgsuk6312 2 года назад

Anything you can send/suggest to buy as need get wiring down to a T for fault finding. I know the sequence of operation but need something to read over.

@ApplianceGuy 4 года назад

I don’t really have anything to say so hi

@gmeadowcroft84 4 года назад

Like always great vid James, shame my Mrs didn't enjoy it since I put it on the TV to watch.... Woman 🤷‍♂️

@plumberparts 4 года назад

Typical!

@MAMDAVEM 4 года назад

Great if you could do a Y plan version and show how to wire-up smart thermostats :)

@plumberparts 4 года назад

Will do!

@redemptionwins 3 года назад

@@plumberparts you done it yet?😂

@Woodzy13 Год назад

Thanks for this pal very informative. Gonna watch a couple more times then let it sink in! Plus I have to say I love the wiring 👍🏻 I’ve been a plumber for over fifteen years and have seen some really really messy wiring centres. If only they were all like this one….. 😂

@adrianoxenham362 Год назад

cheeky mistake to see if we were awake? You said red wire from programmer to terminal 8. Should it be Brown to hot water?

@yosephgeorgiou4369 2 года назад

This what I needed got a like and subscribe from me do you have the same type of vid for y plan systems?

@mattiecave Год назад

Mate this is excellent - really helped me understand (as have numerous other videos you’ve done). Plus they’re hilarious - HOLD TIGHT (good catch too 🤣)

@plumberparts Год назад

Cheers man! ❤️

@Gixer750pilot 4 года назад

We all like a tidy box with no stragglers poking out

@nathanmcgee2732 Год назад

Hey, great video, as always! Why do you connect the grey MV cables to a constant live and not the CH on / HW on from the programmer? Doesn't this mean the boiler will run continuously if the valve fails in the open position?

@socialscene6361 Год назад

No, because it's the orange wires - switch return wires from the valve that fires up the boiler.

@charliewillis8527 4 года назад

Lovely bodge up as allways stick to getting pissed up you make a good job of that lol

@plumberparts 4 года назад

Yesssss son!

@syncrosimon 4 года назад

good for you showing how its done and big enough to take any flack. this video has helped me a great deal.

@YousufSTV 9 месяцев назад

This guy is not a plumber 😂 he’s a… spark? ⚡️

@londontrada Год назад

Try using an adaptable box and Wagos, 2 minute job

@alanwalsh4816 3 года назад

Great Video James really hit the Bullseye with what I needed to know. It would be good if we could just send a price of a Ale or two Without subscribing too say Thank You when Your Videos hit The Bullseye

@plumberparts 3 года назад

Haha! Good stuff mate. I think you can send a tip of £1.99 (barely a half!) via the join button.

@hashfaqha 2 года назад

Sorry but its too fast for me, i am a beginner but struggling to understand

@uselessgamer234 2 года назад

So I have an old tank system, there is no programmer that we know of/can find, there is a junction box and then a light switch, one for hot water, one for heating and a stat down stairs. So far no one has managed to work out why my heating get stuck on sometimes, even electrictions, could a missing programmer cause this?

@Kebabicide 3 года назад

I bought those same crimps but there's no BSEN number, and no rating. It's assumption only that suggests they can handle full load/capacity of wire. And what are they made of? Not aluminium hopefully, with a copper cable being inserted. What's the continuity results for these circuits, did the crimps effect the readings at all? Just curious. It's a shame i couldn't watch all video as i wanted some tips for wiring an s-plan for an assessment, hopefully no one gets electrocuted from your mis labelled switch lives as you seem like an nice guy.😁🤞🤞⚡💥💥⚡

@LynGriffiths70 6 месяцев назад

Thank you.. wiring stations fry my head !

@sween187 Год назад

Use a red sleeve instead of tape, much better job. 👍

@chandreshvarsani2190 Год назад

i would say as a best practise that zone valves can be ferruled together PROVIDED something like Regin 5 Way Electrical Connector with Strain Relief are installed between each zone and wirin centre for maintainance and testing. also allow in situ replacement with having to power the whole Heating system just to swap out a zone valve

@royanderson2282 3 года назад

Hi, hit the dislike by mistake. Good video, but you should remind the viewers that this type of work should only be carried out by qualified electricians or competent person's. I know a very good plumber who wired up a S-Plan before, made a mistake and got a bad shock. He got carted off to hospital and found out he had burnt 20% of the soft tissue around his heart.

@BarryPaffey 4 года назад

The only thing wrong with using the ferrules is they don't come in different size/colour combinations to represent the circuit they're being used for, which would be nice. Hopefully, as they get used more the manufacturers will cotton on and make all the colours available in all the sizes?

@plumberparts 4 года назад

This is the biggest gripe for me too!

@eamoncorrigan3936 4 года назад

Hi, Stanley twin burner , oil vortex burner and a wood fired stove to heat a 2500 square feet 2 storey house. Plumber has recommended a Multi Pod system. Downstairs has under floor heating . Upstairs has rads. I’m an Electrician but there’s no schematic issued by plumber.. The home owner wants the Stanley twin burner in the kitchen. With the condenser boiler outside as back up. There’s probably no need for both but the client wants what the client wants. Can any one out there tell me where to get a wiring system at a reasonable cost. The multi pod takes the three heat sources but only has one heat output. So the cooker and burner might share the motorised valves. Will I have back feeds ? I’d prefer a wiring system or control box to take care of this

@davezeraschi7936 4 года назад

If you want James to interact with you then become a Patreon. The ale army is fucking great. Beers and chat Thursday evenings at 7 what else would you be doing. Get on it about 3 quid a month. And he’ll help you loads. Hold tight!

@rickylin3214 2 года назад

What happens when you’re there changing a zone valve. Or fault finding.. wires crimped together, cut them out.. end up without enough slack.. 😰

@ianpurcell7266 2 года назад

Sweet jesus,easy to know your a plumber and not a qualified regeristered electrician.

@plumberparts 2 года назад

The difference is I can do this. Electricians don’t even understand it! 😂🙈

@georgieoates5776 5 месяцев назад

Use sleaving easier tgan tape plus new ours brown is live

@timevans2086 Год назад

Hi. Nice bit of work but I remember you saying you were colourblind, if you weren't joking, should you be wiring this box?

@markgilder9990 4 года назад

I’mPlumbers using Ferrules,. That’s a novelty.😂😎 Times I’m called out by the plumber to sort out his mistake.😂🙄

@HarinderSingh-pz9yi 3 года назад

Hoping someone can help me...I have a 3 port valve, when i press heating the actuator head whirs up you can hear the tank coming to life but then seconds later it turns off...the only way for me to get heating is too turn the water on too...in other words the only way I get heating is to move the toggle on the danfoss head to manual...I've tried two different heads and changed the actual valve body

@dan290571 4 года назад

Love your videos, used your soldering tutorial to fix a screw through a pipe at my friends, thank you.

@andrewbickle3806 Год назад

Great video. Thanks. Any chance you could do a video of hive installs? Combi and s plan? Cheers

@dritantani9207 4 года назад

Hello. I'm struggling to wire a three way valve with motorized actuator with three wires blue black brown on a Audax 8 heating pump. Can't figure out how the reverse motion will occur from the diagram . Any idea pls?

@mirceapalade4415 3 года назад

Hi Does anyone know how to connect a Daikin combi boiler to a S Plan wiring diagram ? What kind of changes need to be made to adapt the initial circuit to the boiler's combi terminals? Thanks

@dieselhatz4247 3 года назад

Mine is an absolute birds nest, I’m a mechanic, and even I’m even disgusted. Going to do this, already got the parts and tools, obviously.

@Truevisionsolutions 3 года назад

Wago L32 junction box is the way to go makes life much quicker! But still this way is good.

@jeffkay1720 3 года назад

Hi. New to heating electrics and you make excellent vids, cant say how much they help. . Some systems have hot water priority but this S plan 2x2 port system appears to work independently or in tandem, with no priority. Am I correct? Is it only Y plan that has priority?

@erf401 3 года назад

Small amenments on the back lid's chart. No 6 marks as (SW/L to Heating Prog) which should be ( L/COM to Heating Prog) No 8 marks as (SW/L to HotWater Prog) which should be ( L/COM to Hotwater Prog) Great video James

@alanjones9885 11 месяцев назад

Jimmy thank you! Just about to have a go at installing an Evohome system and your video was really helpful thank you!

@snipep7246 3 года назад

It would help if you mentioned how many cores are in each Cable supplying each unit. For instance how many wires to the time switch or how many cores on the Thermostats. etc. Good Video though.

@davidlax9454 4 года назад

My only comment you should mention not all boilers use a switched live through microswitch some use low voltage supplied from boiler to zone valve microswitch

@joshpeck2697 4 года назад

Great clip ,as always thanks. ,but to any one who want to buy that tool on Amazon is made by china company pretending to be German.and personal experience using that butts on earth strand, copper aluminiom copper again in damp environment is not too good

@obviouslytwo4u 3 года назад

Video idea : make a video about the cheapest tools that have been useful af. I think many will see how easy you can build a decent tool kit

@stylez4021 4 года назад

i know your not a teacher but im an heating and plumbing apprentice and want to learn about s plan c plan etc just wondered if you knew the best place to go about this for diagrams and stuff?

@garyredfern2542 2 года назад

Awesome video. Really helpful 👍

@ManinderSingh-go4gh 2 года назад

Great video James, really helpful for me.. you star James ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 👍😁

@henryhudson1984 4 года назад

Hi buddy. Love the plumbing vids. Just learning about how to plumb up my new build. Any chance you can share something about an air source heat pump with underfloor heating system? Cheers. H T!

@rajnirvan3336 3 года назад

I love real ales too as I'm a member of CAMRA

@jamesball7381 4 года назад

Please could you do a video on how to move a toilet and sink to the opposite wall of a bathroom/ how to plumb a new toilet and sink in a room with no previous plumbing?

@plumberparts 4 года назад

I’ll add it to the list!

@jamesball7381 4 года назад

@@plumberparts Thank you!