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How to Write a Good Antagonist 

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Enjoy me trying to teach you about morality, suffering, evil, and my discarded screenplay.
Also I had to change the intro last minute so that's why it sounds weird please don't hate me.

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@MegaNightmare4
@MegaNightmare4 4 года назад
Evil at its core, is defined as leaving your shopping cart in the parking lot because you’re too lazy to put it back at the designated area.
@occultblasphemer5972
@occultblasphemer5972 4 года назад
It's convenience for others. There is a shopping cart sitting there waiting for them as soon as they get out of the car.
@TarsonTalon
@TarsonTalon 4 года назад
@@occultblasphemer5972 Not convenience for the guy who has to gather them. I would know. I AM THAT GUY. Oh wait, now I see your profile name. Makes sense.
@chloenelson3951
@chloenelson3951 4 года назад
I wish I could like your comment multiple times
@elijahnajera5425
@elijahnajera5425 4 года назад
This is too damn accurate😑.
@DarkVileScream
@DarkVileScream 4 года назад
Occult Blasphemer most people only get them from the store
@CL30
@CL30 4 года назад
What is evil? Well, it's a point of view. How many "bad guys" think they're the protagonist? *looking at murderhobos*
@scripted_valor
@scripted_valor 4 года назад
Evil is hostile according to the description in 5E' GM guide.
@ThePurbleKing
@ThePurbleKing 4 года назад
There's no alignment requirement for protagonists. Protagonists are the focus of the story, and antagonists are the ones who oppose them. "Evil" is only a matter of perspective *if* the word is used the way some people use "monster": As a way to control behavior and alienate those who they do not like. There are people that believe certain lifestyles are "Evil", but they aren't actually using the term the way it's meant to be used. They don't mean Good vs. Evil, they use "Evil" as "this thing I don't like". There's a reason why it's easier to say that burning someone alive for no reason is Evil, while punching someone for saying a mean thing is more debatable. Evil as a thing has its own definition that is not affected by winners and losers in a given conflict. Someone that wants to cause pain and misery for the sake of causing pain and misery is Evil in the context of alignment specifically because they're all about inflicting downsides on others with no perceivable benefits. But someone that wants to eliminate all members of a cult that wants to spread pain and misery is probably not doing it for Evil reasons. If you want to do something to benefit others, that's good. Good/Evil being used as Ally/Enemy has always been a manipulation tactic and always will be. Honest discussions about Good and Evil won't make those comparisons.
@caboosemd123
@caboosemd123 4 года назад
Heroes are triumphant while villains usually lose." History is written by the victors"
@AGrayPhantom
@AGrayPhantom 4 года назад
Meh. When my players want to play the bad guys, I allow them to play bad guys.
@RadiantJo
@RadiantJo 4 года назад
Scripted Valor ITS NOT OUR FAULT OK We just like going around murdering everything insight. Ok we might have a small problem.....
@narutofror
@narutofror 4 года назад
When I heard at the end “anyone can turn into a villain” my brain went “they just need one bad day”
@Tijnob
@Tijnob 3 года назад
which is a quote disproven by the comic it came from
@lordyellowman
@lordyellowman 3 года назад
I guess you could be right, but that would essentially be the absolutely minimum required and it would have to be a quite catastrophic day.
@thejonathanhoch
@thejonathanhoch 3 года назад
Watch the movie Falling Down with Michael Douglass
@ScythesBlade
@ScythesBlade 3 года назад
@@lordyellowman Like.. losing your job, losing your wife, being press-ganged into working for a... well, gang. Then having some demon show up and throw you into a vat of acid, permanently scarring your entire body for life. When all you wanted to do is be a comedian?
@epolty1994
@epolty1994 3 года назад
@@Tijnob which comic is it in?
@KatWarhound
@KatWarhound 4 года назад
"If no one appreciates my work, and they all live to mock me, why should I even consider them?" -every DM ever.
@domesticcat1725
@domesticcat1725 4 года назад
Rocks fall, everyone dies
@PokemonButcher
@PokemonButcher 4 года назад
@@domesticcat1725 And that was when the GM decided not to share any snacks and turned off their wi-fi router. Then there were rot grubs, vargouille, shadows, and intellect devourers. Lots of them. And, finally, the true mastermind revealed: one lucky halfling bard who merrily ruins it for everyone. ...Then the rocks fall, and everyone dies.
@tarvoc746
@tarvoc746 4 года назад
Huh. I've been a GM for years and I've never felt unappreciated.
@ryanoutram7059
@ryanoutram7059 4 года назад
👀
@feritperliare2890
@feritperliare2890 4 года назад
@@tarvoc746 than you are lucky with your players
@skulldish5956
@skulldish5956 4 года назад
What if the real villains were the friends we made along the way?
@gabriel300010
@gabriel300010 4 года назад
never trust the rogue
@misterghoul9457
@misterghoul9457 4 года назад
Sounds like the average dnd party
@UnNuclear
@UnNuclear 4 года назад
Keep your friends close and your villains closer.
@izharhaque2851
@izharhaque2851 4 года назад
Speedwagon would never say that stop it.
@mdintern
@mdintern 4 года назад
That happened in dnd once
@Snipfragueur
@Snipfragueur 4 года назад
Spiderman : "But with tech like that, you could cure cancer !" Dinoguy : "But I do not want to cure cancer, I want to turn people into dinosaurs !"
@fragile4408
@fragile4408 4 года назад
I forgot that had happened. Thank you for reminding me.
@MarkAndrewL
@MarkAndrewL 4 года назад
Hrmph. Stegron the Motherfucking Dinosaur Man is not "Dinoguy."
@nocount7517
@nocount7517 4 года назад
@Reece Hunerdosse *Saurion
@hopebringer2348
@hopebringer2348 4 года назад
Reece Hunerdosse Donkey!
@macoy3943
@macoy3943 4 года назад
His name is Sauron
@thesharkkiddo8703
@thesharkkiddo8703 4 года назад
"Sorry that turned into a story" DUDE THAT WAS A HELLA COOL STORY!
@kenthefele113
@kenthefele113 2 года назад
@@notthemonad4305 Or a graphic novel.
@gabagaba761
@gabagaba761 2 года назад
@@kenthefele113 or a comic book
@Mira-rl9qw
@Mira-rl9qw 4 года назад
Wakfu made a villain that I fell in love with: A man fueled by his regret of having ignored his family due to his research, who now scours the world killing innocents and gathering their 'essence' to power a time machine so he can go back in time to when his family was alive, his excuse for that being "once I go back in time, all the people I have killed will be alive again." Brilliant design in my opinion.
@LuisBrito-ly1ko
@LuisBrito-ly1ko 3 года назад
Oh, you mean Knox.
@logandunlap9156
@logandunlap9156 3 года назад
Nox is like the golden standard for villains.
@LpsRoseGold
@LpsRoseGold 3 года назад
That sounds like kingpin's story from "into the spider-verse."
@Ixe2077
@Ixe2077 2 года назад
@@logandunlap9156 Disagree, more like "anti-hero" if we were to scale his morality. It's not totally evil, or overly cruel compared to others, but it could be seen as messed up. But he is definitely not a villan.
@MelonLight222
@MelonLight222 2 года назад
He wins mind you, but only goes back like 10 second
@altromonte15
@altromonte15 4 года назад
STEP 1: have the campaign start wtih the villain stealing from the PCs congratulations, you've created a lifelong bond of hate and the players will now burn the world down to get to your villain.
@kylestanley7843
@kylestanley7843 4 года назад
Honestly? Fuckin accurate.
@jakestavinsky3480
@jakestavinsky3480 4 года назад
Make them steal the left boot. Gets them everytime...
@carsonlewis2666
@carsonlewis2666 4 года назад
My primary villan in my Caimpaign destroys the organization that gave the players a home, work, and allies. With nothing left, the players have all the motive they need to fight, I think.
@mrmcawesome9746
@mrmcawesome9746 4 года назад
Optional STEP 2: If you want moral dilemmas and relatibility in your villains, have it be a teenager who steals/kills so they can feed the orphans and street urchins of their city.
@jakestavinsky3480
@jakestavinsky3480 4 года назад
@@mrmcawesome9746 A little cliched, make it a 20-something stealing enough to start her own small business so she can get out the slums and make a better life for herself
@guibin
@guibin 4 года назад
Everytime you said "from my point of view," my mind auto-completed the sentence with "the jedi are evil!"
@Audiotrocious
@Audiotrocious 4 года назад
gui bin Jedi are the cause of suffering. Go ask G0-T0
@theapexsurvivor9538
@theapexsurvivor9538 4 года назад
"My point of view from, evil the Sith are." "Only the Jedi deal in absolutes" Best quotes of the prequel battle between Anakin and Darth Perior (Yoda)
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 4 года назад
Hello there
@NodDisciple1
@NodDisciple1 4 года назад
@@theapexsurvivor9538 Except he contradicts himself. By saying "ONLY the Sith deal in ABSOLUTES." He just made an absolute statement-as a JEDI!
@ovenwater4699
@ovenwater4699 4 года назад
Yes
@waterdoggo4998
@waterdoggo4998 4 года назад
"Everyone thinks they're the hero of their own story" -Handsome Jack(One of if not the best videogame villain)
@mr.cup6yearsago211
@mr.cup6yearsago211 4 года назад
Hisham Mastura god I love Handsome Jack so much. He’s pretty much living proof that a villain does not have to be sympathetic in the slightest to be enjoyable. Case in point: “This one guy in New Haven, right? He comes at me with a spoon. A SPOON! And I’m dying laughing, right? So anyway, I take that spoon and I scoop out his stupid little eyeballs with it, and his kids are all like ‘WAAAAAAAHH!’ And- haha haha, I don’t know, maybe you had to be there.”
@cryw1092
@cryw1092 4 года назад
I mean, he's alright.
@CodfishJoe
@CodfishJoe 4 года назад
He gets real tiresome, ngl. In order for me to get really attached to a villain, they have to be believable, something that Borderlands is flat out incapable of being. Funny? Often, yes. But never believable. To the extent that it kinda doesn't even try to be.
@oneringtorulethemagicarp7199
@oneringtorulethemagicarp7199 3 года назад
@@CodfishJoe the thing is, as someone who's met some absolutely mentally broken people... he's not actually that far off. I mean obviously there are certain things that are over the top, but given his traumas and lust for power his excentricism is not entirely abnormal. he hides his anxiety and anger under a figurative mask of humor, it's why once you get to the second half of the game things go so suddenly much darker. where before he kept all of his anger in jokes and quips as he still saw himself as the king of the world, but the moment you struck a blow that was personal his entire persona collapsed and the last act of the game acts as a show of jack having one continuous mental breakdown. just because a character acts in an extremely abnormal or unreasonable manner, doesn't make them unbeleivable.
@burningbronze7555
@burningbronze7555 3 года назад
I never got the hero of my story thing.
@crazyhercules9442
@crazyhercules9442 4 года назад
“You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain....”
@AZUREPHOENIX777
@AZUREPHOENIX777 4 года назад
In Dragon Ball, it's the opposite.
@KuroiShiAnimu
@KuroiShiAnimu 4 года назад
Or live long enough to see your parents get shot in a dark alley after leaving a theatre
@offgang2805
@offgang2805 4 года назад
That's why tony died. He was basically so close to being a villain, he's very Antisocial.
@yuries19
@yuries19 4 года назад
@@offgang2805 Nah, we all know Disney offed him because he was getting bored of the role
@windhelmguard5295
@windhelmguard5295 4 года назад
@@offgang2805 wasn't tony already the villain of age of ultron and civil war?
@silaenus
@silaenus 4 года назад
Best antagonist twist is the one where it was the players, all along.
@hunterkoons2008
@hunterkoons2008 4 года назад
Bad guy =/= antagonist. Antagonists oppose the protagonists, and the players are always protagonists, no matter their alignment.
@corbinbarron8772
@corbinbarron8772 4 года назад
Like if they help the enemy without knowing or release some sort of plague or villain
@silaenus
@silaenus 4 года назад
something like that, yeah
@brodieknight772
@brodieknight772 4 года назад
Yes, but only if the players are the ones who realize this. If someone else is like "it was youuuuuu all along", that's no good. You wan tth moment where one player is like "wait a minute... Are we evil? We're the bad guys right now, aren't we?". It can't be preplanned and forced upon them. It has to derive from their choices.
@silaenus
@silaenus 4 года назад
The post was meant to be a joke.
@stormyperson44
@stormyperson44 4 года назад
To quote the Joker, "All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy." "Madness, you know, is like gravity. All it takes is a little push!"
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 4 года назад
Those are cool quotes and all but as someone who has experienced the descent into madness a couple times before I’d say it’s more like falling out of a chair. In the moment you realize what’s going on it’s already to late, and you generally either end up frantically scrambling to try and avoid the outcome, potentially hurting yourself or others in the process, or you just resign yourself to your fate and hope you don’t end up looking like too much of an idiot.
@xLiTZaRx
@xLiTZaRx 4 года назад
@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 Thats what they mean with gravity, you know the thing thats pulling you down towards the ground as you lose your balance while on the chair. Sometimes a little push is all it takes to start falling.
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 4 года назад
Whyoming The part I take issue with is the notion that one push or one bad day is all it takes when in reality it’s a series of bad days, a series of pushes, all building on top of each other until the whole thing just collapses
@Stormthorn67
@Stormthorn67 4 года назад
Except the Jokers philosophy is wrong in the batman comics. He repeatedly fails in his attempts to drive people like Batman to be like him.
@noahholderman5725
@noahholderman5725 4 года назад
Stormthorn67 Well, as a point of order, it’s not like Batman is a traditionally sane character.
@ajb779
@ajb779 4 года назад
"You're the villain is someone else's story" is a quote I can't remember who said it, but it make me think of my actions more. But it works in this kind of setting.
@thatguy5391
@thatguy5391 4 года назад
I think handsome jack said something like that
@NintendoDude360
@NintendoDude360 3 года назад
Possibly GRRM if i am correct.
@adeverse4840
@adeverse4840 3 года назад
Megamind: "Oh, you're a villain all right. Just not a super one." Tighten: "Oh yeah? What’s the difference?" *Dramatic buildup* Megamind: "PRESENTATION!"
@Xelfist
@Xelfist 2 года назад
Tighten lmao
@uncroppedsoop
@uncroppedsoop Год назад
@@Xelfist that's how he spells it, so...
@Sharkey_SM
@Sharkey_SM Год назад
@@Xelfistin the movie Titan was already taken
@keaganferracane6536
@keaganferracane6536 6 месяцев назад
@@uncroppedsoop thats funny as hell never caught that one.
@bluevestedguy
@bluevestedguy 4 года назад
"I initially based this character on myself" "He becomes an inhuman monster" now I see why you make traps that TKO in 20 seconds
@thisrandomdude2880
@thisrandomdude2880 4 года назад
Runesmith: "Fear of the unknown" My Lovecraft nerd senses: *_I SENSE A DISTURBANCE IN THE FORCE_*
@theapexsurvivor9538
@theapexsurvivor9538 4 года назад
*wet slithering and dripping noises come from outside the nearest window*
@gatekeepingwarlock9604
@gatekeepingwarlock9604 4 года назад
*Mysterious colors, unlike any seen on Earth!*
@thisrandomdude2880
@thisrandomdude2880 4 года назад
@@gatekeepingwarlock9604 *_NON EUCLIDIAN GEOMETRY!!!_*
@parodyisparody3158
@parodyisparody3158 4 года назад
@@thisrandomdude2880 All the overly sarcastic jokes.
@seannotshawn3521
@seannotshawn3521 4 года назад
IMMIGRANTS!.....yes he really did have a fear of them
@spookysteve4326
@spookysteve4326 4 года назад
The best antagonist will point out the protagonist’s flaws.
@AlmostEthical
@AlmostEthical 9 месяцев назад
Yes, and preferably more interesting than, 'Your humanitarianism is your weakness'. Better when villains notice double standards or genuine dodginess in the hero.
@sovietsquirrel1315
@sovietsquirrel1315 9 месяцев назад
@@AlmostEthicalreminds me of Dettlaff from Witcher 3: blood and wine. When he says to Geralt: “and you, how many innocents have you cut down?”
@Tyler-zx7xn
@Tyler-zx7xn 4 года назад
“Any good man can be vengeful, if he loses his future.” Holy crap man
@CelestialPheonixKing
@CelestialPheonixKing 2 месяца назад
Describes the big bad for my book PERFECTLY
@MrKrossix
@MrKrossix 4 года назад
''Good is a point of view, Anakin...'' *Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?*
@TheNSJaws
@TheNSJaws 4 года назад
I was looking for this comment!
@RoyalFusilier
@RoyalFusilier 4 года назад
I think it's important to remember that "Good is a point of view" was said, specifically, by EMPEROR PALPATINE. Because that particular "What is truth?" approach tends to be the most handy, and most powerful, shield for the bits of actual blatant evil in the world.
@NodDisciple1
@NodDisciple1 4 года назад
@@RoyalFusilier Yes...the classic justification for evil deeds under "the greater good" or "the ends justify the means." One of the reasons our society rots in the present time is due to the degradation of truth.
@ionavram4002
@ionavram4002 4 года назад
"there is no such thing as an evil person" griefers
@adronius147
@adronius147 4 года назад
Genuine evil.
@throg4657
@throg4657 4 года назад
Team avolition
@kimarous
@kimarous 4 года назад
Even then, the same line of logic applies - what drove the action in the first place? Under what circumstances does one find joy in ruining the joy of others? Is it a misplaced act of retribution, lashing out against the world for a slight none of the victims will know about?
@adronius147
@adronius147 4 года назад
@@kimarous Personal satisfaction in most cases, which I would argue qualifies as legitimate malevolence. There are people who inflict suffering on others for no better reason than getting a kick out of it.
@x900fulanito4
@x900fulanito4 4 года назад
@@adronius147 I do art...maybe not the most apealing or mainstream art..but if you do something that you love you need to reach perfection in it..and I love my art. -a griefer
@fanisalefragis313
@fanisalefragis313 4 года назад
Why is Jhin in the thumbnail? He is just a starving artist damnit.
@VainGuardian
@VainGuardian 4 года назад
He's a serial killer
@aSleepyPenguin
@aSleepyPenguin 4 года назад
@@VainGuardian The way he kills is his art!
@buttonsmasher1072
@buttonsmasher1072 4 года назад
@@aSleepyPenguin still a villain
@toxicandsalty1696
@toxicandsalty1696 4 года назад
@@buttonsmasher1072 You poor uncultured peasant. Jhin is a artist beyond his time. He puts on a killer performance that's to die for.
@buttonsmasher1072
@buttonsmasher1072 4 года назад
@@toxicandsalty1696 Yes, very very extraordinary yadda yadda, but he is still the villain. He kills for his own selfish pleasure, without considering how the victims would feel about it
@the7observer
@the7observer 4 года назад
Society sometimes creates it's own monsters and unsurprisingly is often surprised when one appears
@eduardobetancourt6677
@eduardobetancourt6677 4 года назад
11:20 Runesmith: All it takes Me: Is one bad day! Runesmith: Is a little tribulation Me: Oh...
@Revenant-oq9ts
@Revenant-oq9ts 4 года назад
Me: is a little push.
@Duriiam
@Duriiam 4 года назад
Ah yes, I remember my favourite brightly lit campaign of Strahd.
@andievaldez6476
@andievaldez6476 4 года назад
Duriiam So happy and fun and not at all sad and disturbing!
@Duriiam
@Duriiam 4 года назад
Andie Valdez yes, DMing that made me see the good in everything :)))
@Missharleenquinzel
@Missharleenquinzel 4 года назад
Mine wasnt even scary or dark. Because the people I played with fucked everything up. Barely got the story
@andievaldez6476
@andievaldez6476 4 года назад
Duriiam If you really want to see the good in the world, play Out of the Abyss. Super NOT grimdark
@SaiyanPanda96
@SaiyanPanda96 4 года назад
😂 I died
@spicyman6006
@spicyman6006 3 года назад
This guy: "No one is truly evil." The Lich from Adventure Time: "I'm gonna stop you right there."
@sir6379
@sir6379 3 года назад
He is the inevitable
@PayGorn
@PayGorn 3 года назад
Majin Buu: *Oh hello there!*
@SecularMentat
@SecularMentat 3 года назад
Only cartoonishly badly written villains are evil.
@spicyman6006
@spicyman6006 3 года назад
@@SecularMentat debatable.
@sugarpapaelmo2004
@sugarpapaelmo2004 3 года назад
@@SecularMentat I don’t know man, professor venomous is a pretty good villain
@austinbostrom5304
@austinbostrom5304 3 года назад
There are no heroes. There are no villains. There is only what I want and how I’ll get it -Magneeto
@ThePortableTornado
@ThePortableTornado 4 года назад
Because madness, as you know, is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push!
@thatrobedude1023
@thatrobedude1023 4 года назад
All it takes is one bad day
@thewishingpig
@thewishingpig 4 года назад
Wii arr aliving in a socity
@yag0d
@yag0d 4 года назад
I thought that the point of The Dark Knight was to prove that the Joker is wrong
@Blub31
@Blub31 4 года назад
@@yag0d it was. It isn't wrong to think that people can be driven to do bad things through hard times, but that doesn't make it an absolute. Also I'm pretty sure he was just quoting the comic.
@ThePortableTornado
@ThePortableTornado 4 года назад
@@Blub31 yea just quoting a memorable line that fit with the video.
@mrbateman360
@mrbateman360 4 года назад
Swiper the fox is actually one of the most scariest yet relatable anime villain. Like Loki he is constantly switching sides in most episodes he is the villain however there are episodes where he is not. For me at least I think Swiper the fox does not actually want to steal. If you say to a criminal "criminal stop stealing" he obviously does not listen but I think whenever Swiper heres the phrase he is wondering to himself whether stealing is the right thing to do so there are time where he steals and times where he does not. For me I think during his childhood he suffered racist insults because he is the only character that does not speak spanish and in spain foxes are more dark. He was forced to go to the woods and became a stealer when his parents died because we never see another fox in the episode. He is always wondering in what side he has to choose. If he knew the right decision to do he would have been a good guy.
@Kidomaru222
@Kidomaru222 3 года назад
#SwiperTheFoxDidNothingWrong
@Speed001
@Speed001 3 года назад
@@Kidomaru222 Explanations are not excuses.
@azmiraclegirl441
@azmiraclegirl441 3 года назад
Damn. Right in the feels
@taylorslade8080
@taylorslade8080 3 года назад
Bruh
@Potatoes-rw1wv
@Potatoes-rw1wv 3 года назад
Why is this actually a good backstory..? Lol
@gameitderp3415
@gameitderp3415 4 года назад
"You either die as a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent (The Dark Knight)
@aso1777
@aso1777 4 года назад
"All it takes is a little tribulation" A fancy word of saying "All it takes is a little push"
@jakestavinsky3480
@jakestavinsky3480 4 года назад
Wall of text time! Charismatic villians are almost always better than non ones. Handsome Jack, GlaDos, etc. Make them understandable. Ask why are they doing what are they doing? If you really know what makes your players (and their characters) tick and what pisses them off, use that. Abuse the fuck out of their pet peeves. One of my friends hate open-mouth chewing with a passion and guess what one of my minor villians do? One of my favorite antagonists wasnt even evil. It was just a friendly NPC that was bumbling and hurt the party with his incompetence. Having meaningful connections with the party really help. Have them buy from the same stores, spread some false rumors against the party. Even if it doesnt effect anything, people hate false rumors. If you want a "twist" villian, give foreshadowing. The worse you can do with twist villians is have it feel like it comes out of left field. Twist villians should always give you the thought of "Why didnt I see this coming? All this makes sense now! Thats why x happened!" Not "What? But why are you a villian? That makes no sense.." Remember with NPCs and Villians you dont have to follow PC rules. Have your Sorc BBEG have 30 known spells. The villian should feel more powerful than the heros. Just dont pull some bullshit deus ex machina.
@scads2155
@scads2155 4 года назад
Don't forget what made Jack an even better villain. His own family working against him and then we pull the trigger that kills them. A father who could do nothing as his daughter died + said daughter being the key to the civilization he imagined. Jack was good before the pre-sequel, but it added even more depth to his character.
@jakestavinsky3480
@jakestavinsky3480 4 года назад
@@scads2155 i honestly feel presequel hurt Jacks character. We already loved and sympathized with Jack before Bunker. Presequel just opened a ton of plotholes and inconsistences. Dont get me wrong, theres some good lines, it just feels watered down, i guess?
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352 4 года назад
The thing with Jack particularly though is that he was never a good person, even before his "fall". He feared his own daughter and chose to confine her rather then deal with the turma of the girl who accidentally killed her own mother, he was always ambitious and wanted to rule, but he had to grovel to reach that point and the audio logs told a story that as a man he was constantly waiting for the day to sit in the cockpit. Jack is a delicious showing of a narcissistic arsehole who genuinely believes himself to be the hero of his own story and either willingfully/unwillingly ignorant of his own flaws, rejecting any perception that he might be wrong to substitute his own self indulgent reality. The mask represents his inability to confront his own hideous nature. That what makes him a great, straight up villain. You get pangs of sympathy from him but really he's a straight up narcissist who doesn't really care what happens to anyone else as long as he is the one enacting it. He will cry poveity and attempt to make you feel bad about any blunder, while woefully dismissing any malhandling of his own. Angel is the perfect example, he made her an existence a living hell where death was preferable, but in his mind he was providing her "everything" she would ever need in life, and only got personally slighted when the heroes killed her, because it was someone else enacting a change in his perfectly structured reality where he perceived himself as a great father. Probably couldn't even admit to himself that he was terrified of her, because he only entered the room after the vault hunters killed her yet he took a great amount of personal glee torturing Leith.
@kylestanley7843
@kylestanley7843 4 года назад
@@lordbiscuitthetossable5352 what series are y'all referring to? Sounds juicy.
@rolfmeurink5373
@rolfmeurink5373 4 года назад
@@kylestanley7843 Borderlands, a videogame.
@AceTaxiaGaming
@AceTaxiaGaming 4 года назад
Doc Oc from Marvels Spiderman is a brilliant example of Tribulation creating a villain
@Nechrostriker4
@Nechrostriker4 3 года назад
Especially the PS4 game!
@havelthejock3761
@havelthejock3761 3 года назад
You can have a good villain without them being sympathetic
@thediamonddream3233
@thediamonddream3233 Год назад
Of course, but this seems more like a guide for realistic villains. People are never born bad in reality, so some sort of bad thing/tragedy will occur to make them the way they are, and that makes them sympathetic. Comically evil villains who are essentially born evil or have unrealistic reasons for becoming insanely evil aren’t that realistic and aren’t sympathetic.
@gaopinghu7332
@gaopinghu7332 10 месяцев назад
​@@thediamonddream3233 some are definitely much more inclined to do evil from birth than others.
@comet.x
@comet.x 5 месяцев назад
​@thediamonddream3233 uuuhhhhh. look man i'm sorry to say this, but there are more mental problems that you can be born with than adhd or autism. like psychopathy
@placeholdername2222
@placeholdername2222 3 года назад
"If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” - Alexander Solzhenitsyn
@baconpantsable
@baconpantsable 4 года назад
Step 1 of not becoming famous: Not publishing your screenplay
@tarvoc746
@tarvoc746 4 года назад
This, tbh.
@josh___something
@josh___something 4 года назад
Ideas /= execution. The idea of this screenplay is probably the best gift given. Because we get to imagine the best version of it, and not be hung up on nitpicks that everyone will individually have.
@Biodeamon
@Biodeamon 4 года назад
technically everything can be "solved" if you stab enough people and lets not sugarcoat things, some people just are assholes, but it takes particular strength of character to be a hero and sometimes there are just two "good guys" who will never agree
@thassalantekreskel5742
@thassalantekreskel5742 4 года назад
Looking at comics, some of the best conflicts arose from two heroes, or two teams, that misunderstood the situation and each thought the other was a villain.
@Slann88
@Slann88 4 года назад
Agreed there IS such a thing as bad, piece of shit people.
@josh___something
@josh___something 4 года назад
I mean, yeah, disney villains. But irl, there's probably a root cause to why they're such a dick. Maybe their rolemodel was an asshole? Maybe they've been abused? Maybe it's our best friend to excuse any heinous act without the need to explain it, "Mental illness"! (Even if doing this ultimately destroys the perception of anyone suffering from this, turning their plight into a boogeyman.)
@sarahmellinger8125
@sarahmellinger8125 3 года назад
Person stabbing people stab them
@LuisBrito-ly1ko
@LuisBrito-ly1ko 3 года назад
“The only truth I’ve found is that the world is a giant tinderbox: all it takes is someone to light the match.” - Cpt. Price
@SylvEdu
@SylvEdu 4 года назад
I think you are missing a key archetype of villain, though: the sadist. They may be uncommon and not compelling when badly written, but we cannot forget about the villain who delights in the villainy. The person who is malicious and insidious because he enjoys the suffering of others or because he just wants to see what he can get away with.
@sir6379
@sir6379 3 года назад
Like that one villain from that one adault swim show, I forgot his name but he i color red and has a skull for a head
@logandunlap9156
@logandunlap9156 3 года назад
Frieza is one of those sadistic villains, but he’s also villainous by the standard of the video. His motivator for genociding the saiyans was fear, he didn’t want to find out if the legend of the super saiyan was true or not, so he just blew their whole planet up. Thus, Vegeta hates Frieza for stealing his throne and home world from him and Goku wants to beat the shit out of Frieza because he’s evil, strong, and is a direct competitor for the namekian dragon balls. Everything following Frieza’s genocides are just him causing people pain for the sake of causing them pain, because he’s amused by their pain, which isn’t exactly good writing, but it’s entertaining to watch at least. He’s having such a good time that you can’t help but also have a good time.
@pupp3tStudios
@pupp3tStudios 3 года назад
@person person It seems like the blob's motivation, as per this video, would be fear. Fear of losing said calling, so it stays a villain if only to hold onto the purpose of has found. Or it could be pride, a great hubris in its power to destroy so easily. What LOOKS like a "no rhyme or reason" action is just lack of communication, since blobs dont generally talk.
@Mothman_In_a_T-Pose
@Mothman_In_a_T-Pose 3 года назад
Exactly. One of the villains in a story I’m working on has only the illusion of justification-revenge. The thing is, the revenge is for a hurt that wasn’t even exactly real. The villain slightly recognizes this, but continues on his murder rampage as he narrows in on his real target. He revels in being a villain. He enjoys the lack of restriction and expectations. He relishes the harm he causes and savors every bad deed. He thrives in his world of madness. His motivation, quite simply, is to do the most harm as possible and enjoy every second of it.
@Mothman_In_a_T-Pose
@Mothman_In_a_T-Pose 3 года назад
@person person Haha, kind of, but also no. He’s not seeking anything like glory or a better storyline. He just wants to kill his half-sister because their shared father dared to have a happy life without him even though he didn’t know Villain even existed. He’s a petty bastard who likes chaos, basically.
@cosmoreverb3977
@cosmoreverb3977 4 года назад
As the video title says, this explains how to design a good antagonist, and it explains it well, but sometimes a good Disney-style villain (if we're talking about D&D) can be great! Someone who's unabashedly evil, who knows they're doing bad things, and loves being cruel and eee-vil, is super memorable. It's why I could name a ton of Disney villains and what they're doing without issue, because of how much they enjoy being evil. While it isn't nuanced, and it certainly isn't fashionable in this day and age, it is both tons of fun as a DM and for the players to deal with. And then the players can feel good about defeating them! Ripping the rug out from underneath the players by having them realize they could've been the villains doesn't feel as satisfying. But keep in mind, this depends on the campaign. If you're running a gritty game, a Disney villain will be super out of place. I just think that people are much too averse to, and are given advice to not have, a villain who relishes their evil deeds.
@fafdsfr
@fafdsfr 4 года назад
You know, there really is something interesting about characters that identify as evil. They've seen what good is and decided that they want nothing of it, they'd rather be the bad guy than stick with what society decides is 'good'.
@mr.cup6yearsago211
@mr.cup6yearsago211 4 года назад
To an extent, this also applies to Count Bleck from Super Paper Mario. Tbh I may be remembering his motivations in a slightly skewed manner, but if memory serves, he knows full well that he isn’t doing what’s right. He just doesn’t care, because he doesn’t see why anything matters anyway.
@josh___something
@josh___something 4 года назад
Disney villains are the best plot points. They're not so much a character, but a natural disaster your PCs get to punch in the dick. Honestly, while complex villains are great, and even AMAZING when executed correctly; having a well done "disney villain" has much more of an emotional high. (See: ozai from TLAB)
@emberfreespirit8507
@emberfreespirit8507 3 года назад
You mean a Pure Evil villain? I know Red did a dissection of those on Trope Talks.
@KrymsonScale
@KrymsonScale 3 года назад
@@mr.cup6yearsago211 You just explained why evil for evils sake can make a good villain.
@qrangejuice8225
@qrangejuice8225 4 года назад
"When we examined our logs, we found the difference between the Geth that rejected the Reapers and the Heretics was a single algorithm resulting to 3.00450121 instead of 3.00450122." - Geth Infiltration Platform Legion
@qrangejuice8225
@qrangejuice8225 4 года назад
@Noblesse Obligee ME 2 just before his loyalty mission
@Nazo-kage
@Nazo-kage 3 года назад
I have a few ideas for villains. Here’s one: Someone who was conceived, born, and empowered by several people willingly sacrificing themselves in the hopes that he would be the instrument of a dark God. However Fortune allowed him to be raised normally, and despite instinctively being aware of what the intended purpose for him was he does not wish for such things. So he grows up, becomes a loving husband, a loving father, a well respected member of his town, and a well liked Teacher. But tragedy stikes when a small group of adventurers went to a nearby mountain to slay a dragon. Not because it was a danger to the area around it, but because it was a gold dragon. And they felt that if a normal dragon had a huge pile of gold then a gold dragon would not only have even more, but they’re very body must be made of gold. So in their greed they attacked it only succeeding and angering it and wounding the party. Unfortunately they manage to escape causing the dragon to chase after them, and they decide to go to the nearby town for shelter bringing the dragon along with them. In the span of a single day everything the man held a dear was taken from him by rampaging dragon. And it was after the smoke has cleared and waiting through the bodies of all of his friends that he discovered the truth from the wounded and weak adventurers. With two of them passed out (cleric ranger) and the other twoto stupid or greedy take care (barbarian, rogue) about all the lives lost. Is the moment when he finally snaps. And it’s because of this that this particular villain has a deep hatred of adventurers.
@ouroboros2727
@ouroboros2727 10 месяцев назад
Plus they messed with the dragon. All hail the reptilians!
@grantsamson2384
@grantsamson2384 4 года назад
You're missing the most important type of villain motivation: "Boy I sure love blowing stuff up :D"
@FictionRaider007
@FictionRaider007 4 года назад
The best way to make villains is to think of protagonists and heroes from other stories or even past games you've played and enjoyed. Most heroes have noble ideals and motives that are shadowed by tragic circumstances. You may have to twist a few things that made them heroic or take away friends that kept them moral, but it takes less than you'd think. Whenever the players throw me a curveball and I need a villain on the fly that will last a few sessions while I scramble to make up something new, I present them with a new memorable antagonist to take up their time. I prefer to build far more complex & original villains but when I needed to make something up on the fly, here's a few I ran with: - A dark and brooding vigilante who is actually a powerful businessman who takes out his hatred of criminals by using his vast wealth to fund a private revenge crusade to violently end them, if not killing then at least magically crippling them. (Batman - The party being framed for crimes they hadn't committed at the time) - An "archeologist" who violently murders all competitors in his way to steal relics and sacred items from the cultures they belong to so he can gain money and fame by giving them to museums (Indiana Jones - the party having gained permission from the locals to quest for the relic to save them from great evil) - A young baron who spent years in hiding after his uncle murdered his father who has been convinced by a former flame to stage a violent uprising to reclaim his title and lands. Once he achieves it, he will reinstate the old status quo, casting out people of different races and cultures that his uncle has intergrated into their lifestyle (Simba - the other races basically being the hyenas that in this instance were Orcs. Adding to the complication was the party had three Half-Orcs who'd found relative peace living in the barony for several months.) - A young woman and her companions who are blindly following the instructions of a hag, believeing that she will grant them what they most deisre - home, love, intelligence and bravery - and in the process causing mass mayhem and killing important figures that they have been tricked into thinking are evil. (Dorothy Gale)
@onedehydratedboi2217
@onedehydratedboi2217 3 года назад
This is a very underrated comment
@Tomotoya
@Tomotoya 3 года назад
Love this approach. Just brilliant!
@jandron8519
@jandron8519 4 года назад
This video came out in the perfect moment, cause I really need to start writing a villain for my first campaign. Thank you Runesmith.
@Karloss00
@Karloss00 4 года назад
"Everyone thinks they're the hero of their own story."
@sonicr1
@sonicr1 4 года назад
"Life is what you do with what's been done to you." -Spec Ops: The Line
@vadaritis
@vadaritis 4 года назад
"Your only one bad day away from becoming someone like me" -punisher to daredevil... at least, i think thats the correct quote.
@CarlosTorres-vj3vh
@CarlosTorres-vj3vh 4 года назад
I was just writing the BBEG of my campaigns so this came like sent from the Heavens. Thanks Runesmith!
@jamesgreen90
@jamesgreen90 4 года назад
Katl Numbra similar thing happened last video when I was writing about my story that greatly involves giants
@shayeslavinski9747
@shayeslavinski9747 4 года назад
Same man. My players are about a quarter through and that's when I'm introducing the villain. This was a god's send
@DiabloDelMer1
@DiabloDelMer1 4 года назад
"I'm misunderstood. Beauty can't be evil." -Best boi Khada Jhin
@itlivesinthewalls68430
@itlivesinthewalls68430 Год назад
*proceeds to kill an entire village for beauty*
@mikeylott3401
@mikeylott3401 3 года назад
Dude, I have so much respect for the fact that you used your own characters. As a screenwriter, I know how personal stories are and the fact that you used them for a study on evil gives you so many brownie points. Nicely done!
@shoto42
@shoto42 2 года назад
I’ve been writing a book and I’ve fallen in love with the antagonist I made, I don’t really like making typical dark antagonist, but instead my antagonist is up beat and acts like a kid, but when it comes to a terrifying antagonist it’s when they are in complete control of the situation that makes the protagonist do desperate things to get out of it. This is exactly how I made my antagonist and I love it, it makes for some great discussions between the characters and fights, it also makes the protagonists have doubt about themselves
@mrackz5694
@mrackz5694 7 месяцев назад
What’s his ideology’ or goal
@DianneAlexander4858
@DianneAlexander4858 3 года назад
My favorite characters are usually villains because they have cool and dark backstorys most of the time
@emideleon4135
@emideleon4135 4 года назад
Every time you said "there is no good and evil" I kept expecting you to end it with "only power and those too weak to seek it"
@ellie623
@ellie623 2 года назад
Me too! I guess Voldemort was right all along. 😂
@RPGGamer
@RPGGamer 4 года назад
Fantastic summary of making a true villain. I always try to remember that the villain is the hero of their own story, as no one really thinks they're evil, but you've broken it down in far more detail, and given me so much more to think over.
@worthasandwich
@worthasandwich 4 года назад
My favorite villains to write are individuals with either tremendous power or recourses who act like children.
@AegixDrakan
@AegixDrakan 4 года назад
Man you must LOVE the train wreck soap opera that is the real world, then. (Laughs, then cries a little inside)
@prasunkumar117
@prasunkumar117 4 года назад
So you basically like to write manchildren
@NodDisciple1
@NodDisciple1 4 года назад
@@prasunkumar117 So SJWs?
@dementedmanatee5328
@dementedmanatee5328 4 года назад
@@NodDisciple1 sjws are not "individuals with either tremendous power or resources", this would be more of a Trump-like character
@NodDisciple1
@NodDisciple1 4 года назад
@@dementedmanatee5328 George Soros? Gates? Bob Iger?
@Cribbo
@Cribbo 4 года назад
Welp, this just makes me more confident in my writing ability... Thanks Runesmith!
@Breached18
@Breached18 3 года назад
Wheatly is my favorite twist villain. He came out of nowhere, but you slowly realize it would always happen, it's even hinted right at his turn. GLADOS becomes less aggressive upon being disconnected while wheatly becomes evil. Even at the end, we learn this isn't what he wanted, he just wanted to be accepted and not be pushed down. But alas, he's lost In space
@halfofapicture
@halfofapicture 4 года назад
That sounds like an absolutely amazing story with really interesting characters and character dynamics! Looking forward to maybe eventually seeing it one day.
@xXBlueMenaceXx
@xXBlueMenaceXx 4 года назад
Missed a good time for a Dark Knight quote "All it takes is a little p u s h"
@professorpigeon6517
@professorpigeon6517 3 года назад
There’s nothing wrong with making Pure evil villain they can be fun and often more complicated than a lot of hero villains the point of the story Isn’t to be clever it’s ultimately about being entertaining and complex villains and entertaining Tropes talks has a very good video on this
@testedalexthegreat1759
@testedalexthegreat1759 3 года назад
1:41 actually, darkness literally means the absence of light, darkness has been around before light and will be around when light disappears and the universe dies, light needs darkness to have a visible effect, darkness needs light to be gone in order to continue being dark.
@jlaw131985
@jlaw131985 3 года назад
I think it is likely that light won’t ever actually disappear from the universe, except perhaps for a slight bit of time if everything becomes a sort of homogenous, though at that point time wouldn’t really have a definition. The next Big Bang would likely be right around the corner.
@OmniDan26
@OmniDan26 2 года назад
fake, gay, and cringe.
@testedalexthegreat1759
@testedalexthegreat1759 2 года назад
@@OmniDan26 Says the gay Comic book adaptation bandwagoner.
@shapooopiefour7173
@shapooopiefour7173 4 года назад
“I’m sorry little one” “I will watch the sun rise over a grateful universe” “They would simply cease to exist” Thanos! (Probably misquoted) Edit: this refers to 9:00
@Kingpin1880
@Kingpin1880 4 года назад
"Anyone can become a villain, all it takes is a little tribulation." Wasn't that Joker's thesis in The Killing Joke?
@chromaticorb
@chromaticorb 4 года назад
I'm literally starting my first campaign this Sunday, so glad this video just came out. I've been binging your videos recently too!
@akuma9452
@akuma9452 4 года назад
Hey nice meta (red vs blue) icon
@inbako9855
@inbako9855 4 года назад
Hey, my first DnD campaign is also this sunday, though I'm a player rather than a dm.
@chromaticorb
@chromaticorb 4 года назад
@@akuma9452 Thanks! That may be the first time anyone's recognized it
@DramakilzU
@DramakilzU 3 года назад
That guy at the office you accidentally spilled coffee on could be the next BBG.
@luno9821
@luno9821 4 года назад
3:50 had me cracking up. "Hmmm.. How can I make my paragon character suffer so that he becomes a despicable shell of his former self?" In all seriousness, the current literature climate seems to love fallen heroes way too much for some reason. I miss my infallible paragons.
@SladePate
@SladePate 4 года назад
Thank you Runesmith, very cool!
@HandsomeRagz
@HandsomeRagz 4 года назад
I'm a simple man, I see Jhin, I like the post
@teebermoon3431
@teebermoon3431 4 года назад
Y’know I once made a story about a hero vs villain setup with a twist. When a skilled diplomat joined the “villains” side, he finds that all the villain wanted was to become the mayor of the town in which the story was set. Of course, things weren’t that simple. Due to neglectful parents and, in his later years, being framed as the villain made his methods harmful to others without him knowing/understanding. But the diplomat gives him the wake up call he needed, so he changes his ways and people start liking him. However, the “hero” doesn’t understand this, as he has only ever seen the world as good vs evil, so when the “villain” changes his ways they still as usual attack him and his followers, which is now most of the town. This causes his reputation to go down the drain. He ends up getting arrested for assault, murder and attempted murder, as people don’t see him as a hero anymore, so they don’t justify his actions. Anyway, I’ve been typing this for about 15 minutes now so I’m gonna stop.
@anthonylanh4848
@anthonylanh4848 3 года назад
I love that whenever I try to learn about how to make characters/campaigns/etc i end up watching long philosophical commentaries. D&D really strikes at the heart and soul of its DMs and players
@colekanter5808
@colekanter5808 4 года назад
Soooo? Can we see that screen play? Because it sounds awesome. Like Umbrella Academy awesome. please?
@akuma9452
@akuma9452 4 года назад
Sweet
@litewavegames3967
@litewavegames3967 4 года назад
I don't know much about that... Show? So when I saw this comment, my first thought was "Which Resident Evil game was that again?"
@jdawg9722
@jdawg9722 3 года назад
me and my homies love the umbrella academy
@Ibanezer21
@Ibanezer21 4 года назад
Best video yet, incredible job, Runesmith! Thanks for all your help
@bradenmiller8127
@bradenmiller8127 4 года назад
I got so invested in that story. You are an incredible writer and you inspire me to write stories of my own, stories that constantly float in my mind. You are incredible and I wish I could write a story that could hook someone in 5 minutes like you.
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 4 года назад
So... Write a hero. And let them fail.
@santinomangold3688
@santinomangold3688 4 года назад
wow, you really outdid yourself this vid, love the jump youre making from dnd to writing in general
@freakymoejoe2
@freakymoejoe2 4 года назад
This only really covers the tragic villain trope, which is a good one for sure but not the only one. The joker is a good example of a villain that isn't tragic. There are just genuinely bad people both in the real world and in fiction; sometimes a person is just made incompatible with all norms of morality an decency that can be assosciated with good. Other examples could include psychopaths; people born without the capacity to do true good, essentially, and sadists; people for whom the act of doing evil is both the method and the whole point of what they do.
@kylestanley7843
@kylestanley7843 4 года назад
Trutru. In DnD terms I've always enjoyed the thought of a high functioning psychopath vampire, hiding itself in a city as a higher-up and using the city in the subtlest ways possible. Not like strahd, oh no, strahd was like the mofockin slenderman but with feels. This boi would actively avoid conflict, and he would be a genuinely bad person who submitted to the vision that he is what he is: a predator.
@OlDirtySam
@OlDirtySam 4 года назад
For the joker example i would recommend ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TyyE8c27-9Y.html
@rmcneil1340
@rmcneil1340 Год назад
Yes there is absolute evil. Some actions can only come from evil imagination and mind completely warped beyond any logical understanding. Actually the Joker is a tragic villain. His mother said he didn't smile enough so she cut the side of his lip. Or was that just the movie version? Thank you for pointing out how this works for tragic villains. My antagonist is the way she because she is a bitch. There is an understanding though behind her behavior. Where she lives toxic behavior is acceptable. Maybe she is kind of tragic in her own way.
@trentglasgow7114
@trentglasgow7114 4 года назад
This is just a good way to write a character in general
@kuroganexy4342
@kuroganexy4342 4 года назад
A villain is a corrupted hero. That is actually amazing, I never thought about that. Thank you for this video!
@nathanielsteward2221
@nathanielsteward2221 4 года назад
“How to write a good antagonist.” Wat? So they can get one shot by my party? And have all their motivations and character building ignored? Nope.
@hunterkoons2008
@hunterkoons2008 4 года назад
Well maybe you could introduce them before your players are strong enough to kill them, or before they are revealed to be opposed to the players. Just an idea.
@Fantafaust
@Fantafaust 4 года назад
Perhaps all that background has already occurred, and your players are learning about the antagonist as they investigate his actions.
@greenEntertainer.
@greenEntertainer. 4 года назад
You could make them undying, so no matter how hard the player hurt them, they wont truly die until X happens. Maybe the villain is a lich, and the players have to gain access to its personal pocket dimension in order to destroy its phylactery. Or maybe the villain has access to clones, so when one dies, the next arrives stronger and smarter than the last, having learned the party's tactics and prepared to counter their ever move. Hell, just get rid of the villain's HP entirely, let the players deal with something that just can't die, such as a force of nature like an earthquake or meteor storm.
@ionavram4002
@ionavram4002 4 года назад
Everytime the villain is about to die give em some bullshit way to escape that was their plan all along
@Fantafaust
@Fantafaust 4 года назад
@@greenEntertainer. that feels kinda cheap though
@maytronix7201
@maytronix7201 4 года назад
Dude...your videos are simply the best. Always entertained. Good job
@DeepMoon45
@DeepMoon45 4 года назад
Genuinely one of the best and most informative videos I've seen on RU-vid. I love Villains and especially writing them. This has truly helped greatly and given me a lot of insight into how to do it effectively, thank you!
@andreialin3195
@andreialin3195 4 года назад
"If no one appreciates my work, and they all live to mock me, why should I even consider them?" Well, seems like I'm already a "villain" then!
@Jack-te8om
@Jack-te8om 4 года назад
This has to be one of the most intriguing videos you’ve ever made!¡!
@ascapedgoat8462
@ascapedgoat8462 4 года назад
“Madness is a lot like gravity: It just takes a little push...” - Joker
@Atroposian
@Atroposian 4 года назад
One of your best videos yet.
@krok_zilla6448
@krok_zilla6448 3 года назад
Honestly the example plot sounds like a great idea for a potential superhero movie (with a few modifications).
@mediamonger6514
@mediamonger6514 4 года назад
The moment you made your villain have schizophrenia, you lost me.
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 4 года назад
MediaMonger Yeah casually giving your characters mental illnesses or disorders in order to make them more spooky or edgy is just degrading and dehumanizing.
@zavierlee695
@zavierlee695 4 года назад
When sociopathy got added on after that I clicked off
@rowanhollingsworth5231
@rowanhollingsworth5231 4 года назад
It wasn't even a realistic trigger for schizophrenia, the behavior was nothing like it either.
@johnstarinieri7360
@johnstarinieri7360 4 года назад
I lowkey became attatched to your character examples, I want to find out what happens to them!
@kylestanley7843
@kylestanley7843 4 года назад
Ifkr? This should be a book ;-;
@josh___something
@josh___something 4 года назад
Because of bias, I wanna see what happens after Allan achieves his goal. A man who lost everything, getting what he asked for... what happens after the dagger has been stained? What are his thoughts immediately after the euphoria of killing the man who destroyed you? What happens in the minutes after the deed was done? Honestly, the most cliche option is for him to end it there as well.
@error404idnotfound3
@error404idnotfound3 3 года назад
@Josh_Le_Gamer Allan kills Winston just before Winston can fund the last stage of the project. Winston dies before he can help the world achieve true greatness, his ultimate fear. James’s project is now underfunded at just the wrong time and the stress at this causes James to finally break, showing his weakness to the public and proving all who doubted him right. Allan has now gotten his revenge, and his life marches on without purpose or meaning. My dark ending to all of this.
@grimasialander7183
@grimasialander7183 4 года назад
"Good and Evil is just perspective" In short, adhere to the Watchman style nihilistic story writing...
@timeforamazingchest5271
@timeforamazingchest5271 4 года назад
Good and evil come in shades, but to dismiss any objectivity in the matter is delusional.
@PastryPuff9339
@PastryPuff9339 3 года назад
This really reminds me of one of the main villains from my favorite book series. From his point of view, he just woke up after almost 2000 years and comes to help his people back to glory and fight against the people who put them into so much pain. In reality, he was the thing that right before he disappeared for 2000 years, scared his people into hiding and pain with his powers. The people who put them into that pain? That was a simple war that went away soon after he left. The people were actually starting to get along again. I love when you look at the villains POV and see a hero’s story.
@sigurdgram
@sigurdgram 4 года назад
here's the thing, evil IS an absolute in dnd. there's a plane made entirely out of it. there are gods who are built out of nothing but the universal aspect of evil. asmodeus doesn't have the ability to see himself as the hero. asmodeus is undeniably evil and doesn't have the agency of mortals to be able to change himself or how he behaves. evil is a real tangible concept in dnd that things are literally made out of. that said, all of this is why I find generic demon lords to be boring antagonists. because they never had the choice, they never had an option, they're just playing out the role given to them.
@kylestanley7843
@kylestanley7843 4 года назад
This is all a very good point, but even some DnD villains have compelling, human(ish) stories. See Strahd. That being said, I like demon lords simply because of how metal they are lol. Throw some HOTS music in the background and have a jolly good scrap! Lol
@cetitanenthusiast776
@cetitanenthusiast776 4 года назад
That sounds like a setup for a good villain. A being who is born of evil but realizes that it was the universe itself that made him/her evil and their villainous acts are all in the name of rewriting the natural order cause they don't bow down to anyone, not even abstract concepts.
@sigurdgram
@sigurdgram 4 года назад
@@kylestanley7843 oh, I'm aware it's entirely possible to have compelling stories of the road to hell being paved with good intentions. I'm just saying...well, he starts off with "I don't believe evil is an alignment or a concept" and that works in real life, but not in the cosmology of dnd
@sethgonzalez5076
@sethgonzalez5076 4 года назад
I love how you pick jhin for the screenshot
@Kuro3k
@Kuro3k 4 года назад
I'm overwhelmed that this applies to basically any story that one wants to create. Nicely done, sir.
@Beatrix7979
@Beatrix7979 3 года назад
In about 12 minutes you had me loving the story of these characters. If you wrote a book or dnd campaign around this concept, I'd definitely buy/read that. I came here looking for help with my dnd campaign without realizing that my character is already following in the footsteps of Allen and is set on revenge. I now know how to better map out my character so thank you.
@uglyweirdo1389
@uglyweirdo1389 4 года назад
Very little of your wonderful comedy. This was amazing.
@Ashley-of6ro
@Ashley-of6ro 4 года назад
I havent watched the video yet but this is exciting. A large portion of my over arching plot is oriented around villains, all with very distinct goals and personalities. They mold the world as much as the players (In a way, theyre my DM NPC but without actually making it less fun for the players since its all in the background).
@Spazzm117
@Spazzm117 4 года назад
"You're one bad day away from being me" - The Punisher
@ScrapHavilon
@ScrapHavilon Год назад
This is one of the most useful writing videos I've ever seen. Thank you.
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