How To Write Complex Characters: Overview Of The Enneagram - Jeff Kitchen

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@filmcourage Год назад

Here is a writing exercise video where Jeff Kitchen shows how he uses the enneagram - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mT7dX2cjrM8.html

@padah2k386 8 месяцев назад

Thank you so much. I was looking for something like this.

@okisweirdstories 3 года назад

I consider MBTI and Enneagram personality tests to be excellent resources to lay the foundation for a character, but that's the full extent of their usefulness. People don't fit in neat boxes and any attempt to generalize personality will ultimately fall flat.

@mpmedia6735 3 года назад

in mbti, if you study the cognitive functions, you'll know that nobody fits the types to a T. People can have better developed inferior functions (and vice versa) than others producing an entirely different, possibly more unique person.

@rafaeterna1081 3 года назад

i find mbti help me indentify which trait that let me maximize my work and creative performance as well as which trait can and or should be changed at particular situations. its helpful when you realize that some trait might have underlying personal value

@rafaeterna1081 3 года назад

@@mpmedia6735 i am a t, in real life you'll probaysee me as a cold emotionally distant freak with stroke of toxic positivity and very low emotional intelligence ( although emotional intelligence doesn't exist lol) but yeah, i suppose we all T's cant fully be T since we're all honestly full of emotion, but some supress it better than others and it has work it's functions in my experience although not without drawbacks ( eg, supressing anxiety in stage but babbling like a smartass without actually knowing the facts)

@mpmedia6735 3 года назад

@@rafaeterna1081 here's the issue. You're probably going off of 16 personalities or mbti at face value and haven't bothered to look into cognitive functions. Everyone has a thinking and feeling function; however, either function will be superior or inferior in terms of the order of the their function stack. Thinker types will have an emotional function - but that function will always be something they aren't as good with and will have to develop (same goes with a feeler but in reverse). Thinker types aren't robots. They are very much so humans and experience the entire emotional spectrum - it's just that when it comes to decision making they will prioritize logic over feelings (in particular other people's and sometimes theirs).

@rafaeterna1081 3 года назад

@@mpmedia6735 holdup, aren't mbti is the cognitive functions ? i kean there's probably major and minor functions although expert knowledge seems required to really understand that, i suppose i use it to see how people *solve* problems. fyi i use to to suit other people's work style on a group project

@Zaradorian 3 года назад

Dude, I want to look up this book just to make epic dnd characters

@kemojoaquin 3 года назад

Yes

@gradydavis251 3 года назад

Correct

@Dalamr 3 года назад

man of culture spotted

@elvellarambles9151 3 года назад

Me but for writing fanfic

@unholyarrowxx5038 3 года назад

Fuck yes me too lol

@geneedgerton4482 3 года назад

The Enneagram has been a godsend to my life. I highly recommend studying it (more than Myers-Briggs) to understand yourself and others much better. It’s the best tool I’ve ever encountered for understanding personalities. I use it, too, for developing my characters in stories.

@cbalan777 3 года назад

If you want to understand personality the Big Five is way better than this or the INJF type stuff.

@theoriginaltommysteward 3 года назад

@@cbalan777 I'm guessing there's no "true" way to understand personality and that you're better off choosing whichever method makes the most sense to you and your workflow.

@LinkEX 3 года назад

@@theoriginaltommysteward If your goal is to be scientific, then The Big Five really is the only somewhat solid option we have right now. As for character writing, both Myers-Briggs and The Enneagram can be great tools to inform behavior, since they provide a nice pre-defined system for contrast and interactions. They are basically used like zodiac signs and blood types (in eastern media), precisely because you are the god of your own world. So even if the systems are actually as scientifically accurate as a horoscope in real life, your "magic system" can make it as true as you like.

@LinkEX 3 года назад

While I personally found The Enneagram surprisingly useful and actually like as a philosophical system, we should keep in mind that it's about as scientifically sound as a religious book. Which is not to say its useless. Likewise, there definitely is wisdom in it. It can actually make some good predictions, and there is quite some nuance if you dig deeper. But complexity should not be mistaken for accuracy. At its core it is a very specific web of character traits derived from pre-defined categories based on a set of vices derived from religion. Even soft sciences like psychology and sociology will have a hard time to work with that.

@ActionAlligator 3 года назад

@@LinkEX Agree totally with your previous comment and Alan's, but to me, 'it can actually make some good predictions' is totally at odds with 'it's about as scientifically sound as a religious book'. The reason the big five is scientific is because it's reproducible, i.e. the same or similar results for any given person from test to test, and it can make predictions. The enneagram just can't do that (assuming it even has some system to define your personality even, I'm not familiar with it) and neither can myers briggs (again, maybe it can produce _some,_ but not enough to justify its system or validity etc.). So, given all that, I don't think it really is all that you've said it is, you know, wise, nuanced, etc. To me, most personality tests that aren't the big five are sometimes more like self-helps; they employ slightly complex and oddly satisfying systematization that can give someone a sense of uniqueness or even identity; many times it even comes with a goal and something to avoid, which to my knowledge is what psychiatrists utilize to help their patients change for the better. This can make someone _feel_ like they're suddenly realizing something about themselves and others and finding their place in society and the world, which I don't think is too controversial to conclude that's generally what brings people happiness. The big five just doesn't do that, at least to the same extent; it's much more descriptive in very simple ways and it doesn't 'assign' something to you, it places you at certain points on multiple spectrums of multiple traits that everyone possesses to some extent. Doesn't make me feel special or unique; doesn't give me a sense of placement in society; and so on. Although, maybe I'm misunderstanding here, so I'm more than happy to be educated on where I'm mistaken.

@whalleyboy123456789 3 года назад

Ok, Jeff Kitchen is a stud! I just ordered The Wisdom Of The Enneagram and I literally just matched up a whole bunch of my characters to their specific personality styles. Now when I'm writing a scene, I literally just flip to their specific personality style and use it to develop the scene and write the dialogue accoriding to their character style. This is perfect, thank you!!

@eagillum 3 года назад

If you've been writing with that level of attention to subtlety in your characters, that would make you a stud.

@robbaldwin2402 2 года назад

Which author?

@Sukaiba69 2 года назад

I get the feeling you don't know how to actually use the word literally bro

@j.goebbels2134 Год назад

Where can I read one of Jeff Kitchen's screenplays?

@dr.diabeto662 Год назад

@@Sukaiba69 if they're writing a story, it would actually be quite literal

@thelionsshare6668 3 года назад

The Enneagram is about volition, what the character's desire is, their motivating WILL. There are other personality typing systems that cover emotions (the four temperaments) and styles of thinking. The Myers-Briggs is about processing information: extrovert/introvert is the intake of information, sensor/intuitive filters out "irrelevant" information, thinking/feeling processes the information, and perception/judgment makes a decision based on that information. But yeah. The Enneagram is completely awesome.

@simongonzalez9182 Год назад

really good point. Ya more layers and different take on our human complexity.

@WackadoodleMalarkey Год назад

5w4: My Highest Honor: _I couldn't have said it better myself!_ 😸🏅

@zidesce7961 Год назад

The enneagram is not about volition - it's about your core fears and what you're avoiding in order to feel safe. It can motivate anything, one's willpower, emotions ,reasoning abilities, etc.

@velvetbees Год назад

I want to read the book Beyond Prozac and see what the author says about human distress. He says that some people, not all people, of course, but that some aren't necessarily mentally ill as much as they are experiencing human distress. The author also has a book entitled Selfhood. I want to read that too. It goes over the components of selfhood. My characters live in a space of selfhood, and I want to understand.

@aurothelarper 3 года назад

The way this man takes a brief pause to think and reflect what to say is admirable. I wonder how is the world inside his mind

@trippleprod.1980 3 года назад

He isn't reflecting hes finding his train of thought

@tulliodesantis4290 2 года назад

I think he's just trying to be very deliberate and clear with what words he chooses because it's such a complex idea. Which I agree with Augusto on

@skrubbed Год назад

i do this too, and personally it is so i can word what i'm saying properly and internally process it to see if it makes sense

@jesperburns Год назад

@@skrubbed Yup, exactly this. Highly depends on my state too. If I'm fully rested I tend to have this less. But it's mostly just the stringing together of words in my head to see where I'd end up and if that's satisfactory.

@cody_the_rat Год назад

@@jesperburns I'm so glad to not be the only one who felt this!!! I want to say it's an adhd thing, what with attention deficit and all... I could really feel it in the beginning and whenever he starts to ramble on out of nowhere, trying to wrestle a million thoughts into a coherent set of words is/can be incredibly difficult.

@robbmorris7790 3 года назад

I worked with Jeff on an epic desert survival script and we used Enneagrams to help develope the characters. It was a very effective tool that enhanced the process.

@Nkanyiso_K 3 года назад

Such a brilliant tool. The thing I love about it the most is how you can use believable characteristics to sculpt character relationships that easily generate natural conflicts

@tticusFinch Год назад

Exactly. A lot of my stories are focused heavily on inter- and intrapersonal relationships, and I get to see through naturally flowing dialog how my characters are similar and different in their basic beliefs. Like justice vs mercy, (un)justifiable violence, etc. which continue through the story as a constant secondary conflict, hopefully having readers question their own thoughts on the situations and seeing the other side of the issues.

@ccwoodlands1565 2 года назад

Enneagram’s are excellent. A therapist friend recommended it to me. It’s so rich and you can easily use it to build arcs unlike Myers-Briggs. I wished I’d discovered it much earlier.

@CookingWithJackDaniels 3 года назад

Josh Keefe is doing a series on characters in TV and film and their enneagram types! I highly recommend it

@HxH2011DRA 3 года назад

Thanks gor the recommendation!

@doubleplusdanny Год назад

Enneagrams are astrology for folks who want to sound intelligent.

@Swagpeopleclub Год назад

This is my favorite video because I’m autistic and my special interests are enneagrams and writing

@JezreelCutestory 8 дней назад

Me 2❤

@TheGroundskeeper Год назад

What this actually is, in reality, is a bad rip off of Jung’s archetypes. Behavioral science has never once been able to draw this kind of cluster map for human personality. It’s nonsense that sounds nice; like religion or a bad marvel movie. That is to say, every marvel movie.

@AndrewCheshire 3 месяца назад

Well sure. Rip-off yes, but everything is a rip-off, so maybe that's not as strong a critique as you intend. There is nothing new under the sun (oops, sorry, religion). It was probably devised to modernize and/or simplify Jung's archetypes. It's also definitely and hilariously not all-encompassing and arbitrary at best, but that's not the point. To judge this tool-slash-system, you need to look at the works authors produce using it. Does the dude in this video I've never heard of, or your favorite author, or whomever, use this tool; and do their audiences connect emotionally with the characters they create, do their characters interact with each other and their world in believable ways, are they enjoyable to experience? If so, then this is a fabulous tool, as are Jung's archetypes. If not, then you don't need to bother yourself with it. You judge a tree by its fruit (oops, sorry, religion).

@ryopoto55 Год назад

4:17 Enneagram in Thumbnail.

@ivlis3486 Год назад

Enneagram and creativity are both the best and most perfect tools for character development

@BrockLanders 3 года назад

The Big Lebowski: The Dude - type 9 Walter - type 8 Bunny Lebowski - type 7 Donny - type 6 The Nihilists - type 5 Maude Lebowski - type 4 Jackie Treehorn - type 3 Brandt the butler - type 2 Jeffrey Lebowski - type 1

@ComicPower 3 года назад

I'm a real story telling nerd that loves this stuff. I could watch this all day

@danthemovieman153 3 года назад

When I discovered Wisdom of the Enneagram and it totally changed my life. I didn't think someone or something could know more about me than me.

@nickgreen4731 3 года назад

I wouldn't use this at the start of character creation process, but I can see that it could be useful to go back and check characters one has already written against this tool, just to see if they can be refined and deepened any further. Otherwise it's a bit like writing music by starting from music theory. It may be accurate, but it's lifeless. Better to just start with a good tune and only then see how theory applies to it.

@CraWea 3 года назад

It’s pseudoscience. If it helps your writing, that’s great. But the enneagram is not at all “cutting edge psychology”. If you want a more modern personality model with scientific rigor, look at the Big 5, or other models based off of factor analysis and empirical findings.

@SkullOfTheAbyss 3 года назад

Hahahaha

@Nada_1911-d9q 3 года назад

Want to explain what you mean by "pseudoscidence"? This is about fears core fears not "cutting edge psychology" like you called it. Big 5 doesn't even look between attentional matters in people at all with no explanation you just have to be low in X or high in Y. It's subjective logic based on biases. Very empirical.

@rigavitch 3 года назад

@@SkullOfTheAbyss I know right?! ha ha haaaa!!!!

@LilOranges 3 года назад

You somehow knew exactly what I needed in this exact moment. Thank you guys so much!

@blueskye2790 3 года назад

It's interesting, but so confining. The fact that he said his character could fit most of the categories says it all. Most people aren't one thing, so why try to box a character in. Of course, you can start with any archetype or "enneagram" types...but eventually, your character should feel too complex for any of that, because now they are more like a real person that can't be boxed in.

@Nada_1911-d9q 3 года назад

Boxing only confining those to roles in society, this has nothing to do with that.

@joydavis4087 3 года назад

I agree with Blue Skye. Enneagram is a tool, nothing more.

@rigavitch 3 года назад

I used to think so but then the more I observed, studied and put it into practice I discovered it was very expansive and gave me so much more empathy and insights into humans! Anyway it's just a tool - relax!!! - Stop being So ONE about it. lol

@dildem6442 3 года назад

I dont think the enneagram boxes ppl in, it fluctuates depending on your health levels (there are like 9 stages to it), your wing (having some of the traits of other types) and how you behave like when u grow or desintegrate (then we tend to act like a different types' interior Motivations/feelings). And as far as I got it it picks up on your 'possible' fears, desires etc and explains your behaviours based on these driving powers (fear/flaw, desire), you can choose if these fears, desires resonate within you...

@robertmartin2936 3 года назад

13 minutes to describe "Manic Pixie Dream Girl Trope" as if it were just discovered in the moment. Bless.

@successsystem2468 Год назад

I think he's just talking crap.

@Vitance 2 года назад

When you ask someone a direct question, and the first words out of his mouth are vapid marketing copy and buzz phrases instead of a direct answer, you've got yourself a scam artist

@eyenocynema 2 года назад

Been using the Enneagram to write characters for a while. Great method.

@eagillum 3 года назад

Oh hello fellow Enneagrammer. Wow, very nice, sophisticated explanation of a very difficult system to capture in words. Carl Jung said that's it's so hard to talk about the archetypes because they're so broad, but the enneagram makes it possible to capture the human personality in words, but only if you're well-studied in it can you articulate it's subtle concepts. Not many people do it well. When I first learned the Enneagram, I couldn't stop talking about it. Now 10 years later, I don't even know where to start, I don't even want to try, it's a lot of work, it's just so subtle, but once you see it, you can't unsee it, and if your life was hanging together by a thread, it may blow the bottom out of your life, but in a good way. It was absolutely the most important thing I have ever learned. When I was in a workshop hearing about it for the first time, I had a distinct line pop into my head: "I was born to learn this. This is what I've been waiting for for my life to begin". And it saved my life, and over the last decade has steadied it enormously. And actually it's made me bored with the "wisdom" that life has to offer. It's kind of a blessing and a curse because it spoils you-- you have seen the psychological model that captures humans in their complexity, basically meditation on steroids, so people don't surprise you anymore, but they also don't intimidate you anymore. The wisdom of the world is boring and trite, but it also doesn't lead you astray anymore. Relationships are less difficult because instead of treading water in an angry ocean, your feet are touching the ground, but it also kind of feels like you're in the kiddie pool. Kinda unsatisfying. Ok I'm not that enlightened, I'm just going through a bored phase. Still lots and lots to learn. Anyway, this was nurturing. Thanks.

@Tremuska 5 месяцев назад

I was introduced as "the thing i am about to tell you is gonna blow your mind" but as i read further you were explaining how it blew your mind. Also, your words are always contradicting each other. I don't mean it is false. Who can judge but the contrast between each word is so high that they cancel each. Are you satisfied or bored. Is it a curse or is wisdom. Which one is it. Is it meditative or aggressive like steroids. In the end that makes you telling nothing. I am writing this comment because i am annoyed but it still holds constructive criticism on your writing.

@donagh1954 3 года назад

Thomas Condon's book "The Enneagram Movie and Video Guide" is invaluable in this context.

@mechtech220 3 года назад

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@unbreakable.3132 Год назад

Nothing useful came out if this video. Thanks pro!!

@unbreakable.3132 Год назад

Wow wise words... I'm so touched😂 did you recently learn that? Lol. Ok so usually commenting is a cheap way of communicating, but since you were rude and judgmental as heck, ima proves you're wrong, with your own hands. Kiddo! List aaall the useful things you learned from this crap. You'd be surprised lmao. You see, I'm not a negative person unlike you! (since you judged aaaand kindly told someone to shut up, which isn't a sophisticated thing to do if you're aware of your words, genius) I just don't buy bs. If you're like most ppl and nod to every crap you see, well, good luck with that! Isn't none of my business if you like stupidity lmao Piece out✌️ (write your damn list before judging ppl next time)

@successsystem2468 Год назад

@@BelamarEutravos You're wrong. @Sahel is right if he expresses negativity as others who may be misled by the bs Jeff is spouting may then see the negative comment and realise that yes in fact this is just bs to further "mystify" the process. You show off and say "leave it to the pros". In my view, a professional is someone who's been paid and sold at least one successful screenplay that became a movie in this business. What have you done to be so high and mighty? Please share your "pro" credentials. I also checked Jeff Kitchen on IMDb he has ONE "Thanks" credit for some unknown film!!! Unbelievable, so this guy is a "pro"? So listen, best to get off your high horse and close your mouth.

@filmcourage 3 года назад

Have you ever used the enneagram to help you write characters? How do you like this tool?

@mariuszludwinski4511 3 года назад

It's a good starting point as MBTI or RPG character generators. You still face the challenge of writing a character that feels consistent without being predictable.

@mickaelgiunta2773 3 года назад

Always and still using it as a french screenwriter ^^

@JJasonHicks 3 года назад

My wife exposed ennegram to me years ago. Never thought to apply to my character building until I saw this. Makes perfect sense. I'm trying to use it now as I do my character pass of my rewrite. It is helping me with how characters think and how to frame their dialogue.

@Casey_Truman 3 года назад

I use MBTI, but they’re definitely similar.

@wattpadusergeek342 3 года назад

Never even heard of it before today. And I’m so glad I just did. Thank you Film Courage. This was incredibly timely 😃😊

@davidpo5517 Год назад

Personality tests are great as starting points, but that's all they will ever be. If you go through your life thinking about ppl as their personality types then you will never truly get to know who they are. We are all every personality type to some extent, and under different circumstances.

@whattheactualfk9190 3 года назад

How HELPFUL is this for new writers?!!! Bravo! 👏🏻🤙🙏

@simphiwe4930 3 года назад

Wow, I've been using Enneagram too😂 I try to type my characters after writing their character concept and fill in any gaps😋

@anthonypc1 3 года назад

"Ancient wisdom" usually becomes outdated speculation. Archetypes are for storytelling, no longer our most useful way for understanding actual unique human beings. Fine to use this or whatever for inspiring fictional character development. But do reserve some skepticism if employing pseudo-psychology systems like this one to judge and label real live people.

@jonathanmoody1534 3 года назад

Another great interview thank you film courage, and another great tool. The enneagram has allowed me to build believable characters that are consistent with their actions and reactions to the plot.

@ArchiduquesaMA Год назад

this guy explains the simplest things in the most complicated way, it's insufferable

@lamarhenderson8058 3 года назад

Enneagrams are pseudoscience so I wouldn't recommend anyone pay too much attention to them for actual psychological treatment, but as a tool for fictional character development, it sounds intriguing.

@rigavitch 3 года назад

LOLZ

@TheCalicohorse 2 года назад

In my opinion, any tool that offers an entrance into personal insight would be useful for psychological treatment. There are those who think psychology itself is psuedoscience, but I'm not one of them.

@neutroncabo 3 года назад

The Enneagram is a bomb! but the information he mentioned after...is tremendous. we learned with this man a lot,is awesome . very very useful! love it!

@0ptimuscrime 3 года назад

The enneagram is a great writing tool, but this guy is just rambling through it

@beefitsum7955 Год назад

Hey, Jesus loves you.

@travisbplank 2 года назад

It's a bit of a cosmic gumbo.

@wolflahti412 3 года назад

It's always easier to deal with people when you can assign them to arbitarily defined pigeonholes.

@basementmadetapes 3 года назад

That's so Enneagram 4 of u to say

@glumbortango7182 Год назад

One of the only things I got from getting into astrology was being able to recognize the zodiac signs when I see them (In theory of course. I don't just go on the street and know when/where people were born)

@wolflahti412 Год назад

Physical appearance depends more on the Ascendant than the Sun sign. The Ascendant is your interface with the world and is how you appear to those who don't know you well.

@gavinmartin9519 Год назад

This dude just categorized my life so far into character types

@jenniferariesta6464 3 года назад

Idk who Derek and Skyler are, but there is an Indian movie called Yeh Jawaani Hai Dewaani and the two lead characters are EXACTLY how he describes, right down to the personality clashing/meshing together. Using enneagram is such a good tip, thanks!

@DreJr 3 года назад

The combination of his voice and his affect are freaking me out for some reason.

@Rose_Harmonic 3 года назад

It's all in the wrists lol

@Bharat_motivates 3 года назад

RIGHTTT

@martincnnbs 3 года назад

Great video and great insight! Been using this for years now and I couldn't agree more. It is an excellent tool for writers in the creative process and also a way to "test" the consistency of your characters. See if the desicions they are making make sense, for example.

@velvetbees Год назад

How we percieve ourselves, and how we interact with the world creates a sense if self. That is beyond the enneagram or mbti. But it is an important tool because you have to form a baseline for your character so you can begin attributing character traits and show how he or she percieves themselves and interacts with the world around them. Their happiness or distress will be affected by those perceptions and interactions.

@brandic89 Год назад

The funny thing is, I see myself in so many of the enneagram types: I had a lot of the "helper" but was more seen as the "achiever" growing up, but then switched to full-blown "helper" when I found my calling as a young teenager, then after a traumatic experience briefly flopped over to the "enthusiast" ("So I'll just have fun since my 'dream' was just ripped away from me"), then launched into mature "achiever" again in college, segued into a super quirky "Individualist," slipped back into the "helper" after graduating and imagining I had found true love and meaningful (to both sides) connection, started a project as an outstanding "individualist" (always fighting the lazy irresponsible bent of the enthusiast after my early crash), took action during a brief, reactionary stint as the "challenger" after being betrayed as a naive "helper" by a guy and his family, then realised I was always mainly the "helper" in a perfect world. So, I guess the book character would go with the most prominent, deep-seated, original natural traits (I kept slipping back into the "helper" when I thought things were going reasonably well, if only in my silly imagination). Hmmm....

@michaelslater6839 3 года назад

For years, Psychiatry has tried to fit people into neat little boxes with well defined edges. Each year it fails, so every few years it comes up with a book more boxes. i.e. DSM-5. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. Real people don’t fit into boxes. Still with fictional characters you must start somewhere. And this is a good start.

@MrBrown-yw4oe 2 года назад

These are but facets to the character I am building in my life.

@julius-stark 3 года назад

I'm doing preproduction on my first novel and the enneagram has been a great help in understanding my main characters.

@CerxFouquet9 Год назад

lol i just took the test, went through 20mins of questions and then they're like "pay up if you wanna see your results" f*cking scammers😂 should've known better - just letting you all know DON'T TAKE THIS TEST ONLINE

@_twinklesprinkle Год назад

For realll. I just pulled up a website that explained each type and I plan on just referencing that instead of looking for a test that won't try to scam me or sell my info. X.x

@anthonypc1 3 года назад

Pseudo-science gimmick. Don't forget to search for the criticism of ideas that appeal to your intuition.

@hakonmilan4039 3 года назад

Me and my husband love typing characters in movies. Such an amazing tool for character building and also for the viewers being able to identify with the characterts struggle/growth.

@jhordyjimenez6283 Год назад

Isnt hakon a male name?

@hakonmilan4039 Год назад

@@jhordyjimenez6283 i'm gay.

@jhordyjimenez6283 Год назад

@@hakonmilan4039 my condolences.

@txwhyxbeetsx4ever381 3 года назад

Watch @ 1:50 speed for humans

@ComicPower 3 года назад

Hey Karen from Film Courage. Have you gotten started in making this indie film with Derek and Skylar a reality? It seems so intriguing from what's discussed here.

@lancasterspades6558 3 года назад

And just like that I got something new to explore! Good thing I cleaned out my book shelf.

@knownasL 2 года назад

Nothing compares to the big five.

@tumbleweed8329 2 года назад

Marvel writers should take notes on this lesson

@mikebar42 Год назад

Without taking the test I'm 1,2,4,5,6,8,9

@mikebar42 Год назад

I guess 7 also by this guy's definition.. but not an enthusiastic 7...

@hrsantiago 2 года назад

This is an awesome tool! I'm all into the whole character profiling thing for my stories.

@las174 3 года назад

We can be many of these types and go in and out of them throughout the day. Vedic astrology gives a very complex understanding of different types of motivations, trajectories and natures of characters. Real people are way more complex, but this is a good place to start.

@danrazART Год назад

This is great if writing from a character's perspective. But a good story is not limited by that. World building is the bigger piece of good story writing. And what you want to achieve through your story. But it is very handy to profile people in certain ways.

@isaacoviedo1712 Год назад

18:23 this is probably the most important thing in this video

@JArt872 3 года назад

Is this why One Piece is such a success?

@viyusavery248 3 года назад

The reason for that is more of local/cultural thing

@vegeta1885 3 года назад

No, it's because you are a weeb.

@ladylo-fi6979 Год назад

I like this idea because I strive to create characters who remind my readers of people they may have known or observed. This makes your writing more psychologically accurate and realistic. You can also take into account what a character's enneagram wing type would be to add another layer of complexity.

@Mii.. Год назад

This seems to help a lot. BTW (this may seem goofy) but do I take both the mbti and the enneagram answering the questions in the wah my character would? Or do I just slap their mbti and enneagrams down? I don't like the 2nd option. My goal here is to try and find the right personality for my character but I have trouble expressing it, so I would really like to understand here.

@michaelpaoneofficial Год назад

I love this. Been into the enneagram for quite some time. In terms of making a difference in my personal life.. ehh.. there's better tools. In terms of writing characters in fiction.. heeeeeeyyy!!

@Dwell_In_Magic_369 Год назад

SO unexpected to see this cross of topics- i never thought of it as a creative writing tool/inspiration for content- totally delightful!!! 🤯

@filmcourage Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@lingars001 Год назад

What's the best site to determine ennegram?

@miraclewalkerproductions Год назад

Fascinating. Are there any specific resources you’d recommend to get started with enneagrams?

@SplotPublishing 3 года назад

Ok, this is a waste of time. What nonsense. People are not classifiable this way.

@danielvalleduarte 2 года назад

Ugh, I'm a Peacemaker which means now I have to start working out and wearing tighty Whiteys

@archniki_ 2 года назад

Sounds boring

@AnthonyPetrone 3 года назад

Wow perfect timing. I'm taking Jeff's course right now and it's mind blowing. Hands down one of the best investments I've ever made.

@filmcourage 3 года назад

Very cool. Great to see that working for you Anthony. Thanks for posting.

@jaime8318 3 года назад

Way too intellectual for the creative process.

@markparkinson6947 3 года назад

This will definitely be in my writing toolbox at some point.

@simongonzalez9182 Год назад

it's amazing how the craft of cinema, helps us ( if we were to use it for our personal growth) see our human complexity. The process of recreating human stories cast light on us and what we are. I often entertain the thought of creating an Android with perfect empathy, strength, etc. That process helps me realize personality traits I want to develop more in myself. let me go back to writing for my pleasure. I love RU-vid so much. The comments sections are always as valuable as the video, when the video is of good value. Really good stuff here.

@chriswest8389 2 года назад

Do U agree that perhaps the ennyagram ascribes too much to nurture at the expense of nature? That is, the two childhood wounds from the trigger incident, are interpreted according to ones apriora genetic tendenceys. Two individuals, different from birth, suffer different wounds and wind up as different numbers.

@level_ken5231 2 года назад

He pretty much described me. I’m gonna do it on myself for a bit and then work it on the characters for a series I’m working on.

@ShaneCourtrille Год назад

Really enjoyed this great tour of the Enneagram!

@mikek7660 3 года назад

5 mins in and this smacks of an infomercial, HARRRD

@restrainingorder7301 Год назад

Truth HURTS huh lol now move on and keep it pushing...that's a little spiritual thing I call: Transfer of ENERGY now go play your Jay Z Guilty until proven innocent to your nearest doctors office and find out who and where you caught your turmoil from...oh right I forgot yall still together 😂 now stay STUCK over there" Namaste 🙏

@whitleypedia Год назад

Now someone overlay this with the characters from firefly !

@renegademax 2 года назад

The Enneagram? Honestly never heard of it but holy moly, such an invaluable tool. So grateful to Jeff Kitchen and Film Courage.

@ariesmarsexpress Месяц назад

So, it is important to know that people do not change radically from one type to another suddenly. Over long periods of time, some wing may get more growth than others. If you have a 5w6 with a weak 8 wing, that is a radically different person than the 5w6 with a very strong 8 wing. That change alone might be a character arc for an entire story which took place over a lifetime. What is unlikely to happen is that a 5w6 would suddenly become a type 1...at least not without serious trauma and character defects.

@mboniledawson229 3 года назад

Thank you very much for what you do, it's helped me get a handle on my writing.

@filmcourage 3 года назад

Great to hear! Keep learning and keep writing!

@simphiwe4930 2 года назад

Another cool system to look at is the Colour system found in Magic the Gathering (roughly 24 possible combos rougly with subtypes within those as well)💭. I've combined both enneagram and the colour philosophy system and it works great (I'd recommend watching "Dicetry" and "The Mana Source" for some explanation).

@filmgirl1891 Год назад

Types 2, 3, and 4 are the image types, 5, 6, and 7 are the intellectual/fear types, and 8, 9, and 1 are the anger types. I myself, am a 9 with an 8 and 1 wing.

@sheilarajan7431 2 года назад

Can I use enneagram for writing a biography book ?

@kenward1310 3 года назад

Great video. Interesting speaker, and really appreciate how he describes using the enneagram. I'm going to implement this into my own process. Thank you for covering this.

@wheelieblind Год назад

It is really a dying shame that they only show this damn picture of what he is talking about for a moment and now I am all wtf is he talking about number such and such and @#$@$@#

@dakotapeters5654 Год назад

Weird I don't see a connection from the arrows of numbers 3,6,9 those are a separate triangle the rest seem to bounce back and forth repeatedly.

@chancelewis6514 5 месяцев назад

Incredibly helpful thank you guys for the millionth time lol

@katie5737 Год назад

Hmm I’m only 2 minutes in but so far…my gut tells me to not listen to this man, he seems like he doesn’t know what he’s saying…I’m leaving this comment here so I can go back and read my first thoughts in case I get brainwashed by the end

@John-e4p1x Год назад

Im a patiend person, but... this guy really needs to talk more slowly. I think I aged two years trying to hear him get throug the first sentence.

@jenrethling5799 3 года назад

Nice, definitely gonna look at deeper to this method.

@davesmr5106 Год назад

I feel like this man is describing an idea that I know to be called a "finite state machine". They are very useful for many things, it turns out.

@hans6617 Год назад

It isn’t. This is a wicked art and I wish you people had enough sense to care about your being and your bloodlines. AGAIN thou like tiny creatures you will prove why you don’t deserve to know anything. If you can’t respect yourself absent minded smh. Anyways the ART IS CALLED “ In finte state machine” It is the practice of STATE/PHASES in ma’gkc. It’s code of geniuses. It’s a game I wish you all comprehended you are not the players. Games Room players 3 KIngs. YOU ALL ARE PICKING SIDES. Which is it? This room has games and players. This earth has lessons and teachers. Tv shows Movie Epic-Sode