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I hate what "but thats just a theory" has become, because to me, matpat never meant it as a shield for criticism, it was meant as a "hey, heres our evidence and conclusion, you see something wrong? Help us fix it", and the fact people cite it as just being like "this doesnt matter, its just a theory" makes me feel horrible

To be fair to game theory its hard to understand where the hate is coming from when people arent telling them whats wrong they are just being told that the theory was stupid.

There's one factor that a lot, and I mean, A LOT of people forget about Game Theory FNAF that you just pointed out : Tom was the MAIN WRITER FOR ALL FNAF THEORIES SINCE 2 YEARS, while MatPat mostly was just checking the text to see major errors and not just details, and voiced over. Which means that inacuracy and errors in searching and writing are HIS mistakes, not MatPat's (before anyone lash out : I love Tom, I don't blame him, I just put records straight). So if people really sent hainous comments towards MatPat for "his inacuracy" and his whacky theories, but the moment Tom becomes the new host they go "Finally, someone with good writing"... I just feel the main complains come from people who hate MatPat and will find reasons to discredite him, instead of having people actually being annoyed by poor researches and misleading informations.

As someone who believes that the books are a separate story from the games, this is a great theory and I’m glad that tales-believers enjoyed this video as well

It's interesting, because I noticed a little bit of this (missing important info or misinterpreting it) in some of Matpat's Sonic the Hedgehog theories and A LOT in the Pizza Tower theory. I can't tell if Team Theorist is/was being worked so hard that they either miss crucial information to try and complete the theory video by a deadline, or they intentionally gloss over it, believing it to be a minor detail or something else... If Tom is both writer and head of the Game Theory channel (or however that works after Matpat's retirement), then he may have the ability to spend more time by himself researching and "going insane" and looking into every little detail of FNAF there is for when a theory video is made. (Let's not forget Matpat has a family to take care of for a while now and this could've also accidentally unintentionally clouded/distracted his mind during theory-crafting.) (There might also be a little bit of "light" gaslighting involved where possibly Team Theorist believed that if they don't mention any mistakes or make the evidence sound credible enough, then the people who don't read the books/know the lore will believe them, but obviously that didn't work for the real fans who actually played/read the FNAF lore.) Not trying to throw hate, just mentioning some possible/plausible ideas for WHY Matpat's theories were a little bit flawed and caused the hate to begin with... 😓

One has to wonder, if MatPat wasn't able to do the research himself, could he have unintentionally inserted misinformation into an otherwise well-written script while making his own edits to it in order to deliver it more naturally? It's common practice to re-write something you're going to be reading AT LEAST into chunks of the original text that flow better for you to say out loud. If he was tired/hurried, even if he didn't mean to make any changes to the content, he could've simply copied it down wrong. The main change from the previous videos to this one is that Tom is now overseeing the ENTIRE process through to the end, with no one else being able to override his writing at the last minute.

To- to be fair like when he said it was purple, he didn’t mean it literally, because of the lighting effect, it’s symbolic we see Scott doing these things multiple times where he’d use similes and metaphors to make the darker meaning like, “you’re broken” “I feel you’re broken” it was meant metaphorically but after was made literally

This latest theory felt like a community win! The future is looking much brighter 😁

The one thing I realized that that theory used mostly the game details while the books were used to prove and find little details for that theory while all Security Breach theories used 90% of the time the books. Like Scott said the books can fill in small gaps or details of the lore which people still don't seem to understand. Simply by using the games you can figure out the lore much better than by using the books since the books are not canon to the games and only small details from the books actually help.

"The Fredbear bite looking ice cream was removed in Ruin." I mean... was it though? That is a completely different ending that only resembles the one in Security Breach. Saying it was removed makes it sound like that ending in Security Breach had the ice cream replaced, which I do not think is the case. It is not like the name Cassidy being replaced in Princess Quest. That Security Breach Ending shouldn't be ignored just because an ending in the DLC is referencing it. By that same logic you could say Glamrock Freddie's head was removed in Ruin and use the fact H.E.L.P.I is there instead as proof Glamrock Freddie never had a head. It just feels like a leap in logic.

I can't necessarily blame Tom for what I'd assume is inadvertently spreading misinformation when doing the research for the theories during the past 6 months or so despite misquoting the same source like saying Chica was Edwin's first animatronic in one theory when really she was his eighteenth in this most recent theory. I'll be honest, I feel like I would've made that mistake as well at least once or twice. Not to mention, people were still hesitant to consider the books as canon despite the clear signs that they were to some degree. As a result, everyone was just confused as to what was likely or unlikely to be true.

Finaly, somebody else who pointed out they removed that dam ice cream in ruin. So many ignore it, but like guys, there telling us to look somewhere, we ain't doing robo kids

Honestly people hated the theories without knowing evidence was false to begin with, I’m sorry but you are going to tell me that many people actually read these books and fact checked them and didn’t just get mad at the theory they didn’t like you are fooling yourself, your point is true but I’m not giving the hate credit like that as people have been hating on game theory for a long time now, also the same guy is still backing the theories so it doesn’t really doesn’t really disprove anything till we see otherwise

Something that surprised and impressed me is that I haven't seen anyone throwing a fit over the fact that Tom used art from LadyFizsi as evidence. Good on you, guys! You're finally growing up and realizing that just because the artist did a bad, it's art that Scott specifically licensed and copyrighted, meaning it's still valid for theorizing! Good on all of you!

This is exactly what i like about Tom's new theory. It is much more well-researched and grounded that the others. For what i know, Tom and Matt wrote the theories together, so who knows how much influence over the final result did Tom have. I think Matt doesn't read the stories himself (Although i could be wrong), he had no time to, so Tom read them, and they made a theory together regarding that book. Maybe Tom let some small details to be not-well laid out into the scripts, so when they actually came out, they came off as badly researched or flawed.

I definitely agree Tom has come a long way. But also cutting him so slack since he is dyslexic. But overall he has come along way.

It was actually quite the surprise for me looking at Tom's first fnaf video as at first it seemed like a completely different writer due to the mentioned changes

Very epic video! You better give classy her 7 scooby snacks now!

I'm happy that game theory is getting back on track. I think that if more theorists put the same amount of accuracy with other things such as the fazbear frights then lore wouldn't be such a headache.

The best part of the latest Fnaf game theory video is Tom getting Fredbear’s companion’s name right

I really liked this new presentator for Game theorists, i hope that now that he is the face and voice of the channel, he gets to put more effort into the research for their theories like how he did for the most recent chapter I wish nothing but the best for him and i hope he gets to present Game theory for a loooong while 🙏🙏🙏

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Kinda funny how we all loved matpat and now when he's gone all of a sudden he's just bad at it.

Really interesting 😲 i didn't know those old episodes were poorly researched but yeah with this newest one hopefully those mistakes won't happen again, I'll also stay tuned for more videos cause this first one got me hooked with your type of content^^

I'm guessing MatPat and his researchers didn't have strong communication between each other. That makes a lot of sense.

I think that Matpat was in a lot of pressure back then. Like, he already had a son, and at the same time, FIVE CHANNELS. Meanwhile, Tom doesn't have either a son or five channels. So, I think that retirement was good for him. But I loved the man 😢.

I honestly didn't even know the theories were getting some facts wrong. I had stopped watching these videos for a long time (the last theory I fully watched was on how to make the perfect burger lol), I was just _done_ trying to understand this series' lore. I still kind of am, but I'll try to understand things in a more casual way. Glad to see things have been looking up a bit more lately!

Under_Score video let’s get it

It's not just Fnaf, many of the theories either skipped over lore or context. One of the last videos I saw from Game Theory was Kirby is a Villain part 1. They showed videos where Kirby was watching something unfold alongside Kind Dedede and Metaknight, then proceeded to claim Kirby was the only one wrong for not taking action. If what you say is true and they're doing better fact checking, might just start watching GT again.

incredible video underscore!! keep it up please 🙏

I think that people will hate me for my fnaf theory.. I don't have much time to sit and look through everything to write my theory yet.. But I'm scared to post it seeing how many people get mad over fnaf theories.. Especially since my theory is also a meta theory..? Maybe I'll just keep things to myself..

Technically, Y’all are wrong, The only right person is Scott Cawthon! >:3

Im glad tom had a redemption arc but I did enjoy alot of the theories including gregory being a robot but I'm glad Tom has now stopped making these mistakes. I dont read the book or play the games I just like listening to fnaf theories

I feel like what was meant about chica being the first one was saying first major animatronic he made

I feel like Tom is doing a good job whole matpat is not here anymore

Also it helps that the new video was actually something new and not a retreading or puking on of more evidence to an already done theory

I actually think the it wasn’t so much Elizabeth they where connecting to blue, but baby, who did have blue eyes before being haunted by Elizabeth to get her green eyes

thats why its just a theory... a game theory

The book thing I don’t think is cannon, it opens up a nasty can of worms and contradictions but I do think some of the stories are canon, just not all. But Tom’s so far doing great!

I actually believe it wasn't Tom's fault in the past. Mat has explained how he was part of the writing process (along with other writers, not just Tom) in order to feel more comfortable reading the script. With that and the fact he probably wasn't available for his own research, there may have been inconsistencies while rewriting that the team just straight up missed. Now with Tom as the lead writer and host, there's no need for rewrites, at least no as many, so inconsistencies are more unlikely

I find that the thing i did not like about the response to the hate is that they did not get to the actual point of the criticism people had. It went against the point of the video by talking about why they're right rather than getting to the point of don't hate on people, give criticism with valid reasoning. It was a step in the wrong direction and clearly they're trying to solve the issue

"Obviously it's just a theory but at the same time YOU DONT GET THE RIGHT TO PUSH BACK AGAINST THEORY HATE while actively getting facts wrong and missing the point of where the HATE is coming from in the first place" I think this is a very dangerous mindset to have, key word "HATE". I firmly believe you should not hate anyone based on opinions alone, you can criticize sure, but dont mistake hatred for criticism, knowing how to criticize seems to be very scarce nowadays, most people prefer to opt for destructive criticism which looks like "Your theory is trash bro, you dont even do your research, how are you supposed to be the face of fnaf theory crafting" (And I even wrote it lightly for what some people be saying out there), instead how about we say something like this: "Mat, at -this time- you mentioned this/these -detail/details- and though compelling, is different from what the books say and I quote: -the quote or quotes in question-. Being honest I don't really like the Gregory is a robot thing too because that would mean -insert what it would mean, the more points the better- and from a narrative standpoint it also feels unsatisfying because -mark reasons of why it makes you feel unsatisfied-. Overall I see what you were going for but because -one or more details- are different than how you present them this theory is wrong", how was that? And I know it could seem daunting to put that much effort in a single reply but a reply is a comment and in this case criticism, you should most definitely put effort in criticising, it's a tool that can make or break somebody and should NOT be used to tear down someone because you dont like that someone's work. Now you see why the "you dont get the right to push back against theory hate" is so toxic? it really feels like "Oh yeah, let me punch you in the face for saying a joke and you cant tell the principal's office". Overall I get why people get upset, it has to do with the feeling of not being able to do anything about the fact that so many people get to see those theories and mark the suggested ideas as true, that's why you see the word "misinformation" being thrown around in the arguments against game theory, but it's not misinformation if it's presented as a theory. All I ask is for everyone to put effort in their words and be respectful, think of how nice it would be if you create a poorly drawn dragon and instead of getting "LIL BRO THINKS THATS A DRAGON, WTF IS THAT, LOL" you actually got helpful criticism like the one example I wrote earlier.

the rebuttal video felt like their pride wouldn't allow them to admit when they were wrong about something. unironically matpat leaving gametheory to a whole team who can do proper research on a topic without sweating to push out videos quicker might be good for the channel

I appreciate you not pinning the negativity on Matpat, considering that it WAS always Tom behind the camera writing the theories at the time

3:30 when watches video do not like it because people can have different opinions and perspective

I think Tom’s just a robot🤖

Is bro really angry about a guy theorizing? Calm down bro, it’s not the end of the world that’s there’s some misinformation in a series with over 10 books.

im rlly happy newer theories are getting better bcos it's been getting pretty annoying when they are getting book details wrong bcos alot of the fnaf community often seem to take their words as gospel

soooooo gregory isnt a robot?

This isn’t really tom’s first fnaf theory it’s just the first that he’s hosted, he’s definitely wrote some or at least helped write previous theories that mat has hosted too, I think the difference now is more just less minds working on the one theory at once so it’s a bit more coherent rather than people trying to gather different evidence all across the place and put it together

The Fredbear Icecream being "removed" in ruin means nothing. That Brasil ending wasn't Canon AND is also just Cassies hallucination while the Mimic ripped her apart or something anyways (The ending name is a reference to a scene from a movie where that basically happens) so either way it wasn't really real. Not saying I support Gregbot btw im just saying

As much as I agree with your points: The video still does misquote the books, claiming that the Mimic had once appeared as a mass of black wires.

Hey, Sorry for the dumb question but, shouldn't The books suposed to be parallels to the games?

He called burntrap afton and said tales are parrels ans said william made mimic. Those are my only issues other than that GREAT vid

I honestly despise this video quite a bit. We are talking about a franchise with a ton of books of different canon bits, games that supposedly explain the missing bits of previous game and an author that has taken a step back from the whole ordeal, letting entire new directions flourish. The concept of "misinformaton" is outright stupid. Everyone can build their own narrative taking bits of this and bits of that and make something entertaining and make sense. Having Chica being the first makes a lot of sense standing on a clear on the face quote from her in the game, just as being one of the few murders we actually get hints. So the books say otherwise? But the books say a lot of different bits, including character's names. What's the problem of taking bits of it and leaving some out? It's not like you can fully wrap yourself about everything. No, they hate Matpat. Most people just outright hate Matpat out of resentment. And they will cheer on Tom for taking over the channel of the one they hated. There is no reason to be so shitty on something that should just be interesting. You are not addressing the whole "Gregory is a robot" that pissed off everyone. Uh, uh, a robot human on a franchise of robos that come alive with the souls of children. Oh it's such a leap of logic.

chica is his 18 animaltonic, but also his first successful one

I stopped watching the FNAF theories after they released the Ultimate Custom Night theory. It feels like a good ending to all the FNAF theories.

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Under_Score how will you respond to the rumors

Might’ve aged badly

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