How Trading Ron Francis To Toronto In 2004 Helped Carolina Win The Stanley Cup | NHL Trade Trees

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Steve Dangle takes a look back at the 2004 deadline deal which saw the Toronto Maple Leafs acquire Ron Francis from the Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for a 4th round pick. Find out how that fourth round pick may have helped the Carolina Hurricanes win the 2006 Stanley cup and where the assets involved are today!
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@SirZapdos 4 года назад

If the name Brock McGinn sounds familiar, he scored the OT goal in game 7 against Washington in last year's first round on a pass from Justin Williams. Rod Brind'Amour was their head coach.

@FutureZek 4 года назад

And bailed out Mrazek's ass in the 3rd period. Ginner doesn't deny Wilson (I think it was Wilson; if not I'm sure someone will let me know), no 2OT, no 1st round win, no trip to the ECF.

@nicksojka7457 4 года назад

@@FutureZek But he did deny Wilson (it was Wilson, you were right), there was a 2OT, there was a 1st round win, and there was a trip to the ECF.

@theyoshi202 4 года назад

As a caps fan you didn’t have to remind me of that

@crosseyedcobra 4 года назад

Good ol Brock "I love to hit the goal post" McGinn

@erin_hall 4 года назад

crosseyedCOBRA omggg😭

@martinbernier6083 4 года назад

So, is it a stretch to say that the Leafs got beaten by David Ayers this year partly because of that trade sixteen years ago??? 🤔

@NoClient88 4 года назад

i mean, brock mcginn was on that team, so... yes?

@quinlanb7193 4 года назад

McGinn was part of the reimer injury I think, so yeah???

@dealy9268 4 года назад

@@quinlanb7193 That was Slaven.

@eugenechiu3332 4 года назад

Fun Fact: James Reimer is top 10 in shutouts in Sharks history despite playing only 8 games for them.

@NoClient88 4 года назад

wow

@afftonamericans8659 4 года назад

Ouch

@quinlanb7193 4 года назад

Dang

@ryleesjustvibin4129 3 года назад

How

@eugenechiu3332 3 года назад

short team history, so not many goalies to begin with. The number is only 3, tied with Kiprusoff and Boucher.

@HockeyPwnsBaseball 4 года назад

I was devastated when we traded Francis, but I can't complain about the result. I just wish he could've won a Cup with us

@DR.DisInfect 3 года назад

I'm not a canes fan but always liked Francis so of course when I ordered a reverse retro Carolina 🐳 jersey I had cool hockey 🏒 put his #10 C on it. Looks even cooler knowing he actually used to wear the whalers jersey also back in the day

@jacksonallen3945 4 года назад

As a cans fan, this was awesome. I felt like I was finishing Steve’s sentences the whole time

@TheVinylBroadcaster 4 года назад

Yep. Kept going to myself "this is how we got Dougie Weight, ain't it?"

@christophermerlot3366 4 года назад

Who are the Cans? Hurricans?

@Reudze 4 года назад

@@christophermerlot3366 yes

@erin_hall 4 года назад

Christopher Merlot whatta smart ass🤩

@dremin15 4 года назад

I’m surprised Steve didn’t squeal like a schoolgirl at the James Reimer pick

@jameskreisler6083 4 года назад

Ronnie Francis deserved to be on that 2006 team, he did so much for that franchise.

@daftpunked4800 4 года назад

Ron Francis was most certainly the face of the whalers in the 80's. 5 times he lead them in scoring and 9 times in ppg.....I would say he was their best player. Also, upon his return to the franchise ,now in Carolina,he was 1st or 2nd in scoring 4 straight seasons!

@hockeytard1 2 года назад

Ron Francis was an amazing player. Criminally underrated ! I was so stoked when he became a Leaf even if it was at the tail end of his outstanding career. Power play specialist, penalty killing specialist, faceoff specialist, 200- foot game, best known as a defensive forward and yet racked up the 5th most points in NHL history! Loved watchin Francis play. A guy who played the game the right way. Long live Ronnie! # Bestevertowear #10!

@WARPATH_45 4 года назад

Your trade trees are the only thing keeping me alive right now! 🤣

@brianmiddleton1845 4 года назад

If James Reimer was still on the Leafs when Mathews came to town, would he have given up 34?

@might33duck76 4 года назад

Yes.

@michaelspiegel8936 4 года назад

That's why they traded him... I miss Optimus Reim :(

@cmac9029 4 года назад

Hmm....interesting question. 34th like :-))

@PhatChin 4 года назад

Nobody add another Like. Illuminati confirmed.

@might33duck76 4 года назад

I was the first one to comment and didn't even add a like. It was meant to be.

@benwilliams2147 4 года назад

Don't forget that Ginner is an elite penalty killer, I could watch him do it all day

@hollykearney6031 4 года назад

Ben Williams yes!!! Fast skater and skilled as hell. Killing penalties with no stick?? Brock’s the man.

@nicksojka7457 4 года назад

As a Canes fan who was in preschool when the trade (and the Cup run) happened, this video was very informative.

@petervenier505 4 года назад

Keep them coming. This is fun to watch.

@TheRockMusicChannel 4 года назад

This is one of the most amazing trade trees ever Steve. Love these 🏒🏒🏒🏒!!

@jdsmith8447 4 года назад

This was awesome. Thank you, Steve!

@Unmatched86 4 года назад

I'm just discovering this trade tree topic, I am thoroughly enjoying it for my hockey fix!

@Krokodilius 4 года назад

cam ward: won the conn smythe annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd (wait 14 years) nothing else happened.

@mojo2th 4 года назад

He scored a goal! Yeah, I know... But... It's something.

@bartholomewesperanza3442 4 года назад

He was really good in his prime, unfortunately he played behind some truly god awful bluelines

@ryangilchrist56 4 года назад

Cam ward don't care achieved his goal in his first year. So yea. I'd say most players after they win that cup couldn't care less if they never win another game.

@TheVinylBroadcaster 4 года назад

Problem was, the Canes never got a serviceable back-up until Cam was over-cooked. And then, the back-ups were meant to be replacements (Eddie Lack, Khudobin, etc). And then they finally moved on from Cam with...Scott Darling. Can't blame them for going all in on him, and it was a heck of a story, and I certainly wish Scott the best but...he was not good in Raleigh.

@staubach1979rt 4 года назад

What an insanely great video. Kudos.

@wonderwomanguy 3 года назад

This was fun! Thanks!

@thinkingjack 4 года назад

Doug Weight wasn’t slamming home many goals even though he’s a top end scorer because he dislocated both shoulders if I remember correctly. That’s why his cup lift looked so awkward

@TheVinylBroadcaster 4 года назад

Yep--there's a great animated video about that on this website somewhere.

@lhsbandfreak11 Месяц назад

Super late to this comment, but then after his shoulder got completely obliterated in Game 5 against the Oilers, that sets the stage for another player to come back for the final 2 games of that series. That player? Erik Cole...less than 4 months removed from a BROKEN NECK!!! And Cole getting hurt accelerated the push for another trade deadline acquisition that paid off great dividends for the Canes during the Cup run, and who was that? Mark Recchi

@shandomassey8634 4 года назад

This was a really good one. Not as many pieces, but described so very well.

@jbwhite99 4 месяца назад

Hey Dangle - this is an amazing video!

@boating_on_a_budget6026 4 года назад

I love these trade tree videos

@TheVinylBroadcaster 4 года назад

Steve, just admit it. The Canes are your second favorite team. :-D

@akataj 4 года назад

OIlers Fan Steve has something to say about that.

@rjhaney2614 3 года назад

@@akataj Especially considering the 06 Finals.

@TheEDFLegacy 4 года назад

I absolutely adore the series. Keep it up! 😁 Speaking of adorable, how's your little one these days Steve?

@iankennedy9771 4 года назад

I love McGinn and Reimer, I had no clue the Francis trade helped us acquire them. Absolutely love this series

@BryanHalo123 3 года назад

Happy to hear you end the vid on what a stretch basing a trade tree on something as fungible as a fourth rounder is.

@lalk3434 3 года назад

That potvin figurine behind him is beautiful

@ssvoogel 4 года назад

Can't believe he talked about a goalie in a Leafs-Hurricanes related video and did not mention David Ayres

@FutureZek 4 года назад

He did allude to Mr. Ayres though.

@TheVinylBroadcaster 4 года назад

His therapist is probably suggesting to not talk about Ayres any more.

@BigVuVu 4 года назад

@@TheVinylBroadcaster u mean psychiatrist?

@dealy9268 4 года назад

Great video Steve. Hopefully you can add to this on how this trade helped the Canes win 2 cups after this year. McGinn/ Riemer

@williamm.buttlicker3870 4 года назад

Do the Trevor Linden trade tree. It's a very good one, especially after when they re-acquired him.

@floundermsu 4 года назад

These videos are a lot of fun. I'd like to see some more trees from the 80's and 90's. Being a Bruins fan, I'd be interested in a Cam Neely tree. Did that trade help put Vancouver in position to make that finals appearance against the Rangers?

@chrisphillips348 Год назад

Ron Francis is a good friend of my Dads and we used to sit in his GM a box with me wearing the opposing team’s jersey!!!

@jeffolsen6970 4 года назад

Literally just watched Bruins vs Whalers replay game last night with Ron Francis out there

@Airman241 4 года назад

That is interesting to follow

@matthewwinthrop3278 4 года назад

I wonder if the trade tree could be extended more. It would be a reach. The Blues got Weight back that offseason. They traded their pick and moved up to get Patrik Berglund who was eventually traded for Ryan O’Reilly. Lol I know it’s a stretch. I love these videos. So entertaining and informative.

@terrybarrett884 4 года назад

Love it! James Reimer is my neighbor in Raleigh! Let’s go Canes!

@MayoFilms83 4 года назад

I can see it now Oilers vs Hurricanes 2006 rematch for 2020 it'd be appropriate.

@nicksojka7457 4 года назад

Oh that would really be something. And even better if the WCF ends up being the Battle of Alberta.

@justinl1352 4 года назад

That trade with the Blues might not sound the greatest, but the Blues then packaged Reto Berra to the Flames to get good ol Jay Boumeester.

@jrgodin4884 3 года назад

Always interestingbut how about a little blurb on the offer Chicago supposedly made to Toronto for Mahovlich?

@TheNinja1712 4 года назад

The Canes take leafs goalies and even their zamboni drivers haha

@Wexter0083 3 года назад

I wonder why Steve has not done the Heatley for Hossa swap between the Trashers and Senators. It's a very interesting tree and it's crazy to see the pieces that came out of it as parts of it are still in play for the Jets and Senators to this very day! It's a crazy tree out what looks like a simple star swap.

@JoeMenjivar 3 года назад

Ron Francis was my favourite player when I was a kid, I don't know what this says about me. But it can't be that I am very exciting.

@jesseshore3873 4 года назад

You saying that Carolina felt they could continue to win after 06, me remembering that neither 06 Cup finalist made the 07 playoffs and laughing, then remembering I’m a Kings fan and 2015 happened...

@nicksojka7457 4 года назад

And to top it off, Edmonton then went on a 10-season playoff drought and we went on our 9-season drought in 2009.

@jonathanfrimerman8855 3 года назад

Wow!!! James Reimer was a steel in the 2006 draft as his pick was held by 4 different teams Columbus Carolina Chicago And then Toronto

@CAPTAINROCKET691 4 года назад

Have Steve Dangle make the Wayne Gretzky trade tree from the Oilers to the Kings.

@ariccua6101 3 года назад

For some reason, I was thinking it would be the FIRST Ron Francis trade tree (from HFD to PIT).

@beatle11 4 года назад

This is a textbook example of good asset management.

@HI-hr5up 2 года назад

Love the James Reimer anecdote because the Canes now have Frederik Andersen, a guy who they originally drafted but wouldn't play for and also played a long time for the Leafs.

@MMGJ10 4 года назад

1798 points for Francis, not 1791, and 1249 assists, not 1294. 549g+ 1249a= 1798pts. Sorry, had to be that guy that nit picks. Lol. And yes, I knew that. He was my favorite player when I was a kid.

@T_128 4 года назад

Suggestion box: Cam Neely/Barry Pederson trade tree. 34 years later, still active.

@thebosniangaming4425 4 года назад

we need a mark messier trade tree video, feel free to split it into a trilogy if you need to

@doaftheloaf 4 года назад

francis was the best player on his team for a decade in hartford and for some time in carolina. not exactly rarely.

@vampirefroggie 4 года назад

It got to 10:46 and I go "AHA!! THAT'S why Steve wanted to do this one!" Hehehe 😉😁

@steveciancone8941 4 года назад

Oh my, moving up 2 spots in the 4th round, would take that over winning the draft lottery any day can't lie 😂

@BenjaminHunting 4 года назад

'Rarely ever the best player on his team' except for nearly every single year he was with the Whalers. So, a full decade of being the best player on his team. In fact, he's the Whalers scoring leader by a full 300 points over the next guy, and that only includes his time as a Whaler, not as a Hurricane later on.

@andrewelliott1592 3 года назад

Ron Francis and Glen Wesley in Leafs jerseys is one of the weirdest images I've ever seen as a Canes fan

@gunsmithbasic 4 года назад

As an Oil fan its bittersweet to see Weight beat us for the cup, mostly bitter tho

@nathanwhite9555 2 года назад

You should also put together the trade tree for the first time this franchise traded away Ron Francis in 1991, as the Hartford Whalers. Although this was, by far, the worst trade in NHL history as it was the turning point that eventually led the team to leaving Hartford, the tree of this trade also helped Carolina win the Stanley cup in 2006 since it ended with Rod'Brindamour.

@SooloManne 4 года назад

I can't blame you, but an absolute butchers job on Rajamäki there, pure gold hahaha!

@bosslax3162 4 года назад

Completely thought this was about Steve Francis...

@claytonallard9976 4 года назад

You should do the Brett Hull trade to St. Louis

@shjoncampbell6754 4 года назад

Still wanting Pronger for Shanahan.. lead to Binnington in STL. And B'rindamour in Carolina. And Binnington was barely walking when this trade was made.

@PetterHughes 4 года назад

This explains the value of the 4th round pick haha

@AloysiusRandy 4 года назад

Should do up another 40 minute video and do the Messier trade!!

@tietaja4085 4 года назад

Do next Olli Jokinen from islanders to the panthers

@austincurl657 4 года назад

Do the Dion Pahenf trade tree

@taylorshigh4203 4 года назад

When you see the trade trees with the leafs in them you see where it all went wrong

@johnhyduk797 4 года назад

Can you make a trade tree about James Neal

@markflynn7810 4 года назад

Steve you should do Wendell Clarks trade tree he is a legend and it got the leafs another legend from the nordques

@lorenzolamarche-welker9405 3 года назад

You could look at how the 1996 Selanne trade ended up helping the Ducks win the cup in 2006-07...because of Rob Niedermayer.

@kytch111 4 года назад

It is all about the 4th rounders!!!!!!!!

@stayfrosty7558 4 года назад

Can you do Rick Nash to the Rangers trade?

@billywhited8604 4 года назад

You sholud do the Ryan Miller trade from Buffalo to St. Louis

@philiptyka1040 4 года назад

Rick Nash trade tree, please it ends up building the rangers roster today

@danielflammia6460 4 года назад

That’s asset management at it’s finest

@christophermerlot3366 4 года назад

As a masochistic Leafs fan I'd love to see these for both the Raycroft and Toskola trades. To this day when I hear the name Ferguson Jr I spit three times, virus be damned.

@MetaKnight4141 4 года назад

Do a trade tree for Wayne Gretzky please

@matttricomi2259 4 года назад

“that somewhere” hasn’t been toronto in a longggg time 😂

@zacharywilliams3675 4 года назад

Do the Jagr trade tree

@mcj88 4 года назад

Ron Francis is an ex-Hartford Whaler, in fact he's probably the best player to ever play for the NHL Whalers; how could I possibly slander that underrated legend?

@scottkirkness8002 4 года назад

I mean... I'm pretty sure Gordie Howe played for the Whalers, but I get your point

@mcj88 3 года назад

@@scottkirkness8002 - 2nd best NHLer, but not the best _NHL Whaler._

@bigks1983 4 года назад

Do the Doug Gilmour trade to Toronto please

@froboy252 3 года назад

Justin Williams was coaches by his former teammate. Wow.

@HatTrkPatrk Месяц назад

I get it's cool that they used that 4th rounder to acquire a playoff rental but the mantra of this series is always "the principal part of the deal" to keep it going, how is a 4th round pick a primary piece in a trade that involves 4 players and a 1st rounder lol

@2Jim2u 4 года назад

E Johnson and P Berglund are drafted in 1st round for St Louis that 1st round was off loaded to NJD. Whomever said those bottom 1st round picks meant nothing ... what did Berglund get StL. And all of their forwards mean nothing because Armstrong had Binnington on WAIVERS in Sept 018. C Ya cup.

@kloudrebirth 4 года назад

Now I wanna try to trade up from a paper clip to a house.... challenge accepted

@hackim8563 4 года назад

Can you guys do the Tyler Seguin trade?

@danieldosso2455 4 года назад

which one?

@zafwarsi3238 4 года назад

There is only one ...

@thebosniangaming4425 4 года назад

second best ron of all time, behind leafs legend ron hainsey

@jomoee4123 2 года назад

Do francis to The Pens trade

3 года назад

Wasn't David Ayers part of that trade too?

@wyomingptt 4 года назад

Was Jim Rutherford the GM at this time? I always thought he got fleeced by Shero, but since he' been in Pittsburgh I think he's been one of the best GMs in the league! Agressive, but not afraid to admit he made a mistake and attempt to fix it *er hem* *_Derick Brassard..._* lol

@TheVinylBroadcaster 4 года назад

Yes, he was. Rutherford does good for about 5-8 years, and then he starts pushing too hard to keep a core together, and it tears down a team. It's what happened to the Canes. Pittsburgh is next.