Closet cheaters are the worst, because you can’t differentiate them from someone legit. Also, I hope Valve does well with fixing the cheater problem so I can stop being accused of cheating just because I have some 200iq moments. Seems like everyone is always accusing others of cheating even when the person isn’t, but I guess that’s paranoia for you.
@@InfinityReptar yeah i get what you say, i came back recently and after some casual top fraggin games my trust factor went from green to red but it's not their fault, valve shitty anticheat made the paranoia rise and now even if you are legit you could get reported coz everyone knows that the game is full of cheaters even players with expensive skins
@@_Tao__ just keep playing the game and it should eventually get back to green trustfactor. As far as I know my trustfactor hasn’t dropped below green, but that could be because my account is pretty old. It just gets tiresome to be accused of cheating after awhile, especially from teammates. If you do bad/mediocre, you are trash at the game. If you do good, you’re cheating. No in-between.
@@_Tao__ how are u even seeing if ur trust factor is green/red?? I am starting to the my trust factor is low since my last 3 matches were a hvh match and 1 with a cheater on my team..... This started happening after getting alot of reports in dm and after that in comp matches..... I deranked from global to le thanks to good ol mm balancing
@@eetulehtonen69 I'd rather have cheaters run rampant than have someone being vac'd when innocent. That would absolutely tarnish their name more than literally not even banning any cheaters.
Yeah you'd rather get false positives until you get your account permabanned because of overwatch when the closest you have been to cheating was x raying in your friend's minecraft server
@@Bloodbound89 i would do A LOT, you know how tired i am of hearing idiot russians scream into their mics? not to mention that they dont even speak english 99% of the time
yoooo wouldn't it be sick if you could report someone mid-match and have valve send an AI agent over to spectate them in your live match like an old school admin?
@@kendarr Can you please refrain from talking about topics you have NO IDEA about? the AI is not a human... it does not need time to watch the demo... it can do it in a fraction of a second... 1 AI can watch literal 120 games demo's in a sec... now have 1000 AI's waiting for a Demo 120.000 games a sec... how much more do you need? and if you think they need so many servers to run it? no... look at ChatGPT.... MILLIONS of users prompting TRILLIONS prompts use that one "server"(super computer) and it does it ALL AT THE SAME TIME... and you think it cant check a demo for weird shit trillions of times?
@@hallo8332 so you’re okay with cheating in anything non-professional too? cuz im assuming your implication of “it’s just a game” is you saying that it’s unimportant. so technically anything that has no impact on one’s income and general life means it’s okay to cheat in that thing?
@@spr1te995 listen I hate cheaters in video games too, and I should of phrased it correctly cheating at the real expense of others is not good, but just because some people cheat in games for fun without actually hurting anyone, it doesn't mean that they have a low moral standard or are evil
@@hallo8332 that is literally exactly what it means. it means they they dont have morals to respect fairness. “without hurting anyone” is completely subjective. video games are just as much a hobby as anything else, and no one should cheat at the expense of others. its the same as participating in any other hobby and cheating. it’s morally wrong.
@@RSkrub I know what expect ppl to yell the game is amazing and it pulls players even tho it's old and it's lives and will love forever and yada yada yada... Nah mate the game pulls money. A LOT of money Thats why it's still important to take care off A game is measured by he's financial success just like movies Game like Fortnite are being made fun of for being dead but they pull money so they still being taken care off Of something pulls money then it's should be kept up with the minimal care of at least helping the game not be full of hackers and bots OR just pull the plug... Either announce that the game won't get any more updates and be left with the server on until the last drop of money will be drained or just shut it down... Don't leave it for that just to milk it... But we are talking about a company... Even valve is being driven by money so they do what makes it
I should say that updating TF2 again will make them wayyyyy more money then it dose now but it's a gumble for them They make money without doing anything so why would they ? Why would anyone?
@@NatzoXavier Trust factor extends beyond your main, paid account. If you smurf, other parts of your account matter, including related accounts. Valve know I have a smurf, and they treat the account as well as my main. You don't have to go very far to see new players complaining about trying to learn the game without a tutorial, but getting flamed and cheated on. Remember, the game is free-to-play, so new players are not prime, so if you've paid the $15 for your smurf you're already going to get a better experience than new F2P players.
@@cybersteel8 There is no reason to play f2p. Also I get some cheaters on one of my smurfs but not on the others or my main. So I believe they all have their own TFs.
I have a 13 year old account, cs on it since 2014, 3500 hours, and my trust factor is garbage from getting spam reported by noobs in casual lol. It doesn't work. I have to play with cheaters and noobs constantly because I'm decent at the game. That's my reward 😂
People don’t understand that, in current times it will be theoretically impossible to cheat after machine learning is used since it is just a trained bot that compares your gameplay to millions of others, overwatch on steroids
For now it's still not monetarily possible, sure running a couple of games through a model is possible but to analyse all potential cheaters would mean a LOT of computational power. They are probably working in a super efficient model, but it will probably take a couple of years until it's implemented
Thing is, an AI cannot differentiate someone using an extremely fast in game 180° and hitting a few shots from a guy who is using a spinbot without really hitting his shots... this literally can get you banned right now in csgo
yeah I can believe 99.9% of cheats cause red trust, but all players in red trust aren't cheaters, I remember at one point I got accused of cheating so much, I couldn't load a private match and play CSGO match making within the same session, I had to restart my game, which I don't have to do now, probably because the game has determined I'm not a cheater lmao
Same happened with me. I started playing CSGO on a really bad computer. My teammates kept reporting me for throwing when it was my hardware holding me back. When I got a better PC, it was near impossible to have an enjoyable experience due to my trust factor being so low to the point where I had to start over and make a new account.
Yeah, there absolutely has to be a gradient to the entirety of it. I get reported, I report a couple of people and the reports are pending, but get stuck on a low enough of a trust factor to be vs cheaters every game. It obviously resets after some time, but there definitely should be a gradient even when overwatch judging someones plays. Not a binary option. Overwatch needs percentage values.
Just got a friend into CS for the first time yesterday. He started with low trust factor (it gave us all the pop up saying so) and it took over 30 mins to find a game just due to him being an entirely new player who even got prime to do comp matches after leveling up with some gun game matches. So it’s definitely not the most forgiving system. If anything it hindered us immensely as a squad. We won the match it did find but still that long a wait time is unacceptable really when 470k+ people were showing as on the game at the time in NA.
like 50% of games I play in solo queue my team is 3 or 4 russians just talking to each other in russian. A region selection would be amazing so that I can actually communicate with my team
Although I am not gonna get hyped before I see anything, Valve usually only takes steps when they are the bold ones and is usually pushing innovation in some way.
You cannot talk about any multiplayer game in 2023 or forward without talking about robust anti cheat systems. I'm looking at XDefiant, Heartland, The Finals, so on. No matter how fun they might be, if they don't counter cheats, they gonna fail. Really happy with Valve's commitment on CS2 and improving their systems.
A very good thing that machine learning will be used to identify cheater behavior. i was thinking about it for years , it's great that valve finally use this ! Good video btw
that is a Boulogne crap, what it shows is how likely you are cheating, and yet will do nothing. How long been VAC learning implemented ??? How may muted players you encountered?? How many legit cheating in OW cases you get??? Very few right. So this sounds good but it's just crap propaganda.
As a legit player who was once Global Elite before the cheaters took over the upper ranks, never once has someone watched me play the game and go "yeah he looks like he is cheating" and that's a meme cheaters say. "it only looks like im cheating because im good" or "watch the demo" and watching the demo, they are clearly cheating. its so obvious. from reaction times that are too fast to be human, to clear aimbot/aimlocking. its not something that can be hidden. its always obvious. I have yet to meet a cheater who passed my mental radar. No such thing as "hiding" their cheats. Which brings me to the next meme, "its my smurf account" no its not. there is no reason to have multiple accounts unless you cheat. long ago during cs:source a buddy let me use his "alternate" account. I was a greenhorn then. 7 months later the account was banned and I could not join. I messaged him with my chat app (x-fire) and he said """oh, haha, that was my cheater account, i would never cheat on my main, so I have multiple accounts to cheat""" and from that point on i realized, people cheat. all the fucking time. and anyone with multiple accounts cheats. if you never cheat, you never need more than 1 account. I am 34 years old, I have one account for blizzard, one for steam, one for valorant. I have never been banned and never going to be. I was global elite rank in CS:GO for a LONG time. then cheaters started getting more rampant and sure enough, my rank dropped. then there was the first RANK fix from steam, rank dropped again. then more cheaters, dropping more ranks. now im around MG/DMG and can't get higher because every time im about to, 2-3 cheaters on the other team. because the upper ranks is FILLED with cheaters. now ive been told that ESEA and FACEIT servers effect your rank? so you can end up high rank. but i dont believe that for a second, because private servers can't possible effect your rank. which means they are LYING and are actually cheaters, who cheat on ESEA and FACEIT. funny enough, I have one cheater who I saved his profile link, he still cheats in ESEA and normal valve MM, and hasn't been banned.... literally a blatant aimbot cheater. he doesn't even try to hide it. when i check his link every once in awhile i see he is still playing CS and still isn't banned on ESEA or steam.... insanity. then i look at other games.... Rainbow 6 Siege said they wont ban cheaters, instead they will increase their recoil to insane levels to make the game unplayable.... except that doesn't make sense, because they are already cheating and have no recoil because ""cheats""..... so how exactly are the punishing cheaters? insanity. when valve released their AI Anti-Cheat, they stated that it was run privately for 6 months in duo lobbies aka wingman. 90% accuracy in catching cheaters and statistically 60% of players were cheating. SIXTY FUCKING PERCENT. If you apply that to CS's 300k player base, that's about 180,000 cheaters.... that is HORRIBLE. Then you start to apply that statistic to other games, like rainbow 6 siege, or call of duty, or battlefield, and you start to realize cheating is a REAL FUCKING PROBLEM. Its basically an epidemic.... its that bad. AS IT STANDS, I have played warzone2, a lot of it, platinum rank so far in the few times I've played with friends. you can literally see these people aimlocking to center chest. its so fucking obvious. and they go "its just aim assist" no its not. I can plug a controller in and see for myself, it does NOT lock center mass like they show. not even close to that level of locking. they are just straight up cheating. many now using controller on PC PLUS cheats, so they can go "its just aim assist." insanity. all games should remove aim assist. if you are a console player, A. turn off crossplay, there are more console owners than PC owners, you wont have an issue playing with "superior mouse and keyboard" even though you can plug mouse and keyboard into your console.... so you can play vs just other controller players. thus you dont need aim assist since "its fair".... but that argument is bullshit. because older version of COD on console were NOT crossplay (way back) and still had aim assist. and dont get me started on competitive gameplay. aim assist should be disabled in any competitive gameplay mode. you are playing based on skill, not computer aim assist.... if you aren't good, play more, get better. period. know a guy on mouse/keyboard who sucks. and yet every day he gets on and tries and gets better. he doesn't go download cheats. he doesn't use controller and aim assist. he is learning to aim. hes not gonna be a god day one.... no one is. and that's the issue with modern gamers. they want to win at any cost. its a false high.... they have no idea how good it feels to win by your own skill....
I don't really care much about people who blatantly cheat, using aimbot/triggerbot etc.. Since it's obvious, I know they will eventually get banned and they're not fooling anyone. What scares me are the ones who simply use wallhack and are really good at hiding it. It's a lot harder to detect (even watching demos, if they're really good at hiding it) and the only option is really the AC actually detecting the cheat on the computer or smth... I'm 100% sure there have been cases even in the overwatch system, of players using wallhack, but they were so good at hiding it, they passed as "good players". And that's the other problem which makes it even worse.... When actual good/decent players, are the ones using wallhack and hiding it very well.. Those are the peak of the problem. A player can be really good at hiding wallhack... but suck at the game.. Which makes it suspicious.. You can usually tell those ones apart very easily, no matter how good they are at hiding their wallhack, either its their movement, gamesense etc... But when it's a good player using wallhack, and he's also really good at hiding that he's wallhacking... Well.. Those players are the real fucking cancer on CS:GO.
You have a point however, the percentage of good players using cheats is much lesser than the noobs. Think mate if you are good player, do you really need cheats??? and risk you acc?? Nop. Other thing is using wallhacks, even if you good in hiding, you will do sus things, and the more you do the more likely you are a cheater. The part of Demos and OW is that players are not educated to determine if the guy is legit hacking or not. From my 10 years experience in CS, I find that people tends to avoid report players, sometimes you need to beg for them to report. If you good player you will not get reported for cheats as you think.
I have been around the CS community since the early years of 1.6 & I’m Praying 🙏 valve can make CS a cheater free game.. That would be amazing. I also hope they can focus on other issues like allowing globally muted players to queue a mm match. If someone is globally muted they are a “troll”/toxic & don’t deserve to queue a match until the global muted ban is lifted. Also a game should end if someone leaves the game and doesn’t come back within a time frame. It’s completely unfair to have people join & just quit the game & we still have to play that out. The extra income doesn’t cut it after 4 minutes of waiting… People need to just accept the reality of level they play at. Cheats are not the way!
Not a big fan of trust factor since your account can get screwed over by people that report you just because. I had to make a new account simply because my first one had such a low trust factor due to my early CS experience being on a really bad laptop which caused my teammates to mass report me every other game.
You should have low trust factor if you ruin games because you have a shitty computer. Stop being selfish and dont play competitive with randoms if your computer is the problem.
@@6thsense464 there was no other way to play the game at the time. It was MM or nothing. Thankfully now unranked exist, but we needed that way long ago.
My biggest cheater problem is with wingman, there is no overwatch or replay so a lot of people just straight up cheat with 100% headshot accuracy at like 16 kills is legit ridiculous. And it seems Valve is not gonna change anything for that mode.
Valve has been using machine learning for years already, CS2 won't change much, just better graphics for cheaters. Even the massive anticheat update last year didn't ban any of my accounts. I go ultra blatant most games and still have green trust on every account.
Being a legit badass at CS feels incredible. I’m not a badass anymore but i played cal-im on 1.6 and cal-m on source. Life happened. But I keep up with this shit almost being 30 years old now. Sometimes it’s hard to distinguish between a cheater and a well oiled player or team. Since crosshair placement is key
You said something completely wrong. Aimbot is WAY harder to detect than ESP. A player with really great aim, and a player with aimbot are nearly indistinguishable. In fact - you can make undetectable aimbot with just the info from your monitor. That kind of cheating will never disappear no matter what Valve does.
ESP is harder to detect. Of course if its in an external overlay. Kernel level ESP is undetectable to User level AC like vac, and any half competent player can hide it. Aimbot is pretty scummy tbh.
that screengrab based aimbot is trashy and inconsistent and stutters. bad aimbot method. i would rather play the game normally with no cheats than use that god awful method if i had a gun to my head to pick between being a cheater and staying legit
By removing the structured tick update at specific intervals they have allowed the servers to better detect a cheater's update tick. I like a lot! Genius!
I just wanna say, buying the Steam Deck boosted my trust factor by an INSANE amount. Like, the quality of games I get now is unreal. I just recently got back into the game, and I have played like 40 MM games since I came back, and every game has had teammates with mics, no griefing, not a single cheater, and not even a single sus player. I kept thinking to myself, "is this really CS:GO? Am I just having a dream right now?" Previously, I tried getting back into the game like 1-2 years ago, but I just kept getting blatant cheaters in MM, people griefing, etc. and it was just very obvious that I had below average trust factor. Since then, I have gotten my 5 year coin for CS on this account, bought the steam deck, and played a lot of singleplayer/casual games on my account. So hey, if you already want a steam deck, this is definitely an added benefit that you might get once you buy it. I love my steam deck, I've probably spent 500 hours on it since I got it last July.
@starfox300 No, the steam deck is a PC. I don't play cs:go on the steam deck and I wouldn't really recommend it. It is just known that trust factor is influenced by your actions on Steam as a whole, not just CS:GO, so if you drop money on something like the Valve Index or Steam Deck, it probably thinks you are less likely to cheat
As the saying goes, "better 100 murderers to roam free than for 1 innocent man to be put away for murder" It is far more important for VAC to never throw away a non cheater than it is for it to catch the majority.
Would be infinitely easier if Valve just made a kernel-level anticheat like Valorant. Would seriously change the cheating situation. People need to either be willing to have that or be accepting of the fact they will have a much higher cheater rate.
@@ben2474 I'm 99% sure that will not happen. CS2 is a product of Valve, who also sell the Steam Deck. The Deck (and many other Steam users, myself included) use Linux. It would lead to a lot more work on their behalf just to gain a slight edge, and compatibility will be very hard to achieve.
I must say, the trust factor implementation did really help with blatant cheaters. Over time I have seen waaay less of the insane over-the-top kinds of cheaters, when they used to be much more common a few years ago. But they haven't done anything on the "toggler" type of cheaters, or cheaters who really work to hide what they're doing. What I've noticed is, over time, crazy speed bot, aimbot noclip mode cheaters have largely starved and become rare in high trust factor mm, while the covert, toggling, really sleezy types of cheaters have thrived. So effectively they just swapped incentives but the number of cheaters did not go down, and may be at an all time high imo because the counter measures are well-known quantities. Hopefully the new vac idea works as intended
The problem is that it's hard to tell who actually cheats. If they're really good at hiding it then there's only a few clues that can help you identify it like timing, situational awareness or certain types of kills. For me, I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt but I've become so paranoid that it's hard to even tell who's actually completely cracked off their mind and who's using external software. Even though this AI anti-cheat has promise I'm not getting my hopes up until I see it in action.
@@Yassen2828 Same here. I've found it's more rare to encounter a cracked player than just a regular cheater, they're more common, but it can be really hard to tell at times. Other times there's some pretty obvious giveaways, but most people can't spot them. Rank plays a huge part as well, as the higher rank you go the more cheaters you will run into and they'll be harder to distinguish.
Would be really nice if we had a frindlieness score in the game, so that toxic players play with other toxic players, and adequate ones don't have to deal with that.
I played csgo religiously from 2015-2018. Then I just stopped playing it for 5 or 6 years.. didn’t care about it at all.. I took a day or two to play a couple matches a couple months ago.. now I’m completely obsessed with it like I did back then. I’m happy about that because no other game really held my attention for long periods of time.. Halo Mcc was the closest thing . I just bought a legit monitor so I can live stream with little background noise such as loud laptop fans and what not. Out of all avenues of life.. my favorite place to preach is cs casual . The responses are endlessly entertaining and it gets the Job done ✅ thank you Valve and CSGo
Bro I’ve been facing so many hackers, specially in the map, Mirage, Every game has over two cheaters, both sides, sometimes without hackers the game becomes super easy, but again hackers buy more accounts and cheat more, if they block the system with the IP address, so none of the accounts work on that platform, then the cheating will be terminated, That’s the best advice to Valve!!
They could fix the cheating issue if you had to verify your personal ID/passport to play competitive. People would be really scared to lose their only chance of playing the game
To the part with the Trustfactor. Im a good player and was Global/Supreme in csgo. Now in cs2 i played maaany mms like already 200-250. Even tho i have Skins for 4k$ many guys think im cheating and report me. Now im getting queued with Cheaters in Premiere and sometimes in MM even tho i am a good mate😢
Valve being the data loving company they are, surely keeping the overwatch system would be invaluable for training their new AI anticheat model? Give the tester a yes, no and maybe box, give the tester the same 'what cheat were they using' options as normal, and feed that data into the new anticheat AI.
from what we know, nothing "new" is happening clientside so we can't really reverse engineer it. it's all running on valves end, we can only make assumptions.
2:54 this is a good feature but if they region lock you players in the caribbean get stuck with all the spanish players and now they have to learn a whole new language. While i get 64 ping in SA i get 78 avg in NA. Region locking can be good and bad as some may lose by gaining a language barrier with little ping increase and others just gain in general
Depends on how the AI system works, if it detects e.g. inhuman pixel adjustments (a human cannot see, 1px is enough) and you have multiple moments of it in one game, then it is 100% sure that an aim hack is used. Also it has been showed that it is possible to create an "unique profile" for your play style within 2hours playtime with the help of AI (it can also check game recordings that happend long time ago), i.e. once you cheated and the new system detects it, you get banned and you cannot play a csgo game every again. You need to keep in mind, that an AI can learn things and detect patterns that are never possible to see by us human.
Unpopular statement, but it's gonna be real awkward when a surprising number of pro players get banned by this new machine learning cheat detection. Lord have mercy.
You clearly dont understand how screenshots work. Atleast in CSGO they take a picture of the player's server side. Unless it takes a picture directly from the game, its not gonna detect it. And even then, just hook the ESP to an overlay like discord and boom you have wallhacks while the game looks 100% clean. So easy to bypass.
pretty much anything that is done on a suspects computer can be circumvented by the suspect. the most effective anticheat is serverside. if you want the best anticheat system ever, create a game where you don't fight enemies, all movement is handled serverside, and you aren't allowed to aim because thats unfair.
This is a good thing.. the reason i quit csgo around 4 years ago is that It's hard to play competitive when around 50% or even more of your games includes cheaters... not just against but even within your team
I want to rant a little about CS cheating. I used to be global years ago, legitly and all I can say is it was a nightmare of stress getting there. I think I kept the rank for just a few days and the stress was overwhelming. I was so stressed out, I would refuse friend invites and only play with very specific people becuase I knew I HAD to in order to keep ranking up. The pool of people I would play with had to be so cohesive and able in order to overcome closet cheaters that acutally cared about their accounts. After getting the rank I basically stopped playing because it was impossible to maintain with my 100% legit crew pool I was basically forced to played with if I wanted to fit within Valve's ranking system. Basically ostracising us legit members of the CS community. I started playing CS when it was still a mod and fell in love with it. Cheating drove me away after years and years of great times. A very important point I want to mention is having a home or community server where you "belong". Valve unintentionally or intentionally has created a system that kills the community. The influence of belonging cannot be underestimated, cheating is not "cool" and if community servers were once again front and center of casual play it could be a large peice of the puzzle to making cheaters uncool, as lame as that sounds. When everyone knows everyone else and cheaters are not welcome, period that changes the player bases perception. We "overwatched" ourselves becuase as a whole the community would reject random newcomers that were suspect. I understand that does not line up with valve wanting their system to be God but having that place you belong was everything to longevity and playability.
@@shallex5744 VACNet autobanned spinners for the first time in 2022, it launched in 2016 or 2017. You can still blatantly cheat without having to worry about getting banned, and that will not magically change with CS2. By the time VACNet will be able to detect humanized aim assist, our grandchildren will be playing the game
Cheaters aren't that common anymore. It used to be worse in 2016 or so, in the past year I've come accross maybe 10 people that I am confident were cheating. 1 was spinbotting. I think people just want to complain and have an excuse for losing sometimes. Certainly doesn't effect me or anyone that I know on a daily basis. Of course there are people in my group of friends that constantly complain about someone on the other team every game who is just better than them.
cheating is still a big issue but if you play in high trust, especially in populated regions like EU, you wont find many as most cheaters play in low green or red trust in high ranks
I think the issue is people are not confident in vac so even if someone is just good they will still think its closet cheating combined with unfair matchmaking the issue gets amplified
If you are in a continent that only connects to Chinese servers you will see how big the cheater community is. I have this player tagged who has every known cheat enabled when he plays, you can't even report him as the account name is different from the player name every time you try and report him.
Trust factor is fantastic if you are a long time player and is a reason I stick around CS. Playing casual games without trust factor exposes you do how bad it is when you don't have it. I can't remember the last time I came across a cheater in my competitive games and I don't want to play a competitive game that does not have a similar system in place. Anything new should be built in addition to and around this system.
Honestly more excited about the different EU servers than the cheating situation, getting 4 russians on my team that barely spoke english is what made me stop playing CS
I trust Valve way more with installing a kernel level anti cheat. Compare that to letting Riot, a Tencent owned company installing a kernel level anti cheat. Different servers for EU are crucial. I don't play CSGO simply because of the amount of Russians. I have heard of many others who feel the same.
Why is the solution to finding a cheater to just put them in a special lobby? Why not permaban their payment method, ip, and hardware id? Cuz more money?
"cheaters end up in matches with other cheaters" no you ban them. It's almost like making the game ftp encouraged cheating because there's no consequences for getting banned. All they do is just make another profile and keep going.
Thats what happens and will happen. Also if they get banned they just go to community servers. Majority of cheaters will just go against other cheaters in a process called HvH. Its more fun than legit cheating imo. Dont hate on hvh-ers, hate on legit and closet cheaters, they are the real jerks here. Not all cheaters are bad.
As long as they don't decide to make a cernel level anti cheat which makes sure that your privacy and security is completely destroyed then it's a good start.
ML aimbots really aren't that great because you need a lot of data to train them. Sure, you can technically pay sweatshop workers but these kind of cheats are already excluding the cheat devs with the means. Also also, once the AI gets slightly superhuman, it will get noticed and banned most likely.
This really shows that you don't need a kernel level access spyware masked as anticheat like valorant has. Valve has always been on top they've been developing this for YEARS.
VAC is a steaming pile of crap at the moment. Maybe this will be good, but you DO need a kernel level AC, else the (already existing) cheats will continue to work 100% undetected.
I am a pretty old guy (53 😁) first time in my life playing games, addicted to CS GO, playing only the DUST map over and over again. What is the joy of cheating? When I see weird stuff, I am disconnected immediately.
1 thing you got very very wrong. clipping tabzware..... he even got this point wrong. yes, many free chests cause red trust. but if you pay for even the cheapest cheats, there's way way less than "99.9%" of them which cause red trust
Would somehow monetizing cheaters prevent cheating in game? Like a ban on the cheater cannot be lifted without incurring a payable fee? What do you think, aside from the cheater being able to bypass it by creating multiple accounts? I mean, csgo isn't completely free to play for comp players
Creating new accs, spoofing HWID's and IP's are all easy bypasses. atm csgo is full of cheaters. i stick to hvh tho. I dont like ruining the fun of other players by cheating (blatantly). Also monetizing isnt really possible if the game is free, they will just create another account run a hwid spoofer and a mac and ip spoofer and they are back cheating.
imagine this: you have an immortal criminal who can teleport anywhere he wants. you try to arrest him, hes gone. shoot him, nothing happens. so lets say you destroy his car as a punishment and try to make him pay a fee for it to be repaired. he will just steal other peoples cars instead of paying the fee
Cheating is one thing, Smurf is another big issue as well... Cheaters are hiding their crime, while Smurf doesn't give a f*** because it's not “technically” cheating. Hope to see a 2FA system and/or a better way to stop both of these issues for CS2.
I know Valorant has a system for smurfs where they pick up on it quickly if you're performing above your rank and they end up giving you a double rank up if your hidden mmr is far above your actual mmr. Idk if valve does that but it seems to work pretty well in valorant
@@LTJ4CK Well the only problem with Valorant's AC is that it's pretty intrusive as it has kernel access to your PC. Other programms also have that and can be quite intrusive but I'd rather have a few cheaters then willingly let an AC system scan literally my entire PC before the operating system can even start up properly. Unfortunately it seems like the only proper way to have a solid AC that catches most (not all tho) cheaters is to give it kernel access like FaceIt also uses.
@@Z38_US Honestly, right now I'd rather have AC that's intrusive than playing against cheaters 80% of the time. Since Overwatch is out, we have gone from 1 cheater per 5 games to 1 cheater every 2 games (on competitive and at the MG level). It's currently ridiculous for a company that averages $1-2 million PER DAY to leave so many cheaters (30% of the total player pool) on their game. We went from 75000 ban per month in 2022 to only 25000-30000 ban in the last 2-3 months. VAC bans is a small portion versus Overvatch bans so they removed the only tools that was working "OK". I feel like they abandoned us...
No way its just a money grab, they didnt "need" more people buying cases, I think they actually started cs2 development some time after valorant was launched, they need to refresh their game so people will continue to play the best 5v5 tac shooter ever made instead of some copy disney cs (valurint)
Yeah TF had to be updated. When I played some games with lower rank friends in Wingman, I got a deep red TF for a while. I think that had to do with enemies reporting me. It is very annoying, because in every ranked mode I had to wait forever to find a game... BUT only thing to get the green TF back is playing. xD
interestingly, VAC is a userspace anticheat as well, so unlike valorants, it can't really spy on you all that easily and is easier to remove. It also means that while it technically makes some cheats easier to develop it not possible to bypass by going kernal level as well by the cheats as even the kernal level anti-cheats are now having to do what VAC has already been doing and getting better and better at for years
they only have a server in spain, and that is in madrid and a lot of times gives out the server is under high load (imo, they ahould put one in albacete 😎)
While machine learning sounds like the dream solution, it is not magic. Particularly one of its weaknesses is its precision. A human would have too look through tagged replays to confirm, otherwise the false positives would be too high. The only real solution to hackers is unfortunately a strong kernel anti-cheat. This will deny and intercept any ReadMemoryProcess calls and prevent kernel drivers from accessing game memory as well. This is what Valorant does and it works very well there, however it is controversial because it practically gives the creator of the anti-cheat root level access to your device.
of course. its very profitable and i rather say dont hate the player, hate the game. as if i care about kids, if i know c++. make a working code and prevent getting abused. valve should hire more engineers, thats it.
@@jennalove6755 The actual cheats that are skillfully coded are the high level ones that not only cost a lot of money but also need an invite to even buy which in itself is difficult to obtain for security reasons. These cheats are much more difficult to detect or get rid of pretty much impossible to get rid of all of them but sometimes some of these high level cheats get leaked and are detected.
@@jennalove6755 no LMFAO. Most free cheats are like that. The moment you pay for any half decent cheat, you get a way better experience. Just dont comment when you dont know what the hell you are talking about.
Very nice vid and pacing. Hope them cheaters will be done. P.S. Little advice: use an izotope rx de-mouth-clicker for your voice so we all will not hear your saliva louder than your voice anymore xD
I'm scared to play good. I've been on and off supreme rank, reason being once I ranked up, the 3rd - 4th match I've played was against blatant cheaters. No, not the "He's better than me, must be cheating kind" No. Spin bots, fake-lag, only headshot 40kill ppl. People were telling me my trust was low, since the lobby warned them, I must be getting reported from left to right, so... I'm not a big fan of this trust factor thing. It shouldn't even be low for me When it first came out Valve stated that trust factor looks at numerous factors, like other played games, how much I've played them etc etc. I'm playing on my main, 3k hours cs:go, almost 2k hours in ESO, 200+ owned games, 400€ CS:GO inventory, yet I'm still "not trusted" wtf Not to mention the other day, went for a low rank match with my mates on another account. That account of mine has better trust factor with no other game than CS:GO, 10 eur inventory, yet we've had a cheater in our game, once again blatant cheater. Shit sucks.
I would return to competitive cs if they solve the closet cheaters. How do you sleep at night knowing your successes have nothing to do with your abilities.
Does anyone know if the new improved anti-cheat is already in the new cs2 beta? Because I see and read forum posts about cheating that are saying it's even easier than in csgo, and forum posts and videos of old exploits that were long patched comming back in the cs2 beta.
My biggest concerns are the cheaters in csgo. I left 1.6 years ago because of them and VAC not doing their job. I lost my 20-year badge because of that. STEAM would not allow me to have my account back. The AWP and other sniper rifles are a problem. Is CStrike, CSGO, or CSGO2 supposed to be realistic? Why are the sniper rifles not? That issue needs to be fixed too. When you have cheats and snipers? There has to be a fix. Next. DUST needs to come back. DUST2 is getting old. We have been without DUST for so long. DUST is a better map.
