they interviewed CS2's biggest cheat developer… 

I was saying this for years but you can't tell that people on reddit. Whats so hard for people to understand that Cheat Developers are also just programmers, they have the same IQ and abilities, don't need to fear the GOV, don't need to keep their code in fence. Its not Smart Game devs against dumb Cheat Developers, its Smart Game Devs against absolutely Smart Cheat Developers that are often smarter than the Game developers. I knew someone who was selling Cheats for DayZ, turns out he had a Master Degree and was later working as a Network Specialist at a Nuclear Site. How many Game Developers do you know who later work at the NSA,Nasa or Microsoft? Its not Dumb vs Smart its just Good Guy vs Bad Guy, and often the Bad Guys are smarter .... Reason is to make a game in a engine you need to learn C++ and youre done. For doing Blackhat stuff such as reversing a game, bypassing the ac, hooking into the process AND not getting detected C++ alone is not enough, you need to be absolutely brilliant smart by default because i would guess only 10% of the general coders could pull off something like this sucessfully. So the amount of competent cheat developers is smaller than the game devs, but exactly those cheat developers that can do it at all, are absolute geniuses without exception.

Speaks volumes about the moral code and ethics of people these days.

​@@JerryO1995 Nah, developers are also just people trying to work and make a lving. if at all, it speaks volumes about VALVEs moral code and ethics. Valve is probably the biggest online casino provider for minors and adults and are still too cheap to pay some decent developers or maybe even buy out the head developers out of the Cheatcompanies. Like, Yesterday alone ~900.000 Cases have been opened. With key prices being at 2.50$, thats 2.25 MILLIOn Dollars in revenue for just Keys. Not even included steammarket fees for buying the cases. They literally could retire 2-5 Head-Developers from the best Cheatproviders PER DAY or let them even code the AntiCheat for their own product and removing professional know how out of the cheatcommunity.

@@JerryO1995 not really - anyone can make a cheat and it's not like anyone can go work for valve. I'd bet a lot of the people working on cheats would go to work for valve if they had the chance to. There aren't really any ways to join the cheat fight on the side of the game - the barrier to entry is too high. The only thing you can do is create a new platform to compete with faceit and make your own anticheat. And that's incredibly expensive and tremendously more difficult than making a basic cheat for matchmaking.

@@user-er1fs3je4x no yeah absolutely, one needs application and approval and the other can be a personal side project, but more than that I'm speaking of how many people sell those cheats and how many more actively use them. Because making a cheat for yourself just to learn is not a problem, it's when they earn money from them that I begin to doubt people's ethics.

Yes, we know that from GDPR rules many years ago. Many sad and neglected people on earth, sadly...

wasnt there a poll on csgo subreddit about cheating and it turned out that like 14% were cheating. So 1 in 10 is kinda true

@@nicolas4377 when the new GDPR rules came we got the data from every CS match ever played. The amount of banned cheaters was 10% ish, so yes, sad world we live in:/

Yeah, and if in my city one person earns a billion € a year and 999 don't have a job, the average salary is 1 million € a year. That's not how statistics works mate.

@@nicolas4377 Theres literally free polls and studies available online where people said themself that 50% of People cheated on their Partner. I mean saying oh my god, 14% are cheating in online games is just the tip of the iceberg. Its a society problem and theres even worse crap, we just dont talk about it. This is all i can say to this, everytime im like "everyones cheating in game XY" i always try to remember that basically 50% of the people around us cheated on their partner, so its to be expected that if people even cheat in reallife they will cheat in the internet on games even crazier, so those numbers are still absolutely blatant low imho.

Funny

hey but you can turn the bomb, i´snt that amazing?

@@svens3722insane😮

@@svens3722 have u seen liquid inside molly????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

"cybercrimes" bro cheats development is not a cybecrime. Simple as that. Its not like they'r scaming someone, they develop things that is interacting with 3d party software without anything money-related.

​@@aleksei7564 Look up the Steam Subscriber Agreement. "Steam and the Content and Services may include functionality designed to identify software or hardware processes or functionality that may give a player an unfair competitive advantage when playing multiplayer versions of any Content and Services or modifications of Content and Services ("Cheats"). You agree that you will not create Cheats or assist third parties in any way to create or use Cheats. You agree that you will not directly or indirectly disable, circumvent, or otherwise interfere with the operation of software designed to prevent or report the use of Cheats." They could easily use this in a lawsuit against them, they lose players = they lose money (skins, more copies of the game, etc), but Varraz is right, the US doesn't have jurisdiction in Russia, they're not afraid of showing their faces. Valve just can not do anything if it's all registered in Russia.

@@aleksei7564 They are hacking into CS client, reversing it to find exploits that they can use to make cheats which is against Steam/Valve/CS ToS. Stop glazing them.

@@aleksei7564its a cyber crime similar prosecution to pirating movies but no ones ever prosecuted because international law is iffy on cyber crimes

@@aleksei7564scamming people out of their time

Well said

I agree. It's all well and good saying the cheats are H v H but glossing over the fact their exploit is being used against non hackers.

to be mad at a cheat developer because people cheat in your games is like to be mad at mcdonalds for making people fat because you're sat on a plane the people are always the problem, if not cheating, then toxicity, if not toxicity then no comms, if you do well your team gets adhd and stops holding things to run around try and get kills themselves and die, if you do bad then you get called stupid and messed with. Need to go back to old days with communities and names people remember so no one can be a permanent jackass with cheats or whatever else

hvh is def a new mode but spinning against legits is dumb

it's not bs, I play hvh on 2023 csgo on community servers made specifically for hvh. there's also people who play 2018 hvh. cs2 made hvh boring because of nospread and rapid fire.

Narcicism...

Agree cheaters are losers but almost as much as normal people wasting their life with it are, only people who are not are influencers, pros and cheat providers since they make top 1% income

@@bbqsniper5228 Not true, income doesn't translate to morality and integrity.

@@goofygo0ner Thats not what i said, i was talking about who is the loser here.

almost on par as skin obssesed losers

If it's less than the weekly drops i wouldn't mind too much. But theres no way they would do that

Me also I'm tiered of "smurfs"

why tf woudl that happen

@@KalhebBirkuleif people quit cases will rise so who knows

They should just fix the anticheat and make the game atleast 30dollars. Thats how you fix 95% of it/the casual and people who cheat cause they got cheated on.

The soft cheaters are the most annoying ones...

play face it?

@@Gozo77 Cheaters there to...

@@Smonken nah below 8 lvl there is almost no cheaters

@@Gozo77 sry i dont let companies have control over my pc, there are like, lots of really important things on there, and all it takes is one greedy employee.

I honestly think gabe doesn't care for CS anymore. It's evident by him never attending a CS major, and attending multiple dota majors. He probably sees the entire skin and gambling market as a horrible thing for his company, but at the same time it's the reason Valve is so rich. They've made their money now, so just ditch the game, let it die and at the same time still rake in millions a month from the skin market

CS is not dying though. It's (and will be still) growing... 😉

@@nKrandom not for long

i would like to congratulate drugs for winning the war on drugs

Think the issues goes way deeper than a rational explanation of just having to play some games to understand how it feels. I'm thinking narcsissism / ASPD etc. In order to take a stance like that it appears they have little to no empathy. Coming public about it on top of that shows they're just not properly wired.

​@@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 agreed, i meant in the sense that they have to play the game of presenting it in a way that omits the victims (legit players) as a part of the conversation

It’s not about morality it’s about money and credit in the cheat community these "developers” love hacking for money

@@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 exist online encounter a person engaged in an act i disagree with morally "why would this person do that? narcissism"

I mean the game doesn't care

Actually there is a CS2/csgo matchmaking website for cheaters. At the time of writing this comment, there are zero players queuing or playing the CS2 mode on the website, and 50 people playing csgo mode. The platform is there, but cheaters will always prefer official matchmaking for multiple reasons. 1. The anticheat:. As ironic as it sounds, many cheaters will prefer to play on VAC secured servers, because it doesnt allow specific features of cheats to be used, and those features are usually extremely annoying or overpowered. 2. Easier competition: Simmilar to how it is with MM/Faceit for legits, people on matchmaking are less skilled than on dedicated website for competitive play. Hvh actually does require a fair bit of skill (it required more in csgo, but cs2 hvh still does have skill involved, especially map knowledge)(If you want to argue about this, i will be more than happy to let you play on a 25k elo account with my cheat and my settings and watch you struggle to get even 1KD while being surprised that it is possible to wallbang from CT spawn to connector on Mirage, or from CT spawn to T spawn on vertigo etc etc) 3. The ranking system: People like a sense of progression and seeing some numbers change according to their wins/losses, having something to fight for. Even though the dedicated hvh website does have a ranking system, it is in my (and many others) opinion pretty bad and the games are usually very one-sided. Valve does the ranking system better, achieving balanced hvh games. If u got any more questions i will gladly awnser.

He talk about hvh not cheating against legit

@maopo196 yeah we understand. They don't play the game, the soft does. It's ridiculous.

@@CuzZ_Lightyear you obviously have no idea what hvh is

​@@pseudoendotrizine just pathetic don't need hvh just stop fucking hacking and play the game normal at your own skill lvl wanna get good practice more y'all cheaters straight suck and shit alot of people could be making good money from video games rn but cuz if cheaters it's extremely difficult to stand out lmao cuz everyone is cheating

Imagine spinbotting and still losing lmao

@@LeumazDnazor Divine intervention. We were lucky the guy got disconnected during the round and reconnected again, but that meant we had to end it there and then.

japanese servers are infested with chinese cheaters lmao

Ok make one for FACEIT and lmk how it goes lil bro

​@@xxxzzzzxxxwhat is your goal here? for context I do have the technical expertise (computer engineer) to shim the memory controller so with enough energy and a pcb spin I could make something 100% undetectable to face it. Secondly, I am confident that with my own software I wouldn't get caught on face it for a while, regardless of doing some hardware solution. The only reason face it can catch cheaters is because the number of people playing on their servers is small. So they can spend more time inspecting. Kernel level anti cheat does not add much. Do your research instead of just pouting that face it has a good anti cheat. I played competitive cs for decades and there were always still cheaters in esea and face it. Windows offers all the same hooks in user space. unknown cheats has all the pointers up to date for cs. And in the advent of ai undetectable trigger bots will be the norm in any fps. maybe i'll get around to it because of dumb shitters like you :D

@@xxxzzzzxxx why you calling him lil bro as if thats not possible

@@bant3565 he thinks every game is the same crap as EFT or CS2 mm

@@xxxzzzzxxx he didnt even mention it, the faceit glazing is wild

Its kind of a no-brainer. You could ask any legitimate cs player to testify that this drains motivation like nothing else. There is nothing nobel about cheats what so ever. If they did not have stupid intentions they would not even be trying to bypass VAC. They are free to, and have always been, play on nonvac servers. They choose to enter the clean servers, they are not forced. Anyone with massive hours in cs will have played with cheats at some point. And thats fine. As long as you dont play in a VAC server which implies rules. Heck the game even supports the most basic cheats itself - if the server allows it.

I do have a hope that im analyzing the situation correctly when I think that this timeline with very low anti cheat effort is actually on purpose. They are collecting data to train their AI anti cheat model, and as such, you want to be 100% sure that there is zero false positives - which is why they are just letting the AC be as it is for now. You can then after the fact look at the data and identify data that points to obvious superhuman skill - even use the data itself to set a good threshold - because the data will probably reveal a gap between legit players distribution of time to dmg , for example. But before you have a good sample size, setting these variables would be pretty random and incur a lot of work to backtrack wrongful bans. So what we are seeing is hopefully valve intenionally, for the sake of efficiency and also performance, going down this route until the AI model is good enough to actually get deployed. Succes of an AI model = Data quality and size x processing power. To my knowledge they are actively building the processing power to analyse the games as they are being played. And also train the model.

Don't be dramatic. Valve won't let cs die lol

@@scerball6282 Is sure as hell seems like it

​@@scerball6282 Ppl said the same shit with TF2 and, well. right now, CS is walking slowly through his die if this shit don't change

​@@scerball6282Can I borrow some of your copium supply?

CS has died more times than I can count, and has always came back stronger. CSgo at launch was 10 times worse than CS2 is

you just had really bad trust, in csgo according to leetify i was facing more cheaters than 95% of users and had a cheater every 30 games

@@Raulxz This is the number of people caught. If you remember correctly there is free cheats undetected for 2 years onwards. You had to be moronic to get caught. I stopped playing cs, but i today checked again. I played against a spinbotter in wingman 4 months ago. This guy is playing every day and is still spinbotting and not banned. 15ms time to damage, 5% counter strafing. I just tracked this guy but played with atleast 60 cheaters in my last premiers. Those where people i was 100% sure, and most of them where on my own team. Dont be delusional. I switched to single player games and soulslikes and i am finally happy. Fuck CS

@@krakatoa542 brother im telling you from the games i played in go, barely any cheaters and i was top 5% in cheaters met.

just played one premier match after playing faceit, 100% agree. sad to see this game dying because of this. ill quit after 15 yrs cs if they will not fix this in near future.

"Competetive CS is dead", well there is nothing to compete with in the first place. Its just a boring rank. Unless there is money on the line

OK bye 🤣👋

there will always be ppl who don’t talk or just don’t care, you either find good mates that u know in real life, or good randoms you add or u play solo

@@sannii2222 sure but its all about statistical average which decides about the overall game experience. In comparison to faceit, premiere is unplayable right now.

What about smallhat? 🤔

​@@KeksimusMaximus do those small hats coincidentally have large noses? Do they also happen to thrive off of chaos and disorder world wide?

is a grayhat yellow?

@@sun3k I guess so

of couse there are nazis in onepixels comments, what a surprise

100k views on most likely video for hvh league. LOL

@@skit.gamesensi wat

😂

It's not uncommon to want to be in low ranks just to fuck around better.

no way💀💀💀

Hahaha you were rigth there is 2 of them

there are always a few guys like that, like if they dont want him to pause and actually give his input and react to the video they should just go watch the video alone... its so stupid

@@oooooba8343 like you say, they dont understand, that Ohne have to talk about this with his chat. Dont think so, that if he would watch for 40 minits and didnt talk about it, i think 50% of viewers will quit because its boring. They come because Ohne and not because they will watch with Ohne 1 video. :D But i hate it too, if Ohne Pause in 5 min video like 20 times and talk bullshit, its same hate. :D

Bro you're a real G🤙💔😂

Holy shit haven't heard about CEVO in ages

what are you saying cs has no leaderboard? xd premier is kind of a leaderboard to get seen in top world or top countries lol

I'm 37, so I grew up on cs 1.5 and 1.6, and I think it's the culture around certain games being hard. We had cheaters back then, but games were so much harder back then it was normal. As time has gone on, a lot of games, especially single player are just extremely easy, even on hard mode, so when people get into a game like CS, they can't handle how hard it is, so they cheat. Weird take I know, but think of how hard games were 20 years ago, most of them were really hard to complete, nowadays, apart from the odd games like dark souls, everything is super easy. People are so spoilt nowadays, they have to cheat to feel good about themselves. Gone are the days of grinding and working towards something, dying hundreds of times to actually achieve the end goal

No Im saying Helldivers 2 has no leaderbord so theres no reason to cheat.

​@@Silverwidowsbig difference between 1.6 and csgo and cs2 is that 1.6 was all community owned and there was always admin to watch over the games and if somebody was cheating or whatever he would get banned instantly, also cheats were way more primitive so it wasnt hard to spot a cheater, and also most of people on server would know each other irl and if somebody was cheating he was making a disgrace for his actual name and also was at risk of getting his data leaked which was way more scary back then then it is now, with way higher chance that somebody will fk him up irl

@@fistrexx admins ? Yes maybe in the high tier community, but for everybody else it was the wild west. Also I cant help but have a little fun about your statement growing up myself on the danish scene, we have had so many cases of long term good players , getting exposed. And early 00's , yes we had admins an such if it was some tournament, but their integrity and skill was a dice throw. I even remember examples of teams getting banned because the loosers was so well connected, insisting that the other team was cheating, so the admins ended up just bowing without finding proof. It was not all roses and handshake back then. When someone in the top tier of the scene was getting attention, they would usually force them to come play on lan, in a netcafe or something. But again, one of the best players I know , has been caught 3 times for cheating in official games. He is a moron, yes, but without the cheats he is still top 1% of the top 1%. He is just so weakly minded sometimes - while having the hardest grinderheart I know of. Correct me if im wrong. But to my memory, before these "wall hacked maps" existed, many good players was playing nuke deliberately with wallhacks - and it showed in normal games, they kind of started the extreme era of wallbanging on nuke. They knew every wallbang spot because of playing like this for fun. I remember one of the first times I played with my cousin who had been doing this - it was ridiculous - you could hardly take any route without getting spammed. Pretty quickly it spread, and soon after came the maps with see through walls.

They can play both sides, pretend like they're upgrading ac and still make cheats so now you have 4 times their normal income, not mentioning the fact that they can intentionally downgrade it so their cheat works better, valve can't make sure that they will discontinue their hacks, people are greedy.

Plot twost these cheat devs work for valve. Make insane profits. Win win.

yeah gta did that for a while and still i think

Cheaters don't want to play against other people that cheat. They want to dominate.

@@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 yeah and maybe they f*ck off then...

I started cheating in csgo 2015, since then i only played hvh, because its more competetive as just running over non cheaters​@@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068

@@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 they actually do want to play against other cheaters

You know they can mute you lol

@@justadude8716 Nah i do it too, me and my teammates do everything to block and grief them, recently i made our team lose a match by griefing the cheater and not letting him play

@@justadude8716 yeah but they never do

​@@somaannn you're doing God's work my guy

@@somaannn What do you think the cheater wanted? Simply to win? When doing this you have to realize that you're likely just doing what they want even if you think you are inconveniencing them. They love attention, you're giving more to them than they would get otherwise.

even in lower ranks there so much cheaters .

I just played against a guy with 8k elo. He has about 200hrs in the game and he loads 4 hs with scout every round. Probably a newbie who learns fast

@@user-bh4zt6uy1i talented gamer

I have 4k hours and im 4k rated. F yall haxer fabbots. Wasted so much time 😢

🤑

they are always on vacation march/april in Hawai,, They say its their biggest priority right now.. so lets hope it really good when it comes.. 🤞🤞

TRUE !! booth mad and sad at the same time,, bro how hard can it be to get a grip on a anticheat...

bro i wish i could, i invested 7K and it's already down to 3-4K 💀 Im betting on CS2 now, either they fix it, and my skins are gonna go back to 7k one day, and otherwise ima just lose it all. fuck it.

Buy when others are fearful, treat it like the stock market ;)

@@Sukz0r lol dubious advice given that the underlying asset here has no intrinsic value

also they still have no excuse for the state the game is in when they have the money they do and the time they spend ESPECIALLY when the game, maps, weapons and balance have already been made for them. Valve is lazy. This is coming from someone who is in the 3D industry and has made hundreds of models, characters, and animations. over 5 years, billions of dollars in revenue, and the game's already been made. There is no excuse.

also garry's mod's successor, sandbox, uses source2 and gives anyone access to source 2's toolset and has had plenty of public betas that last for months at a time.

You got a link to the source?

Yeah can youre share the paper please?

@@roelo1000 its not in english so idk if it would be useful to you

Depends on a game. WoW botting is cheating, and it's obviously being done for monetary gain.

@@ForOne814 What's the monetary gain in WoW? Selling the max leveled character for real money, right? That's cheating by the *buyers* that don't want to play the game but for some reason still want to buy a fully leveled character. The bot operators just work for the eventual *buyer* who is willing to pay to cheat.

@@MikkoRantalainen selling gold. And it's not cheating by the buyers, because you can buy gold from Blizzard, just for more money.

People are desperate. Hence they tend to _only_ focus on what can reduce cheater numbers. But in their desperation they ignore the potential severe collateral damage of some of those methods. Even if you "just" make CS2 €30 per account, which might disincentivize a handful of cheaters from creating infinite new accounts, the number of actually normal, casual players you simultaneously drive away from the game is ENORMOUS. Especially since we're talking about a free-to-play game. Even if it was only €5 once in a lifetime, you could lose _hundreds of thousands_ of potential future players, if not more. And that's BEFORE taking into consideration that people who already pay a certain sub fee for their cheat software, even if it's "only" $19, as mentioned in the video, are much more likely to accept that than legit F2P players. In the end, this could very well lead to a _higher_ ratio of cheaters to normal people instead of the other way around. Not to mention the massively decreased overall player base which would have a severe effect on stuff like the skin market, queue times, general popularity, probably even interest in the esports branch. All of that for MAYBE keeping a fraction of the cheating population away.

im pretty sure this isn't soufiw or any of the other NL devs since they are russians and probably wouldn't expose themselves

Probably aimware

@@din_pappa It's A47 aka Anarch1st47 and aVitomin they are actually neverlose staff members

@@xavier4542it’s neverlose lol aimware isn’t Russian

i dont know why they didnt say that

No because the best cheat is public and nearly everyone uses it, so its really about how you use it and how you play. Even with the best cheat you can still get smoked by others if they know how to play right

it's only interesting for the people who make the cheats, to go up against themselves. For everyone else, even people who buy the cheats, I have no idea what the appeal is

In csgo there where full Community Servers where you Played 20 vs 20, stopped playing before cs2 released so idk how it is now

I think detecting and not banning cheaters but pitting them against each other making them have worse games without knowing why is exactly how u ruin most cheaters reason to buy cheats (clap others)

Exactly, so he knows how cheats works internally and how to counter them. Which is why Vanguard is up there as one of the best anti-cheat of all time.

Just like in real life, criminals that are really expert about some subject, they wont get arrested. They get hired.

man the replies Lol, We all know Mr Doc is selling cheats, but hey, let them act like npcs

@@P1mmsCS lol, its bypassed already.

@@erraldstyler every AC in history is bypassed. but those cheats get patched out literally within a day most of the time lmao.

They ONLY care about skins. It's so over

fr

Nah, terrible idea

In order to HWID ban someone you still need to detect them.... Also, hwid spoofers exist

every game uses HWID bans, they arent hard to bypass

you should write a book about it you pooron

seems pretty good to me but I came in after they fixed a bunch of stuff

@@DoNotFearTheReapa its horrible bring back csgo.

u just couln't play 6000 hours in cs2, 90% of your game time u did in csgo, so u call csgo shit game? But in one u are right, play ~6000 hours in good game and in the end u get this shitty cs2 where anticheat have been disabled for months

Other than anti-cheat name 5

cs2 > csgo in every way other than cheater issue. CSS is still better than both tho

I guess you didn't watch whole video. They were talking about VACnet AI learning cheats through players behavior and. Thats why some of the clean player cases with high sensitivity spinning around "goofing" were getting banned

@@tatuetelainen9358 I did watch the entire video. I still stand by what I said, valves priority is making money through skins and not through making a good anti-cheat. They are getting better with their anti-cheat as of late but it was not their priority this entire time. When thirdparties have a better anti-cheat than the actual official game, it truly says something about their priorities.

the fact they seem to actually have more faith in valve to fix it than anyone who actually plays

How is source 2 worse? 🤣🤣 Valve did more with 10 developer team than other companies with hundreds of developers

Wanna taste it?

bunch of losers xD.

Fr, cheaters gaslight themselves so hard into thinking they're not just a pathetic loser

Neverlose is a HVH cheat

of course it is about hvh neverlose(their cheat) is designed to play HvH, there's A LOT of legit cheats that are MUCH cheaper and allow you easily win fair players

how can you pretend to be good with neverlose if its a rage cheat? it doesnt even have a legitbot

@@pseudoendotrizine everyone in matchamaking uses or acts like they use neverlose. so its clear that its not just a HvH cheat.

People using it for sure but developers for cheats are bosses and earning a lot of money

If there is a demand there will ALWAYS be who makes it and sells it

@@hotpot328 and they will always be losers

They are fukin rich, not losers.

@@eaStudioHD money is just a means to an end. doesnt make you any less of a loser.

Oh boy, you don't know what crazy fans are capable of do you...

cs is generationally popular and its not hard for me to imagine an addicted, very mentally ill cs player coming for them. especially in russia where the majority of the playerbase is (11.5% of all players). id never open myself up to that opportunity but theyre obviously not very smart people with big egos

first time in this world i see?

These fkin replies 😂😂😂 those guys will be fine, y'all just coping. Most Russians are cheaters anyway so instead they would get much support

You must not know the HvH scene. I was in it from 2017-2022. If you didn't have decent opsec, you would get doxed, swatted, sim swapped over literally nothing

Your queue time would be insanely high.. look at valorants player base vast majority don’t give a shit how intrusive it is. I’d say a lot of cs players downloaded valorant at some point too.

Also to add to this forcing kernel level anti cheat on everyone also raises the level of the cheats that get developed. They become harder to spot and time consuming to deal with. There are trade-offs and people thinking kernel anti-cheat is a silver bullet don't understand the scope of the problem. Cheaters have exist for so long that another client side anti cheat won't fully fix the broblem. It is an option to considered, however.

Giving your ID / Kernel access IS the way to do it. I can only see cheaters crying "I rather not give permission to a program to ..." Bro just shut ur ass up, your using cheats in a videogame, who the fk wants to know about you and your sad, pathetic life?

@@kokochichibro Valorant at most has people with arduinos and shitty color aimbots, almost everyone with an internal paid a couple hunnid and will get banned in no time

yes

Nah no way thats soufiw

@@Vurse168 its a47 and avitomin, they are both nl staff

then maybe idk.... go watch the original video without ohne???? Since you know? Its also on youtube. I never understood these dumbass comments. If you are gonna claim you watch this for ohne's reaction, than don't complain about him pausing, cuz he needs to do that to react. But if not, then WATCH THE ORIGINAL FUCKING VIDEO.

youre silly bro, part of the problem is just how easy it is. elite cheaters who will buy dma cards and other things are only a small percent, but cs attracts people who want to cheat for fun/troll because its so easy and they just dont get banned. at its core its similar to suicide prevention, if you make it harder to access, the numbers WILL go down

@@narwhalguy3829 kernel level anti cheats are just a gateway to wrecking everyone who plays your game when your company gets hacked. Also EAC and BE are not kernel. People already hack on faceit but they tend to get caught thru players seeing it and them actually banning people. A kernel anti cheat does nothing but makes it so your hack has to be kernel level too, which is also a security risk (albeit to the hacker not the normal people lol) Also Valves AI anti cheat isnt done yet.

​@@1e0isfdkorblpgvac net was an ai anti cheat and it was ass

Battleye also works with community owners to ban known exploiters in game level script issues

@@narwhalguy3829Elite losers. Ftfy

Yeah ohnepixel is delusional and blind for this. So many bugs they don't even care atleast you can open cases. I have 6k hours too and can't even play my fav game mode which is kz because they fked this game

He just cares that skins look prettier

brb gonna open a case to make y'all mad

opened a recoil case and got the cheapest blue (ump roadblock). It's battle scarred too. Easiest loss of $2.50 🤤

I bet half of them are plain stupid

I would provide my ID if it means that cheaters are banned forever

This is a good point to consider. Solutions that work 100% can't really exist and all systems have trade offs. I feel the same way that I would not personally give my ID for making cheating riskier, but others would do that. Online games and cheating are a hard problem to solve and the current situation does suck for a lot of players. Have to hope Valve is cooking up a server side cheater detection that could work long term.

I would just do something more worth my time at that point.

@@kokochichi People in China / Korea already use others identification etc to work around it. Doesn't work

@@1e0isfdkorblpg That is true. No solution will work completely. This is one of the reasons I would not give my ID for gaming, I don't really trust I would solve the problem enough and I don't care that much about competetive gaming.

Yea but people dont want literally install spyware just for an anti-cheat. Valorant literally harvests things like your facebook friend data

lol go touch some grass please

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XDDD. Ok go play on inspect server

Bro hes in russia, no one is gonna go arrest him 😂

bro nah that’s not how stealing or the law works LMAO if that case won it would open up an entirely new can of worms

ohne's chat is the most cringest shit i ever seen. They even laughed at HvH League idea. Welp, I see they really enjoy being scanned thru many walls every game idk

i guess you find it relatable

@@JeloOW he seems oddly insecure about the way people perceive cheaters

I really hit the nerve of few twitch chatters huh

hey, cool opinion! the fact is, they still develop cheats and looks don't matter - the filth of a cheater doesn't wash off :)

i think they should combine this approach with overwatch - you can’t ban them outright because there are bound to be teething problems with legitimate players doing wallbangs and setting up before a peek, but they should do something like this and send them straight into a high priority overwatch queue or something similar.