+Abaris84 The dislikes are for the host. Thankfully, he doesn't get many videos. Sci Show seems to be hoping that viewers will eventually forget what a moron he is.
+piranha031091 Not necessarily. He didn't even say which planet it was. Just planets in general. And did that illustration look like it was trying to be accurately proportioned to you?
"HOW we figured out that earth goes around the sun?" "Copernicus did it" Ok, that is common knowledge, but HOW did he do it?! No need to be afraid that people won't understand you.
+Gabriel Rej Thomas Kuhn wrote an excellent and very readable book about "the copernican revolution". It's called "the copernican revolution" (no surprise there, lol) and your library can probably get it for you. Or you can download it online. It's a really well known classic.
+Gabriel Rej Honestly, Ptolemy knew things were simpler to explain both with a heliocentric model and with ellipses. The observations needed to establish a elliptical heliocentric model have been around since at least Ptolemy. Ptolemy simply thought that the inherent elegance of a geocentric model that used perfect circles was the way things should work. His models are actually better predictors of the bodies' motions than Copernicus' models. Copernicus simply took all the observations Ptolemy had made and said, let's just use a heliocentric model to explain it, it's simpler. He still wanted circles, and he didn't do as good a job as Ptolemy in using epicycles to match the observations. That's basically the how, Copernicus just said, let's use the simpler model for all these observations we have. And he botched it a bit.
+Nowan Inparticular if you look at the 'observable' universe or the hubble sphere, particle horizon or whatever, technically we're all the centre of our own universe :o
+theFINNISHmonster1 On the contrary, it was religious scholars who maintained, copied and translated books after the fall of Rome, and without their contribution we would have fallen even further behind than we did. What really fucked us over was tribalism. An invading group would burn and destroy all the culture, art and literature, deeming it all unworthy of being kept around. You can still see tribalism at work today as different groups deem one medium or another "problematic." I'm not saying the church was innocent, though. Religious leaders were definitely some of the most corrupt and damaging figures in history, but credit is due to those who preserved texts that we still enjoy today. Of course, all these points are moot after the printing press. =P
Gamesman01 That's a cute story, but the Library of Alexandria was sacked many times throughout history including the Christians, Muslims and polytheistic Romans.
Lutranereis True but the christians were the ones who did it for the purpose of burning any written knowledge because they believed it was against god's will. Those early christians were pretty crazy. They even believed bathing was decadent so they never bathed.
So if the earth / sun isn't the center of the universe, then what is? Interestingly enough, the center of the universe is literally you! (The center of the observable universe is exactly the thing that does the measurement)
CorwynGC Well sure, from the perspective of most of the pictures we look at, the center is the telescope. But you're also doing the same measurements, and from your perspective, the center of the universe is you.
Stephen Kamenar I can't see anything that would allow me to make that calculation. The farthest thing I can see is probably Andromeda a mere 2.5 million light years away. 5 orders of magnitude off.
+CorwynGC I think you still get the point. The center from hubble's perspective is hubble, and the center from your perspective is you, and the "real" center doesn't exist, you need a perspective.
Long before Copernicus & Kepler, there was Aristarchus of Samos (310-230 BC) who held a heliocentric view and also claimed that the stars were actually distant suns. However, it seems his concept was wrongly defamed because of a translation error of Plutarch geocentric work apparently criticized those with a heliocentric view as "sun-worshipper."
As it turns out however, Earth does not orbit around the Sun : tychos.info The heliocentric model of Copernicus / Kepler cannot account for the so-called "precession of the equinoxes". Therefore, it HAS to be discarded as a plausible configuration of our solar system. In the TYCHOS model, the precession of the equinoxes is simply caused by Earth's motion around its own orbit - located within the binary system composed of the Sun and Mars.
How self-centred does one have to be to believe that the universe literally revolves around us lol :p Edit: Okay as a couple of people are taking my post a bit seriously, I'll just confirm that it was in jest, lol; I was kidding. :)
+Tasha Marie Its not self centered, its just the level of intellect at the time and the given evidence which was everything rotating us. Its the best they had back then..
+Tasha Marie I guess, it might even be a bit in our nature. The only thing, we really feel, is ourselves. We never leave our own body or our own self. The world we experience is made up of the environment and our social rules and peers. So it seems rather natural, that "early" humans / civilisations came to the conclusion, that everything revolves around themselves.
So it's about 500 years since Copernicus, imagine the idea of heliocentricity was formed some 1.800 years before him by Aristarchus of Samos. The 200 BCE "Antikythera mechanism" is also based on the heliocentric model. Mind blowing.
@@Daz912 the observations of Kepler are pretty conclusive about that. You'd need separate forces for each planet and their movements, while the general concept of the heliocentric model relies only on gravity keeping the planets in order, through Ockhan' Razor it should be the more reasonable explanation. Plus, acknowledging the geocentric model, the planets, stars and other bodies would have to be moving at significant fractions of lightspeed.
@@Daz912 Kepler was a contemporary to Newton, he observed that the planets move faster when they find themselves closer to the Sun, even though exact measurements wouldn't be taken until the 1800s he worked with geometric proportions based on whatever distance to the Sun the Earth has - ie, the Astronomical Unit.
No it wasn’t, what are you talking about? Every source I’ve found says that the Antikythera Mechanism is based on Ptolemaic principles, which is geocentric.
What I don't get, is why you call Arab scholars Muslim scholars. Do you call Greek scholars Hellenistic scholars too? Or European scholars Christian scholars?
+dapperedavid Well firstly because they weren't all arabs, there were persians, indians and turkish (ottoman) muslims that had strong contributions to astronomy as well. Secondly Islam is positioned very closely toward astronomy as all prayers and Islamic events occur based on the Lunar calendar :)
Matthew Prorok Okay, so if they were for instance Persian, why not call them Persian scholars? Or just call them all Middle Eastern scholars? Or just call them by name?
Because Islam was a critically important part of the culture during the aptly named Islamic Golden Age. Large parts of the world, from the Middle East to Indonesia to Northern Africa to Spain, were thoroughly Islamized, even if they weren't Arabized. And unlike most other religions, Islam drove developments in astronomy and mathematics because its doctrines were intimately tied to accurate calculations of direction on the surface of Earth and the timings of celestial phenomena. Which is why you have stars named things like Aldebaran and Algol, and mathematical terms like algebra and algorithm.
If Earth traveled around the sun, at the same time as traveling around the infinite universe, how come we see the same stars at night through out the year?
@@Diamondraw4Real I thought you might have half a brain of twigs to rub together but no i see. Your video is %100 CGI that's how low IQ you are! Seaman have been using the same stars since the start of mankind and there are 1000's of videos showing how NO MATTER THE SEASON WAKE UP! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Bh5kHTBr0gU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XWLZKmPU17M.html
@@jessicalynnwaite822 I understand the firmament, you say the "firmament moves." I disagree I say the "firmament is immovable and the lights within it are moving."
This video did not present any scientific facts at all. He just narrated history of people who studied/hypothesize but still have not proven anything. Also, cameras/telescope are already available but why not one actual photo/video to show the earth real image. Why all CGI?
Yrl0 Padski, To piggy back on your point, don't we have the technology to just measure the Earth? If we can fly 238,000 miles away through killer radiation belts in tin cans, we should be able to boat or fly all the way around this so called sphere to get an actual measurement.
Ariff Umbreon, Actually, NASA says they are not actual photos, I'm sure you have read their descriptions of how the data is sent in strips and they have to piece it together... Right? Something's wrong, they are given A LOT of money, why not just take actual pictures. It was very frustrating when I set out to prove how stupid flat Earth is just to realize that actual proof is extremely hard to come by. NASA is doing all this to themselves. Listen to the orion interviews, they talk like we haven't been to the moon already??!!!?!?!! Proof for round Earth is as scarce as proof of evolution, it's crazy I thought evidence was going to be everywhere since I've been told this stuff since young childhood.
This is the least informative debunk video I've ever seen. It was a brief history lesson in how people have always gotten it wrong (the smartest people on the planet always getting it wrong), with a minor nod to Muslims having smarter smart people than "western" societies, like Greece.
Wrong, the fallen angels taught us astrology. This is why the north star is always north because we move slowly, very slowly and the planets move slowly but in astrology, the planets and sun revolve around the earth.
Yep! That part at the end showing the Sun's barycenter (center of mass) with respect to our neighboring planets . . . That's the "star's wobble". That's how you can find exoplanets, using the radial velocity method, as the light spectrum coming from the star changes due to Doppler shift as the star orbits its barycenter. But, it usually only works well for Jovian planets, though.
"It looks like the stars and planets move around the earth ...as long as you don't look too closely" This arrogance is tiresome. Heliocentrism might be the correct model but it's far from an obvious conclusion. And the average arrogant science geek would have a tough time explaining the motion of the night sky without reference to the work that other people have done" We stand on the shoulders of giants. We ought to treat our ancestors with a bit of respect, instead of dismissing them as gullible idiots.
How does the fact that we only see constellations during the night prove that the earth revolves around the sun? Also, even though rotation and not revolution causes the seasons, does the length of one seasonal cycle, a year, prove that the earth revolves around the sun?
What we "know" is 99% what we have been taught (told). When we were taught that the earth was the center of the universe, we believed it - and so thought that we "knew" it. Later, when we were taught that the sun was the center of our universe, we believed it - and so thought that we "knew" it. Very, very few of us can claim that we - in our own experience - know what's going on. I would really imagine that, in the future, the heliocentric theory will come to be considered obsolete. What will come after heliocentrism. Why don't we ever find this discussed?
No no no no no, We didn't "knew" it just because they told us, we "knew" it because it makes the most sense. (why are we putting quotation marks on knew?) So, back then when we believed in geocentrism, it's because it makes the most sense, like "ahh, so the earth is in the center of the universe, and all the other planets and the sun orbits us, that makes sense" but then problems started showing up with geocentrism, like when venus started moving in reverse.. "wait venus isn't suppose to do that??" so they made some modifications with geocentric model.. "ah i see.. now it makes sense" and then problems started showing up again, like "why did venus' brightness change? does it have phases like the moon? it's not suppose to do that, it doesn't make any sense!" so they made some modifications.. again.... "ah... i see? now it makes sense???) they keep repeating this agin and again because problems keeps popping up and then the geocentric model became really really complicated. then the heliocentrism showed up. "ah, it solved all the problems the geocentric model has, and it's so much simpler!!" and by ocam's razor we know that the simpler explanation is correct most of the time. and then telescopes were invented, and we can now see the other planets much clearer now, and we can record them more accurately. - and now at present time, we now have satellites and telescopes located outerspace easily confirming that the sun is at the center of the solar system and to answer your question, we don't discuss this because we don't know the future, if we humans made discoveries in the FUTURE that disproves what we consider as fact NOW. Then the future humans will be taught of this discovery. we already know that nothing is forever, everything changes... oh well, if you somehow finished reading this, then thank you for your time.
Theres 100% proof that the earth is the center of the universe ,this guy is stating what he was told without doing anything to prove what he was told . The guy that that changed what we already knew back in those days was a Satanist hiding God from the public.
+1lightheaded If the game is to credit people with ideas, yes it kinda does matter, because Copernicus was willfully more wrong than his sources yet he's the one typically credited. If it's about understanding reality, no, because things are true independent of who says what.
And this is what's going to happen to what we now call God. Hopefully in a few hundred years or less we'll realize that everything we believe to be true was just work of ancient and primitive humans, that for whatever reason, many still believe now.
I was looking forward to an in depth look from a purely scientific perspective but again I feel the history of science being lost to western prejudice. You touched briefly on some muslim scholars who were questioning geocentric models but then went on to say heliocentric studies were banned by "The Church" until 1758, that's pertinent information and all yet I wonder when did the Muslim world accept those new views? And what about Aristarchus of Samos?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism As you can read, muslims did a fair bit of astronomy, which was actually credited in Coopernicus work! What this show completely left out was the Indian and maybe Egyptian astronomers.
"Figured out"? You mean "decided." Mathematically, it's entirely correct to regard the sun as orbiting the Earth or the Earth orbiting Pluto or the whole solar system orbiting a flea on a dog's back. Choose whatever you find useful to call the center, and you'll be right. In fact that's what the folks at NASA do when launching a space probe. The calculations are easier with a geocentric model.
And of course Eratosthenes of Cyrene , who measured the circumference of the Earth. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristarchus_of_Samos
Well, we don't know that for sure, but i mentioned him because his work was written after Aristarchus but also prior to Claudius Ptolemy which his work Almagest (or Syntaxis Mathematica known in Latin), was detrimental to the Heliocentric theory, which still was debatable at that time.
The earth IS the center of the universe! Just look out in space. Everything is moving away from us! if we backtrack the expansion of space WE are the center! the big bang started right where earth is right now! =D so there you have it. We are the center! if you use this method on mars it will make mars the center. And the same with every other planet. Minor detail. the point is. The earth is the center!
There is no Big Bang Big Bang was made up so evolution could exist there are no planets no such thing as planets there isthere's a dumb above us we don't move the sun and the moon orbits around the earth and wake up everybody stopping stupid
Johannes Kepler, used Tycho's astronomical data to develop his three laws of planetary motion. Tycho Brahe used his astronomical data to prove the geocentric model, he died early. Both models are mathematically correct and neither can be disproven. Go to NASA's website, they use the geocentric model to plan their probe trips in the solar system because the math is easier.
canadiankewldude You can work with a (mathematically) geocentric model, but if you actually want to understand why the planets follow the paths they do then your (physical) model is heliocentric, because gravity is behind it.
Mathematically, a geocentric model works just fine with the center of mass being in the earth. There is no way to disprove ether model, mathematically. Using gravity.
The funny part, is that even though Greeks believed in this geocentric model 2 thousand years ago, they considered Earth round and even predicted its diameter pretty close.
the tone of this video confused me. it's like he was trying to convince us....who alive right now watching this video needs convincing that the earth is not the center of the universe
+unepommeverte17 You clearly haven't been on the internet for a really long time. If you really want to get angry at people, go here: www.reddit.com/r/Flat_Earth/
This video couldn't have a better timing. Just this morning I read an article about how some students in my country have no clue that the Earth orbits the sun. And I'm not talking about just any students. These students are studying to become class teachers. They've gone through high school already god damn it. I'm a little worried to be honest.
+Snare Religion is constantly throwing dirt on science. Religious people are over skeptical of science. Ironic seeing as they are not skeptical *at all* of their bullshit religion.
Agreed. However I don't think that religion is to blame in this case since Finnish youth is getting less and less religious. At least according to my experiences. I suspect that this is just plain ignorance. On 1st grade of elementary school they teach us about this. Heck, I even knew this way before I learned to read simple words. I'm afraid that people are more interested in what kind of clothes they should wear tomorrow than what's going on in the world and outside of it.
Snare Well, old people in general do not know much about space. Like, at all. And on top of that, Fox "News" is blurring the line between ignorant fear mongering and plain stupidity.
I'm not really concerned about elders and their beliefs. If their paradigm gives them relief, let them have it I'd say. The young ones are more informed by education yet still some remain ignorant. I honestly think that updating the general education style might have a great influence on our youngsters and therefore our future societies. A common teenager just doesn't give a shit. I didn't, back when I was in high school. My interest in astronomy and geology didn't arouse until I was way older. Thanks to channels like this I can get information easily and in a fun way. This is how education should work. This is how knowledge should be spread. Not by forcing teenagers to read hundreds of pages of some tedious text which they will forget as soon as the exams are returned. Without interest there can be no real understanding. Without understanding there can be no real learning.
Snare Elders are actually important because they indoctrinate their children. Most people believe what their parents tell them. People that are intelligent are able to break free from those delusions, but most people are slaves to their upbringing. If we are going to change the next generation of children, we can't ignore the adults.
It is only fair to point out that Copernicus had precursors to his Heliocentric universe in the works of Islamic scholars and explicitly cites them in _De revolutionibus_ .
Newton's model for gravitation works whether you are working geocentrically or heliocentrically though, it's just way more complex to come up with a convincing proof for planets orbiting the sun if you do it with funny frames of reference
Galileo's observation of the phases of Venus wasn't consistent with the Ptolemaic (geocentric) model, but it _was_ consistent with the Tychonic model, in which the planets orbited the Sun, which orbited the Earth (along with the Moon). This was apparently consistent with all observations and did not predict stellar parallax, which had not been observed. There was, in fact, little scientific reason to prefer the Copernican (heliocentric) model to the Tychonic one until the observation of stellar aberration in 1729. Videos like this make it out to be a war between science and religion. In reality, science as we think of it today didn't really exist, and astronomical theories were inextricably linked to, and were considered a part of, philosophy. Nevertheless, the astronomers did follow the evidence for the most part, with minds shifting relatively quickly in response to new observations.
+EebstertheGreat The Neo Tychonic Model of Geocentrism accounts for both Stellar Parallax and Stellar Aberration. The Earth is undoubtedly static and the center of the universe as modern science has proven with observations and laboratory experiments. Axis of Evil
+Mr Sniffles I'd give that a B-, except that Flat EEGers think the sun and moon move in circular/elliptical/drunk-guy-staggering-around-the-pool-table paths _above_ the Earth. Even they are smart enough to get that if the sun orbited _around_ the Earth, some people would have to see the sun rise in the north, move due south across the sky, and set in the south while people across the disk from them would see it go south-to-north.
MrYAY100 his calculations also suggest that earth is flat and that the sun is at a fixed altitude above the surface. Works both ways genius. Doesn't prove one or the other. I'll draw you a picture or even do an experiment for you to show how it works on our FLAT EARTH if your feeble mind still doesn't comprehend. If you want more proof that the earth doesn't spin or rotate or move in any way whatsoever, research the experiment called Airy's Failure. Earth doesn't move, therefore it is flat and the sun is moving causing the day/night cycle.
arnab som Many people. If you research the subject starting maybe with Wikipedia's Eratosthenes article, you can find how many times the measurements were corrected, since Eratosthenes didn't get a totally accurate measure. Also, you can do the experiment yourself: www.scientificamerican.com/article/measure-earths-circumference-with-a-shadow/
Etothe E Eratosthenes' geometric formula works because the Sun is so far away that it's light arrives in parallel rays to the curved Earth's surface. You can check the experiment yourself: www.scientificamerican.com/article/measure-earths-circumference-with-a-shadow/
at 1:26 one of those "couple of Greek Philosophers" was Aristarchus of Samos. He used ANGLES to figure out the Sun was bigger than the Earth and Ergo, the Sun would be the center.
That sounds interesting. But I don't understand how that would work since the sun and moon are both the same angular size in the sky. Would you mind elaborating a bit?
What was not mentioned is that Galileo's theory of heliocentrism could not be proven until the the stellar parallax was confirmed. Friedrich Bessel is credited with confirming stellar parallax in the 19th century and shortly after that William Herschel showed Galileo's theory correct using stellar parallactic oscillations.
@Gary Eastman so the so called evidence they have for earth revolving around the sun is pure assumption?? Hahahaha what do you expect from a stupid atheist
+Digital Freedom Well just to get more technical: the universe didn't expand from a single point. Only our observable part of the universe did (and even that is not sure, because we can only calculate an upper bound for the initial density of the observable part of the universe). So whether or not the entire universe started from a single point is hard to say, but most ideas about the structure of the entire universe either state that the universe has always been infinite, or they do not say anything concrete about whether or not the universe started from a single point.
3 Comments down I found a flat earther. That is three times how far I though it would take. Five for an idiot who thinks the US didn't land on the Moon. If we landed on the Moon, why wouldn't the Soviets call us out instead of congratulating us. This comment is bound to recurve hate so FYI I won't be checking back.
Andrew Morris $$$ notice all the space programs use similar logos? Think about how much money citizens of each country are willing to donate to space exploration.
In hinduism we have known helio centric model since thousands of years without debate. We also have symbolic gods for planets 9. Sun god is strongest among all. ... There is lot of details on internet
And then there were the Indians who had written that the Sun attracted the Earth and made it revolve around the sun several millenia before either Europeans or Middle Easterners (who themselves took a lot of ideas from the East). Even to this day, the ancient practice of Surya Namaskara is done by millions of Indians to respect the Sun and improve themselves everyday.
please. you cant say anything absolute about the motion of planets. Einstein said so... There is a perfectly good geocentric model.. just take earth as the non moving reference fram... but please if you will try to prove its the earth that is really moving.... you cant any more than you can prove it is stationary.... So you cant hold that relativity theory is true at the same time saying with a wink, ah but we know the earth relly realy is moving...
And the Galileo-Chruch drama was not about "disagreeing with the bible" - it was more about trying to prove Galileo's claims which weren't solid enough to accept straight away.
Pretty sure the earth *is* the center of the universe, the moon and sun move around us, and the other planets go around the sun. I did the math and it matches the orbital patterns equally well
+jelinlikeafelin I think your model forces all stars to move at superluminar speeds. And on really weird trajectories while accelerating chaotically well outside any gravity field.
+Andreas Wirler You do know that it's about the people on youtube today who seriously claim that the earth is flat? Check out Eric Dubay or Jeranism (there are many other idiotic flatheads)
100% the Geocentric model is wrong, 100% the Heliocentric Model is wrong 100% the AE Flat Earth model is wrong. Maybe we should combine the proven parts of each and reach a New model which will be 33% wrong.
XRMissie, Why would you feel sorry for people who test using scientific method? Seems one would feel sorry for themselves for falling for such absurd theories. It's funny how straw man arguments against the geocentric model are used. "Everything revolves around the Earth" and then using moons on planets to say the model doesn't work. It's really not that complicated, look at Polaris, it stays directly above our North Pole and always has in observable history. No tilt is needed it's directly above the plane. No matter where one is at in the oceans, they can navigate by the same stars they always have. That is observable evidence that doesn't take a lot of theoretical mathematical equations to prove. There is math that supports it but not the crazy paralax type fairy tale math.
D. King And no, it's not directly above the north pole, it's several degrees off. Actually do some research before saying something stupid and embarrassing yourselfm
BlackHairedGoo n, Actually it is right above from what I have researched, been there for as long as been recorded, from my research. I've never been there, have you?
Flat Earthers do it for the attention (unless they're really stupid) and I don't think that at this point people even believe in the geocentric model unless they're uneducated. Sorry for replying 2 years late, old man XD
It disgust me how people blatantly disregard science, not understanding that its THE HUMAN PURSUIT TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING CORRECTLY, and instead come up with silly ideas that make zero sense and then defend their ignorant beliefs with all the nonsense they created.
+Chainsaw Surgeon Look up "pictures from the Karman Line" It's regarded as the border between the atmosphere and space and you can definitely see curvature from there
+TheLegomann97 Every picture that I've seen of earth curvature has been from a fish eye lense,I don't trust phony NASA, or any government funded group, Apparently you haven't watched many flat earth videos, which show many Independent studies, I know it's hard to get away from a lifetime of global brainwashing, I know what you believe and why, I've been there, people can call me all kinds of names, but the truth is more important to me. Truth has never been popular.
+Chainsaw Surgeon You do know that there are plenty of "amature" groups out there who have made it to the karman line and taken pictures, right? My college has an AIAA chapter that plans on going to said altitude. There are plenty of un fisheyed pictures out there from said groups that show the curvature of the earth. Also, no, I haven't seen many flat earth videos because the few I've seen have been chock full of logical fallacies and factual inaccuracies.
I don't have to There is such a large catalogue of photos and video footage from a time that there was no f=photo shop The Gemini and Apollo series took place when no photo shop was possible . Today there is lots of footage that is in the form of video footage not easy to fake . and all the video from SST , I don't think there is a reason to lie about their accomplishments. To those who claim it is faked they should show how and why
Hey, can we please stop with this story? The universe doesn't have a center. When you take two bodies orbiting around eachother, it is impossible to know "which one is orbiting around the other", but you can take an ARBITRARY frame of reference which can be one or another of those bodies. It works the same with more bodies, for example in our planetary system, in galaxies and everything else : any center is arbitrary and saying "those are orbiting this and not the other way around" doesn't have any sense. Thus when people said the earth was the center of the universe they weren't wrong, they just took another frame of reference (the earth). Mathematically it is just as right to describe the world in your frame of reference. Yes, you can be the center of the universe if you want to (and if you do the translations in your equations)
@@boterlettersukkel those are not evidence but claims. Nobody has ever seen the earth orbiting or rotating. The earth is a sphere but its not moving, revolving or rotating.
Dude isn't even mentioning the science behind the mystery! Are we moving or is the heavens moving!? General relativity and special relatively are at odds with each other! We can't prove a moving or stationary earth! You guys are all delusional! You guys believe what.... but based on what facts!
arnab som but then, where the mantle and the core, if it was skinny like super, then the earth would of been dry long ago, also the gravity is not equal then, the water would start to toward the middle of the earth
I love scihshow for the most part, but bashing the geocentric model using a Greco-centric world-view-facts is a bit catch-22, yes? Athens is not the center of the world, "there is indeed a lot more out there".
What I don't understand is, why does Nicolaus Copernicus get credit for being the first to theorize that the sun was the center of the universe when ancient Mayan's must have known this thousands of years before. I say "must have known this" because the Mayan calendar was 365 days and I don't think that it's just coincidental that's how many days that it takes for the earth to orbit the sun. The Mayans also tracked all of the planets, predicted eclipses and it's also common knowledge that the Mayans & Aztecs were sun worshippers..
u westerners don't consider the whole world do u . Ancient indian scientists not only figured out Earth was round but also calculated its circumference using mathematics and only missed by 107 km i.e 0.25%.
1. Any discussion of the history of the geocentricity debate that excludes the work of Tycho Brahe is not a real or objective discussion. 2. This video also ignores Mach's Principle. The fact is that the solar system is not by any means isolated from the Milky way and the universe therefore we have to consider the gravitational an magnetic forces elsewhere. 4. Just considering the routes of pluto, it is obvious that heliocentrism fails to account for all the solar system. 5. Being the case that pluto is effected by other forces than the sun's gravity one must question the boundaries of the solar system. when we question those boundaries we must be uncertain as to the center of mass. 6. Ignoring the helical model ignores the fact that the sun is not a still object. according to heliocentrism the sun is moving at least 125 miles per second.So if none of the solar system is staionary then how could the sun be the center? 7. according to the copernican principle there is no stationary point of reference. so then there is no obejective frame of reference to determine that the sun is the center of something.
Ok hold on I don’t understand, isn’t it possible the Jupiter moons could be rotating around Jupiter while Jupiter is rotating around the earth ? That doesn’t sound like that’s evidence that the geocentric model was wrong because, Jupiter could be rotating around earth and Jupiter moons around Jupiter, doesn’t that mean Jupiter moons are still rotating around the earth because it’s going along in the rotation of Jupiter which is going around the earth ???
Sooooo funny. But a comedy is always so much better with a laugh track. For real scientific information watch people like Space Busters, Phuket Word, Eric Dubay and Brian Austin Lambert.
