How 'Wolfwalkers' Animated Its Wolf Vision Scenes | Movies Insider 

Well computers can already do similar style of render right now. Much, much faster, and far cheaper.

Agreed

Hi bee

Especially in 2020!

@@iruns1246 just cause computers can do it doesn’t mean that the people who cam don’t deserve the recognition for their skills. Some things simply require a human touch for a specific feeling, which is perfect for Cartoon Saloon (studio who made Wolfwalkers). They don’t take shortcuts by just rendering the scene with a computer.

Heck yeah! I’ve been absolutely in love with dont starves style since the very first trailer! But the more recent animated clips simply don’t seem to have the same ...flavour? As the first trailer did

I like that game

@@dianamaydraw8533 the game itself is beautiful for the simplicity it has, if you haven’t played it

@@enoxomnia of course I’ve played it! Not well, but I played it.

@@enoxomnia, hmm, I'll have to try it out.

Wait till you see what they use to make South Park.

I love this too being someone that uses blender

@@justinpedersen9174 MS Paint?

@@OrdinaryLatvian Autodesk Maya ;)

@@justinpedersen9174 for real tho, that's kinda expensive for that kind of animation :(

That’s very true

True

I personally found Song of the Sea boring. but that was down to the pacing, and only the young boy appearing to have any agency whatsoever. That's about it, though. of their entire catalog that's about the one film I consider below excellent. ...eat your heart out, Disney.

To bad they don't get money and have only made 4 films

@@pedrosian7031 I love song of the sea. It was heartwarming. And I would give it a 10/10. If you don't like it that's understandable because slow paced movies aren't for everyone after all. :)

yeah, what a wonderful world

Took 5 years!

Animation is very time consuming and difficult.

He’s right.

I have EVEN MORE RESPECT FOR THIS MOVIE, and I've watched it over 5 TIMES NOW (gonna keep going, cause this movie is "FLIPPING GREAT!")!

It's already out on Apple TV

Same

Mhm I really love these movies and the art style.

Though I haven’t watched all of them

I agree. I theorize that Ben Bocquelet, Gumball’s creator, got inspired from Cartoon Network city. All the characters of Cartoon Network’s platform were 2D but in a 3D environment. Now with the movie confirmed, we’ll likely get more of his great ideas.

ikr and they draw so beautifully : 0

Let alone the hands The FATIGUE

Yeah, I'm scared they'll go under tho, I swear they risk too much lol

@@clartblart3266 Nah, they'll be totally fine.

@@definitelynotapervert5602 Did you know they're making a 13 episode Tv series for Wolfwalkers?

@@definitelynotapervert5602 they might not be. All of Cartoon Saloon's films have produced at a financial loss, to the point where they had an appeal ad against film piracy shown in Irish cinemas. Without government support, they'd likely be gone by now.

@@sweetasterium that's a real shame... I really enjoy their films...

Me neither

Im gonna be quite honest, ive been obsessed with mixed media animation for years now. And somehow this was the first time ive heard someone call it 2.5D

Yeah

@@ponyfish157 If it has layered depth using 2D assets in 3D space, then it's 2.5D. You're lacking visual library, that's why you just heard of it.

@@ponyfish157 what is mixed media? Is it like the spidervse style?

I've watched it over 5 times now...

@Kai Studio's I plan to

@@thespeedyyoshi 😁👍🐺😋

agreed. I still can't decide if I like it more than Song of the Sea, but it's definitely a more coherent and well-paced story. I also love the diverse character personalities in Wolfalkers. Mebh elevates every scene. I can't wait to see what Cartoon Saloon makes next! Oh also the music in these films are so beautiful!

True 😁

@@wenisme9670 There are multiple kinds of animation, from computer generated, to stop motion, to claymation, to flip books, to hand drawn, to digitally rendered and so forth. Not all animation is hand drawn.

@@wenisme9670 tell me how 3d animation is hand drawn then

@@solar_cats657 the movie was hand drawn on counter. They used 3D model Forrest as reference but everything we saw on the movie was digitally drawn on computer...

More like the best animation in 2020

it feels a lot like a disney movie 😀🤘

@@dikkorulz2391 Egy3i uht at it aeyw4

Where do I watch it?

@@I_WANT_MY_SLAW Apple TV +

@@dikkorulz2391 no, its better

It would get the attention it deserves by winning that Oscar for Best Animated Picture. Such recognition is long overdue for Cartoon Saloon. But chances are slim, because Disney/Pixar automatically wins just by general awareness and publicity, without Academy members actually watching these movies. Personally, I think Wolfwalkers is a masterful piece of art and the best movie of the year - also much better than Soul, which feels like your standard Pixar tale doing nothing interesting or innovative on a visual level.

@@MegaChaosGelee It's makes me really angry that Disney/Pixar films almost always automatically win but that's a whole other issue and even a nomination would be amazing and it would probably give it some more attention. It definitely deserves it, that's for sure And to be honest I haven't gotten the chance to watch Soul yet, but no matter how good it is, it won't be able to beat Wolfwalkers for me

Hmm wolfwalker is way better

@@etriganthedemon666 I agree but lot of Oscars voters tend to favor big name productions more than ones who actually earn it for the better film.

@@ADifferentVibe Hmm Agree

​@@ADifferentVibe well for starts the ''animation'' category is a sign of how little the academy cares about animated works in 2016 for instance the existential drama Anomalisa competed for the same prize as Shaun the Sheep just because they shared the medium of animation, they absolutely weren't the same genre of film though the academy refuse to care in that regard the Annie awards is a much better fit for animated works

@@ADifferentVibe Well, mainly Disney/Pixar ones, ALTHOUGH, “Spider-Verse” won back in ‘19, plus the fact that “Wolfwalkers” had major word-of-mouth from critics back when it was first released, so, yeah. There *might* be hope.

I’m from Ireland and I’m really happy to see Cartoon Saloon get so much recognition, as when it comes to Ireland’s film industry we don’t really have much to offer, yeah we have some hidden gems here and there 💎, however when it comes to a worldwide audience we don’t get much. After I heard the hugely positive reaction from so many people around the world about Wolfwalkers, it made me have hope that Ireland’s film industry and Cartoon Saloon for that matter will reflect on this positive reaction and make more amazing films!

Not only this...They don't know, what they are talking about - For example, look at 6:17, when they are talking about FPS - In the "24 fps" example, the animation is on 2s (every frame in those shots is shown twice - they used 12 drawings held for 2 frames)

I laughed so hard. Kuguuya. oh no.

I'M SO GLAD SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED

IKR

So their 24 FPS example was really 12?

1st one is studio ghibli im guessing?

@@AnnTheWatcher you are correct

Yeessss cultured I like this

Chico, its is very much true!

Exactly. Even Cartoon Saloon said this, just in their own words.

Hear hear! A lot of wannabe film buffs think CGI is a lazy "press A to animate" situation. It still requires a lot a human touches, not unlike stop-motion animation.

@@fireaza I think a lot of people associate CGI as lazy not so much on the animators part, but more so the director. It's like how a films like The Dark Knight or Mad Max: Fury Road used tons of clever practical effects are compared to films that use too much CGI like the Hobbit trilogy or Star Wars prequel trilogy. The director could go the extra mile and go practical, or give it to the CGI artists to take care of it. Or if you're really clever (Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance comes to mind), use them both to compliment one another.

agreed! I kinda winced when the narrator says things like "watercolor cant be achieved in 3D" but it absolutely can! It really undermines the amount of research and work 3D artists put into developing new shaders, techniques, and tools. anything is possible in 3D :)

This is what I came here to say!! Cringed a little everytime the voiceover referred to the digital art as "by a computer" and the traditional "by hand" haha...

It's the same studio and mostly same animation team

@@lixxie144 And same director.

Yeah... Also the way they say "something a computer alone wouldn't be able to do". Well, a computer wouldn't be able to do ANYTHING alone. Every little part of a computed animated movie ALSO has to be made by artists. The sculpting, the retopology, the UV making, the rigging, the texture paint, the materials, and THEN the animation, the shading, color correction, pós production and all... It's SO much work, and the computer is just a tool to let us navigate this digital 3D world. I love 2D animation and I hate that it was left behind for so many years, I hope it comes back with full strenght. But we can't pretend 3D animation is worthless and "THAT much easier to do" either...

Catch all term

I know! We should give these guys the credit too as they made this film possible. They all did a fantastic job on this work of art!

"This is 2d-animation!" _shows 2d animation_ "And this is 3d-animation!" _shows an untextured, still 3d model_

@@Nejvyn Yeah I cringed a little bit at that part 🤦🏾‍♀️

They’re always bribed by Disney, and despite Into the Spider-Verse winning an Oscar in 2019 the movie was still based on a Marvel IP. Sony owns the film rights to Spidey, but the characters are owned by Marvel (which is owned by Disney). People keep assuming Sony fully owns the characters, when it’s just the movies they own. Disney owns everything else, so they still get a portion of the revenue from movies not produced by Marvel Studios.

And if that’s not another messed up thing about the Academy, they recently announced that it’s forbidden to accept awards through video conferences. They have to be on stage, risking their own health.

Oscars has long been dead since Brave won over Wreck-It-Ralph in Best animation category

I don't think Soul deserved the Oscar win, this film was incredible and just looked far better than Soul did. It was visibly beautiful and the soundtrack was incredible. The hand drawn animation was stunning

Soul was pretty good storywise, but I do agree, Wolfwalkers deserves an award better than Soul does.

True, for individual characters. But certain aspects of depth, like how backgrounds and characters move in relation to each other, are impossible to achieve without innovations like the paralax/multiplanar camera.

@@picnicsandstars Yes, true. I made that comment being cynical to this video, but as I go along the more I really love these videos. Insider does such a great job showing animation at its finest, and how it works. Apart from the "most animated movies are animated on 24fps, or 1's" stuff, Insider does some great pieces on animation in general.

👍🏻

I highly recommend watching them. All three previous movies of Cartoon Saloon - The Secret of Kells, Song of the Sea, and The Breadwinner - are Academy Award nominated masterpieces. Both regarding animation and storytelling. It's so easy to fall in love with this studio and their artful craft.

I literally came down in the comments, triggered at the commentator for this...

@@linusaranha6703 I often see that people don't understand that in 2D animation, frame rate kinda doesn't matter... They think that the frame rate in 2D animations is this same thing as FPS in Video games or Frame rate in live-action movies... This video isn't that triggering...Is misleading, yes, but it is not "harmful"... What triggers me the most, are those Videos, in which they interpolated 2D Animations, using Dain-app... And people in the comments there - They don't know ANYTHING about 2D animation, but they are FIRST to talk BS about how 2D animation should be done... Few comments from the comments section of "What Mulan (1998) would look like in 60fps", to show, what i am talking about When i saw the comments there...I literally wanted to find those people and punch them in the face, and you will understand why in a moment: _" Yeah, animated and live action movies are usually made around 24-25 fps, because it looks not too smooth, not too blurry. It's how our eyes see real life"_ _"that's really stupid reasoning. The 24 frame format is over a century old and there's literally no need for it to exist anymore. You've just been conditioned to thinking that movies should be in 24fps and that's why you don't like the better 60fps format."_ _"that is just because we are used to having games be 60 fps. at the end of the day, 60fps is better."_ _"It's all about convention though - we've been conditioned to expect 24fps. Should we start towards animation or film in general being 60fps, that film convention will eventually stick and we (or future generations more likely) wouldn't find it so jarring. "_ _" 60 fps could be better if directed correctly."_ (For context, this was an answer to someone's comment, in which he/she explained that animator choose timing for animations and that's why animation interpolated to 60 fps looks bad) _"You're completely wrong about 3D, It clearly needs a higher framerate like 48,50,60,120"_ (this was in answer to AN ANIMATOR, who said that 24 FPS is enough for 3D animation) _"Except no. The movie was animated at the frame rate it was because the artists have to draw every frame. The more fps, the more work. The interpolation that the ai uses looks fantastic and I would pay to see some of the stunning work that the animators did ramped up to 60 fps."_ _"I don't think they lower the FPS in fight scenes, they increase the shutter speed so that there's less motion blur and it looks more "raw" (I guess is a way of saying it)."_ Ok, enough comments, because just reading them makes me angry... The worst types of comments are comments like "HURR DURR, 24 FPS HAS 100 Years and it is old, so we should use 60 fps instead, I played VIDEO GAME AND IT LOOKED GREAT" And the second worst type of comments are comments from people, who don't understand how 2D animation works, but they are first to explain to others,even the professional animators, how their animations should be done.

@@tygra2886 exactly its just sooooo sooo annoying to see people showoff little that they have come across and remember against professionals in said fields.. that "60fps could be better if directed correctly" guy definitely isn't anyway close to the field he is talking abt... Definitely gamers tryna mix similar terms together to make themselves sound smart.

@@tygra2886 Thank you! I'm so glad I'm not alone. Also for commenting on interpolation. So many good animation scenes have been uploaded on YT in the "interpolated" "60fps" version. I can't understand for life how someone would find these abominations better than the original sequences...

@@tygra2886 oh yeah absolutely. I hate interpolation. However, while the "most movies are animated at 24 images per second" thing is misleading, I can understand a journalist making a mistake, something far different than being a 60fps ai evangelist