How would 'charter cities' work?

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"I do believe that charter cities are in this broad tradition of liberalism where society can choose how to organize themselves in a manner that they think best suits their needs. And hopefully this kind of opens the door up to alternative forms of governance," argues Mark Lutter
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@jean-sebastienbasque-girou633 6 месяцев назад

Milton Friedman didn't say that economic freedom "leads" to political freedom, he said that it's a necessary condition, not a sufficient one

@acctsys 6 месяцев назад

That cannot be emphasized enough. Also, rule of law is something he emphasized in his later days.

@mikemcconeghy4658 6 месяцев назад

This is missing a much-needed intro where they explain what they heck they're talking about.

@ArjayMartin 6 месяцев назад

tattoos look masculine on females...

@evphex 6 месяцев назад

Who the hell would argue that people don’t mind being surveilled? The guy with cat ears on his head.

@ethangroat8333 6 месяцев назад

If you think that everyone cares about privacy, you've never lived in a modern democracy or you're seriously deluded. People want all kinds of crazy shit.

@RussellNelson 6 месяцев назад

Did you mind being surveilled by your parents? Privacy is like everything else: a tradeoff, not a solution. (Thank you Dr. Sowell)

@user-wl2xl5hm7k 6 месяцев назад

Where would this be?? To avoid all layers of punitive-state jurisdictions.

@aithaed9818 6 месяцев назад

If I had to offer a wild guess, probably that one place in Yellowstone where govt. jurisdiction laws make you unable to be prosecuted in court.

@bogeybichon7000 6 месяцев назад

Prospera, Honduras.....experimental libertarian development

@ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER 6 месяцев назад

literally anywhere..... the fictional beliefs of others, aka "the law" is irrelevant.

@user-wl2xl5hm7k 6 месяцев назад

@@ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER Come out of fantasy land and meet us in the actual world to discuss the actual world. Or don’t comment publicly at all. One or the other.

@user-wl2xl5hm7k 6 месяцев назад

@@aithaed9818 it’s within the US jurisdiction. And made for environmental reasons.

@FourthRoot 6 месяцев назад

At 4:30 he talks about "transfering proxies" in an alternative form of democracy, which is earily similar language to a video I made in 2010. Nice to see my idea is starting to catch on.

@NotDanValentine 6 месяцев назад

Really interesting conversation! I'd be eager to hear more about charter cities.

@hoosierdaddy1469 6 месяцев назад

Love the idea of "charter cities" however one of the biggest issues I forsee is supply chain. The current government wouldn't allow this in prepopulated areas. It would have to be out in the middle of nowhere. No functioning water, sewage, electricity, fuel, etc.. But people would still need resources and everything would be a drive even for basic resources like cement or wood much less processed resources like food and clothing. Think what takes just to build a gas station to fuel tractors for moving earth.

@JS-ol4dx 6 месяцев назад

My guess would be something like China

@user-wl2xl5hm7k 6 месяцев назад

No. That wouldn’t avoid the punitive state jurisdiction, and taxes, of China itself.

@wurzel9671 6 месяцев назад

@@user-wl2xl5hm7kYou're missing the point

@bobann3566 6 месяцев назад

Sounds like a Direct Democracy. Block chain Technology would make a Great Voting Platform in a Direct Democracy.

@YouilAushana 6 месяцев назад

13:22 - So, is this a conversation economics of "charter cities" or what?

@swayne1441 6 месяцев назад

This is the worst idea I think I've ever heard

@RussellNelson 6 месяцев назад

You're the worst person I've ever heard from. And that includes Ted Kaldis!

@brentwells8963 6 месяцев назад

😂😂

@bobann3566 6 месяцев назад

Sounds like a Direct Democracy. Block Chain Technology would make a great Voting Platform in a Direct Democracy.

@acem82 6 месяцев назад

If you want "Libertalia", it's simple: Recognize the 2nd amendment. I want to be able to do full auto mag dumps without asking government permission. If you can't do that, I'm not interested. If you can do that, you'll be flooded with applicants.

@RussellNelson 6 месяцев назад

New Hampshire.

@acem82 6 месяцев назад

@@RussellNelson Yeah, no. I still have to ask permission to buy/build it. No thank you. Again, you want people moving there? Get government out of the way of the "good times" (the pew pews).

@NoShowShattuck 6 месяцев назад

This is the longest SNL skit ever.

@xxcrysad3000xx 6 месяцев назад

It's been tried. I'm not so opposed to wild and wooly libertarians scoping out their own potential site for a charter city somewhere in the vast US hinterlands, but the fact that noone really ever does it (or has done it successfully) suggests there's a lot less buy-in for such a project than might be let on by polling and survey data. The other model, libertarians moving en masse to a small jurisdiction and effectively taking over it's governance by force of sheer numbers, this has also been a failure, and I tend to have less sympathy for this approach.

@ethangroat8333 6 месяцев назад

They're talking about starting up a city voluntarily where it is financially viable to do so. The options are limited right now but it is being done around the world, especially in the global south, and as the African continent becomes richer with access to Bitcoin and other symbolic representations of property ownership, this will only increase the opportunities for startup cities. It's almost like you didn't listen to the video at all.

@xxcrysad3000xx 6 месяцев назад

@@ethangroat8333 You're right, I didn't.

@RussellNelson 6 месяцев назад

Free State Project has not been a failure. It is taking longer than anybody wanted (except the progressives, of course. Is there any other state where the progressives are fighting the libertarians? No, because NH is the only state where libertarians are worth fighting). Everything good takes longer than you want. Bad things happen faster than you want. Welcome to the real world.

@bobann3566 6 месяцев назад

Sounds like a Direct Democracy. Block chain Technology would make a Great Voting Platform in a Direct Democracy.