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The Cone Valve Technology has been one of the biggest innovations in front fork technology of the last decade, but what’s all the fuss around them?
Let’s find out!
0:00 Intro
0:31 Anatomy of the Cone Valve
1:00 How it works
2:27 Cone Valve VS Traditional MSV
4:12 Benefit of Cone Valve
5:13 How to tune the Cone Valve
5:52 Announcement! & End
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Комментарии : 41

@c3h4organic97 Год назад

Conevalves where invested by Mr. Pfeiffer in Germany in the 80`s because it avoids the "hydraulic lock" of conventional shim systems at very< high speeds. It was not invented by WP.

@nvmcrider8475 Год назад

Once again you have made one of the best suspension videos on RU-vid. The cone valve doesn't seem like it would cost much more money to make, why do you think that they just don't come stock or standard on the bikes?

@StepstoPodium Год назад

Thaaaank you man! The cone valve is ideal for really tough riders and really hard pace riding, more like enduro gp or even rally! For everyday joe doesn't seem to bring the value it brings to more elite riding

@lucasbhogal3790 Год назад

i see this coming into MTB Suspension too in a few years, given its Advantages and reliability, and maybe even esier to produce and assemble

@AntiStressKit Год назад

Excellent, Excellent, Excellent! Thank you for the video Luis. The side by side comparison between the shim based valves and the cone valves is very helpful. Cheers 🚀

@StepstoPodium Год назад

Thank you dear Ariel! 🙌 you never skip a beat 💪

@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh 2 месяца назад

Easy design, good idea to try especially on rear shock with strong falling leverate ratio.

@claudioteixeira5917 Год назад

Outro magnífico vídeo, inglês e subtitles 👍🔝👏👏👏👏👏👏

@StepstoPodium Год назад

Muito obrigado! As legendas não perdem 😜

@tomr8761 Год назад

It functions similar to the RaceTech cartridge emulator which uses a disk with coil spring. The big secret is the spring. Nice graphics. Thanks for posting.

@MrTL3wis 8 месяцев назад

On really big, square-edge type hits, the cone/poppet/spool valves have a big pressure spike that you don't get with shim valving. Shims can also react _a lot_ faster than something that has to physically move to uncover a hole.

@douglasnorman8748 5 месяцев назад

I don't see why the cone would give a pressure spike

@actZR900 2 месяца назад

Awesome video

@claritean 2 месяца назад

btw this channel is a damn hidden gem!

@StepstoPodium 2 месяца назад

Ahah! Thank you! 😄

@franf8642 Год назад

excellent. I have a question . when you talk about the balance of the base valve and the mid valve. softening the mid valve must also be done in the base valve? thank you

@StepstoPodium Год назад

Thank you! It will depend on the degree of the change but it should be taken into account :)

@miro_s Год назад

Thanks! No matter how genial, it is a simple idea and easy to build. How is then the enormous cost of CV forks justified?

@StepstoPodium Год назад

You're paying the innovation (and all the r&d behind it), not only the build cost 😉

@miro_s Год назад

@@StepstoPodium sure, but somebody will soon clone the design…

@StepstoPodium Год назад

We'll have to wait and see! 😄

@cowpker4life333 Год назад

@@miro_syou are also paying for all cnc and coated parts with tighter tolerances vs stock forks.

@cowpker4life333 Год назад

Be cool see video on mxtech forks and shock and how different is along with suspsion101 sprungmid(like a convalve) valve and gobblers(has h/l speed comp for base valve)

@StepstoPodium Год назад

The Raven Cartridge kit arrived this week and will have an offroad engineered video dedicated to it 😄💪

@lillianwreaths4142 3 месяца назад

Need to check that out.

@devrimds3263 6 месяцев назад

How do you think about conevalve vs kyb inserts ? I have kub inserts from technical touch. I like them for sure but never tried conevalves and still curious. I ride mx track and also cross country (c class rider)

@StepstoPodium 6 месяцев назад

I think the cone valve is really good for an aggressive rider for example 🙂

@chrisgall4664 11 месяцев назад

This is not accurate, because the WP mid valve is more restrictive than say a kyb or Showa. So when the cone is open all the way it’s still more restrictive due to the port entrance hence the delta shims on the reb side. Also it’s common on kyb and aer to run a leaf spring shim setup giving a broader range to be in the sweet spot.

@MrTL3wis 8 месяцев назад

At the very least, I'd say it's a debatable point.

@Drunken_Hamster 13 дней назад

Why not put cone valves on both sides of both the main and mid-speed dampers?

@StepstoPodium 12 дней назад

It simply doesn't make sense to have that kind of valve on the base valve, it would make the overall suspension behaviour very hard to adjust, even with the adjustability it provides.

@Drunken_Hamster 12 дней назад

@@StepstoPodium Fair enough. Is there anything stopping it from being on both sides of the mid-speed valve, though?

@StepstoPodium 12 дней назад

The rebound valve doesn't need to have such complex and elaborate valves. What's available already covers all the needs you might have. On rebound you jest need to control the extension of the spring, that's all.

@claritean 2 месяца назад

one would think that increasing the spring weight on the mid valve shimstack would do the same but that probably changes the curve hmm. noob's POV

@olasod1 Год назад

Great video but I will never consider buying a bike with WP. If you need to put +2000€ in a bike, just to get it to work properly. Well, than the suspension is not good at all. Even worse when the bike costs 1500-2000 more than their competitors from start.

@stinkfinger Год назад

Agreed... It's disgusting that I find myself here watching this video because the WP XPLOR fork on my brand new $13K bike sucks so bad. 😞

@LostAnFound Месяц назад

It this like an old-school is better thing?

@joelballard4955 Месяц назад

90% of average riders don’t take the time to set the bike up. I have a 2022 gasgas ex250f and it’s the best stock suspension for riding woods and trails that I have ever rode. It struggles on moto, but play riding, trails, mixed woods, it’s excellent. Also have a 2024 250SXF and it’s bone stock and excellent. Took a few hours to figure out where I want clickers and sag, but it’s money.

@StepstoPodium Месяц назад

@joelballard4955 completely agree with you!!!

@TwinTurboLsx 6 месяцев назад

Now this makes me wonder why these subtle changes are costing thousands of dollars. 😂

@edsonbarcellos4541 4 месяца назад

Lot's of money for a suspension that doesn't work!!! I go with the state of the art black Jack suspension from MX TECH USA. ( THE WIZARD JEREMY WILKEY)