How You Can Learn PVP | Arcane Odyssey | Pt.1: The Basics 

That Mr_waddlingduck dude is bad

actual good beginners guide ngl, but once u get the basics down its all about practice and playing A LOT

Step 1: consider fighting back when you’re getting hunted. Practicing in unideal situations generally yields more benefits than constantly being smothered by the “rules” in a fair fight. Even if they’re one of those guys that have 1.1k kills in 50 hours, allot of those kills just come from them either killing the same person over and over again during a practice (which gets them accustomed to the “rules” and is also why they’re usually incredibly petty when they lose) or from killing the average ravenna level 93 random. TLDR: more pvp can only be beneficial for your improvement. All right that was my ted talk see you guys next tuesday

It's nice to see someone who's friendly about pvp, let alone someone who wants to help others get better at it.

Not a good pvper by any standards (size crutch), but I met this dude and helped him with how to warrior and some mechanics... He absolutely devastated me within an hour. I don't know if I should be happy or feel bad about myself. Just to note, I would green him the first couple of rounds before I gave advice. Now I'm thinking buddy is an alt.

When you mentioned the very small difference between pve and pvp players I lit up a bit. I have less than half player kills compared to my hours on all of my files since release, I've never grinded renown or really ever been considered a 'pvper' and yet i can kill people that I have no business killing. I always used to say that 'the only difference between pvpers and pve players is pvpers have a fragile ego.' and while this is a bit of a generalisation, I'd say it does hold some truth in that pvpers believe themselves to be superior when the skill gap isn't that great. I'll be sending this video around. The ao community needs to see this

True I mostly got better by asking ppl to PvP and bounty hunting, just keep doing it and results will show eventually

oh my god who also reconized the epic battle fantasy music holy hell i am old *edit for contex the music begins playing at **6:52*

thx so much for these tips!!! i am SOOO glad someone FINALLY decided to spill the tea!!

Probably the best pvp guide i’ve ever seen Just by using both magic and weapons as a conjurer instead of relying on just weapons, attacking less on the ground and going up close to attack I already beat my first pvp battle

this will be helpful for upcoming pvpers, I really love to see part 2!

Please keep doing these. This video was awesome

1:03 that was hella smooth

Reminds me of my ultimate fighting style video in a good way. Nice to see someone out to educate!

W editing sub earned like the transition when u died to part 1 is w

Bro is cooking. I need that part 2.

Really informative. 👍

This really make me understand about the basics of pvp in Arcane Odyssey. Thank you :D

Nice vid, will defo help new ppl

Thank you man me and my brother play this and he win most of the time and when i was looking at video to listen to while i grind you pop up

weapons are complimentary to your magic/fs. I didn't think about it that way. thanks a lot

2 tips for fellow mages, 1. snares give you I frames so use them as frequently as you can but dont spam them because if its cd isnt over or if you miss you will be punished hard 2. make sure to use different explosions on different magics like pillar and sphere , if they're in the air you can use pillar and if they're on the ground use sphere

Yep. Saving this for later. I made this choice as soon as I heard that breakcore. Hell yeah!!

I'm trying to find what I'm good at but this helps me in overall combat thank you

I will be awaiting pt.2, just so I can send it to my defenseless friend

This is really helpful

man it's people like you who rekindle my spark to keep playing arcane despite its unideal conditions (on my end, a very low-end pc and the lack to truly commit to a game for hours on end, and the community doesn't exactly do wonders for both of these given how toxic it can be) my mindset has switched to playing arcane solely for enjoyment--not following the meta and just finding solace in minor things that people normally wouldn't look too far into, like the scenery, getting immersed in the progression, trying to make my own stories for my files and yeah while that can combat my wants to actually play on a level alongside the majority that can actually DO things in the game with no relative difficulty, at the very least i'm not siphoning my life away purely for vassal, just taking my own pace yk? thanks for doing us all a service ^_^

Great Video, doesn't help me but is sure to help newer pvpers 👍

definitely make a gear vid, this was great

Very good guide, we need a part 2!!!!!!!!

very helpfull thanks u deserve a sub

As with most things practice is going to help so much consistently dueling people is great. Also as a conjurer main yeah a lot of the weapons are not used just for damage but utility allowing you to move around and utilize your magic better.

Great video

the mindset tip is so real

hell yeah brother

8:28 Shadow *somewhat* synergies with light, even if its a small damage decrease, the blindness both magics give you can be insane

Wow, great beginners guide! I can give some pointers on how to elevate your gameplay even higher if you want!

The treasure chart locater isn’t always right but I found someone with a cool trick; align the map compass with the island name and you instantly have a way better guide than just, “top right, like really right of the island.” Also marking shovels are cracked.

sick vid brah

I loved teaching people how to pvp, I would say I *was* a HIGH teir zerker since day 1, and I always found it fun to teach people how to do pvp with zerker

ngl these the most useful tips out of any ao pvp tutorial I'd do the same but I can only speak for the mage playstyle. i dont know how to play conj, warlock, warrior, berserker, warlord, etc.

W advice imma take it goat

Thanks for the tips! I am trying to get everything the game has to offer me and trying to learn everything I can, and now I can violently friendly ask my friend to spar with me

PLEASE MAKE ANOTHER

bro pls make a part 2, i need this

Thanks man, I suck at pvp, its honestly a bit too fast for me, not to mention my builds tend to be confusing and kinda bad. As an explosion conj, I often would just try to dance around and see when I can get a hit. But knowing to stay a distance more often will be useful, thanks! (Also my weapon set up tends to be weird cause I set it up for mobility (dual swords), massive aoe (The assassin guy's beast claws), and crazy damage (dual bronze flink-locks, I know its really bad for PVP, but it is often devastating in pve) I'd love to see a part 2!

as a decent ish pvper myself, this guide is good! Simple yet effective, i like your style 🔥 Though i do have one teeny nitpick Conjurers are split into conj and monj based on their playstles (weapon conj and magic conj respectively) Generally as a copnj you main your weapons and use magic purely for leap and or snare, because thanks to synergies, weapons are WAY more effective than magics at dmg output. Which is why most people play conj and not monj Cant wait to see the next part :3

now i feel less confident about thinking i suck! Yippey

W guide

YES, ive been saying this for so long. Hybrids tend to heavily rely on one aspect of their build and neglect the other, only using it when they have no other option. This isnt inherently a bad thing, but it will in no way match against a hybrid player who can use BOTH aspects well. A hybrids whole shtick is about being a mix. You cant out magic a mage, you cant out weapon a warrior, and you cant out strength a berserker. Your selling point is being able to tap into MULTIPLE styles of combat where others fall short. Also, its good to be creative with how you fight. Having an unorthodox playstyle would be funner than playing a recommended build that gets stale quickly. You can use sword draws and snares to dodge, you can use reflexes to hide an incoming attack (slightly makes the attacks start animation less noticable) etc. I also agree with your point about aiming. Sure, its a very important skill (essential if you want to be lb), but its ineffective if you dont have good TIMING/POSITIONING. Every move has a cost. Is it worth it? What are the chances of it landing, and what are the chances they are going to take advantage of your endlag and succeed? Id also recommend playing around with other classes, whether that be making alts or sparring different kinds of players. By learning the ins and outs of every move in ao, your situational awareness increases too.

Damn I'm subbing

looking forward to a movement guide

I mean glad I have the "running the fuck away while attacking" part figured out I mean often times when I start getting ganked I just go high up into the sky (mobility/attack speed explosion paladin. Weird combo) and just rain down fury then run the fuck away and rinse and repeat

We definitely need the gear build video, trying to fight with crap gear is damn near a death sentence unless you are just that skilled. Saw a dude with 1k health wondering why he was getting wrecked by someone with a higher power and defense stat than him.

One thing you forgot to mention about fighting styles is that they struggle to deal with airborne opponents. Other than that, great guide.

When will you post part 2?? I can't wait to see it!

I see this so much when i pvp my friend, i can beat them in a 2V1. And when i try to help them idk how to explain but you do it so well

god, if a pt2 was released it woudl help me SO much. pls pls pls

As someone who's sunk 400 hrs in their now gutted main (Light Conjurer). this is such a helpful insight, i had always used magic as second fiddle to weapons will switch it around and see how it goes

i absolutely fell in love with crystal conj lol, its too good, i got like a 2.8k hp 300-400 dmg base attacks lol

Different armor stats have different progressions. Some stats such as attack size and attack speed are more effective the more you have while other stats such as power and defense are less effective the more you have.

sane ao content

honestly charts are really easy for me so i dont usually do that app thing, but i always grind charts on either max level or for early level up for lvl 20-80 since its free ''decent gear''

Peak 🗣🗣🗣🗣

If you dont use some spell or techniques try making them fun like i wasnt using crash cuz it was slow (ice sailor build) so i tried to make that technieq more fun like ading better name or making it spining sledghammer instead of right puch

My personal stand on pvp is: The limit is how hard you can (or are allowed to) ball.

I mostly overcharge my beams so I remain in the air for too long making me vulnerable to attacks so I learn to slightly charge my beams and attack at medium range. I use Auras (cuz I’m mage) to increase my speed of my attacks so I’m less vulnerable as well. I also practice blocking and parrying a bit more to negate damages done to me and lastly, I am trying to go my best not to be afraid to use surge since it helped me turn the tide in battles quickly as I’m able to deal out high damage without much aiming

A useful guide that doesnt only go in terms of mechaniqs but also mentality, AO is still far from optimized so keeping a good mind whilst playing instead of ranting problems can be a game changer into getting yourself in the flow of things during PvP and having good fundamentals of what you should use for your advantage.

Straight up, this helped a lot so much I can't describe thank you so much for making this video

Theres more than one reason why you should go in the air. Some attacks like beam or blast have an explosion that is larger than the attack itself. If you are in the air, they will have to hit you with the attack and not the explosion, making it harder for them to hit you. You also constantly move in the air, usually down due to gravity. After doing an attack, there might be some time standing still before you dodge. If you are on the ground that is esentially more time on top of the endlag. Do note however that I almost entirely PVE (and only play classes that have magic). This is just what I believe is the case.

I'm going to throw in my two cents here and speak from my experience - The strongest tool is punishing. All builds can do it, and almost all builds are vulnerable to it. Also, learn your opponent. I excel and punishing mistakes I know my friends will make, it's like another boss fight, but you need to keep thinking on your feet. They likey match you in strength and skill, so be creative and unpredictable. Lastly, movement. Not moving is often bad, but sometimes can bait out attacks (shift to dash while charging works so well). You also can't always be airborne, and if you use up all your movement, you can leave yourself wide open. Have mutliple midair options, ways to rapidly change elevation, and dash to evade when necessary, though using it to get it/out of the opponent's face or confuse them is effective. Also, Knights and defence builds- Get up close with any opponent with 1000 health or less. You can almost always trade hits and come out on top

Obligatory not a pvp sweat but, another tip i think should be accounted for is that, the gear you run can also change how you play in some cases, for example I run a 184 power, 1k defense 6 drawback build with vindi, triasta and sunken staff (yes i know, all size warrior gear) and i find that playing hyper aggressive as if i was a warlord is really effective. second tip for people playing warlord, if you need practice using your fighting style, do some pvp with thermo, since you cant charge it before a fight anymore, you have to use it mid fight which can serve as god practice for actually using your fs.

I think the main thing to remember about pvp is that this game is more build dependent than skill. Using something that's comfortable and practical is more useful than something that yields theoretical dps. Don't cave in to people complaining about your build because whatever you use, someone is going to talk smack about it. And yeah practice practice practice. My personal way of getting better was using an extremely hard build until I just got robotic aim, it's nice having a challenge to push yourself once you are familiar with the fundamentals.

Yeah, honestly, the difference between PVP and PVE players is 1. gear, and 2. Meta knowledge. Just getting a decent gearset, dosnt even need to be sunkens, will MASSIVELY help, and the same is true for your attacks, makeing a good weapon or good spell will massively help. As a mage, here are some tips I can give: 1. Blast shape should be cube, the AOE makes it really good, just try to aim for where the enemy will be, not where they are. 2. Beams are nice, but deal less damage than blasts 3. Shockwave placed explosions are really good 4. PULSAR PULSAR PULSAR, its OBSCENELY strong

I think warlord is just a very good starting class, it’s my first save and I picked it bc it sounded cool, the aoe for it is UNFORGIVING if you can use it properly and you can pair a saber with sailor style or iron leg aoe. Basically, I love warlord, warlord is cool, most people who main warlord are cool, I don’t like sailor ice people bc I have skill issue and they have big fast attacks

ah a fellow ice sailor

as a person who has been pvping since WoM, i noticed that your skill will depend on these three things your ability to dodge and movement your ability to use everything in your kit, with its max advantage and last but definitely not least, your ping :/ but for your ability to win fights, your build is very important

Haha explosion magic go 🔥

came for the guide, stayed for the amen breaks

AO Combat is similar to irl combat. Pressure, defense, countering and movement.

I learn this the hard way + Off Server PvPing

since i started pvping a month ago i improved a lot but theres something the people with lots of player kills more than me have, it can be one of those or just one, an amount of atk size u cant dodge , an amount of intensity that is gonna have no death no matter what without the oponent fighting back anymore or they just have better reflexes irl, they just process the information in their brains faster, is not about meta, they are skilled irl

THATS DAWG

I have seen a video of someone, where they were comparing AO and Deepwoken pvp, calling AO pvp the same as blox fruit. And they kept yapping about how amazing Deepwoken pvp is, then proceeded to show the most boring, slow ahh, fight of ALL time. AO pvp is the most fun and good looking I have ever seen, even watching fights is fun and excitating especially when someone turns the table.

I found someone come back to play, he says he used to kill warlords of the sea for snack but now he need to relearn evrything, and ofc since im vary bored at the time i gave him a few tip that instanly make him 84% pvp skill back

about the timing i can aprove that at least on bosses because as a noob with a strong magic (idk witch one exactly) i lost against lord elius ans now i have won with wins magic (crappy damage ) wile still being like lvl 40 or something (way under level) just because i timed my attacs right and abused his endlag

I had noticed that anytime I use a weapons build other than warlord I suck But with like magic or fighting style builds I’m actually somewhat decent at in pvp My recent pvp video even shows it

the air stalling part is similar to blox fruits pvp where if u sky camp u usually win bcz its harder for small hitbox moves to hit when ur target is in the sky especially when the moves dont have proximity trigger or grabs, and skycamping is so meta that if u use it u are considered a scumbag

F in chat for my old computer, I actually raged and broke the screen due to losing in a World Of Magic duel (I thought he abused latency)

i feel like my biggest issue is just my timing is terrible. i know /when/ to block, but its usually after i use my weapon/magic, so i dont actually block at all. and also i think my nervousness makes me just forget where different keys are, or something like that. it's like 90% being nervous i think

Oh my sigmur

AO PvP is so one sided 9 times out of 10 unless you are at the very top of your game and have the best builds and experience to help fight back. That high skill ceiling coupled with the expectation of always having the best gear and abilities possible makes the whole idea of PvP in this game more frustrating than fun. Because of this fact, many players don’t realize how easy PvP is because the few times they try it’s an absolute landslide in the other player’s favor. They just convince themselves they aren’t good enough and never try again.

Also forgot to even say but waddling is a fast mfing learner like bro rocks all our asses😭 Bros created a monster

My problem with pvp is the fact I wanna be cool and make a cool character. I usually choose the super out of meta magics and use them with super out of meta builds for those magics. The results are really cool stuff like poison warlock but my poison warlock is nothing in the face of the local 400 damage beam spam ice mage. Tho my time will soon come with vitality(it’s cool and hopefully it can keep up with the aoe warrior sunken staff spammer)

What I'm about to ask might seem a bit stupid but since I'm new I'll ask anyway. When people go for a build where they have to put points into more stats, like conjurers who have to put points into sword and magic, they don't do lower damage with a sword and instead a warrior does more damage since he has more points in the sword?

Me crying in conjurer

pls cover parry/blocks in the next one that's mad important

Cool guide, but as long as certain things aren't nerfed or buffed, there won't be any point in training, put a warlord against a mage, the mage will run and take to the air while the warlord will barely touch.

while the websites are indeed useful, having resources like them be on a website instead of in some form ingame could be considered bad game design, especially the wiki cause that just tells you the game doesn't give you enough information

please make a part 2