My heart jump when you say. What does a professional artist do? I have my first exposition. I have sold half of my paintings ..I am afraid to call myself artist because I have not have any specific study. I devoured internet for 3 years.I am very organized and set learning goals every day. So I am an artist …😊😊😊😊😊
The way she explained how she tells people she is an artist and their reactions. That's what happens when I tell people I'm a stay at home mom to. I'm busier as a stay at home mom than I was working in a hospital as a nurse. At least as a nurse the shift ended and I got days off. Haha. I really want to be a professional artist and with 4 kids it's going to be a challenge. But worth it. These are really great interviews. Inspiring!
I was a nurse turned stay at home mom (Homemaker CEO) turned artist! Good luck and don’t give up on your dream. Find ways to incorporate your art with your lifestyle. I painted stuff for the kids school, the backdrop for plays, donated items for charity events and the more I gave the more successful my husband became and God provided an abundance for us so I never “had” to sell art or worry about making money at it. I also know so many mom/artists who paint during naps, while kids are at school and even in the evening after bed time. You can make it work, Just keep going and be intentional. ❤
At about 38:00 when she said if your heart is beating a little faster I was like wow. I listened to you speak the entire time and i resonated with everything you said. You remind me of my art teacher named Audrey. I love her. She changed my life as a teen. I live in Miami. I hope I have the opportunity to meet her someday. Excellent video. 👏🏾👏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Great point about the elitist super structure at the 27:00 mark. I think advances in tech, print-on-demand, and new iterations of social media platforms are most definitely in the artists’ favor.
I love these videos! I just recently started thinking of myself (secretly) as an artist. Last month during a professional development workshop on increasing productivity, we had to identify our roles. In addition to my work and family roles, I "came out" in public as an artist and began to create goals for myself. I feel so brave! 💕
I can’t believe she doesn’t know the ear was between Van Gogh and Gauguin. Also the letters were hand written at the time. Apparently they didn’t read the letters which is fine but don’t comment on things you haven’t done research.
It was not a girl Van Gogh sent his ear to but his friend (another artist Paul Gauguin) because Gauguin felt him. Poor guy felt so abandoned :( I happen to love Van Gogh though! His letters to his brother are amazing.
I always ask the Lord to be creative like him . The artist of the universe. Thank you I met you at your new gallery in Sarasota . So glad to hear your positive encouragement .
i've heard Elli say many times that artists will lead the world in moving culture but didn't understand what she meant or how she saw that happening. she explains it so clearly here. wow!!!! what a beautiful vision that she sees...! thank you for holding such a lofty and lovely future for all artists!
Wow, you just described me exactly, I'm 34 and still feel painfully shy, I've also been reading Napoleon Hill lol. This reminds me I can auto suggest myself better🙂 starting up my business right now. Thanks for these videos!
I'm curious about all of this and these Milan folks. Do I have to take their painting courses to become more successful? I already went to art college and got a degree. I have seen some of the artists who come out of this program and all the work looks very similar/is influenced by their style. What if you already have a style? It's the marketing that is honestly the hardest part, in my mind. I also find that Demetra's success is an outlier and this girl quit school at 15, who does that? I'm just not sure about all of this and how I can use this information for my own career.
Elli, thank you for your kindness and generosity to share such a continuous stream of good quality information I need a speaker to get something done while I binge watch everythingI can find on you tube -THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!!!
It is certainly apparent that this nice lady, Ellie Milan, is very well studied, and she has great insight that reaches forward and into the future. Here, we are able to witness something very significant: a natural unfold at 26:50, where the artist has a breakthrough, live on camera. My own expectation from this video is that Elli will eventually establish a new term, a label for somebody who is a progressive artist and is also very progressive in other and further aspects of our culture. And there, in the label - a new identity is born.
Love your work and art! I started to paint and selling my work just by watching your podcast. So much worth in your words, guys. I am still on the waiting list struggling with resistence but in the same time organising my studio, changing mindset, "working out" for the mastery program ( I have master degree in art education made in Germany... I was often just break in laughter as the professors were taking about some of the (elite) artist these days... Your podcast changes the world.
Ellie, Excellent discussion. I am a graduate, I used the "covid years" as time to push and reinvest in my art education. My sore spot are hobby artists who don't hold a simple tax ID and look at me as who does she think she is! I've had one say "when you sell all those paintings..." and scoff - at me! I've even building all the usiness stuff so that it would be ready when the art skill matured. I am about to "bloom!" I can feel it! We are in France, talk about inspiring! If your event will be annual, it will likely be on my agenda / year plan. Would love to sit over a glass of wine with you! Thank you!
Brilliantly transparent. Here in this podcast, Elli Milan is clear, visionary, and grounded in integrity. She speaks and breathes a calm intelligence with a bold soundness of identity as character. I am further inspired to continue to create character as value via the arts via THROV . Thank you for respecting the innovative bleeding edge of art's roll into a future that has no present familiar in the bogged down traditional, and often reoccurring dogmatic, understandings of what acquired wealth is.
I am also on the wait list and building out my studio and self confidence, while I wait. Thanks to the commenter who mentioned the tax ID. I wasn’t sure if that was really cart before the horse, but I’ll make that happen too. For the first time, I now regret staying out of social media. Even when I had another business I stayed away…this I want to talk about! It is my way forward through the rest of my productive life, and a gift to others that lasts forever. Thanks MilanoArt!!
Elli is quite the philosopher. I love her references to writers, Ancient Greek thinkers, and Renaissance artists as she describes artists as cultural influencers, only to be followed by other professionals to bring the future to mainstream. She and Jake erred however when they hinted at stock ownership as a model for continued artistic royalty. A closer analogy might be copyright laws. Whenever music is played on radio, TV or social media, royalty payments to the writers are due. Whenever images are downloaded, royalty for those who created the image is due. Even images of paintings that are used or posted for commercial purposes triggers a royalty. That being said, the artist owns the electronic copy of the art work, and can do what she wants with that copy. She can make prints, put it on mugs, or sell it for use in commercials.
Wow I absolutely love you guys! I love that Eli has the background of a spiritual practice and has managed to incorporate that with her life‘s work of being an artist it’s very inspirational and I love that everyone there seems like a really good person coming from the right place in their hearts…..inspiration is golden 🙌🙌🙌🙌 and I got some here with this video so thank you very very much!
😅💀 Van Gogh cut off a piece of his ear in regret for fighting with a close friend of his. He wasn’t a nut job, he was just sensitive and emotional. He worked through the Bargue course twice. His style & vision was before his time, that’s why he couldn’t get into institutions… He was a master of design. He was prolific. What’s with this hate for Van Gogh 🤣😅 His brother’s wife ended up hosting exhibitions for him, because he didn’t have the business acumen but she did. They both loved him dearly.
His brother died half year later after Van Gogh died. Theo’s wife was educated and kept contact with a few of Van Gogh’s artists friends. It was because of the first person letters she helped to bring to public, we people get to know Van Gogh and his work. Imagine if she didn’t recognize the value.
@@wildcraneart5592 thank you for the input! I can’t imagine the list of art masters without Van Gogh. I really love his earlier work especially. A little more representational, but still wonderfully expressive and experimental.
Van Gogh nipped (not cut) his ear after a falling out with Paul Gauguin. His vision of house full of artist fell when Gauguin left since Gauguin is the only one who accepted his invitaion. After 63 days of living together, the 2 had a fight where Van Gogh nipped his ear for reasons unknown, some say it's guilt. Then Gauguin left and went back to Paris.
The work I see still looks like decorative art. Despite the rules to make work sellable, the work I see you guys do has great line quality overall but appears flat in a Chagall like sense. You produce structural forms and use some values to define the forms but there is never a sense of ligh,time, or place. Such things take longer when you’re working against the clock to produce produce produce. After the carefully rendered paint drawings that are in most of your pictures, the backgrounds are flat embellished, gimmicky spaces. It’s great that you are helping people to sell their work. I just hope that people develop an aesthetic sense that is not based solely on the decorative market.
You put words to what I was trying to figure out. All of the paintings they and their students produce look like collages to me. It’s not necessarily a bad thing, I just was having trouble figuring out why. Its because they have no real sense of space. Thank you for your explanation. That’s fine if they want to do it that way, but I think it would elevate their art to have that sense of time and place.
Thank you very much for this podcast. Milan group is not just a familie with talent. You are irradiating such a great energy base in knowledge and experience. Really valuable. I wish you great succes every day. 😊❤
That painting at the back of Ellie! I had a dream from the Lord similar to that! So gorgeous! I would love to hear the story behind the painting and see if there is a divine connection... Blessings, Marzanne
I'm curious what you both think about the effect of AI "art" taking over the market and dilluting the role of the artist. AI is now also making "music" and "writing" books... any thoughts on how this will affect the us artists and in connection humanity as a whole? Where is culture going when it's not human made anymore?
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR AMAZING VIDEOS..I really learn soo much from you guys. I live in South africa, so my rands cannot buy an entry into your Mastery Program, but I avidly watch as much of the free info you give so generously as I can. Kind regards Barbara Breed
Thank you for sharing your journey of finding your true self as a professional artist. I found this podcast very inspiring. I can really relate to the inner critic and negative thoughts, too. I love that you had the courage to reprogram your thoughts into a more positive direction. ❤
Wow!!! What an incredible video! Every sentence touched me so deeply! I am planning to enroll in Mastery program on September and been following you guys for so long! All your workshops and videos are gold but this one somehow drove me back to my childhood and my deepest heart longings of making even the smallest contribution to a better word. You are certainly world changers and have my love, deepest gratitude and respect ❤
I've been into self help books for years and I has been taking me so long to get there, it might be ADHD. I cannot tell people I'm a professional artist because I don't make enough money from it. I am willing to start a new change a new beginning. BTW, the story says that Van Gogh had schizophrenia and he cut his ear and gave I to a prostitute, when he realized what he did, he was in horror. I don't remember if he knew the woman or not. However the marketing work that his sister in law made after he died was amazing and he is known to the world thanks to her, a widowed that needed money to feed her kids.
It’s like breeding racehorses - the breeding farms receive dividends from horses they sired’s winnings - and also from all the winning horses sired by THAT horse that they bred, and on and on down the lineage of that first winning horse.
we need to quit trying to "find my people " in micro branches of a certain tribe - mentality in order for everyone to feel like they belong to the collective human experience....finding and using the right labels for others and the right descriptions or identity for ourselves is a sad way to spend energy....hobby artist....professional artist...artist persona...real artist....basically the core need is to feel seen and accepted ...is a core universal human experience and the awareness of our need for this in ourselves and others puts the pursuit of validation , through our proper title , to rest ...but then what would happen to podcasts
i have only 2 paintings that i want to create ,one is my vision that i actually saw in real life as a little girl.of seeing Jesus in the clouds with 3 sheep to his right hand side,and a river with all the gems like rubies sapphires peridot diamonds amethysts etc,,,oh how beautiful it could be,i have no way of knowing how to draw or paint them ,wish me luck,thank you
He cut his ear and thats when he had to be institutionalize by his brother teo. He suffered a lot with his mental illness and eventually died from that. It was the begining of his down fall before he even have the chance to really showcase his work to the World.
Listening to Ellie talk is so hard sometimes. She make some solid points but so much of what she says comes from an obvious place of privilege that she seems to be oblivious to.
Well, it’s like how she talks about other artists for instance. Some who don’t create often, making art isn’t cheap, supplies aren’t cheap…I know so many fantastic artists who are in fact struggling and it’s not because they aren’t professionals….it’s because they’re poor. The concept that an artist lacking success is due to them doing something wrong or not trying hard enough is the same concept as “pull yourself up by your bootstraps”. Not every great, deserving artist gets the visibility they deserve just because they try hard.
Thank you, Reyna. I was waiting for someone to say it. I do appreciate Milan's insight. I watched the whole thing, and feel it was worth my time. That said, when successful artists dominate the conversation about the state of a creative industry, you can get a lot of shallow, anecdotal observations from the top. So many hard socio-economic stats and diverse experiences are obscured and silenced. Survivorship bias. Elli also seems somewhat hungry for approval from acquaintances at parties, but that's just the energy I'm sensing. I've always found it interesting how top-earning liberal artists get so conservative, so fast, when they're asked about the other 99%. Judgement Zone, ahoy. The reality is if the working class is struggling, working-class *artists* will also struggle. Why wouldn't they? Without direct economic intervention, they could struggle right out of the competition pool. And in America, they'd be blamed for it. A book I recommend (should you wanna...): William Deresiewicz' "The Death of the Artist". Realer than real, and full of interviews and studies.
You need to listen to her story. They were not privileged and always in abundance. They struggled and had a family to feed. They worked very hard to get to where they're at. The Milan family is an inspiration and seem very generous in providing free content here for us to watch. Their art school also seems to be a great affordable opportunity for artists to grow and earn an income. They will continue to be blessed for everything they're doing! 🙏🏼
@@mariaa8224 Stories are one thing; personal philosophies are one thing; our national economy and it's politics are entirely another. Please understand this is why some of her thoughts may not come off as well.
Her daughter, Demetra Milan and that’s Demetra’s husband interviewing his mother in law. I found them a few weeks ago and I am learning so much from them. If you’re a serious artist or wanna be they give great advice. Hope that help, peace! 😊
No, Vincent cut his almost complete ear off except for the lobe, there is a doctor's drawing of it. The mental stress was becoming too much, he was losing his mind. A girlfriend was not involved, he offered the bloody ear to a prostitute. The letters to Theo are all authentic. My god you people are shallow!
And mark my words: this is why jealous lame tech guys seek to devalue art with AI. AI could have been used differently to maximize the arts, but It is instead being used foo basically and literally devalue art; stagnate culture, control culture and progress. Be aware if this danger and fight it. Educated people who are half to Balme for their ignorance due to gullibility, of the differences between AI and real art, real music, poetry acting etc, and its importance. AI is the ego masturbation trip of all those not so underling jealous regular non artistic people and posers (yes I called it for what it is I am done with it) (who identify as artists but do nothing and mostly find comfort in the identification but not on meeting the requirements). Though there are artists who dont create as often. But they do not have that attitude that marks the reputation of artists.
You need to have at least the same money as how much the whole world people have in total. You have to buy off those wealthy capitalists, business owners, one-crop farm owners, land developers, and just greedy individuals. People is just geared to ruin the world, the world then cleanses itself through natural disasters, wiping out people and resets to a new fresh world. Perhaps the world resets itself before anyone in this world can reforest it. World resetting itself has been the history, we just don't know exactly when, but the global warming and wars on going for resource disputes are just hints we are nearing it.
