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How ZETA GUNDAM Evolved Universal Century (With a Story that Changed EVERYTHING) 

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ZETA GUNDAM is a very different series from the past Gundam anime, you can say that it's more mature... it's a story that Tomino and his crew had more time to plan and execute and even though it's a series that has existed for more than 3 decades, the way that its themes are structured feel very relevant today.
And in this video, Absa tells us why he thinks that Zeta Gundam is one of the best sequels in all of anime and one of the best entries in all of Universal Century since it expanded the panorama for earthnoids and spacenois and even brought a lot of new layers to the conflict between humans, newtypes and mobile suits.
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@blackarotthegreat8191
@blackarotthegreat8191 2 года назад
Almost everyone: Quattro, are you Char Aznable? Quattro: I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude
@epy0nkaru
@epy0nkaru 2 года назад
Are you char? Yes, but also no
@jbark678
@jbark678 3 года назад
Favorite Gundam hands down. Glad it's getting some love.
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
Yes indeed... one of the best entries in all of UC... if not the best. Too bad the compilation movies were not fully redesigned.
@cosmicturban2797
@cosmicturban2797 3 года назад
I'm always stuck between Zeta and Unicorn. Both so amazing for different reasons.
@Sara_Feingold
@Sara_Feingold 3 года назад
@@cosmicturban2797 As much as I loved Unicorn, I have to give the edge to Zeta. Partly because it was a bigger risk for its time than Unicorn, partly because the final 2 episodes of Zeta are my favorite final battle in any Gundam show, partly because Bask/Paptimus/Yazan/Haman is just an incredible cast of awesome antagonists that present so many different ways of being evil. Zeta's stories/characters continuously getting repackaged (most blatantly with 00 season 2 basically being "Zeta with a happy ending" and IBO season 2 basically being "Zeta if Char was guiding AEUG instead of Quattro", and I'm not casting shade on either of those shows for that; IBO is what I recommend these days for people who haven't seen any Gundam before) also makes it more foundational for enjoying the broader breadth of Gundam, though that might change with more time since Unicorn is still fairly new. That all said, Unicorn was fantastic, too! It's my 2nd-favorite UC entry behind Zeta :D (though admittedly I haven't watched every UC Gundam yet)
@johnpaul8938
@johnpaul8938 2 года назад
@@Sara_Feingold yep. Not bashing on IBO but Zeta is in a different league. I guess modern fans and people who’re new into the universe will be biased with that
@anttoz4989
@anttoz4989 3 года назад
"I'm not here to talk about contemporary politics, I'm here to talk about Zeta Gundam" .. same thing bro lol
@KeonVioletWilkins
@KeonVioletWilkins Год назад
The only politics I care about is whichever concerns giant robots.
@Duchess_Van_Hoof
@Duchess_Van_Hoof Год назад
Politics is why I am watching the giant robots.
@Pwnulolumad
@Pwnulolumad Год назад
What’s funny is that the UC plot is 100% political :) nationalist separatist spacenoid colonies wanting sovereignty … with a bit of eugenics thrown in (new types)
@arx3516
@arx3516 9 месяцев назад
​@@KeonVioletWilkinsthen wait until Lockheed Martin and Raytheon start selling them!
@zakuguriin4521
@zakuguriin4521 2 года назад
I think it's implied that Paptimus Scirocco's psychic attack is what destroyed Camille, but I actually think that it's actually a misdirection. I think that Scirocco's attack was actually blocked by the Newtypes who connected with Camille, and they gave to Camille what he always wanted. Camille never wanted to fight and previously always just wanted love and connection with people. At about the middle point of the show Camille got drug through the emotional mud of war and by the mid-end point of the show he has become super delusional, even telling Fa some seriously disturbing comments eluding to him disconnecting from himself, and accepting a role for himself out of his own emotionally shattered and delusional state of mind. Camille at the very end is Camille returning to himself. Sure, he definitely seems amnesiac, but he seems happy and more the Camille he was before the war started.
@abnerdoon4902
@abnerdoon4902 3 года назад
This is the sequel series Star Wars fans wished they had.
@philipbadguy3794
@philipbadguy3794 3 года назад
Fuck star wars this is the sequel gundam seed fans wished they had. Gundam seed destiny was atrocious imo.
@soren2966
@soren2966 3 года назад
@@philipbadguy3794 yes I wish seed destiny was as good as zeta and or the second half of double zeta
@Irrelevant402
@Irrelevant402 2 года назад
Uh it did...it was called The Empire Strikes Back. Edit: Yeah the post originally said 'sequel' not 'sequel series.' And I was a smart ass.
@kishinsa-x5861
@kishinsa-x5861 2 года назад
Philip Badguy - you got that right and then some
@yangwen-li4283
@yangwen-li4283 2 года назад
@@Irrelevant402 i guess he mean Sequel Trilogy.
@donovanstringer7411
@donovanstringer7411 3 года назад
i can't believe i sat through that lol. that just proves how much i enjoyed the video. looking forward to a ZZ analysis!
@linyenchin6773
@linyenchin6773 3 года назад
It's easy, in one word; garbage.
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
Thank you! I tried to talk not only about the events but also the character developments and defining story elements. I's really a great show... but with that said, ZZ is a weird series that I still don't know what angle I want to explore hahah.
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
Haha it's not thaaaat bad... it get's way better in the second half of the series, and even though I prefer Zeta's mecha design, ZZ is a much more complex and bulky mobile suit design. Haman is also a great character.
@federicofilippini6780
@federicofilippini6780 3 года назад
I feel zz gets a bad reputation because people focus too much on the negatives also I see the initial stage of zz as in how Judah and co see the situation they are in, until later on in the second half of the serie where they realize the world is much darker than the rose tinted view they had, also zz had one of the biggest problems an anime can have, the author having big personal problems and also missing voice actors Which contributed in dragging down zz. So yes zz is flawed but is in itself a decent serie
@nicholasmorgan7609
@nicholasmorgan7609 3 года назад
@@federicofilippini6780 why would they have to worry about voice actors when it's not an anime? I know, very original
@wpeniche
@wpeniche 3 года назад
Beltorchikas Children also adds more to Chars development from Quattro to Casaval, worth the read for sure.
@buckroger6456
@buckroger6456 3 года назад
Same with Char's deleted love affair.
@dphalanx7465
@dphalanx7465 2 года назад
I assume you mean the other way around.
@Hafiz_7178
@Hafiz_7178 Месяц назад
I dont watch cca yet.. so should I read beltorchika first before movie?? Also is it okay to skip zz? Im already near half of season..
@wpeniche
@wpeniche Месяц назад
@@Hafiz_7178 I would ready Beltorchikas Children first just so you know what the original story was supposed to be and get all the details that CCA left out, but you can skip ZZ it’s not needed to see why Char became the way he is. Though you can read Chars Deleted Affair since it also fills in some details.
@Hafiz_7178
@Hafiz_7178 Месяц назад
@@wpeniche thanks man!
@sonh788
@sonh788 3 года назад
Series = canon. 3 part movie = kamille mind. Well said. The way sun rise changed the endings to be all happy is like how Disney is doing star wars dirty
@palladiamorsdeus
@palladiamorsdeus 3 года назад
@@amuroray88 He never really had a reason anyway, Chars Midlife Crisis was just Tomino forcing Amuro and Char to fight to the death with a paper thin excuse. They turned Char from a well developed character into a generic villain rehashing the same old colony drop just to have that final fight. I love the mecha design of CCA but man do I hate that story
@dphalanx7465
@dphalanx7465 2 года назад
Is that *really* Sunrise's fault? Given that Tomino dipped in and out of Depression issues between _Ideon_ (1980-81) and _Char's Counterattack_ (1988); isn't it more likely that the _Zeta_ Movies are his attempt to "redeem" the storyline? I have heard a rumor that Tomino included a message in info-book of the original TV DVD box set that basically said, "Don't watch this, this story was not what I intended!"
@user-ci7ku7mh1t
@user-ci7ku7mh1t 2 года назад
@@palladiamorsdeus I heard a theory which says that Char died at the end of Zeta and Char from CCA is a cyber-newtype clone. Doesn't make much sense but it is my headcanon now
@UC1180_
@UC1180_ 2 года назад
Ummmmm this is completely. The ending rewrite was totally on tomino
@Pwnulolumad
@Pwnulolumad Год назад
@@user-ci7ku7mh1tthat’s the bio for full frontal isn’t it ?
@TruthTalk1221
@TruthTalk1221 3 года назад
This was so well thought out and articulate! Thanks for covering one of my favorite series of all time!
@mcdonnellsinc
@mcdonnellsinc 3 года назад
evil begets evil, The Titans are a direct result from the actions of 0083's Stardust.
@perotekku
@perotekku 3 года назад
Really summarizes most of UC Gundam in general. Earth Federation is corrupt, so the Zabi's and later Delaz use violence to try to change it, which leads to the Titans, which leads to the AEUG, which create the power vacuum for Neo Zeon to fill, which then continues off and on until Char's Rebellion. Then the Sleeves, and Mafty later on. Violence and War only beget more of the same, and it takes true courage to lay down the weapons and seek peace.
@trE3E3
@trE3E3 3 года назад
@@perotekku It's more like, Earth Federation is corrupt, zeon tries to use violence to change it, fails, Earth Federation engineer a false flag by dropping a colony on Earth, Titans form, AEUG forms as result of Titan atrocities. Like, 99.999999999% of the problems in UC stem from the Earth Federation.
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 4 месяца назад
@@perotekkuHowever, Cosmo Babylon and Zanscare are borderline giant space fleas in this scenario; but they do lead to CONSENT if you consider G-Saviour canon.
@adrian_veidt
@adrian_veidt 3 года назад
Seed destiny: Can I copy your homework? Zeta: Eh, sure.. what the f*ck are you writing? Is that poop?
@daytimelantern6570
@daytimelantern6570 2 года назад
Woah there bud don't disrespect poop like that
@clarksmith8830
@clarksmith8830 2 года назад
Dumbasses who think the best selling au show is worst than zz, victory, and ibo season 2
@johnpaul8938
@johnpaul8938 2 года назад
🤣
@sierra597
@sierra597 3 года назад
I'd argue that Tomino didn't earn his nickname here but rather on his other series: Space Runaway Ideon
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
I've heard about Ideon but I haven't watched it... is it truly that dark??
@sierra597
@sierra597 3 года назад
@@absa literally everyone dies. It's a spoiler that isn't a spoiler.
@NA-ju4vq
@NA-ju4vq 3 года назад
@@absa Ideon is insane. Watch the kill count videos
@wpeniche
@wpeniche 3 года назад
Agreed, Ideon is what gave him that title.
@NA-ju4vq
@NA-ju4vq 3 года назад
@@wpeniche man he could have just done some research 🤣
@dark_doodle_noodle5867
@dark_doodle_noodle5867 3 года назад
I’ve gotta watch zeta now....
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
Haha it's a must watch if you like Gundam... but you should really check out the first series to get to know the world.
@Shin_Lona
@Shin_Lona 3 года назад
Are those my sunglasses?
@bananian
@bananian 3 года назад
Prepare for depression
@f.d.gallowitz
@f.d.gallowitz 3 года назад
Thank you for making this. I loved it and would love a breakdown of the mechanical designs. Keep up the great work!!!!
@ZBot47
@ZBot47 3 года назад
Great video, man! Your synopsis was very well written. Keep it up.
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
Thank you very much!
@Neethan3247
@Neethan3247 2 года назад
God I do love this show. So much depth in it's Mobile Suit designs, as well as the main characters. Just completed a fourth rewatch last night. Ending is very haunting.
@scottdarrington6009
@scottdarrington6009 3 года назад
Oh, yes, this is beautiful.
@scottdarrington6009
@scottdarrington6009 3 года назад
Calling the humor of the first chunk of ZZ stupid hurt me though, haha. I can definitely see someone getting whiplash if they jumped straight from Zeta to ZZ; I watched a few of the OVAs before ZZ, so that helped things settle in my head a bit and cleanse my palate. Not having the expectation of simply being more Zeta lets you enjoy ZZ for what it wants to be, and I think the initial wacky tone contrasts incredibly with the way the main characters mature and deal with the brutal war they're sucked into. And no one will ever tell me that "I'm Judau Ashta and I'm ... cutting class" isn't the funniest thing that anyone in Gundam has ever said.
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
Hahah ZZ Gundam probably is not that bad as people like to think... I believe the problem is that with Zeta's ending we were all expecting for ZZ to be suuuper serious and dense but Tomini went for a full 180 turn. And even though I loved the super eighties style of Chara, I really didn't appreciate the first half of the series... but as a whole I did liked it. As a matter of fact, I would really love for a compilation movie that removed some of the slapstick humor of the first episodes (you know... all of the bizarre encounters with early Mashymre Cello) and actually told us what was Char doing with Neo Zeon.
@JamesBLonde0059
@JamesBLonde0059 3 года назад
If you think the Titans were bad, wait till you’re introduced to the Zanscare Empire from Victory Gundam. Great review!
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
Thanks! I'm actually about to start Victory... hope it doesn't dissapoint (I want to see for myself the most Tomino Kill'em All series haha)!
@LINKfromTHElegendOFz
@LINKfromTHElegendOFz 3 года назад
@@absa Hope you'll enjoy Victory, don't be discouraged by the first few episodes, some desicisons were made that hurt the first 4.
@alexanderkentopp3070
@alexanderkentopp3070 3 года назад
@@absa Make sure you watch the first 4 episodes in chronological order, not release order
@BladeOfLight16
@BladeOfLight16 3 года назад
@@LINKfromTHElegendOFz Tires completely ruined what little hope _Victory_ had for me, not the first few episodes.
@dphalanx7465
@dphalanx7465 2 года назад
@@absa Nope, still IDEON. In Victory, the bad guys didn't deliberately target/kill women & children from the cast _on screen._
@tedhodge4830
@tedhodge4830 Год назад
Honestly, I don't actually think that Zeta was more mature than the 1979 original. Part of the charm of this franchise is that it has actually done a wonderful job of having surprisingly deep themes. One of my favorite scenes in the original Gundam was when Amuro meets his mother in a field hospital on earth, and two Zeon soldiers arrive. There was a lot that was said in this scene in a remarkably tight package. I also felt the same way when Amuro meets Ramba Ral for the first time, and Ral casually lifts his pancho to find Amuro clutching a pistol under his belt, and just nods. I watched Zeta first, and I was expecting a "kiddy" experience when I went back to the first MSG, and was thoroughly surprised by the emotional and psychological depth from the very first episode. The original show's strongest theme in and of itself was about becoming mature in the midst of an uncompromising situation.
@Kasperthedancer
@Kasperthedancer 8 месяцев назад
Because it was not. In 079 Amuro whined for 1 episode. In Zeta all characters whining for f**king at least 50. There are pointless fights with some unrealistic TransGundamFormers. All young characters do same mistakes 4-5 times. Camille screams 'I cannot just kill people!' and letting his sexual interests go when killing literally hundreds of Zion men and do not gives a f. The plot is very weak and repeats both 079 and Zeta ideas for 2-10 times during the show. For example, Four literally died twice. Nevertheless. first episodes until they leave Earth for the first time is fine + 2 last episodes are also ok.
@gooseabuse
@gooseabuse 8 месяцев назад
I'd say its actually less mature in many ways. The main thing that comes to mind is the villains and their motivations. Zeon on top of being just so aesthetically cool were fighting for independence and had a cool old world charm. Its only later when Gihran Zabi opens up to his father do you see what a psycho he is and even his own father seems to find it distasteful. The titans literally just start punching everyone in the face so you know they're the bad guys. I think the idea of the earth federation abusing its power was good they just expressed it in juvenile ways.
@TawnyFawny
@TawnyFawny 2 года назад
This is an excellent analysis! You’re very articulate and concise!
@rossmeyer2608
@rossmeyer2608 3 года назад
Awesome video. I just finished the series and it’s a good review/summary.
@WiNGCoMM
@WiNGCoMM 2 года назад
Just discovered this video while assembling one of my gunplas. Completely agreed on the love for Zeta, and completely agreed in the charade that was ZZ. And all the video without even mentioning some of the side stories that I loved so much when I watched the show, like what happened to Fraw, the orphans, Kai, La Vie en Rose, Heneken... Zeta is for me the best Gundam show by a far margin, and still the excuse to watch other Gundam shows even when their quality is not exactly at their highest
@hks071
@hks071 3 года назад
Thanks for the research and summary of a very complicated story
@matzaballz_smeckelstein1663
@matzaballz_smeckelstein1663 3 года назад
Stardust memory is actually pretty key to Zeta if you want to really understand the Titans.
@tedhodge4830
@tedhodge4830 Год назад
Not particularly, it was written afterwards by different writers and directors.
@Beatnik59
@Beatnik59 10 месяцев назад
I agree. Probably the hardest transition to make back in 1987 was how dramatically the Federation fell to the corruption and evil of the Titans. Stardust Memory shows us how that evil started, and how it festered. It starts with the violation of the Antarctic Treaty's prohibition on atomic weapons. We see politics play out in Jaburo, with Kowen's faction becoming the fall guys for Federation blunders. When Stardust gets kicked off at Kompei Island and the Naval Review gets nuked, we see the desire for vengeance take hold; Monsha's torture of the Zeon POW in the lower decks of the Albion show us that this isn't a very principled Federation anymore. They cut deals with ruthless criminals like Cima Garahau. By the end of the story, we see folks like Nakohha Nakato start to appear, guys who are willing to pull guns on their own, just to advance the takeover. We see the ruthlessness of Bosk Om as a Federation officer, who uses that Solar System to shoot both Zeon and Federation alike...anything to advance the coup. By the time Stardust Memory ends, we have Kou in a Kangaroo court, Bosk Om and Jamotiov taking their respective places as leaders of the Titans task force, and the transition was complete.
@efratp3800
@efratp3800 3 года назад
W o w , describing the ending of the movie trilogy as a scenario happening in Camille's mind..... Damn. That's a brutal, twisted and extremely interesting theory. I really liked it. Great video👌
@joeji7442
@joeji7442 2 года назад
Well written and presented. Great essay on the series.
@scomdnz9
@scomdnz9 3 года назад
Love your accent my dude. Great video; editing is top notch.
@monteillin2643
@monteillin2643 3 года назад
oh.. and it might have been beneficial in the background to explain the 30 bunch incident which was a major catalyst to the formation of the resistance to Titans, when they nerve gassed an entire colony and killed 30 million people for anti-federation demonstrations. People often equate it with Zion atrocities like Operation British, but IMHO it is much much worse, as the latter atleast happened during a war, whereas the former was in peace times.
@TheFantomsLair
@TheFantomsLair 2 года назад
I'm not even really a "Gundam fan", but I think Zeta Gundam and Kammille's character arc is a masterpiece.
@erdyrahman4176
@erdyrahman4176 3 года назад
I love how many time you emphasis that papatimus is beautiful 😂
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
Flowing violet hair with matching eyes AND sporting a modified man bun before it was cool? Hahah Paptimus is definitively a dashing dude.
@erdyrahman4176
@erdyrahman4176 3 года назад
@@absa yeah his hair game is strong
@palladiamorsdeus
@palladiamorsdeus 3 года назад
@@absa Man buns have never, at any point, been cool.
@dphalanx7465
@dphalanx7465 2 года назад
@@erdyrahman4176 His newtype powers allow him to grow his hair that long--and keep it manageable over long periods in space! Ever notice, he takes his helmet off...and not a hair out of place!
@GeroniMomartinezMG
@GeroniMomartinezMG 3 года назад
Just found your vid, and i love it! Please tell me you'll do the rest of all the gundam animes!
@porkflaps4717
@porkflaps4717 3 года назад
We don't talk that on Jerid around these parts
@ferzap4c
@ferzap4c 2 года назад
The BEST Gundam series hands down! From the characters, storylines, BGM, Opening and Ending Theme. The series would later lay the foundation for series like Gundam Seed, some might even say, Kira Yamato is a clone of Kamile Bidan >.
@seanbrown7011
@seanbrown7011 3 года назад
This was great, keep it up!
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
Thank you very much! And definitively I'll keep on exploring UC... I just don't know how to handle ZZ or what or how to approach that story haha.
@sonh788
@sonh788 3 года назад
Review gundam wing and how weird and extra it is. Loved it as a kid. Watched it again recently and I'm shocked at how ludacris the plot and everything in its universe is 😂
@palladiamorsdeus
@palladiamorsdeus 3 года назад
@@amuroray88 ...that's not even approaching accurate. You've either never seen it or you were in some stuff when you did.
@dartagnanjames8069
@dartagnanjames8069 2 года назад
Zechs in his Tallgeese tho... Still awesome.
@JackTulsen77
@JackTulsen77 2 года назад
The story and script is shit, but the mobile suit designs were perfection
@dartagnanjames8069
@dartagnanjames8069 2 года назад
@@JackTulsen77 I genuinely liked Zechs though. He was pretty cool. The series did have cool characters, but shitty writing overall
@Tuning3434
@Tuning3434 2 года назад
@@JackTulsen77 Mobile suits and atmosphere where nailed, and that is why I have fond nostalgic memories of it. But for a Gundam series, the characters are pretty one-dimensional, like un-Gundam like little development. Also a bit to self-endulgent all around the Operation Meteor / OZ / honour part. Make's Treize Khushrenada look cool initially, but it doesn't take a lot of maturing to realize he is an absolute douchebag and his complete character is based on feasting on teenage edgyness. It's not bad, but imho you are missing out A LOT OF AMAZING stuff if you keep yourself limited to GW.
@Chrisf1990
@Chrisf1990 2 года назад
Great video, man
@cheeseballjh
@cheeseballjh 3 года назад
More gundam content please, subscribed!
@Gengarextreme
@Gengarextreme 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the resume. I only played Gundam Dynasty warriors on the ps3 with my brother and loved the game. I might watch the anime someday
@Eagle1oh7
@Eagle1oh7 3 года назад
Interesting take on the movies and how they fit into the canon.
@Kiyosuki
@Kiyosuki 3 года назад
Really enjoying your retrospectives on these. I agree that second only to the original series, Zeta is probably the most important Gundam series in the broad scheme of things. It's still one of my favorite anime series', even if I will admit that there's plenty about it that maybe hasn't aged as well as some other parts, which is why I was really let down by New Translation's lost potential as a fully updated, streamlined retelling of the series (rather than the weird hodge podge of new animation with old clips and this disjointed attempt to condense the TV series' narrative.). It's a sobering story about how many of the dynamics of the power structure in the Universal Century still went unresolved by the end of the original series, as happy an ending as it was. Also Zeta itself is just an awesome design. I definitely think, if possible, you should cover Double Zeta as well. It might be one of the most divisive Gundam series' of all time (though to be fair, Zeta isn't everyone's cup of tea as well.) but I think it was really important in its own way. It might not have pleased die hard fans at the time, but its appeal to younger viewers (at least initially) did open up Gundam to a whole new age group of Japanese kids who cut their teeth on ZZ, and went in to see the rest from there. I'd say ZZ laid the ground work for Gundams' potentially broader appeal, which for better or for worse is an important milestone. Plus these days, I kind of appreciate the brief tonal whip lash as a break from Zeta's bleak af end. To me, it's seeing things from the new perspective of Judau and the other kids, who in time catch on to the dire stakes of the whole situation as the tone corrects itself back to something more in line with Zeta over time. It's still got plenty of problems and things I wish had gone differently (I strongly feel Amuro should have had a larger role, if ANY role in this series, to show how he got over his fear of space. It feels like there was a whole story related to Amuro's growth from that lost young man he was in Zeta to the grounded leader he is by CCA that we missed out on. I do still also wish Kamille's recovery was a larger plot point and that maybe he returned...but at the same time him exiting stage right makes sense. Also the whole Dublin incident is just a mess imo.) It's funny too that as we see in Unicorn, ZZ has potentially some of the most messed up background plot elements hidden within its mostly lighter tone.
@Tuning3434
@Tuning3434 2 года назад
ZZ became pretty dark halfway, like even darker than Zeta. I will also keep proclaiming it has of the best action scene's in the original UC TV series.
@Beatnik59
@Beatnik59 8 месяцев назад
I agree about the importance of Zeta. If Zeta didn't work, Gundam would have ended right then and there, and we'd have nothing else. The mecha genre advanced so much in those years between MS Gundam and Zeta, the series had to adapt to what was going on, or the fans would forget about Gundam just like Manzinger and Yamato. So many new stories like SDF Macross and Five Star Stories upped the ante considerably. Newer, more elegant designs were needed, including transformables. Edgier characters were needed, especially women. Better animations and fight scenes were needed. And Zeta delivered on all fronts, probably saving the franchise.
@dphalanx7465
@dphalanx7465 2 года назад
A bit of Zeta Gundam triva: The Final Mystery of Z--according to the background materials, the Titans had a huge base in New Guinea. The Aldomura (w/Kamille on board) originally intended to attack the base, but for some reason, was diverted to Hong Kong. So, what was going on in New Guinea during the bulk of the War? Had to have been something important or AEUG/Karaba wouldn't have considered raiding it. The other Mystery takes place during Ep.#36 of the TV Series; the attack on Killimanjaro. There is a close-up of a computer screen near the end of the ep.; on the screen is a scrolling list of all the Cyber-Newtypes controlled by the Titans. The last to appear is Kim Kerin "No.3", who operated out of the Titans' facility at Pyongyang, Korea. Kim does not appear anywhere in the show (I have no idea if she appears in any of the spinoff manga.), and I always wondered what happened to her. Such is the stuff of fanfiction, I suppose...
@ccastro4625
@ccastro4625 3 года назад
I hope that you also do a ZZ, CCA, F91 and Victory Gundam analysis soon
@SunnyDLux
@SunnyDLux 3 года назад
Cool video, you earned my sub
@chrono7511
@chrono7511 3 года назад
Amazing Absha, really Idk about this serie of GUNDAM, recently I noticed the first serie in Crunchy but was unsure to watch due the other sequels or spin-offs. But now this proto-bizarre Jojo GUNDAM gave me the sense of beginning this serie and later enjoy the first. Ufff too minutes but worth it ;v
@scottdarrington6009
@scottdarrington6009 3 года назад
Definitely give the first series a watch! That's definitely the best way to get a taste of Gundam without the hassle of figuring anything else out, haha.
@chrono7511
@chrono7511 3 года назад
Okay, I'll watch but idk when, I wait to think that there will be a C*vid-19 Gundam xd with a pilot ghost ;v. Thanks for the recommendation lololol
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
Haha there really IS a ghost pilot in UC... but I won't spoil. The first series is slow... but to understand the world and maybe even the whole franchise, at some point you need to watch the first series. GundamInfo had the first movie trilogy in their YT page for a time... I don't know if it's still available.
@chrono7511
@chrono7511 3 года назад
It seems that they are not available but for the moment i'm gonna watch the first serie through Crunchy. I'm interested in meka's designs because they reminded me to classic Mazinger Z and Mazinkaiser (not SKL) lolololol. I love the history of anime, which trascends until nowaday
@dphalanx7465
@dphalanx7465 2 года назад
@@chrono7511 Gundam is popularly considered to be the first "Real Robot" show, but the mecha still show a lot of "Super Robot" tropes in their design.
@NewtypeAndy
@NewtypeAndy 2 года назад
Excellent video!
@Fiction_Supreme
@Fiction_Supreme Год назад
My favorite Gundam season. Didn't pull punches and instead loved to twist the knife. Kamille is still my favorite pilot and Char is such a Bro in this season.
@Agito56
@Agito56 3 года назад
Fantastic video!
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
Thank you very much!
@haidarryan3321
@haidarryan3321 3 года назад
the colony laser is basically just a death star withdifferent shape
@nickgennady
@nickgennady 2 года назад
6:40 Anaheim Electronics give out suits to anyone lol.
@jagerzaku9160
@jagerzaku9160 3 года назад
Kamille? That sounds like a girls name!
@toparky2470
@toparky2470 3 года назад
kamile is a boy's name!!!!!!!!
@d3bugged
@d3bugged 3 года назад
Please don't start another space war
@Shin_Lona
@Shin_Lona 3 года назад
* Hops turnstile
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
#KamilleBestBoi
@Predalien195
@Predalien195 3 года назад
Battle Assault was a good game.
@DesGardius-me7gf
@DesGardius-me7gf Год назад
Just finished watching the entire Zeta Gundam series recently.
@Duchess_Van_Hoof
@Duchess_Van_Hoof Год назад
I wanna have a pure time, everyone's a noble mind.
@higgskharmann1040
@higgskharmann1040 3 года назад
It makes it more fun knowing Paptimu's ms was named "The O"
@dennisjackson2867
@dennisjackson2867 3 года назад
The scene where Bright Noah gets beat up is insane
@hadibaharuddin440
@hadibaharuddin440 2 года назад
Bro do Victory gundam next, top quality content from you bro respect
@ArmchairTroop
@ArmchairTroop 3 года назад
So because i'm such a Gundam n00b, I went ahead and watched 'A New Translation' instead of the show. But I did watch some of the actual episodes and this video for more context. Before watching Zeta, I watched the original 0079 trilogy movies. I can safely say I'm up to speed with the whole gundam saga now leading up to Char's Counterattack. I also had no issues understanding the latest UC movie Hathaway.
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 6 месяцев назад
Zeta is great and I love it. It's right up there with 0079 as S-rank Gundam. One thing, however, that I noticed is that it didn't seem particularly well planned out. I feel like this is a problem with a lot of 80s anime, especially from Sunrise. There's a lot of things that should have been explained better. There's a lot of side characters who don't contribute much to the story. There's a lot of subplots that go nowhere or character arcs that abruptly end. Take Jerrid for example. I really expected him to be the Char to Camille's Amuro, but Jerrid never came off as a threat, let alone a rival to Camille. He was constantly incompetent, yet still was treated like he was an ace by the Titans. He didn't even rise to the occasion at the end, dying pretty unceremoniously. The first OP really made it seem like the original side characters from 0079 would play a big part in the show. But they pretty much made glorified cameos then disappeared. If Sunrise and Tomino knew those characters wouldn't be used, why even feature them in the opening? And, like I said, I feel that in a lot of Sunrise anime from the 80s. I really enjoyed Dragonar, but I question why they even bothered creating 3 main pilots when 2 of them could have been written out without having much of an effect on the story. Or how the love interest (the surrogate Sayla) doesn't really do much apart from be the love interest to the hero and sister of the surrogate Char. I assume Sunrise was pretty chaotic at the time, based on the ridiculous amount of anime they produced in the 80s. So maybe the writing was more of a seat of the pants situations and the shows were not well planned before they started pencil to paper.
@connerhazelrigg6332
@connerhazelrigg6332 3 года назад
Good stuff
@Duchess_Van_Hoof
@Duchess_Van_Hoof Год назад
"The ANTI-EARTH Union Group is definitely not a terrorist group, I swear. We would never drop a colony or asteroid on Earth." Maybe they should have picked a different name. Perhaps something related to Olympus or the Greek gods if they are a specifically Anti-Titan group.
@dionysos739
@dionysos739 3 года назад
Great video! I am curious how your Gundam ZZ video will go, as I absolutely despise it with the passion of a thousand suns. I will never stop seething about Gundam ZZ, for the rest of my life.
@OrtadragoonX
@OrtadragoonX Год назад
Why? I get the first half. I don’t like it much myself. But the series gets pretty good during the latter half, and I absolutely love the moments between Haman and Judau; their philosophical debate during their final fight is truly fascinating. Amuro and Char’s debate was much more personal, mixed in with grand ideas. Whereas you can tell that Haman and Judau don’t hold that same level of personal animosity (the series makes it clear that Haman thinks of Judau as the person she wishes she could have been; there’s also some weird romantic attachment there) so it’s all grand ideas. Judau sees Haman for her potential; what she could have been. She could have United the Earth sphere peacefully. It’s one of my favorite Gundam debates.
@cheeseballjh
@cheeseballjh 3 года назад
Gundam content in 2021! Zeta is my personal favorite too.
@bryfunkenstein
@bryfunkenstein 3 года назад
The 'Tee-tahns' pronunciation is only used once ever in CCA
@KurouSakura
@KurouSakura 3 года назад
What is that PS2 game you referred to at the end?
@Duchess_Van_Hoof
@Duchess_Van_Hoof Год назад
This is what I am watching now, about 30 episodes in I think. The early episodes really are an unfocused chore and Kamille is utterly insufferable. Worse, I have no idea why the characters are doing things, why they are going places and what they're plans are. It is just too much a fight of the week. Out of nowhere we visit a gassed colony where Lieutenant Emma realízes the real brutality of the titans. Then we're back to random fights, then the trap at the old Federation headquarters, then more random fights, then two separate female cyber newtypes for Kamille to face and lose. Thus far the writing of Zeta Gundam Define is far superior. More info on the mobile suit designs, actual intrigue, plotting, schemes, and strategy. Everything has a purpose. Although I hear the final third of the anime is really good so looking forward to it.
@xevus2959
@xevus2959 3 года назад
can i get the linkfor the pic or the artist for 27:37?
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
Sure, the artist name's takeda yuuko.
@urban_coyote
@urban_coyote 3 года назад
Ahhh yes, the old Quattro Vajeena. Great analysis of the series!
@klinetalladen
@klinetalladen Год назад
alternate headcanon for you, Absa. they made the zeta trilogy films as a means to retcon ZZ out of existence. with Camille keeping his mind intact, there's no way for Judau to inherit the Zeta and the mission... whereas the rest of the conflict will now be handled through Camille's help instead of Judau.
@gerdanbombales
@gerdanbombales Год назад
Sequels define a franchise and Zeta Gundam created the Gundam Franchise
@MetalShinS0lid
@MetalShinS0lid 3 года назад
I think Teetahnz is pronounced like that because it's supposed to be french. The "z" or "zu" sound at the end doesn't quite correspond but french is the one that sounds the closest to the way it's spoken in the show. Kamille Bidan I think is also supposed to be a french name so I think that's what they were going for.
@papillonrouge2609
@papillonrouge2609 Год назад
Yes, I may be wrong but I read in the wiki that Tomino took inspiration from the French woman sculptor Camille Claudel for Kamille. Then you can find plenty of references to France in Gundam: the space base La vie en rose is named after the song of the famous French singer Edith Piaf, Char Aznable is a tribute to the French singer Charles Aznavour... and I noticed a painting by Renoir in ep 8.
@tedhodge4830
@tedhodge4830 Год назад
@@papillonrouge2609 Kamille was in fact based on Camille Claudel, I found an interview with Tomino where he says exactly this.
@papillonrouge2609
@papillonrouge2609 Год назад
@@tedhodge4830 Yeah, I read it too. And he said interesting things about Camille Claudel and Rodin's relationship looking a bit like Kamille and Zeta's relationship (the translation made it awkward)
@tommaydag420
@tommaydag420 3 года назад
he movies are more of an AU what if.. Kamille's survival (both physical and mental ) completely disrupts ZZ and Char's Counter Attack
@theDrzhivargo
@theDrzhivargo Год назад
may u see the....tears of time
@albundy1485
@albundy1485 3 года назад
They prononce Kamille and Titans, the french way.
@zgmfx-09a
@zgmfx-09a 3 года назад
Theres a fix figuration katoki signature zeta releasing but its not a kit, well never get a ver ka :(
@blacksaint3070
@blacksaint3070 2 года назад
There's also a 3 ending in ZGundam in novel form and out of all 3 the one in the novel is the darkest
@tedhodge4830
@tedhodge4830 Год назад
Where on earth did you find the novel? Is it even possible to find a fan translation?
@blacksaint3070
@blacksaint3070 Год назад
@Ted Hodge it was by accident it was some Emanga site that no longer exist
@ralphjb
@ralphjb 3 года назад
1:06 Actually, his name sounding like a girl's name translates to English very well. In America, Kamille is traditionally a girl's name.
@dphalanx7465
@dphalanx7465 2 года назад
I honestly think AEUG is a lot better than you give them credit for--how could they not be, when their opponents are Space Nazis/NKVD?!?--really, their shadiest actions are how tied they are to Anahiem Electronics. AE is really the "unsung villain" of the UC period--they are pre-WW1 Krupp Arms. They'll build MS for _anybody,_ and War is simply the fastest way to make maximum profit. _Stardust Memories_ drives this home when AE built the series of Gundams for the Federation...and when the Feds didn't want all of them, AE rebuilt the last one and turned around and sold it to the *Delaz Fleet!* That's some serious Balls, business-wise!
@Tuning3434
@Tuning3434 2 года назад
Mwah... Amuro also 'loaned' his Gundam
@SGTSAM101ST
@SGTSAM101ST 2 года назад
I liked that they showed Zeon remnets since i watcted this before Stardust but then they ruined it in double zeta by revealing that the Mineva that Hamman had, wasen't the real Mineva... That really pissed me off
@GiubileiFernando
@GiubileiFernando 2 года назад
I didn't find Char's character arc satisfying in this series and I was sure he would be developed more and have more exposition later, but now I put on Char's Counter Attack and he seems like a completely different character and the whole deal with Haman and Mineva was handled in ZZ without him. Super dissapointed.
@RenStrive
@RenStrive 2 года назад
Have you seen the video game ending?
@black3431
@black3431 2 года назад
Ren Strive which videogame??
@GiubileiFernando
@GiubileiFernando 2 года назад
@@black3431 I think it's a PS1 or PS2 game that has a bonus scene of Char after the end of Z deciding to turn evil
@dealpha3698
@dealpha3698 3 года назад
This my 2nd best gundam series beside 00 plus you can't go wrong with a name "Quattro Vagina"
@dr.johnh.watson2444
@dr.johnh.watson2444 3 года назад
ok I will not watch this vid until I've seen zeta. I just binged thunderbolt btw.
@Duchess_Van_Hoof
@Duchess_Van_Hoof Год назад
The A.E.U.G. being beholden to "investors" make you question the intentions of Anaheim Electronics and whoever else is supporting the protagonists.
@Beatnik59
@Beatnik59 Год назад
The more Gundam we see, the more important Anaheim Electronics becomes to the Universal Century. There is no talk of Anaheim in the original Gundam. Zeta is when we first get introduced to it. Double Zeta makes Anaheim people really important to the plot. In Stardust Memory, Anaheim is portrayed as having its own agenda. And Unicorn? It basically unmasks Anaheim as a greater villain than either the Federation, or Zeon, or anyone ever was.
@ezequieltoranzo838
@ezequieltoranzo838 3 года назад
fun fact: as an spanish speaker, I always wrote the name "Z Gundam" because we pronounce the "Z" as "zeta" anyways.
@kloa4219
@kloa4219 3 года назад
2:40 song?
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
It's from the series' OST, the song is Satellite Orbit Battle theme.
@NA-ju4vq
@NA-ju4vq 3 года назад
My favorite Gundam entry.. Favorite main Gundam. First transformable mobile suit. Top 3 main characters. Strongest newtype in terms of raw power. I wanna have a good time. Everyones a noble mind.
@user-pi1lb4tf2f
@user-pi1lb4tf2f 3 года назад
Maybe Judau is stronger in terms of raw power but Kamille is the better newtype pilot that can utilize super robot powers before unicorn or turn A can reset the battlefield.
@dphalanx7465
@dphalanx7465 2 года назад
That's right, baby! Also, a bit of (now well-known) trivia: American singer/songwriter Neil Sedaka composed the two OP for Zeta. He later rewrote and released the first OP as a single "Better Days Are Coming."
@NA-ju4vq
@NA-ju4vq 2 года назад
@@dphalanx7465 yeah he was a disco composer. The OPS are good
@Cpt.Truckingham
@Cpt.Truckingham 2 года назад
UHHHH…. when Quattro Bajeena was said the subtitles read vagina…
@i.s.a.t.newroman8992
@i.s.a.t.newroman8992 3 года назад
Zeta is great proven that Seed Destiny trying to copy some aspects of Zera but failed miserably. How about UC side stories? For weird reason I really enjoyed them. Especially 08 MS Team because it reminds me of my hometown,
@dphalanx7465
@dphalanx7465 2 года назад
The one side story I really want to see either Translated or Animated is _*Advance of Zeta*!_ It's 3x connected manga mini-series that combine to cover A LOT of "non-main character" action going on during the Zeta War. I think they may have done a Light Novel or two to support it as well.
@PaoloAlexisFalcone
@PaoloAlexisFalcone 3 года назад
The Greeks pronounced Titans “teeh-tans”. The English pronunciation is the weird one actually.
@mr.deodata8280
@mr.deodata8280 3 года назад
Considering they pronounce Ryu as rhye-you and stick with that mistake.
@ToasterNinja
@ToasterNinja 3 года назад
Anglos are infamous for mispronouncing latin words.
@MetalShinS0lid
@MetalShinS0lid 3 года назад
Greeks would have said 'tee-tah-nehs'. Sounds pretty much the same in spanish. Titans sounds more french if you ask me.
@jeremy1601
@jeremy1601 Год назад
@@MetalShinS0lid in spanish Is Titanes without the e (e latin, no e anglo wich Is e and i for latin sound for certains moments) reading Titans. In French idk maybe something like just Ti lol some words in French are worse than anglo words for a hispanic like me.
@dphalanx7465
@dphalanx7465 2 года назад
The "Kill 'em All" Tomino moniker WAS NOT earned by _Zeta Gundam._ Tomino had done a cast wipeout at the end of _Aura Battler Dunbine_ a couple years before. Though the real roots of the nickname came from his tenure on the infamous _Space Runaway IDEON_ (1980-81), which had the most savage ending episodes in all mecha anime. WOMEN & CHILDREN of the cast were regularly targeted by the bad guys...and while some fought, most were *slaughtered*, literally onscreen, in graphic death scenes that never been seen in a mecha show to that date. The bad guys bought it equally hard by the end, in what turned out to be a galaxy-wide mutual annihilation.
@danielgeronimo5538
@danielgeronimo5538 3 года назад
I consider this the Empire Strikes Back of Universal Century Gundam. Not only did it established some of the tropes present in later entries, but in terms of its own story, nobody really ever wins in Zeta Gundam, and that is something few entries down the line could ever replicate.
@martinithechobit
@martinithechobit 2 года назад
Zeta. I cry because damn the nostalgia. Everything was great and not boring, the politics, the factions, the villains and heroes. Edit: But yes I lawl how the main character a child just assisted a terrorist labeled group to steal an expensive war equipment.
@kigas24
@kigas24 3 года назад
Zeta Gundam is an absolute master piece
@julio.dealmeidabranconeto5831
Truly a phenomenal show! Although, it's not as perfect as you make out to be. Let's be real, if the show was reduced to 30 or 26 episodes, it would improve the overall experience, by cutting down the" filler" (fights that happen for no reason and end in a draw, the entire plotline with the girl with purple hair - that was just Four Murasame, but worse And for the third time! - and the one with Jerid's second fridged girlfriend, etc.) And letting the story focus on the important parts.
@Beatnik59
@Beatnik59 Год назад
I agree with you on Rosamia Badam. She started off as an interesting character back on Earth, but it was hard to take her seriously in the second half. I have to disagree about Mouar Pharaoh. Losing her was the thing that send Jerid off the deep end.
@julio.dealmeidabranconeto5831
@@Beatnik59 that's my problem with her. Dying is ALL SHE EVER DOES.
@bluekashus2499
@bluekashus2499 3 года назад
The name probably needs to be pronounced "Camill-ah", that might of been the reasoning behind it but I'm sure there is an obscure paper somewhere in Japan that gives all the details. I first watched it in the English Dub and I figured Camilla is the closest sounding female name that would match Kamille.
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
Camille is actually a french name that can be used for boys and girls... But maybe Tomino didn't knew.
@bluekashus2499
@bluekashus2499 3 года назад
@@absa Great catch, thanks for that bit of info. Hard to know forsure unless he spoke on it in a past interview.
@tedhodge4830
@tedhodge4830 Год назад
Yoshiyuki Tomino confirmed that it was based on the French sculptor Camille Claudel. Quote: "I started getting serious around February of '84. The name Kamille Bidan appeared in my memos around June, and by that point it was definitely serious. Discussion of the next project for the following year would happen around June or July. In order to firm up the plan by then, I'd been searching for a name for the protagonist since the end of spring. I ended up with the name of Camille Claudel, an apprentice of the sculptor Rodin. When I learned about her personal history, I decided to use Camille as a man's name. In fact, everything about the character of Camille Claudel was transferred over to Kamille Bidan. " Translator's Note: These interviews and comments from some of Z Gundam's main creators appeared in the laser disc Mobile Suit Z Gundam Memorial Box Part 1, released in February 1994. The interview with Yoshiyuki Tomino and Hideaki Anno, recorded in November 1993, makes for an interesting comparison with their conversation in the July 1994 issue of "Animage" magazine. You can find a translation of that interview on the Wave Motion Cannon website.
@redeyedshark51
@redeyedshark51 3 года назад
Saw the movies and omg... I saw them twice and I was lost. And I'm not dumb it just very fast paced and I got the gift of it but the fine details were lost on me
@absa
@absa 3 года назад
Yeah, they don't work as well as a summary, they're more like a "best moments with little bits changed" compilation.
@cjh.1920
@cjh.1920 7 месяцев назад
lol bright noa incorruptable? 👀
@xxEmmankunnArt
@xxEmmankunnArt 3 года назад
ZZ is not an anime, well, according to the song 😂
@v1deo.hunter.d317
@v1deo.hunter.d317 Месяц назад
The problem with Zeta Gundam is Chars Attack which completely hardcore ignores/contradicts Zeta Gundam and everything kind of goes off Chars counterattack (except ZZ) which practically takes Z out of canon
@vecturhoff7502
@vecturhoff7502 2 года назад
I hated Zeta, too much drama and information. it's a little bit hard to understand, but nice vídeo, your narration is very good
@TrevRockOne
@TrevRockOne 3 года назад
Zambot 3, Ideon, and Dunbine are all even more kill em all than Zeta.
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