@@hashinici6422 I’m about to buy the ryzn 5800 - 3070 version. Would you recommend ? I’m playing war-zone and streaming twitch. Hearing reviews on heat issues but only on some?
I just bought this omen 30L with 3070 16 gigs of RGB ram 512 ssd ryzen 3600 price was $1299 before tax and shipping 3070s are going for 800$ which is insane.
the passion is what keep me watching. that and my omen running at 107' watching a RU-vid video.. crashes and I hear the jet engine every time i play a casual game of Fortnite.. I really love love love the OMEN 30L. it looks and feels amazing. just the lack of air flow.. i have to leave the side of my case open for it to breathe. I might have to by an air unit and keep my room an ice box to keep it cooler.. idk.
I know this was posted in 2020, but this is still very relevant today with the scalpers selling this very same HP 3080 LHR for 1,500 on ebay. Solid video sir!
I just bought this same PC, plus a LG ultra gear 27 144hz monitor, two sets of RGB mouse and keyboards, condenser mic plus an Xbox elite series 2 controller all for $800. I feel like I hit the jackpot. Yes, it's used, but everything works and that's what matters.
Hello there I just discovered you. I liked your presentation very much. I want to ask a question. I ordered HP Omen 30L GT13-0028ns case. The price of 2200 euro. But I am not sure whether to cancel or not. I will use it for both mining and gaming. What is the core and memory temperature of the Rtx 3080 graphics card inside the case. Does the card perform well? Have you ever done a test? I would be very happy if you reply in a short time. Thank you!
If you are planning to mine with the Omen 30L, its not going to last long, the GPU is good and while gaming rarely goes over 75C, but mining you would be looking over 10-15C, in addition the CPU is running super hot, if you have the I9, and somewhat hot for I7, for I5 is good. So you would need to get a new case and at least 240mm AIO if you are want to have lower temps and silence.
@@HardwareSense Thank you very much for your quick reply! Do you have any idea about GPU's memory temperature values? Can you do the test. I would be very pleased
Hello! I don’t know if you’ll see this or not but I’m considering buying a 30L with rtx 3090 / i9-10900 / 32 GB RAM but im worried I’ll have temperature/noise issues. Do you think I should spring for an i7 and a lower gpu due to the thermal issues you described?
I have the same model 30L incoming 10850k+rtx3080 1. Do you think there is room to drill holes/mount a 240mm aio? 2. Is there room to add an additional 120mm fan to the front for air intake? 3. Can the exhaust fan be exchanged for a larger than 92mm fan? Thanks for posting your video! Super thorough
The first 2 questions, you will have to modify the front to cut a whole for another 12mm fan and use that to add 240mm AIO or 2x12 fans. As for the rear, no nothing above 92mm is possible.
@@HardwareSense thanks ! I'd love to see your next video about the thermals under gaming. I've thought of the same route. If the stock case does not perform well cooling, I may swap to a different case
I've added a 120mm between the PSU and the single intake fan pulling air in, configured the AIO to push/pull with a slim Noctua and I really don't see a way to modify this case that won't void your warranty. Nothing has helped, I actually have to leave the door off and that's so damn loud. Playing CP2077, Graphics load at 98% at 73-75c and processor at about 30% but running 87-89 is silly. Any game that is graphics intensive in the future and takes up more processing will cause this thing to blow your house up. All of that warm air goes right up to the top, and the sole intake fan is essentially consumed by the graphics card so nothing ambient reaches the radiator, it's all post-graphics card HOT air. Returning mine once my Corsair i7200 arrives!
@@marcusaurelius6525 I moved all the parts already in to a better case and added 240mm AIO, temps dropped dramatically, CPU almost never goes to 80, and super silent. The video coming up.
@@HardwareSense that’s great! I can’t wait to see the build! I’ve been shopping for that Corsair case, and decided just to do a return and buy so I keep my warranty.
Great video. I was thinking of upgrading to this for MS Flight Simulator which is very CPU intensive. Thanks to your review, it has slightly put me off given the thermal issues for CPU intensive tasks.
@@DailyQoutes1 Been running for a year now without issues. Biggest issue would be that it makes quite a bit of noise when the GPU is going full throttle (it's silent for normal usage). But I use a noise cancelling headphone so no big issue. Happy with it, would buy it again.
@@jeremiahalmos2643 I added a 120mm case fan at the bottom to pull in air and adjusted the GPU fan curve so it's pretty cool. The CPU has a Cooler Master AIO water cooler which is decent. I wish it had a bit better air flow on the exhaust for the cooler on top but it works. Some 25L and 30Ls have small air coolers on the cpu. Those run hotter and people seem to replace them asap
Very helpful vid I just bought this for Black Friday with a 2060 in it and it’s running great but slightly hot, is that cpu cooler available for purchase or only in the prebuilds?
I wish I read this before I bought my HP Omen 30L. I have mixed feelings and might even take the step of trying to return it. In many ways the Omen is fantastic. Extremely easy to set up, the performance is incredible. It looks great, and during most tasks it is completely silent...most tasks. This PC is marketed as a gaming PC, so I assumed it would be capable of keeping the CPU at acceptable temperatures. While I am not that worried about the CPU running a bit hot, the noice levels is at times completely unacceptable. For most games the noise is just irritating, but for a game like Cyberpunk 2077 it becomes unbearable. My initial plan is to change the 92mm fan in the back with a better one. Then try to change the 120mm fan for the cpu cooler (liquid). Any thoughts on this strategy?
@@HardwareSense Was afraid you would say that, but any chances a set of better fans would reduce the noise? Or are the ones there of such good quality that it will make little difference?
@HardwareSense thank you for your review I am planing to order HP Omen with i7 10700 with RTX 3080 however worrying about noise level and thermal throttling. Do you think it will less loud AIO in i7 model?
A little bit less, but it will still be audible, I have a version with I5 10600K and still can hear it, its fairly quiet compared to the I9, but still.
Great video thanks - Couple questions: 1. Why did you decide to get a SATA3 instead of a 2nd M2 SSD? 2. Is the 2nd M2 slot accessible without removing the 3080?
@@HardwareSense Just to follow up on this my 30L arrived yesterday - I added a 2TB Nvme into the 2nd slot (had to remove the 3080 which required some force for the bracket, as you mentioned) with the 10700K + 3080 config. I tested using cinebench, 3DMark, a few AAA titles. GPU didn't go above 75Cish even at max usage, with most temps around 70C. CPU didn't go above 82Cish even at max usage, with most temps around 75C. Pretty happy with the temps overall, I did order 2 92MM Arctic F9s and a 1 to 3 splitter and plan to add these on the floor as intake fans. Though temps aren't too bad as-is, others have mentioned a few deg lower by adding these intakes on the bottom, and for ~$20 I figured I'd try it out.
Thank you for this. I just preordered one. Are you sure the backplate of the 3080 is metal? I've seen people say it's plastic (which makes no sense to me). Thanks!
I wouldn't be surprised if the engineers saw you and are nodding their heads in frustration because the cooler additional fan design was brought up by them and was nixed on them.
@@HardwareSense Great Thanks! I was debating between a Omen 30L and Alienware Aurora R11 with a 3090. I think based on some of your comments about thermals the R11 might be a more reliable option..
one small question on bestbuy there are several options for the 30L all have different parts but never specify the motherboard will all 30L's have the same motherboard or not? make that 2 questions what is the best graphics card thats $500 and below that i can use on the 30L
Dude same LOL. I still have it in the box because I'm debating whether I want to keep it. I bought it because it was the last one in stock at Microcenter as well. I freaked out for a bit because I read terrible reviews with cooling but realized it was for the i9's. Going to do a bit more research before finally deciding whether to keep it or not. Let me know how it's working for you if you don't mind?
A friend of mine owns a PC repair shop, he said never buy HP. They cheap out all the time. Take the CPU , GPU and power supply and maybe the SSD to another build is your best options there. Imagine having a 10900k & 3080 and making a bad pc that over heats.
I am happy with the RTX 2080 super GPU. Sort of as It runs ridiculously hot. My son will have to be learn to live with it and be content for the time being. I understand why you bought another one, especially since you want the new 3080. Makes sense. You are the HP omen king, Ivan. No doubt. You should have a share of their stock. I picked up two more HP hyper x 8gb sticks of RAM and so now we have 32gb. We also installed MSI afterburner and it has brought the GPU temps down a lot. My son only uses MSI when he uses RTX and/or if a certain game runs between 81c to 87c. With MSI on, the games in question, run in the low to mid 60s. Great point regarding the AIO temp with the I9-10900k. I was going to upgrade but glad I kept the I7. Great video Ivan. Glad to see another omen video. Looking forward to more content.
the one i got must be the newest version cause it has rgb ram and it doesnt over heat that ive notice no problems so far i got the ryzen 7 5800x rtx 3080 1tb ssd 16gb ram from best buy
same, just got one a few days ago, same cpu, rtx 3080ti. rgb ram. didnt overheat no matter what i did to it. gets pretty warm 70~80 on max load. but its bearable
Hi! I hope you don't mind me asking a couple of questions! I am on the verge of getting an omen 30l (i9 10900k/rtx 3090/32gb ram) and I can get it at amazing price with my works discount (the 3080 is out of stock, so the overkill 3090 is my only option anyway). I know the RAM/bios is locked, if I swap the MOBO and case, will I still be able to use it all properly? I'm worried about getting something that I can't eventually upgrade. And honestly, does HP's own brand 3090 hold up against the other 3090's in terms of performance. I'm sorry if I've asked anything you have already answered, I'm at work and can't keep the phone out long enough to watch the whole video. I will watch the video when I get home tonight anyway. Thanks!
Get it, you can change the motherboard and case and gave a great high level desktop, everything is compatible and HP versions for the 3070/3080/3090 are great.
Thank you for covering this computer. I was planning on buying it but decided not to because of the overheating factor. But the information on the fans really helped me gain more knowledge on fans and possibly get a customized one with that kind of fan set up. Do you have any thoughts on the company called CyberPowerPC? They do customized PCs and I am considering on getting one, but there aren’t that many in depth reviews such as this one for those computers so I am still deciding. All I really want to do is play Cyberpunk 2077 on it with raytracing and at ultra settings lol. I love that game but I am currently playing on an older Asus with bad frame rates, lag, and just lower end graphics. 🥴
I wouldn't buy from CyberPower, they use low end components and charge premium. If you find the Omen 30L with those specs for under $2k like I did, it's still a deal. Considering how expensive and not available the RTX 3080 is, and you can always upgrade the case and cooling, which is what I will be doing in less than a week.
@@HardwareSense Unfortunately for me, I don’t know the first thing about upgrading computers, let alone changing the case for them. But I’ll watch the video! I guess my search continues for a computer that doesn’t overheat but has that nice rtx 3080. Thanks for the reply regardless!
this one is currently priced at $3447.42! Btw, I have a similar one with Ryzen 7 5800X which is currently available at 1999 and that runs a lot cooler than these intel cpus.
I just ordered the exact one you got. price went up 100 bucks but i am so excited. I have read a bit about the cpu temps but i figure it's both an amd and aio water cooled. How are you liking it so far?
@@reidjohnson6826 I’ve heard the gpu cooling is good but who knows. The cpu seems to be the problem only on the absolute top end CPU’s so I’m hoping for no troubles!
I ordered mine at Digitec Ryzen 9 5900X GeForce 3080 with 64 Cache for 2.692 CHF there si for the same price an intel Core i9-11900k version. The cheapest version with 3080 costs 2.245 CHF
85C is not bad at all if that's the max tem you are getting, give a try with Cinebench R20 after couple of runs and see what's the final. But if it's 85, not bad and not really worth transferring, I already did the transfer myself and the temps dropped 15C!
Do you have a problem with fan noise? I have the i7-10700K + RTX 3080 combination in my 30L, and the noise while gaming is annoyingly loud, and neverending. The temperatures, however, seem okay.
@@aquilachrysaetos5301 Nothing unusual. My 30L solved his problem by itself. Kinda like my Omen "worked itself in". Now my temperature stay way below 80C with 2k gaming at max settings. But that leads to your question: It's impossible for the fans to be quiet.. It's an i7-10700K and they are using a single radiator to cool it. It's like barely the minimum to cool it so the fans obviously are raging all the time. I always play with a headset so i don't rly hear the loud noises.
@@badibi1 Thanks for the answer. I don't like headsets, but I think I'll get a wireless mouse and keyboard, so that at least the noisy computer won't have to be located right next to my ears. One wonders if the raging fans are built to withstand this high intensity for hour after hour, year after year...
@@aquilachrysaetos5301 That's a good idea! Well HP partnered with Cooler Master for this one and i've never got dissapointed by them.. We're gonna be fine with it. And if not: new case, bigger radiator and one more intake fan.
@@shadowsguardgaming983 which monitor did you get? I might stay with the factory keyboard and mouse for a bit to save up for it. My cousin kept convincing me to do it cause rn building it is almost impossible cause of the graphic card delays and price jacks. I set everything up on my cart and it was sold out, then I refreshed like 6 min after and there was one more left in stock. It was meant to be lmao
I haven't been able to find any exact as to how many M.2 Slots there are? And also what kinds of SSD would you be able to use on the standard motherboard?
So I saw the GT13-0090 with the same specs but the 3090 instead. Recommend at $3200 USD or you think that's too $$$ or reasonable? I feel like it might be $2-300 over.
Yes you are right. My omen 30l is i9-10850K. One 120mm aio fan can't control cpu temperature. XTU undervolting can't control good enough temperature too. It makes me sad.
Which type of Rtx 3080 is actually in the case tho? I’ve been looking everywhere can’t tel if it’s an ASUS TUF or something else with just a custom case around it
Its a custom RTX 3080 from hp. It isnt from a manufacturer such as ASUS or TUF. I think he also mentioned that the manufacturer of the gpu was from Foxconn. Hope this helps 😁
If I'm just gaming with it, should I upgrade anything after I get it gets here? I got it with i7-10700k 512gb NVMe SSD 16 gb 3200 ram xmp RTX 3080 It's been probably 10 years since I last put a rig together so I'm out of date. Would like to do as minimal as possible. Is 16gb ram good enough for gaming these days or should I swap it for a 32gb kit? If I toss in a 2tb NVMe on that second m.2, would that cause any heat problem?
@@HardwareSense awesome thanks! So it wouldn't be too much of a problem just tossing another 16gb kit in and then pop a 2tb NVMe and that should hold me for a while. Are they still not using XMP? Would I need to use the Intel profile?
can you transfer the parts out of the 30l into a new case? i was told i couldn't and i'd have to get all new parts. originally just trying to get a new case motherboard and ram
Hi sir, i've got some q's. If I were to buy this one and remove the cpu/gpu/mem/sdd and place it in a new z590 mobo for another build (new case/cpucooler/psu), can i still reuse this old mobo and psu for another build? like ill place a 10600k, an old rtx 2060 and the other items so that my nephew can use it. Im just thinking of compatibility like i don't know what that motherboard is that's why i'm asking if i can transplant a new and slightly lower spec'd components. Thanks!
I don't suppose one could convince you to take off the cooler and show the bare PCB? For the purposes of finding out if they used a reference board or modified it enough to not be compatible with custom waterblocks? :D
Mounting holes aren't the issue. It's whether or not HP had components shifted around so the metal doesn't fit. You'd need to see the bare PCB without cooler to know for sure. :)
I’m thinking of purchasing this PC for my brother who wants to upgrade from Console to PC. He plays fortnite and Cold War at the moment. Would you recommend this PC? Best Buy has them in stock in my city.
Would it be possible to switch the AIO with an CPU air cooler, and then use the AIO space to add another normal 120mm exhaust fan to make for at better cooling solution. Furthermore can you add an intake fan in the bottom of the case (as the case have a open bottom). With the i7-10700K do you think cooling will be a problem?
@@HardwareSense I have the i7-10700K + RTX 3080 combination in my 30L, and the noise level while gaming is very bad. The temperatures, however, seem okay. I wonder if there is anything I can do with this problem...
@@HardwareSense I'm surprised that a well-respected company like HP sells something like this. They should have provided a decent case with the top tier gear CPU/GPU, where this was not an issue.
@@aquilachrysaetos5301 Unfortunately like every big corporation HP are just covering the bare minimum, and they only care about sales, I am sure there are people inside that want and can design a good cooling solution, but the accountants rule.
@@HardwareSense I got that model of 30L and now I’m a bit worried. I think I’ll upgrade the PSU myself tho. If I get a 750w cooler master one would it be fine? Or is there any other requirement I need to meet for the case
I got mine HP omen with 2x8 3200 hyperx furry could i Just add different Kingston ram with 3200 to it and be no issue. Or do i need to have the exact same ram i already got?
@@HardwareSense ahh okay since i was looking for hyperx furry ram but now find alot of Kingston furry ram. What sort of look the same so was confused about that
Hi! I have Omen 30L but with 12 Cors AMD Ryzen 9 3900 (no X Version ), 32 GB RAM and RTX 2070 Super 8GB GPU. After Running Cinabench, max temp goes up to 80 degrees but after running CPU Stress Test with CPU Z, my CPU went up to 92 degrees. I really love this PC but i don't like this. PC never field but it got a little bit hot. Shoud i give the PC back to HP because i have 2 years of warranty and he is just 4 months on my desk. Tnx
So I got the 30L I got mine for 1500 and it came with a 3060 and a Ryzen 5 but my 3060 has one fan and doesn’t have any branding on it besides the “GeForce rtx” lit logo on the side kinda sus because I’ve never seen such a basic 3060 any ideas on why it’s so different? Been on my mind a lot lately
I reduced my processor to 90% utilization to keep the stupid heat at bay for the older omen. Just because I cannot afford the graphic card due to miner.
@@HardwareSense thank you so much i have no idea why HP made such a strong pc with terrible cooling, i dont know what to do at this point. probably have to get a new case in the future
@@YouAreUnbelievable69 I think that they were misled by Intel in this case, the this AIO is working fine with the 10600 and 10700k CPUs, but the I9s are just way too hot.
There's one in the store near me, it has R9-5900x 12 cores, rtx3080 and 64gb RAM, it has liquid cooling. I've read that Ryzen runs a bit cooler than Intel but is it enough?
Hy, I need some advice I can get a HP Omen 30l Desktop GT13-1804ng for 2.000€ in Austria 5800X and rtx 3080 (AMP), 750W plat psu buut I keep reading that this thing has poor thermals and require modifications, (bad gpu quality, motherboard not sufficient, only 2 120mm fans) I dont know the exact parts on CPU cooler (it just says liqui), GPU (which brand ?), psu, and motherboard. I already have a 3070, 5600X custom build ordered, for the same price. This seems like no brainer regarding the price, but im not too sure about the quality. Thanks M
@@cruz.rylan04 The 40L is a better case, but if the best internals is what you looking for, I.e. Best GPU and if it's not available for the 40L,just get the 30L and transfer the internals to a better case
@@HardwareSense yea Best Buy has the 40L with the 3080 but it’s sold out. I’m not sure if I should wait for it to come back in stock or just go with the 30L
@@HardwareSense what cooling system would you recommend for a lowish price that would help temps? I don't mind the noise, just don't want lower lifespans
I have the hp omen ryzen 7 with rtx 2060 and i ordered another one intel i9 10850k with rtx 3070. Its supposed to be shipping by tomorrow but i have a feeling its going to be delayed
@@HardwareSense the reason i ordered another one is because i went to change the stock cpu cooler with a coolermaster and it was a pain to take the cpu bracket off. Hp used alot of adhesive so i really had to force it off and my computer wouldn't start, thought i killed the mobo. So i ordered another one. Come to find out one slot for memory is faulty so i ordered another case and mobo. Have you ever had to take the brackets off and what is the easiest way?
I want to use a longer graphics card, is it able to remove the hard disk cave (only the second one is sufficent), so that longer graphics card can be put in .
Thanks for posting this video. I'm a bit late to the party but I was looking for videos on the HP Omen 30L with the RTX3080 for some insight. My father bought the exact model you're featuring in this video and asked me to help him out with it. His unit didn't stay cool. His CPU temps were in the 90 to 97c range under load and 70 to 75c idle. Yes, the fans ramped up so loud it sounded like the rig was going to explode. My dad was really concerned. I recommended sending the computer back for a full refund but he wanted to keep the rig because it has a RTX3080 in it but here's the rub. What's the point of paying for a pre-built system with a Core i9, 32GBs of fast RAM and a RTX 3080 if the temps are so high that you can't run it at its full potential if you run it at all? Running at those temps is a great way to nuke your rig. What's the point of paying for a pre-built system when you have to invest even more money to just get it to function properly? It's a kick in the nuts that the Omen 30L RTX3080 has the potential to be a fantastic gaming rig, but because HP cut so many corners that sacrifice cooling, it's a POS rig that's not worth the purchase unless the buyer rips it apart to correct what HP screwed up.
Well the thing is, at today's situation getting a 3080 for that price is still good, considering they are being sold for $2000 on ebay, so investing another $200 for a case and AIO is not a bad idea.
Can you mix the RGB memory and non-RGB memory sticks between the omens? (aka can you take the RGB from your old omen and put them in the empty slots of the new omen) Asking because eBay has both ram types show up from people selling them from their old omens
@@HardwareSense there are one or two new listings per week that specifically show the hp sticker on the ram. Most reference they are pulled from omen 30L models in the description. My Omen 30L with a 3080 is finally showing up next week (I’ve been waiting since November) I will try and report back.
@@HardwareSense I'm happy to report that my Omen finally arrived and I was able to mix RGB and non-RGB HP RAM - The omen came with 2x 8gb sticks of non RGB (P/N L75926) that were in slots 1 & 3. Initially put the RGB RAM (P/N L75928) in the already empty slots (2 & 4) but got beep codes from the motherboard. I re-tried, putting the RGB Ram in slots 1 & 2 and the non-rgb into 3 & 4...Wild Success! All 4 slots are detected and show as operating at 3200 - the two RGB's even light up and are detected in the Omen gaming hub - for $60 off eBay it's a great option IMHO
@@TK-mj9rd Excellent, I actually just bought 2x8gb rgb from ebay as well, can't be happier, considering that I paid $100 and kit is $330 at HP . So now I will bump the other Omen 30L from 16 to 32gb as well, all RGB.
The wors is the Mainboard. Saving maybe cents, so i can't plug in an other FAN or SATA Drive... Incredibly stupid to pair such a board with a B550 Chipset . The only reason to buy was the price. 5800x +3080 for 1900$
Hello, I bought this PC to install the 3080 in another PC. Thank you for your explanation how to remove the graphics card.But I have a problem, I have installed another graphics card GTX 670 in the omen and nothing, it demounts but no display, I installed another graphics card without power and the same one. I haven't installed the 3080 on my other pc yet, I'm waiting for a more powerfull power supply. Why doesn't the omen work with another graphic card ? And will the 3080 work on my other computer ? I know how to set up PCs but I'm confused. Thanks.
Hi there, I actually was just debating should I make a video about this as well, as I just recently faced the same exact issue, wanting to test some older GPUs. The fix is very easy, just go to the bios and enable legacy support, there are not too many options there there, so you wont miss it. After that you can install the older card with no issues.
Thank you for responding so quickly. I put the 3080 back on and it works again. I've been in the bios (F10) and there is no legacy option. I'm really frustrated, I don't know if the RTX 2070 will work. The 8030 is normally compatible with another machine I hope?
@@christopheherbots2218 I will let you know what the exact name of the option is when I get home in an hour, it easy to spot. But yes in general 2070 would work without changes.
Hey man, got the same PC, two times. Do you have any idea what the model name of the RTX 3080 is? I am trying to change the thermal pads since it gets way too hot, but it has a baseplate which I have no idea how to remove. Would be great if you have any idea about the name of the GPU! Thanks :)
@@HardwareSense Changing the thermal paste actually did stop my GPUs from throtteling, however changing the pads is not possible for me right now since the baseplate is covering them. :/ And I kind of have to change them since the temps are still too high for me to be comfortable
@@HardwareSense well i am thinking about buying the new 30 L, which has no RGB lights for Ram. And one of Geforce cards HP has on its options. What do you think about that? Im getting core i7 not 9. So that liquid cooling system should be enough. Also not into gaming alot
@@mgh39 Yes the I7 is somewhat well controlled, you will see temps in the 80's during games, but that's not really an issue, especially if you are not gaming a lot
I'm going to install a second NVMe drive soon. I'm looking at it, and given how big the RTX3080 is, wouldn't it make more sense to remove the PSU to gain access to the NVMe slot? What do you think?
@@HardwareSense How do I go about removing the video card? There's this sag guard. I got the two screws off but it looks like its hooked into the case and I can't get the thing to budge
@@sync7512 Definitely not worth the almost $3000 they are asking for it now, if you can find it for around $2000, yes. But I think the Lenovo T7 is a much better buy, video coming up on it soon. And yes, replacing the motherboard will be possible and good, but that will essentially make it a custom PC
I have the I-9 10900k CPU and it's a slugfest when it gets hot. Stuttering becomes unbearable and unplayable for games. If you are planning to get this case, be careful with the CPU you get inside, you are warned.
@@HardwareSense is yours liquid cooled? And would the liquid cooled version be better on the cpu temp? Or do I think either way it will run hot. Thanks
