Great video. Thank you for that. I bought one and installed a baffle using the same screw holes that secures the stove pipe collar. I'll post a vid shortly. I also insulated the bottom using two layers of a welding blanket covered by a sheet of stainless steel. Keep up the great work... LJ
I like the baffle idea. I may have to try it after checking out your video to see how you did it. Thanks for your input, I love hearing ideas about these little stoves. They really are about to achieve cult status in preparedness circles. LOL!
You are absolutely right! Also... I am considering using some flat insulation to make the door air tight... I'll let you know on that too. LJ We are three generations of combat veterans.
Thanks Bro! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well. Maybe Santa will bring you one of these wood stoves for Christmas, of course that would be contingent on which list you made.
I recently bought one of these stoves and it's perfect for my 12 x 12 tent . I used it on a 20 degree night and was toasty! It is also built like a tank! ps. no stinky paint smell either!
I think, for the money, they are really hard to beat. Time will tell, but it wouldn't surprise me if in a few years we hear people talk about how their stove is still going strong. Thanks for the comment!
@@foxfirevalleyvineyrd I have this stove added a great from tractor supply. Cut a 8in hole in the bottom with a removable plate to clean out works great
Excellent! Feel free to leave some feedback letting us know what you like and dislike about the stove. I would be good to get an update on this years quality on these units.
Yep, it's not perfect, but for the money it's hard to beat. People have made some beneficial upgrades to them. You can see some of them reading through the comments. So, far I have been very pleased with my unit. Thanks for the watching!
Thank you for this vid. I was looking at these over at the Sportsman's Guide web page (I love Sportsman's Guide!) and I was wondering about getting one. I did see the little gap in between the door and the box but I was thinking the exact thing you said in the description; some firebox gasket will fix it right up.
Do you think, if I built this into a permanent outdoor BBQ structure, I could fabricate an oven on top of it, and ALSO have a flat cook top too? How do you think that would work?
I bet you could do the oven thing. That sounds like a really good idea. I'm not sure if it would generate enough heat to go through the oven and cook on top. If you try it let me know. I really like that oven thing. Sounds like a good place to cook a little bread.
Do you think it can be installed in a mobile home (at the proper location and appropriate floor mat/backer board? No cooking at all with it but just for heating during winter.
I have one of the military stoves. I am not impressed. I wish the HQ would have been available a few years back, looks much better built. Great review you did.
Thanks, yep I have both and I like both, but I do find myself gravitating towards the HQ stove when I want to use one. I guess I just like the fact that it's metal is thicker, thus I feel a bit safer using it. Getting cooler, about time to fire it up!
It would be hard to replace a campfire, but I can tell you I have started many fires in it, propped myself up in a chair in front of the open door in lieu of starting a campfire. For one person it works good for that.
Backwards stove pipes, creosote will run down the outside of the stove pipes. Gas and oil flues are run that way, wood stove pipes are run so the creosote runs down the inside back into the stove.
That seems to be the common complaint with the piping. I haven't really had a had issue yet. I have seen a small amount of creosote seepage, but nothing that causes me concern. It would be nice though if they would turn the piping around.
Nice video, I noticed on both stoves the flu pipe is upside down allowing creosaut to run onto the outside of the stove, do you have that problem? Do you burn these stoves a lot to test this? Thanks again for the video.
I have had that problem with the military stove, but I haven't burned the HQ stove enough to make that determination. With the military tent stove, on my unit, the creosote seeps out in small amounts where the piping connects to the stove barrel. It is more of an annoyance than anything. On the HQ stove I am hoping that, since the piping is larger, creosote won't be as big an issue, but if it turns out to be I will definitely update the post. Thanks!
I also have the HQ Issue and creosote hasn't really been an issue since I burn mostly hardwood. Since the pipe comes apart so easily it's super easy to clean. Great video by the way!
I can only tell you my thoughts on that. A tent stove is portable and packable where a woodstove is bigger, heavier and more of a permanent fixture. That would be my definition, but I imagine there are others that would have a better definition. As far as size and numbers a tent stove would need to small enough to put in your pack without adding a tremendous amount of weight.
nice stove and good video, how well do you think it would work for heating a tent or rv or something like that? I'm building a camper and I want a couple different ways to heat and cook (propane and wood) so if needed I can use wood to conserve the propane,
I would probably use it for a big tent. However, it should be noted that it is billed as an outdoor stove. Evidently the builders don't believe it is suitable for enclosures. I have thought about putting mine in a shed that I have, but I haven't made up my mind on it yet.
Thanks for the video... just got one for my camp. I have a small cabin 12x24. Hoping it works well to heat it up. I know it's an outdoor stove. Think it would be ok for inside my cabin?
The manufacturer says not to use it inside, so we know that they don't think it is ok for a cabin, so I'll default to them on that. I would think that a stove this size would heat a cabin that size without too much difficulty. If I were to try it I would definitely make sure that the door closed well. I haven't heard anyone yet say that the door closed flush on these. Maybe some fireplace gasket or high temperature caulk would do the job. I would probably also lay some fire brick in the bottom of the stove. Just my thoughts. If you do it be careful.
You know, I look at stuff like this and ask myself, "Why can't this be made in America?" The answer is "It should be". There is no reason why we can't make little stoves like this here in our own country, and one thing would be for sure, they would be better made.
That's a good question. I guess it boils down to use. If I had a semi-permanent structure I was heating I would go with the HQ stove, but if I were doing a pack-in pack-out scenario I would probably go with the TMS. The HQ stove is a lot heavier and will probably outlast the TMS by many years, however, TMS stoves are just so freaking convenient with the racks turning into handles and being so light. If I am doing a lot of cooking the HQ stove is much easier to cook with as it distributes heat in the pan better, but the racks on the TMS allow me to set the pan away from the heat while still keeping my food or coffee warm. Leo, obviously I haven't answered your question - I have failed you. LOL! I like both of my stoves, but for different reasons.
foxfirevalleyvineyrd well, I think I'll just get one and see for myself. I appreciate your honesty, and I understand about the two stoves having both positive and negative points.
How's your little HQ stove holding up? I have one coming tomorrow. I had that military style one a long time ago and didn't care for cooking on it much. I can't wait to try this HQ!
It's holding up pretty good. Having used off and on going on three years it does now build up a little rust during the summer, but usually it gets rid of most after a burn.
Loved the video. I plan to buy one of these two stoves. I'd love to hear your opinion on which of the two you'd go with. It would be stationary and not have to be portable.
Thank you. I heard that Owl in your video. I have one that makes the same sound in the woods behind my house. I dont live in the country like you, I live in the city. Do you know what kind of Owl it is?
Hey Fox, I just purchased one of these stoves for my shed, and I am going to wait till it gets here to order the pipes that I will have to use to install it. I am thinking about using the 3" Premium Single Wall Steel Black Stove Pipe for the 8' run to get me to the outside wall. The main reason that I am not sending the pipe straight out the wall is that I want the pipes to heat up the shed before the hot smoke goes out. I will also use the 3-Inch Pellet Wall Thimble to get the pipes through the wall with all of the necessary elbow pieces etc.. I have a couple of questions for you. First: Will the standard 3" single wall steel pipe from HD work to extend the pipe to the outside? Second: did you notice any smoke leaking when you were running the stove? (since this is going to be inside). I did find several videos on youtube from people that installed the stove in "timyhomes" but none of them has come back after the initial installation to leave comments about the functionality of the stove in a home. Thank you very much.
I think the piping is larger than 3 inches, so if I were you I would definitely wait until it comes in before making additional purchases. I have heard some people complain that the pipe size is very hard to come by, however, I read where an individual solved this problem by getting pipe from a muffler shop - I thought that pretty creative. As far as smoke leaking, I have only had smoke leak from the front door because it doesn't have a tight seal. I've been procrastinating about putting some heat resistant sealer around the door, I need to get that done.
Thank you very much, I will wait to get the stove, and hopefully I will be able to get some sort of pipes to fit the existing pipes that the stove comes with. Thank you very much for answering the question.
Here is a reply from the reseller: "You can "purchase" more flue pipe and/or elbows by taking an existing flue pipe section to an auto or truck muffler shop and having them match the normal pipe diameter plus the "swaged" pipe diameter (female end)." • Item Number: 648081 • Pipe Diameter: 3.375" • Total Pipe Length: 77.5" • Firebox Dimensions 11.75"w. x 16.25"d. x 10.75"h. • Overall Dimensions: 17.75" x 11.75" x 16.25"h, 7'10"h. including pipe • Weight: 47 lbs.
thank you for the review Im just about to buy the same stove for my 10x2 wall tent. the cooking is good but what about heating a 120 sqf tent space? did you use it in a cabin or tent? let me know, thanks again
I haven't used it for either yet, but hope to in a small log cabin. I've got the logs cut, just need to make it happen. I would think this unit wouldn't have any trouble heating 120 square feet, but count on having to do something about the door. Seems these are notorious for not closing tightly against the box. I looked at the sportman's guide wall tent video on their website and they are using the HQ stove in that video. Seems like a pretty good set up.
Thank you for the advice. The picture you see me is from my 12x16 deck in Talkeetna Alaska, the tent is10 x12 leaving me a nice 4 feet porch. I am goin to order the HQ stove for this end of the summer trip. I think is a good deal. Thanks again.
Foxfire or anyone who can help wondering between what 2 stoves u have what one is better to heat like a shed an also cook on but also dry gloves or something thanks
In my opinion the military barrel type stove is better for drying gloves/clothing because of the rack. For cooking and heating I do like the HQ stove better.
I think it would have room to put some heat resistant gasket, but I'm thinking that's going to be on a case by case basis as I suspect the gap is different on them all.
The overlap is insufficient. I had mine modified by my black-smith so thet the door itself hit the body. Forget about insulation, it falls off after 3 months, if outdoor!
Jiujitsu2000 is awesome. I learned how to reload watching his vids. If you go to sportsmans guide to purchase you might want to look at the new large outdoor stove they have. Seems they may have taken care of some of the issues the small stove had, but it is a bit higher.
foxfirevalleyvineyrd I have a small polish lavvu that I'm currently making some mods. To. The stove needs to be TINY.. as of now, I'm looking at making one out of a .50 cal ammo box and using 2 inch exhaust pipe as the chimney
I purchased mine at sportmansguide.com this model is presently 99 bucks, but they have other stoves as well. Just enter "wood stove" in their search feature and several different stoves, including the big brother to this one, will show up. Hope you enjoy it!
was trying to get contact info for the company but no luck. anybody? it would be a lot of work to replace the front draft, but end result would be neat.
Yep, I agree. I'm in the buyer's club. The prices are average to good, but what I really like is the four pay plan. It gives me four months to spread payments on a purchase and it keeps my wife from going into shock. LOL!
Hi! I bought this stove from Sportsman's Guide through Amazon. When I opened it yesterday, it looked fine but unfortunately contained no nuts and bolts to put it together. Nor was there a set of instructions containing a list of parts. I called Sportsman's and their solution is to take back the entire stove and ship me another one. Aside from that taking about a month, it seems to be a genuinely ... um, dorky solution. Since you put one together, could you tell me what size fasteners to buy? For the chimney flange attachment, did you put the nut on the inside or externally? Thanks for any help you can give, Joanie
Oh wow, that surprises me. This is a heavy item. Not a good solution advising to send it back. You probably could go to the hardware store and pick up the nuts and bolts that you needed, but ya, you shouldn't have to go through all that.
Hopefully that will work. Let us know if it does. I'm sure others will find those bolt sizes handy should they receive one without bolts as well. Thanks!
Wildo, thanks for the heads-up. That will give another avenue of research for those wanting to buy one. I did notice that sportsman's guide has backordered them, but I also notice that they have changed their anticipated availability date from 03/03 to 03/10. Hopefully that date won't keep moving. Their price has gone back up too. Still buying one in March and saving it for next winter could be a good plan.
The manufacture doesn't recommend using it as an indoor heat source, but I plan on using it in a large teepee this year and maybe a small (and airy) log cabin next year. The piping, while larger than many outdoor stoves, is (in my opinion) to small for inside use. I think the creosote would be a constant battle. If I were going to heat a house on a budget I would go with a box stove. In the past I have used a box stove to heat a house and the design is tried and true. Places like Rural King can fix you up with a box stove for around $300 bucks, but I have seen used ones go for as little as $100 dollars. I have been thinking about getting a box stove for the house I live in now as a back-up should the grid go down for an extended period. Merry Christmas to you guys too! Maybe Santa will bring you a box stove for Christmas, however, I suspect his sleigh has weight limitations.
This was my question too. I appreciate that you read comments and take the time to answer intelligent questions intelligently. Two thumbs up for that and a good video that gives a good feel for the stove.
I enjoy, I don't wish for the cold weather to return, but I do enjoy using the little stove. The flat top is very good for cooking, but it is small, so space is limited.
Something about wood burning that make me think of life.. watching wood burn remind of us human. Can turn into dust..., say good bye to alot of things... 9:05. Quite time& hunted time
Mine just arrived this afternoon and I already have it setup and going to do a burn in outside here in an hour or so. My door shuts nice but of course not airtight but I can get it there. I'm going to use some smaller flat door rope gasket material for that. I did have to tweak the door latch and vent slides which I think Fed Ex bent shipping by the looks of it. Seems to be a great little bang for the buck. $119 with free shipping and I got it in 3 days. I'm impressed with it for what it is. I also plan to use it for multiple things. BTW, 3 inch pellet stove pipe fits it.
I haven't seen any options to purchase additional pipe, however, some in the comments have noted that they were able to go to a muffler shop and get the pipe they needed.
I seen that the door doesn't shut tight what I would have done I will got some wood stove fiberglass seal the flats fiberglass and put some heat resistant glue around the door and paste that fiberglass on the door
I don't know, the manufacturer says it's not for inside use. My opinion, if I were going to try to use it in a camper I would find a way to seal the door tight. The review on these units say the doors don't fit tight, and I can vouch for that with my unit. I would probably consider putting on some type of gasket or using Rutlands high heat silicon sealer, or something similar. I would also put fire brick in the bottom of it. But back to your question "would it be safe"? I think it is questionable. I would probably go with a Cubic Wood Stove. With a Cubic Wood Stove I think I could go to sleep, with a HQ stove I would always wonder if I should go to sleep.
Thank you for your time Sir..I will go with a Mini Cube Stove .I have been looking at them lately.They aren't to expensive $345.00 for the Mini stove vs 79.99 for the Item you purchased is why I asked .
I know this sounds crazy but I want to put one in my cabin is there anyway to buy some sort of an adapter that I could vent it out sideways out of my cabin instead of out of the roof I know that pipe looks kind of small what's the size of that pipe and do they make any kind of adapter that I can you know make it go bigger outside the wall looks like some heavy-duty pipe came with that
You might check out the comments below. I have heard some say that they went to a muffler shop and got the pipe that they needed to vent it. I also think the comments have the size measurement of the pipe. I haven't put mine in a building, just using it outside for now.
