HTC still didn't produce a phone that worth replacing the good old 2013's LG G2 IMO. Even the HTC 10..it's OK but still not worth the upgrade.. at least the G5 has the wide angle camera. I just installed CM13 on the G2 and I can't really justify the HTC10.. faster CPU? meh ..(unless you're a phone heavy gamer).
+TheGoodguyperson A9 wasn't a mistake, it was just a mid-range phone. If you look on www.phonearena.com/htc/new-phones , you can see that they release tons of iterations of all kinds of devices. This is every year. The A9 is a great little phone for people that want HTC quality build but a less expensive feature set. Still has an AMOLED screen, better camera than the M9, fingerprint scanner, etc. Basically M9 was the misstep, because it was the flagship phone. A9 did exactly what it was supposed to do, and actually had positive sales and got HTC a little back on track ahead of Vive and the 10.
+Pocketnow When you mention fast charging : LG G5 , 55 % you mentioned in 30 minutes has to be using 2.0 charger not 3.0 which LG G5 utilizes and charges more than 80 % in 30 minutes. USER BE INFORMED ABOUT THIS.
+Pocketnow great video! but can you change place to shoot the video. sick of that boring table and that gray curtain! Jaime's video is a lot more interesting ...
The G5 tried to copy HTC just like the iPhone did. LG featured a metal body, dual camera sensors, and then added a powerful DAC and amp for hi-res audio yet on the LG you'll have to buy the after market attachment to get hi-res audio, Amp and DAC, while with HTC the AMP/DAC are already built in and don't cost extra money.
Nice review! Still using my HTC One M8 with Nova Launcher. I like HTC's implementation of the home button. It has no mechanical switch so it won't wear out, but being in the bezel, doesn't take up space on the screen. That being said, I'm going to miss the stereo speakers. Granted, I didn't use them often, but having front-facing speakers and have stereo channels did make a very pleasant difference when compared to my tablet with only one speaker. Very quick question, and I apologize if it's slightly out of left field: what is that stylus you guys are using in the video? I'm very intrigued by its thin tip.
+Glenn Mark Cruz lol, Sony will probably pull a Sony again. First they pull a 4k screen only to realise that the resolution war have not reached that stage, Then they pull a HDR 1080p screen which seems too niche, as a Sony fanboy, I dun know anymore, I guess I will stay with my z3(the dual dac is amazing, wish they would bring it back)
I'm really torn on which one to get as both have their pros and cons. I prefer the design of the G5 although I'm kind of concerned about the build quality after seeing/hearing so much how bad it is. I also really like the fact I can swap batteries with the G5 as well as being almost €100 cheaper than the 10. The 10 on the other hand has better software and significantly better audio from the headphone jack which I deem rather important. I also really dig the fact you keep your warranty even after rooting the phone as that's something I'll surely do. The durability also seems better as of now. Any help would be appreciated.
+Tim Kuipers If you manage to get past the camera difference (where LG seems to perform slightly better), HTC is better in every way. I don't know about you, but I think the HTC 10 is one of the best designed phones (personally I think it's the best), so you shouldn't concern about design or build quality. You can also get HTC 10 for $599 using coupon HTC1008 or HTC1009 in the US.
Same. The HTC is an extremely solid device. Hard to find anything to dislike. Only thing that bothers me is the position of the buttons on the bottom bezel lol.
I was proud to be within your last 5 subs before 30k a few months ago (on your own channel)...but then I left. Seeing your fantastic videos here, I don't see why I did. I'm still waiting for that HTC 10 camera review :)
Well, on the quality front, you may not wish to neglect HTC over Samsung. Samsung overall uses a cheap body, the more exaggerated Amoled screen, those weird italicized fonts and the back design with a square shaped camera. Maybe sales wise the Samsung is at the top but when it comes to quality, and if you really have known the history of smartphones, you may wish to consider iPhone and HTC as the top brands globally
shrikant kallur This is what people don't appreciate nowdays. They fall for all the marketing hype that companies like Samsung and Apple create. I mean on every corner of the street their is an ad for a Galaxy or iPhone so what people think is that those products are the best cause they are everywhere. I for one haven't regret the decision to buy the 10 even after a year while when I had Galaxy phones at about 4 to 6 months I was thinking to upgrade.
shrikant kallur This is what people don't appreciate nowdays. They fall for all the marketing hype that companies like Samsung and Apple create. I mean on every corner of the street their is an ad for a Galaxy or iPhone so what people think is that those products are the best cause they are everywhere. I for one haven't regret the decision to buy the 10 even after a year while when I had Galaxy phones at about 4 to 6 months I was thinking to upgrade.
It's sad that almost every flagship out now has copied HTC ! Dual camera sensors, live photos, all metal body, antenna bands, 5MP front camera, hi-res audio with powerful amp and dac, front facing speakers, etc... I mean the iPhone, lg, and Samsung have all copied HTC... HTC has led the smartphone organization to what it is today ever since they developed the first Android phone (even before the iPhone).
+Son Goli It matters because people have criticized HTC for their ideas and features, yet almost every phone on the market has copied copied what HTC is doing...
+Stoyan Nikolov I don't think you can really compare them over a video though. Personally I'd have to lay them both side-by-side in front of me to pass judgement. Especially if the bottom HTC speaker is a subwoofer, can't judge that over youtube at all.
***** the video is for reference only, but if you can't tell which one is better then HTC's hype for the "Boomsound" is irrelevant. LG doesn't put fancy names, they just get them job properly done.
Stoyan Nikolov The LG was louder, but the HTC had more depth. Again, you can't really tell unless you are there in the flesh. Recording sound with a camera never ends well.
Awesome comparison, Juan. I picked up a G5 and I really don't understand all the hate that phone is getting. I don't have any of the build quality issues on my unit and it's a solid performer. Idle battery drain is minimal and I actually like the way it feels in my hand. I find the wide angle lens to be more useful than a lot of camera features, too. I originally pre-ordered an HTC 10, but canceled it. looks like a great phone overall and I'm really glad to see HTC addressing most of our concerns, but I feel like the G5 just offers more for me. I don't really care about the "friends", but a replaceable battery is always good.
+Will Frame Right on man. Glad you're digging it. I think part of the concern with LG stems from how poorly they handled the bootlooping issue on the G4 and now G5's are built with "varying" quality. Not to say individual phones might not be terrific, but in general, I understand why there might be some apprehension.
+Dwilsonmusic145 When you mention fast charging : LG G5 , 55 % you mentioned in 30 minutes has to be using 2.0 charger not 3.0 which LG G5 utilizes and charges more than 80 % in 30 minutes. USER BE INFORMED ABOUT THIS.
+Tom Potts Yeah. I just got used to it on Samsungs, and I hit back with my right thumb more often than I need to use multi-tasking, so I keep coming back to that when I can.
+JuanBagnell as always :) your videos are joy to watch. You cover all important aspects and put up an interesting video to watch. Waiting for a comparison between htc 10 and sammy's 7
Agreed. The decision will come down to which phone best executes your favourite features. HTC 10 for me adaptive storage, app standardisation, build quality, SD Card.
+SavageArfad has to be noted that the Lenovo Vibe X3 supports Dolby Atmos with dedicated Amp and DAC built in. I also notice that the Lenovo Is way louder than the HTC on speakers, but I would like a fair "in depth" comparison
I can't decide whether to get the htc 10 or the S7 edge. I love the S7 camera, waterproofing, and waterproofing, but I love the htc 10 software. I get it if you're a fanboy but please read this comment and choose what would be best for me instead what you want to be best for me.
Simple question: RAW shooting... On the M9 the difference between auto and RAW means a camera everybody describes and actual proper pictures. Even the auto-jpg created when shooting RAW is far superior than the full auto option.
getting excited for the 10.... Maybe I'm one of the few, but I really like my LG G3. It's been great for me and one as excited for the G5. Man, what a letdown...... Then I read about the 10 and now I have something to look forward to. If HTC tweets the camera and the audio is as good as the tests show, the 10 will be my next phone. I think it looks amazing and high end. I remember how much I loved both of my EVO's before I left Sprint.
HTC received the best DXOMARK score of any phone to date, this is because it proves the most capable in most situations. Due to its larger pixels it's images can seem overly bright, but as I said, it's as simple as a tap on the image to focus and adjust the brightness.... Some phones do better as point and shoot cameras, but HTC is amazing if you are familiar with how to work HTC cameras..
What a good morning to wake up to a wonderful video :D Niiiiiiiice! Great comparison! though I'm looking forward to your camera battle walking stabilization test :P I've seen the HTC 10 video stabilization and it's far superior than LG's normal camera, you don't get that pulling effect on the edges. Didn't know you were a fan of Batteries not included! one of my fav movies growing up as a kid, also Explorers, flight of the Navigator, Short Circuit, Cocoon, and who can forget Back to the Future ;) lol. Since they both have usb-c 3.1, have you tried any tests hooking them up together? one powers the other? data transfer? usb-c hdmi out? I'm curious! :D Great vids as usual!
+Kyle Ruggles Add _Cloak & Dagger_ and _D.A.R.Y.L._ to that movie list and I'm RIGHT there with you ;-) Haven't tried much with USB C yet. Gonna start with some basics, like file transfers and see where I go from there.
JuanBagnell Oh I haven't seen those! I'll add them to my Queue :D Oh and also War Games, Howard the Duck lol, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, and Ferris Bueler ^_^ Awesome! please let me know how it goes, there's little talk and/or experimentation with/about usb-c 3.1.
What do you mean when you say "more expensive headphones"? What price range are you talking. Trying to see whether they would make a difference in my mid priced headphones
Literally my biggest disappointment is lg drifting away from the volume rockers on the back. Those are so convenient. My G3 is starting to act funny and I am seriously dreading having to get a new phone. I love the G3.
sahil jain honestly, my phone lasted the whole contract. After this last Android update, my phone isn't acting up as much. LG makes longer lasting stuff than Apple. My mom just got an iPhone like 4 months ago and it is already acting up. Her WiFi randomly stops working all of the time, and it is not the WiFi because it doesn't stop working on anything else. I love LG.
I have to say, I'd completely written off the G5 this year after all the bad initial impressions I'd seen from other reviewers. Having said that, I'm typing this on my new G5. Once in hand at the store I found this to be an amazing phone. Mine isn't at all plagued by a single build quality issue either. Everything fits tight and flush and the it's the perfect size phone for me overall. I also got $300 in additional free accessories for buying it through T-Mobile so I feel really good about my purchase overall and it's been nothing but a positive owners experience so far.
I dont know why we're still applauding htc for this same design. Yes it looks absolutely stunning but its been the same since HTC one M7. Samsung took a huge leap last year and LG has been superb in trying new stuff like removable battery but htc.. still the same old with some spec upgrade. I'LL not choose the G5 in this comparison only because of it ugly design.
+Top 5 It's less about applauding them for the same design, and more that they got this design right after some missteps last year. HTC going back to basics is a welcome sight for a company struggling with its brand identity.
I just went down to the local T-mobile to check out the G5 and it does not have a gap or sharp edges. In fact it feels very premium and looks beautiful.
+BalzyMcGEE That seems to be the issue. I don't think that LG has enough quality control going on. Some devices look flawless, while others seem to be - shall we say, rough around the edges?
Top of the line android phones can't even play marvel future fight? i am actually stunned that they don't talk about this more. If I pay 700 dollars for a the highest end phone there is, I expect there to be no dropped frames, and if there are, that due attention is brought to the fact. IMO Android phones still seem to be graded on a curve - if this happened to an iPhone i can already imagine what the comments would be, whereas I don't even see a single comment mentioning these dropped frames. It seems as if people are just resigned to this, as though it's a fact of life.
+Vishal Rajesh Actually Exynos powered phones do a better job, but I still don't think comparing an iPhone with a 1080p or lower resolution display is a completely fair test against QHD display Android devices. I mean i get a KILLER frame rate on the iPhone SE, but the game is almost unplayable for having tiny controls...
+JuanBagnell I agree that comparing devices with different display resolutions is inherently unfair, but would you rather have a 1080p display that rarely, if ever, drops frames in games, or a quad hd panel which clearly, and rather obviously, results in choppy in game performance? At the end of the day, I feel that android OEMs have embroiled themselves in a spec war. In order to differentiate themselves from the competition, they look to things like display resolution in order to appeal to consumers. I would be completely on board with this, if this didn't result in performance drops. And I feel that herein lies the fundamental difference between apple and android. Apple devices may not get the newest features, but you know that when they do come they will be properly implemented. Apple knows that a display resolution increase, at this time, with current chip sets, will result in performance drops - something that will definitely be picked up on by consumers; unlike an, arguably, minimal increase in panel clarity. And now to my final question to you. Do you think that, in the near future, Android powered devices will ever be able to unseat apple in performance? Do you think there will come a time where flagship Android phones will be seen as the gold standard in performance - not the, now ubiquitous, apple iPhone?
Vishal Rajesh I don't disagree, but I think many folks look to flagship tier companies to drive the market not just satisfy the specs most people will find are "good enough". QHD isn't "necessary", but is a handy benefit for things like VR and it's kinda nice on a 5" or larger screen when looking at UHD video created by the devices we use. But that's kind of the deal with flagship grade android phones. Like luxury cars, they'll have some things which we don't really "need" but that we think are cool, and sometimes those extra features weigh the car down more or use more energy. That's the compromise we face. As for gaming, hopefully we see developers make better use of Vulkan APIs soon, as that should improve the situation somewhat on current hardware. Until then, Future Fight runs amazing well on medium graphics and high performance settings. :-)
+JuanBagnell Nice answer. But I am still curious - do you think that flagship Android powered devices will ever be able to unseat apple in performance? And do you think that the new Vulcan APIs will be able to increase android flagship performance to such an extent, that it can compete with Apple's new Metal API? I, personally, hope that such a day comes, sooner rather than later, as competition breeds innovation. However, Apple's new Metal API, plus their vertical integration, makes it seem unlikely that such a thing will happen in the near future. But what do you think needs to happen for top tier androids to be able to compete, on a performance standpoint, with top tier ios devices?
Vishal Rajesh Do I thnk it could _EVER_ happen? Absolutely. Do I think it might happen soon-ish? Probably not. I am happy to see that Android has improved significantly though, and for most applications, Android doesn't really trail that far behind Apple. In act, as we add more "stuff" to iOS, iPhones haven't remained the fluid champs they've always been. Things like real world camera performance. The Galaxy S7 absolutely shames the iPhone in launching the camera and focus acquisition, while using a far more robust camera app than Apple has developed.
I wanted both of these respective offerings to be more compelling. I miss the glory days of HTC and it's amazing devices such as its Evo line up. As for LG, if only the G5 were more like the V10, I'd be more impressed. It's just difficult to see passing up a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge for either of these given the larger screen, better build, bigger battery and amoled display.
I used HTC Desire HD for 2 years and then temporarily I used Sony Xperia L before decided to buy LG G2 in 2013 and yes I'm still using LG G2! HTC is great but from my personal experience, it's not durable like LG phone. For this year, I'm ready to upgrade. Looking at LG G5 and HTC 10 - It's quite a tough choice! But in terms of the battery removable in LG G5, and I can see myself using it more than 400-500 battery cycle (2 years plus), I think G5 is the phone for me. Yes, it is ugly... Oh my.. But a flashy casing would do it justice! BTW, thanks for the great video! I now subscribe to you!
I have my HTC desire HD for like 4 years now, still works perfectly, aside from the battery.... it's my back up phone though,as I have a HTC desire 510 which sucks...looking at getting a HTC 10 soon :D
+MrGanjababy Yes, after studying HTC 10 online.. I am now torn.. whether getting HTC 10 or LG G5. What I love about HTC 10 as compared LG G5 is better body built, in built DAC, OIS in front camera, HTC Sense stock android (no duplicate) and that feature of SD Card will act like Internal Storage in HTC 10!
"With a promotional code" that barely anyone will have. Btw, the software is tied because LG has gotten rid of all bloat just like HTC has. The only difference is the look of their skins and that LG doesn't have an app drawer. Hell, Android Authority rated LG's software a 9.0 and HTC's an 8.7.
Just the fact that LG G5 doesn't have an app drawer, i would choose any other 2016 android flagships in the market. Honestly can't wait to get my hands on the HTC 10!
I have a S7 edge for pleasure, a iPhone 6s for work, I'm looking for a third phone for while I travel but still want a high end phone. any recommendations?
+Wysent With A Wy Well, when I'm on a trip, just for pleasure and not for businesses I don't want to carry around that phone because I won't need to. Also I have a carrier locked S7 edge. It's lock to ATT and traveling to some countries can be a pain because not all Sim cards work. So I'd ideally like to get a third unlocked smart phone, but I don't want to sacrifice quality, especially since I travel for fun two to three months out of the year for fun. Does it all make sense now that I had to explain myself to you?
Yes it makes sense now. What type of phone specifically are you looking for travelling? Good camera? Good speakers? Or overall performance. I currently have a 6p and its dope better camera imho than the s6 which I had previously owned and the dual speaker setup is simply amazing, performance is also very solid.
+Wysent With A Wy I love a good screen and a good camera. Speakers don't matter because I have a really good pair of headphones. Something with very very good battery life. While I'm in somewhere like Indian and away from my hotel I need good battery life.
The Tech Man Your s7 edge already has incredible battery life, hmmmm the only phone i can think of that has better battery life is the s6 active, it has better battery life than the s7 edge, quite similar in performance and is incredibly rugged, I wanted one but unfortunately is it only available in the U.S
Great review! However at the end you didn't want to say which phone is the best because they are different which is fine. But you should say why someone would want to buy phone A over B and what needs a certain phone meets so that people can make better informed decisions on which phone is best for them.
+TheDownloader86 THat's the point I'm making. A lot of people seem to feel software controls are inferior because you lose a strip of your display. I'm trying to show more often that it rarely matters for situations where you might want the full screen as those options hide themselves.
I will choose HTC over LG but also Huawei P9 Plus over HTC and Samsung S7 over all. I think this is what will reflect the sales at the end of the year.
I really hope htc and lg do good. The s7 however is king this year. Seriously, battery, camera, performance, screen, waterproofing, storage, ergonomics, the s7 has is all!
Jose R Ugly software? The 5x is stock android? that's an advantage. Has a bigger screen than the m8. Newer CPU, than the M8 and a better camera. Bro, just get an iPhone
You don't make any sense to me. The S7 and S7 edge is better than both phones + any iPhone out there. Guess you're one of those Apple fanboys that hate on anything Samsung related huh?
big mis the IR blaster on the HTC this year have the HTC m8 wil likely Be Upgrading mij Phone this year but the IR blaster I use it aften HTC says Nearly nobody using it but its stil e Cool feature IT's is being phased out day saying use your Bluetooth remote :(
Good review. I'm sticking with the LG just now. It's just that little bit more interesting. 3 of the modular 'Friends' are starting to appear on UK websites. To be fair, it is a case of pre order, but that option wasn't there a week ago.
+JuanBagnell yes, irritating. I've already been sent B & O headphones as part of a bundle; official 'Friends' and LG branding. Great headphones as stand-alone. It'll be good to try them with the DAC, £149 approx here.
I personally think that the only battle that G5 won was the main camera but that's not important to me because 90% of my photos are selfie The real battle would be between gs7 edge vs htc 10
Very good video review I personally love htc for build quality and software experience. Believe it or not this is the first great camera since the half decent one they had on the One X. Paying alot of attention to the camera review different sites, it appears that most of the issues, focusing especially are related to software issues which will be fixed hopefully soon. As for paying $999 for flagship after htc have shitted on themselves the past couple years is a real bitch move. They need to re-establish themselves as atleast on par or better than S7 and 6S and pricing this device the way they've done may make that an impossibility..
maybe HTC's vive might even the score...your comparison didn't touch on the two phones accessories which I think are an extension of the phones experience and should be accounted for
Well it's true that it's up to the individual to choose what they like, freedom of choice n_n Great vid as always Juan, and by the way, if you had the choice, which one of the two would you take? Just curious ^^
