The pins labeled FOR, REV, RST, SPH, SPM, SPL are actually multipurpose(with pin number D1~D6) and are configurable for different features. Whats on the label is actually their default feature. Settings for program 44~49 are the pin configrations for the multipurpose pins D1~D6. Each can have 32 configurations (set 0~32), here are few common settings you may need: 01 Run (combine this with other controls) 02 Forward 03 Reverse 04 Stop 05 Toggle forward/reverse 13 Emergency stop 14 Reset Fortunately I can understand the manual so I post this.
And also, you can configure diffrent segments of speed. That VFD comes with two speed control modes (low/mid/high or 8 speed) . The 3 speed control are already usable from pin SPH/SPM/SPL (of course you need set the frequencies first)
Actually, the Parameter #13 is pretty important. As You stated, it will revert the parameters to factory values when set to 8. I think this should be done before any other parameters are programmed. This way You know the state of the VFD. I have programmed a few of these and I have stumbled twice in a situation when the parameters were totally haywire. I think this is because the units are tested in the factory and sometimes the test leaves the unit in some strange setup. Factory reset will cure this. Good and informative video.
hey man, thanks for the Vid! just ordered one of these from ebay to run a 2.2kw spindle for my cnc. Just a FYI 8e1 RTU is Modbus lingo for 8 data bits, one stop bit. and rtu is remote terminal unit. just means that Modbus is set to direct master slave configuration (as opposed to over a network). your PC is master your VFD is slave. I am really surprised it didn't have you set parity. even or odd. but who knows :) anyway thanks for the tips! cant wait to get to playing with mine.
The 'e' in 8e1 means even parity. It's defining the protocol of the bits flowing across the connection. Both ends have to talk using the same protocol or it's like one person talking Japanese and one talking Hindu.
If running on a VFD why stop and change belt ratio? Just set program 5 on your VFD to a max frequency "above" the base speed of 60hz to over speed the motor. something like 75hz = 2250rpm for a 4 pole. Just as the VFD can run the motor below base speed (60hz=1800rpm) it can run it over that also.
Greg SB Just remember that the VFD runs the motor in constant power mode above base speed (in this case that would be 1hp). So the torque the motor can provide will drop off HP*5252/RPM=torque.
For my lathe, I need to run some tests and see what the motor is willing to take. It isn't rated above 60hz. Now my new inverter duty mill motor is rated to run at 120hz and 180hz is the "max safe". That should be fun.
The Leeson 192051 is listed as "inverter rated" 10 to 1 speed reduction and 150% speed increase, so you should be able to run the motor from 6hz to 90hz without issues. Of course the "inverter rated" is a marketing term and as you mentioned if it was an inverter duty motor (ie designed electrically to run on an inverter) it would be marked on the name plate. Since the motor on a VFD will produce constant torque below base speed and constant HP above it should be possible to run just one belt ratio for the majority of your lathe programs and not have to stop to change belts or have 2 programs. Looking forward to seeing the testing videos.
Chris S The Leeson is 10:1? I can't find that info anywhere, but that's good to know. When controlling the VFD via modbus there are 8 "speeds" the VFD allows, in 7.5hz increments.I've run the lathe at all of those speeds, but you're right the torque falls off pretty quickly. When I need low RPM and more torque that is when I go to another belt, but that's proven to be somewhat rare at this point.
@@hb9dod This is my understanding as well (likely dependent on which VFD you have) but mine specifically says to set those parameters to match the HZ on the SPINDLE (not the input frequency from your power source to the VFD).
I tried to set mine to 1(60hz), and it wont save it. It jist goes back to 0(50hz) I have tried reseting the vfd any ideas? Im having trouble getting my spindle to spin past 1000rpm.
hey RUSSTUFF i hope you are fine . i have huanyang 2.2kw vfd and and i set all required parameters according to the manual . and i am using external knob to control its rpm .but i have a problem when i use breakout board to control the RPMs of spindle it does not spin according to speed which i put in MDI mode of mach3 .i.e if use S100 rpms of my spindle goes to 8000 to 10000 .can please help me about this issue ?
There is enough noise in my shop that I sometimes don't notice that I have not turned the VFD on. Running a program with the spindle not turning is not my idea of a good time. I finally figured out how to let Linuxcnc know that it is off. In custom_postgui.hal I added the following line as the first line in the file: sets spindle-at-speed false and that did the trick. Now if I forget to turn the VFD on the program executes until it finds the first S and M3 commands and waits until I turn the VDF on and the spindle gets up to speed.
PD144 Rated Motor Revolution you kinda went bonkers on drives and did not say what to put for say 24,000 rpm motor? also my motor is a 400 Hz motor where is that programmed in? My land power is 115V 60Hz. thanks
Check your manual to be sure but PD072 is where I set that for mine. Also from HY on Amazon for my setup they said that PD144 is NOT the motor RPM (for mine it is set to 3000 when my spindle is rated for 24000 rpm). "PD144 is the tracking parameter to ensure the accurate RPM is displayed on the panel of the VFD"
Hello Anima I'm not sure what you mean. Are you just wiring the VFD to the mains and having an error, or are you referring to when you hook up the motor to the VFD? Which pins do you need help with?
Will this unit function with only 220 in and the power leads going out hooked up and none of the other wires hooked up..I just received one that is similar and hooked it up, but nothing happening..also do you have to do any rewiring on the motor..it is a clausing 4914 lathe with a 3-phase motor..the vfd is single to three phase
You mention that the green wire connected to pin AMC. My inverter does not have an AMC but does have an ACM. Is it possible that they are the same? BTW Great videos. I would still be fumbling around without the first one.
@@russtuff Sorry to be so late responding. Largely due to your videos and files I have gained control over my spindle from Linuxcnc. Thanks! :) I do have one small issue left that you may be able to help me with. If I do not power up the VFD then when Linuxcnc starts it thinks the spindle is up-to-speed and executing a program will not stop at the first S code like it should. If I turn the VFD on and then turn it off the green indicator on the screen turns red and exechting code will stop at the first S code and wait as it should. Then, if I turn the VFD back on code will continue to execute after the spindle is up-to-speed. Do you know how I can get Linuxcnc to realize that the spindle is not running if I never turn the VFD on? Thanks for considering this. Jim
From what I understand, if wants to use a brake resistor, they need to use the Huanyang GT model as it has different circuitry and can be used with a brake. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ibxn6xPRl3I.html
wow thanks. I got a vfd manual in full chinese, now the vfd display and buttons start to make a little more sense. Just a question... so i^m in europe so 50Hz, got a 3phase 380V 1.5kw vfd (different but similar looking to yours), got a 0.75hp, 0.55kw 380v 1370rpm 3phase motor... my question is when you program the voltage on the vfd do you think I have to input 380v?
You mentioned changing the rpm to reflect the actual spindle rpm. I'm assuming this will display the correct rpm when in use? if does it just automatically display it? mine just displays frequency by default
+Billy T Yes once set up it should show you the correct RPM. One of the buttons cycles through information like RPM, frequency, etc. My control cabinet is in storage so I can't play with it too see which button does which. I never used the vfd read out either since I can see RPM inside of linuxcnc.
Russ is the VFD to computer connection via the RS-232/485 serial adapter the only connection you need for LinuxCNC to control the VFD? In other words does the C11 board get used at all then to run the spindle? Or is the C11 board just used to run the X, Y, Z axis?
thank for your valuable explanation. i need your help. i have a spindle those are the description of it. mot:3phase poles :2 V:110V Hz 400 A 8.00 Kw 1.50 R/min 24000 i am living in Canada the electricity Hz is 60Hz can you tell me to set up the program of my Hy VFD
It sounds like you have one of those high-freq 2.2kw spindles. I have one too but never got around to wiring it up. I would suggest clicking the link in the video description and going to my dropbox. There is a folder with files for this VFD and there is a text doc called "Parameters" that will get you going quickly.
Hi, I'm based in Bulgaria and really need some help with the 7.5kw hy vfd. Would you be able to do a quick video chat with me and just talk me through some of the parameters that I aught to be setting. I'm really capable of most tasks but I've just bought a beautiful old spindle moulder from Germany and I really don't want to fry the motor. I. Exchange I'll send you a gift from my workshop in south east Bulgaria 😊, regards Darrell Nicol
has anyone ever tested the power coming out of the vfd @60Hz? I've triple checked the settings and I am only getting about 90 volts if I probe out one leg to the other on a 3-phase discharge side. I have 240 single phase going in.
russtuff could you check it and let me know? I have 2 of these units. one for my Bridgeport that I've been using for a year now. I checked that one just the other day and wasn't getting 220vac @60hz. I've been talking to the company through email and they basically tell me to read the manual. no help there.
I want to run my motor at 20khz at it's highest rated voltage which is 220v, the reason why I want to run it at such a high frequency is because apparently they higher the frequency the less current it draws giving the same output(supposed to be physically impossible). so how would I program my vfd to make higher frequency?
u should program PD003,PD004,PD006 to your desired frequency yet I have difficulty changing it from output of 50Hz to 60Hz, I change whichever I mentioned and all together, at the panel it shows the 60Hz like I chose change but does not change while running the motor...from my experience with another type of VFD the 60Hz output gives a bit higher RPM and still maintains its torque
hi. I'm gradualy piecing together how to use this vfd. Need a set of how to books on kindle! :) Thanks for your contribution. 8E1 refer to the port setup 8=8 bits, E I think is 'even' parity and 1 is the stop bit -> the structure of each chunk of data sent to the VFD. How do you wire the mains power side of things ie the use of surge protectors etc?
I'm kind of surprised that you can't do the VFD programming manually. I apparently can't find the right manuals, but do you know if the VFD has an SPI, UART or I2C port on it? If so, you could probably program it automatically that way using a microcontroller that simply sends the commands when it detects the DPDT switch going from the lathe to the mill
It doesn't look like it. This one has UPF, DRV, DCM, SPL, SPM, SPH, RST, REV, FOR, FOR, FA, FC, FB, DRV, =10, VI, AI, ACM, AM, RS-, RS+. The RS ports are the ones I have hooked up to the serial port. Even if it did have the ports you mention, I wouldn't know the first thing about programming pulses to change the parameters. If you're interested, the correct manual is here: www.exoror.com/datasheet/VFD.pdf
russtuff Ah, slick, thanks. I'll leaf through it. I did some more hunting over the weekend and found this site [1], which calls out RS as the RS485 (serial) port. Sound like you CAN program it via serial, so you might be able to get your controller (LinuxCNC or Mach or whatever) to automagically set the program parameters correctly. I'll keep pokin' around... [1] fightpc.blogspot.com/2014/10/vfd-control-with-arduino-using-rs485.html
It is a filter from Amazon, but they don't have it listed anymore: www.amazon.com/dp/B00D0U83D8 Here is a similar one I would buy now (there are more like it on Amazon too): www.amazon.com/dp/B073MCGBP5
What do you think of the build quality over all of the Huanyang VFD ? Anything beyond what you have said in the video? I use Teco on most of my machines. I am just looking at what might be outside of that choice.
I'd say that TECO VFDs are nicer looking and probably a bit better built but the Huanyang VFDs are suitable for home shop and small shop use. They are cheap enough to buy two and have one as a spare.
+IronHead Machine +Liberty4Ever I don't think you're going to get better quality vs a Teco, but these things are cheap. I've been reading more reviews online and it seems a lot of people have torched this VFD, but mine has been really solid so far. Maybe I'm not pushing it hard enough.
My system has a 1 1/2 3 phase motor and running a 1.5 kw VFD the maximum my lathe runs is 1750 I wish it ran a little higher speed. I am running default 50 HZ. Can I run a higher HZ to increase speed?
@@russtuff I have a 3 phase motor that is rated for 3500 +. I have a 2" pulley on the motor and an 8" on the direct drive on the Craftsman lathe. It is a completely different lathe then it was with the when it was originally built. I thought I could change the speed with the parameters but may need to reduce the 8" pully.
@@imanutnur7 if you have a way to monitor the temperature of the motor, I'm sure it wouldn't cause any problems to try out different frequencies. you might also want to check what type of bearings it has and what RPM those bearings are rated at.
You need to run the motor within its specified rating. Mine is rated to run up to 180hz, which is triple what comes out of the wall (60hz in the U.S.). If your motor is rated to handle the higher frequency then you just set that as your max hz in the VFD.
P08 is Hide Password. When i push Stop/Reset (button 8) on the controller it resets then about 2 seconds it shows error 3 again I discovered that I had the motor wire for 460 volt instead of 230 volt. I corrected that and have the same problem. I disconnected the motor from the vfd and still have the same problem. Can't get it to reset.
I had it create a new link but it is the same thing as the old link. The permissions are set for sharing too. Are you getting a file not found error or maybe just no permission granted?
Just tried using Explorer and it worked. I always use Chrome, but thought I'd try Explorer. Go figure. Sorry to bother you. Thanks for the videos. John
Hi Russ great video, the drive is good i have the 5hp version, i wanted to ask it you have noticed any issues with dynamic breaking or have tried it yet - it will stop the spindle a lot faster than with out.. helps more on larger mill/ lathe spindles than the smaller ones. on my lathe i have a 5hp motor and takes a while to slow down unless you have the breaking setup and add the breaking resistor. the problem with mine is that it was missing the Dynamic breaking electronic parts on the main power board. i was able to find them from mouser and had to order them and install.. the VFD is now able to stop the spindle in less that 3seconds from 2800 rpm. there is a video on this issue on youtube here --> link to (Huanyang VFD with dynamic braking) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cOMjNhSRAe0.html and he also has some links to the Mach3 support forum that addresses this issue. other wise it has been a good unit so far. Keep up the great videos Mitch
I haven't tried the dynamic braking or bought a braking resistor yet. I plan to, but I haven't researched it at all and am not sure what resistor to get. Do you have a link to the one you bought on Mouser?
hi, the resistor i am using is a 100 ohm 250 watt i just happened to have it around the shop. the parts i got from mouser are the ones missing from the vfd. mine was missing the IGBT, a 6pin optocoupler P701 and a diode. the parts have a place to be installed on the pc board but were not installed by the factory. the IGBT was the same as the others that are installed and the same for the opto. - you will need to check the circuit board to verify if it is missing any parts and then go from there. check out the link i posted and it has a link to mach3support form that had the same issue and the fix..