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Huge NHL Trade Rumours - Marner Trade to Vegas? NYR, Oilers, Sens + NHL Re-Instates Bowman & Coach Q 

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@TopShelfHockey
@TopShelfHockey 3 месяца назад
Let me know your thoughts on todays news and rumours Time Stamps: 0:00 Intro 0:49 Record Breaking $$ NHL Contracts Signed Today 3:30 Coaching Hires 4:00 NHL Re-Instates Bowman & Q 9:40 Leafs Trade Rumours 11:10 NYR Trade Rumours 13:00 Oilers Trade Rumours 14:15 Sens Trade Rumours 16:30 Leafs & Vegas Trade?
@andyq524
@andyq524 3 месяца назад
100% agree with your take on Bowman and Q.
@Stopper33
@Stopper33 3 месяца назад
Crushed it. You are 100% correct on Quennville and Bowman. And the NHL's gross news dump . Excellent summation.
@johanjotun1647
@johanjotun1647 3 месяца назад
Fans for a creeper free NHL club right here
@THELEAFSFAN
@THELEAFSFAN 3 месяца назад
I love the NHL. I've been a hockey fan for an extremely long time, but hearing news like that really pisses me off. No one deserves to come back after hiding something like that.
@paulciavardoni8069
@paulciavardoni8069 3 месяца назад
Bowman sucked as a GM! He only had the job because of his last name. Dale Tallon built this team. I agree with you. They shouldn’t be allowed back in the NHL. Plus to drop this news on the opening day of free agency is a despicable maneuver. The NHL has no shame!
@JerryCheevers
@JerryCheevers 3 месяца назад
cry more, these guys did not actually commit any crimes, ridiculous, kyle beach is a massive fighter, the whole thing was just a money grab, he consented.
@HAL9010-sv1gh
@HAL9010-sv1gh 3 месяца назад
​@@JerryCheeversYou see that large stone, over to the side of you. Well, maybe time to crawl back under it🤔? You're welcome.
@dominicpardo4783
@dominicpardo4783 3 месяца назад
@@JerryCheevers You haven't the foggiest fucking notion of what you are talking about. You're making assertions. The guy implicated went on to repeat the behavior and was prosecuted.
@Elsanna7
@Elsanna7 3 месяца назад
Armchair GM here: To DAL: 2025 2nd rd (PIT) Kaiden Guhle Joel Armia (50% RS) To MTL: Thomas Harley (Signs 6yrs, 39M)
@Lee-f9w5v
@Lee-f9w5v 3 месяца назад
TML have 9 defense signed, if they trade Marner we need offense that can score in the playoffs! Like 2 good guys we can use !
@gioknows
@gioknows 3 месяца назад
Pinto is such a good guy it's weird he has an agent who is such a dick. Cheers from Ottawa🍁
@johnpaulgeorgeandringo3559
@johnpaulgeorgeandringo3559 3 месяца назад
Pietrangelo is 34, cap hit of 8.8 million and is a UFA in 2027-28. Theodore is 28, cap hit of 5.2 million and is a UFA same year as Marner in 2025-26.
@cvs7532
@cvs7532 3 месяца назад
Marner, Lilygren for Theodore and NIck Roy plus picks.. 2x2nd. With JT off the Books, easy to extend Theodore...
@SavedByZero
@SavedByZero 3 месяца назад
Pietrangelo is interesting but his contract is back-loaded and with Marner gone how do you make up for the deficit in offense?
@svperstar
@svperstar 3 месяца назад
as a leafs fan, hell no to pietra
@johanjotun1647
@johanjotun1647 3 месяца назад
without Mitch, the Leafs could miss the playoffs to begin with, If you'd consider giving a 27yo 80-90 point getter for a 34yo Dman? you just might be crazy enough to work in TOR management
@jonbenjisnomore7935
@jonbenjisnomore7935 3 месяца назад
Oiler fans aren't happy about this talk of Bowman being considered for the GM's position. If the cover up of the Kyle Beech incident wasn't enough to disqualify Stan Bowman , his record & reputation is vastly overrated. If Oilers owner Daryl Katz hires Stan Bowman fans will boycott & it will be a public relations disaster. Smh.
@GlazerKing
@GlazerKing 3 месяца назад
Well Canada also openly applauds known Nazis…. Soooo who cares what the oilers fan base does.
@funkycedarsterrycoleman7811
@funkycedarsterrycoleman7811 3 месяца назад
if oilers make bowman gm, it will take him no mode than 2 years to ensure Connor never gets another shot at the Cup (blackhawks fan here)
@davids9520
@davids9520 3 месяца назад
If Trouba will come to Detroit, I'd hope the Wings would ask for more. More salary retention. Draft picks? Take advantage of the Rangers wanting to get rid of the player.
@johanjotun1647
@johanjotun1647 3 месяца назад
lets swing for the fence and ask for Lafreniere as a sweetener 🤔
@nbassano
@nbassano 3 месяца назад
Appreciate you taking a hard stance on bowman and Quenville. They have no place in hockey
@TheMatrix0022
@TheMatrix0022 3 месяца назад
Leafs made their call on defence like it or not. It is full now. Leafs need quality forwards.
@shawnpalade5680
@shawnpalade5680 3 месяца назад
I agree with you 1,000 % on the reinstatement of the guys. Keep up telling the truth….
@giannicardinali175
@giannicardinali175 3 месяца назад
This is where Mike (Top Shelf man) shows what a high quality human being he is. He's not just about hockey and he's 100% right the NHL is run by old school dinosaurs who need to go. Sexual assault is a violent criminal act that needs to be dealt with appropriately. Quinnville and Bowman did not take it seriously at all.
@4.0.7.7
@4.0.7.7 3 месяца назад
Definitely not. Unless they toss in a couple 1st round picks.
@tydwight5108
@tydwight5108 3 месяца назад
Do Marner for Theadore, Roy and 2nd
@chuckhashman956
@chuckhashman956 3 месяца назад
Kane is a GOOD/ productive player when healthy. Had this guy been able to play in S.T.F. the Oilers would have won. No one leaves a team where the CUP is within grasp !!!
@Unitedbambu
@Unitedbambu 3 месяца назад
Kane will likely require hip surgery of some sort and possibly be placed on LTIR which will save them cap space. He will be the Oilers’ Mark Stone and probably be back in time for round 1 of the playoffs.
@staceyvandiver
@staceyvandiver 3 месяца назад
That's exactly what is going on
@JaValeJustin
@JaValeJustin 3 месяца назад
I dont always agree with your hockey takes but 100% agree on what you said about the kyle beech stuff. Anybody who feels differently go back and listen to keith ballard and nick boynton, others on the team and staff knew and even poked fun at beech about the situation after it happened. Because we'll never be able to put faces to names those are the only 2 guys on that team i have any respect for. Sorry not sorry, all that "leadership" and they all failed that kid.
@JaValeJustin
@JaValeJustin 3 месяца назад
And yes by letting it slide so far it also hurt other kid(s) in the hockey world. Even younger kids.
@Sam-z1t6p
@Sam-z1t6p 3 месяца назад
They made this announcement because he has a job waiting for him with the Oilers
@sandman9413
@sandman9413 3 месяца назад
Hard pass on the Vegas trade
@cc-de4io
@cc-de4io 3 месяца назад
Hard no on peterangelo for mariner-- add a top 6 forward and a highly rated prospect and then and then come knocking.
@SedatKulafofski-eh5pc
@SedatKulafofski-eh5pc 3 месяца назад
Good haul Ottawa got from Chychrun trade 😅😅
@CrimsonicStorm
@CrimsonicStorm 3 месяца назад
If the Leafs trade Marner to Vegas it better not be for Pietrangelo, although it is an okay idea. One problem, hes 34 turning 35. Youre trading a 27 year old superstar forward (with an extension, if this gets done Marner and the Knights would negotiate a contract before hes traded) for a 34 year old D. If this was 30 year old Pietrangelo, fine... but hes not. Pietrangelo is even coming off of a down year, it would make the Leafs D core *so* old (Tanev is 34, Petro 34, OEL 32, Hakanpaa 32, Rielly 30, McCabe 30). Vegas would need to add a *ton* to Pietrangelo for the Leafs to consider it in my opinion. I think a better target would be Theodore, (also eligible for an extension, could be a double sign and trade) is younger and nearly as good as Petro, and will be better for longer. Marner + Liljegren for Theodore + Nic Roy + Brisson and a 2025 2nd round pick? Maybe a little more or less on either side but I like this more than Petro. Rielly - Tanev Theodore - McCabe OEL - Hakanpaa Benoit
@carbb5760
@carbb5760 3 месяца назад
It would be shocking if any team trades any major asset for Marner on a crazy expensive expiring deal.
3 месяца назад
@@carbb5760 Of course but before Vegas does the deal they would make sure Marner is ready to sign a long term deal right away.
3 месяца назад
Leafs still could use Piertrangelo yes older but a great veteran as Leafs want the cup in 2 years. Throw in Kolesar at $1.5 million and this could work. Kolesar is a big guy Berube type player. Marner Robertson and if Liljegren is included then yes if Roy is included Leafs can add a pick.
@TomtheGarbageman
@TomtheGarbageman 3 месяца назад
Great job Sir….Ty
@staceyvandiver
@staceyvandiver 3 месяца назад
Kane isn't getting traded. Rumor isn't true
@ARTOFFICIAL66
@ARTOFFICIAL66 3 месяца назад
a trade i dont think either team would do but i think its a match Leafs send Marner to Islanders for JG and Lee
@fluxcc
@fluxcc 3 месяца назад
Pittsburgh Penguins would take Evander Kane I am sure. Kyle Dubas said today that they're still looking "to add either a good, young forward, or take on another trade like the Hayes deal". Meaning Pittsburgh would probably take Kane, if Edmonton adds a sweetener to take him, like St. Louis did with Kevin Hayes. That would be time sensitive though, cuz Pittsburgh is nearly full.
@willsk7068
@willsk7068 3 месяца назад
Vagas disapointing their ex players is going to make players not want to play there. It be funny Marner goes there. I hope he does. Vagas and Him deserve each other.
@jasoncrandall73
@jasoncrandall73 3 месяца назад
Signing 33/34+ players to high dollar amounts & 4 to 6 years equals buyouts to all in 2 to 3 years.
@mariovaccarella6854
@mariovaccarella6854 3 месяца назад
Great Video, as usual, Mike
@TheOldFashionedDad
@TheOldFashionedDad 3 месяца назад
The leafs need forwards now...Bert is gone and if now Marner was to get traded who will fill those holes?
@davidseanmacdonald1470
@davidseanmacdonald1470 3 месяца назад
Pinto wants to go Home!!! There's no place like Long Island!! Every player that comes to Long Island ends up absolutely loving it! NYI need to exploit LI so we can attract top end players!
@Robert-fy2oh
@Robert-fy2oh 3 месяца назад
Thanks for all your work today! Couldn't agree with you more about Bowman, Q and the league's slimy move to distract. Just ugly.
@TradingIsLife420
@TradingIsLife420 3 месяца назад
Pinto mostlikely DID request a trade. Ottawa just doesn't wanna lose the leverage they already lost last season. 🤷‍♂️
@johanjotun1647
@johanjotun1647 3 месяца назад
you mean when we were throwing a welcoming party for the Cat while he was still in a sens jersey?
3 месяца назад
Montreal and Ottawa did nothing bottom feeders like Buffalo. Leafs redid their defense and goalie nice job. Still worried about the bottom six of the Leafs; like in Edmonton where they could not get into the Finals until they had a decent bottom six. Pietroangelo sounds interesting but if Vegas can include Kolesar it could work. Leafs would add Robertson and Marner. Leafs then could add Alex Nylander because size comes in Kolesar a Berube type. Alex is very small.
@jerrytimmins9560
@jerrytimmins9560 3 месяца назад
I agree with you Mike where is the justice this is garbage love the videos keep them coming cheers 👍
@inthefarunknownplanetearth
@inthefarunknownplanetearth 3 месяца назад
Vegas trade makes no sense as the Leafs could get a much younger top D who makes less for Marner
@davidseanmacdonald1470
@davidseanmacdonald1470 3 месяца назад
Coach Q, Bowman and friends are the NHL's Jerry Sandusky. They should be in jail
@Sam-z1t6p
@Sam-z1t6p 3 месяца назад
They move marner they need good roater player prospect a couple draft choices
@modernmusclecar1904
@modernmusclecar1904 3 месяца назад
They are not trading Marner for Pietrangelo. Wtf kind of trade is that? They are now set on D. Theodore and a good solid forward is the only trade to be made.
@TheMarshallMathersLp1980
@TheMarshallMathersLp1980 3 месяца назад
How do you know 🤔
@modernmusclecar1904
@modernmusclecar1904 3 месяца назад
@@TheMarshallMathersLp1980 Maybe because it makes zero sense thats how.
@edpottinger849
@edpottinger849 3 месяца назад
The Sens should resign Pinto,it just depends if his agent throws a big road block or not.Pinto should be payed second line salary.Once Ottawa signs him then they can look at the other players to the puzzle.
@1pbdecoded1pb
@1pbdecoded1pb 3 месяца назад
Why would Vegas want Marner when they have Eichel? VGK are winners, not Marner/losers. Or maybe Marner just needs away from the Laffs and I'm wrong. Eichel got away from the Sabres like Reinhart did. Both got Cups for VGK and the Cats! Mike loses his mind, Pietrangelo for Marner. Hahahahaha. Marner will be UFA. It is Leaf bad karma.
@oschiott
@oschiott 3 месяца назад
As a Blackhawks fan it was shocking to hear what happened to Kyle Beach and others, and the terrible things that Quenneville, Bowman, MacIsaac, Cheveldayoff and others actively did to cover-up sexual assault and giving recommandations allowing the sexual assaults commited by the sick Brad Aldrich to continue amassing victims. To me, that is NEVER exuseable. I don’t think they should be allowed back until the couragous hero Kyle Beach and the other victims are comfortable with it. If that turns out to be never, I’m fine with that. Yes, these guys did amazing things to get my beloved Blackhawks their first Stanley Cups in my life-time, and to me, I think people should be given second chances, but they should never be allowed to get back into manegerial positions again, IMHO, and yes, I include Cheveldayoff in that group. I still cannot fathom why he was spared, based on what we know about what happened. I’m totally with you, TSH. That was really deflating and disappointing news to me too…
@stephenarrigo5679
@stephenarrigo5679 3 месяца назад
Kane for Trouba!!
@christopherstauffer8487
@christopherstauffer8487 3 месяца назад
It's time for the victims to sue the NHL
@TheBorderGeek
@TheBorderGeek 3 месяца назад
Kane...Perry...Bowman...makes sense, sadly.
@joeyzari
@joeyzari 3 месяца назад
PA for Marner is absurd.
@johanjotun1647
@johanjotun1647 3 месяца назад
I told Leaf fans they under apreiceate Marner, yesterday on a live chat and everyone and the host said they were sick of him spoiling their post season, I was kinda shocked no one lkes him.
@IKOKNIGHT780
@IKOKNIGHT780 3 месяца назад
Bahahah. Exactly where mathews wants to go. Back home. And marner dips ??? I can guarantee matthews will sign again , cause he doesn't wanna be a quitter. But hates where he is. Leafs need to change there game.
@richardbas7574
@richardbas7574 3 месяца назад
Hahahahaha. How sad society has became. Men all caught up in some scandal where a grown man couldn’t defend himself against pure nonsense. Grow up!! No story here.
@stephenmyers1006
@stephenmyers1006 3 месяца назад
How about Marner for Trouba?
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 3 месяца назад
Bowman was a terrible GM He will destroy the oilers. In all for it
@Sam-z1t6p
@Sam-z1t6p 3 месяца назад
Gm have themselves to blame when they hand out these no move clause they tie there own hands gm self inflited not good business
@leafsruleall
@leafsruleall 3 месяца назад
Marners not going anywhere
@post1113
@post1113 3 месяца назад
They should never work in the NHL again.
@ShippingDepartment-eo2xt
@ShippingDepartment-eo2xt 3 месяца назад
Marner is not being moved. You can try to move him all you want. He's not waving. Period. End of story.
@TopCornBiskies
@TopCornBiskies 3 месяца назад
Horrible message from the league.
@davidseanmacdonald1470
@davidseanmacdonald1470 3 месяца назад
I'm so SICK of The Vegas Golden Showers!!! I'm from Long Island NY, been living in Vegas for 7 years and I HATE IT/THEM!!! I can't wait for them to tank so I can laugh at people ripping their VGK stickers off their vehicles!
@ctg3450
@ctg3450 3 месяца назад
Why are the Rangers pushing to move their "captain" Trouba? Makes zero sense. They are not under a cap crunch. Their blue line is one of the best in the league. Just out of the blue in the last few days this comes up?!?!? Something smells fishy here....there is NO reason any team pushes THIS hard to move a player in a few days. Something happened with him off the ice that hasn't been announced and the Rangers are trying to get ahead of it.....get ready....
@johanjotun1647
@johanjotun1647 3 месяца назад
I was thinking Why myself Dude plays bigger than he looks on stats guys really respect his space out there PPl always say they need to get bigger and more physical, to me he's the type of guy i think of when I hear that, good at making guys go around.
@ctg3450
@ctg3450 3 месяца назад
@@johanjotun1647 Makes Zero sense why a team would try and trade their "captain" 5 days before free agency. I get the 15 team ask, thats in his contract, but it makes ZERO sense. He is their #1 Right handed defender...a #1 on every team in the league. Why are they trying to trade him? There is more to this story. I'm guessing some "off ice" issues happened that haven't come out yet.
@stephenmyers1006
@stephenmyers1006 3 месяца назад
@@ctg3450 his wife has a contract with a hospital in NYC,she's a Doctor, I believe it's NYU for 2 years so he's not going anywhere !
@clark85
@clark85 3 месяца назад
pietrangelo is too old now
@Jimdaewong16
@Jimdaewong16 3 месяца назад
Marner and a 3-4 million dollar winger. Then trade one or two of their 12 D for another forward or draft picks.
@LonewolfJesseJames506
@LonewolfJesseJames506 3 месяца назад
I'm glad coach Q is back in the NHL. Everyone deserves a second chance. He's a hell of a coach. Anyone who's butt hurt and bitching about it, obviously wasn't there plus what would y'all do in that situation? It's not something that happens everyday. How would y'all handle it? That's right. No one knows. It's easy to sit here and judge someone when you know nothing about what went on..gonna piss some people off here but I really don't care....how do we know if it's even true? Kyle beech was a grown man it's not like he was a helpless kid who was over powered and forced into it. If you have to have a sexual relationship with another man to advance your career, you probably just plain suck at hockey....same as coming out years later and accuse someone of being racist, with absolutely no physical evidence. If you can't make it by working your ass off and earning your roster spot, that's fine, but don't ruin someone's whole life and career years later. If it did happen....IF..then I agree the video coach should be in prison.
@kristinejackson8268
@kristinejackson8268 3 месяца назад
This guy blabs too much about stuff nobody cares about. Talk about all the trades dude.
@billrowen9417
@billrowen9417 3 месяца назад
Complete Bullshit! Sorry but it happened to me and a much younger age and my voice worked just fine. 18 isn't a kid and you don't make it to the NHL by yourself. He had plenty of people to turn to. Furthermore, your disappointment cause of someone else did the crime and your upset cause they are not being held accountable. For taking someone's word that they would deal with it, on a player who isn't on the team. So isn't around to remind you. Should have never been suspended in the first place.
@rodneyhickman825
@rodneyhickman825 3 месяца назад
And what if you told someone and they dismissed it or didn't deal with it ? Btw very sorry that happened to you .
@billrowen9417
@billrowen9417 3 месяца назад
@rodneyhickman825 it was the trainer. Was hired by the team, not the coach. Coaches don't hire trainers and doctors, etc, the team does/president of hockey operations/Gm. Coach is responsible for a 23 man roster and if your not on it. He's not responsible
@richardlampman8402
@richardlampman8402 3 месяца назад
Yes you are horrible but slightly better then before !
@MosquitoMurderer
@MosquitoMurderer 3 месяца назад
Dude you're talking like Quenville and Bowman are the ones who comited the sick act. They were just doing their jobs. Why dont you blame the sick person who actually did it and stop blaming them.
@dana102083
@dana102083 3 месяца назад
Its a business, and when you dont protect for safety theyre responsible.
@TopShelfHockey
@TopShelfHockey 3 месяца назад
They covered up a serious crime which gave an opportunity for the culprit to abuse more victims.
@michaelkeller5927
@michaelkeller5927 3 месяца назад
They were doing the covering up. They knew and hid it. You must be a kiddy didler yourself......
@willsk7068
@willsk7068 3 месяца назад
They covered up for the p3d0, they shoulda had him in jail instead of giving high praise so he can work with minors at a school.
@JerryCheevers
@JerryCheevers 3 месяца назад
exactly. cancel culture losers
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