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Hull, Reddish Vale and the Viaduct that wasn't there. 

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In this video we attempt a follow up to last weeks video in the Deeply Dale Cheesden valley area. We go looking for a tramroad and a former Viaduct unfortunately our efforts were in vain as no traces remain. We have a guest presentation video from a Viewer on a disused railway line in Hull and we also visit Reddish Vale country park to look at the remains of Strines weir.

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@aniwilliams3370
@aniwilliams3370 4 года назад
Hi Martin, great video. Just some info Zac and Jack may find interesting: my Nana worked in the Calico Printworks as a little girl (her family also worked there). She was born in 1902 and so this would have been 1909-10 period. She used to tell me stories of getting very upset at having to work in bare feet in the mill (due to the risk of fire) because of the thick oil on the floor getting on her feet - she said it also used to make her feel really sick, and made the skin on her feet really sore. In the end, they were given little soft, material slippers to wear that protected her feet a little. She absolutely hated working there. Great video, lads!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks for the info Ani
@colinc5269
@colinc5269 4 года назад
Martin , just a thought - this magazine style of framework is so flexible and the content can be across the board ... your quality makes it all work - so keeping it going and involving your audience is great once in a while ...just a thought.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Colin and yes your right
@martynwalker1026
@martynwalker1026 4 года назад
Fantastic series Martin. Your interest and enthusiasm is so good to encourage others to have an u understanding in industrial archaeology which is the most interesting part of history.
@joylunn3445
@joylunn3445 4 года назад
From The Forgotten Valley, page 28, "In its later years the coal from Wind Hill Pit was carried into the valley by means of a tramway, the line first spanning the Ashworth Road then dropping down the hill, across a timber trellis, through a narrow cutting and finally terminating at the foot of Deeply Hill. There were two four wheel wagons in use, each carrying five 21/2cwt. tubs of coal, and the gradient of the line allowed them to enter the valley by their own momentum. They were hauled back by means of a cable which was powered by a stationary steam engine situated by the pit".
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thank you Joy
@suzyqualcast6269
@suzyqualcast6269 3 года назад
Sorted !
@rwalker9644
@rwalker9644 3 года назад
Ahah -Hull - the ignored city so much history here - thanks for visiting cheers Rob
@Cowley46
@Cowley46 4 года назад
Its so refreshing to see kids getting out and taking an interest in whats around them. Excellent Martin thanks.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thank you and yes. I think they will always remember this stuff
@thelegoshed
@thelegoshed 4 года назад
Cheers Martin, thanks for the inclusion. If anyone wants us to make more, we'll do what we can. This was our first atempt. Cheers, Chris, Elizabeth, Thomas and Rosemary on camera!!!
@paulblyth5047
@paulblyth5047 4 года назад
Very enjoyable thanks
@thelegoshed
@thelegoshed 4 года назад
@@paulblyth5047 thanks Paul. Was our first go. The kids and I love a bit of Martin, which is nice and better than the usual rubbish they watch :-)
@Mitch-Hendren
@Mitch-Hendren 4 года назад
very informative. I'm in Northern Ireland (but from St Helens) never been to Hull , so had no idea where you were, but still found it fascinating what was left from 50 yrs ago.for a first attempt it was very good. keep it up and ignore the ars****s . ..... Mitch
@radiator-gb7pk
@radiator-gb7pk 4 года назад
Well done Chris. Loads of incredible, under-appreciated history in the Old Town and docklands as well as the grand industrial warehouses, wharves and silos of the River Hull!
@cargy930
@cargy930 4 года назад
Excellent video. I was dubious at first, I admit it. But I soon got sucked in and enjoyed it all. Such a pleasant change from that grumpy Mancs bloke who's always knee-deep in rivers! XD XD
@richardwills-woodward
@richardwills-woodward 4 года назад
I think history is great for kids and don't understand why more are not interested. I mean think about it - you are uncovering treasures from the past and unlocking lost worlds from books. Then being able to see the remains in reality brings these worlds to life. Love the magazine style content alongside the rest.
@annother3350
@annother3350 4 года назад
I think the history or the way history is taught in schools is off putting.
@boxerdogrob
@boxerdogrob 4 года назад
Cracking video. Im 36 years young and follow all your videos. Keep up the good work
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Cheers Rob
@fuzzwack1
@fuzzwack1 4 года назад
Its awesome the younger people are into exploring too!
@jeffreyquinn3820
@jeffreyquinn3820 4 года назад
I loved this kind of stuff at that age as well. How things work, why they were built. Not a log of obvious physical heritage in the part of Canada where I grew up, but I was lucky enough to see Spain in '78 (got some assault rifles pointed at us in Gibralter. Prepared me for travelling in the US . . . ), Germany/France in /84 & China in the late nineties. I suspect the only reason boys don't like studying history in places where you can see it all around you is because they don't take it out of the classroom often enough.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Yeah and they know their stuff
@marshjacqueline07
@marshjacqueline07 3 года назад
I used to see the weir in the 50’s and loved watching the cascading water. There were hardly any trees on the valley floor and a clear view to Arden Hall now the motorway cuts right across in front. The print works was there and a row of cottages. Also remember the ski jump that was built there one summer. Great video. Thanks to the boys reviving happy memories of Reddish Vale
@christinegibbins6105
@christinegibbins6105 4 года назад
Thank you Martin, thoroughly enjoyed the video. brilliant to see the youngsters taking a keen interest in history.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Yeah they are very good Christine I was impressed
@AchieveSafetyLtd
@AchieveSafetyLtd 3 года назад
Really good to see your new fellow enthusiasts.
@navigator902
@navigator902 3 года назад
Adventure Family following the footsteps of history.... Wonderful enjoyment... are outings of memory with the family, and a plus wondering through history that surrounds us. Cheers.
@MrRoyboy55
@MrRoyboy55 4 года назад
The strong construction of the right of way bridge for farm travel under the disused railway line in Hull show i think the importance placed on the farm and rural commerce still based on a running river even as the steel rail developed , amazing ,its so easy for things to be out of sight out of mind , and i now need some goggles when i watch , hmm which should they be ,, hmmm maybe both i think , one to remind me of tea time and the other to get a closer look at things , great stuff thanks martin and team (s)
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thank you Roy
@colin5021
@colin5021 4 года назад
No need to apologise for the mag style, it's great, do a bit of that and long-form. Here's hoping the lads go from strength to strength..
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks very much Colin
@malbancroft1932
@malbancroft1932 4 года назад
We lived in Brinnington in the early sixties and used to go down the vale quit regularly, in the summer we would strip down to our shorts and incredibly play on the top of the weir, walking over to the top edge to what you call strines weir and generally messing about on it. One summer me and my friends went down the vale with our mums for a picnic they say by the river near the viaduct and we as usual went to the weir messing around on it. shortly after our mums walked over saw what we were up to and we got a right thick ear for being so stupid.Oh god i cant believe some of the stunts we got up down there. Another great film Martin.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
I bet it was a great place back then
@robertfletcher3421
@robertfletcher3421 4 года назад
It is great to see young people taking an interest in local history. Great episode.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Robert, yeah they are great lads
@Steve_Wardley_G6JEF
@Steve_Wardley_G6JEF 4 года назад
Another great video with some great contributions from Chris and his family and the boys and mum. Essential viewing on a Sunday evening from Steve in Bridlington.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks very much Stephen
@janet3528
@janet3528 4 года назад
South Manchester,I was born and brought up in Gatley ....in those days 1950’s/early 1960’s we still had steam trains on 2 seperate lines at the top of our road,Pendlebury rd Gatley...nowadays it’s the motorway where there were fields from which we did our train spotting... different times ,love your videos 🙂👋my gran lived in HeatonMersey...and we saw the stream trains there as well,......all long gone 😕
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 года назад
I wish I had seen all that Janet it sounds great. Best regards
@trevorwright6165
@trevorwright6165 4 года назад
wonderful great to see you all and thank you for taking us out with you all even if i was still indoors on lockdown cheers from trev and Chris down south in Sussex by the sea
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks very much Trev and Chris hope all is well down in Sussex
@rubymoore8509
@rubymoore8509 4 года назад
Jack is my childhood best friend it’s amazing to see him doing well in somet he loves 💙
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Ruby
@agentbertram4769
@agentbertram4769 3 года назад
Very interesting collaborative video. Thanks to Martin and the lads and mum!
@michaelryan6884
@michaelryan6884 4 года назад
You have done excellent work with the restrictions you have had....no apologies needed!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks very much Michael
@brianroscoe239
@brianroscoe239 4 года назад
Those two are brilliant, and we know where they get their enthusiasm from, a great teacher. 👍🏻
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Brian, they area a force to be reckoned with
@rocklover7437
@rocklover7437 4 года назад
As a Kid used to ride my bike from Anlaby Common embankment ,go across Springhead Lane bridge along the embankment to Aston road bridge to Willerby square .Go across the road to a field and follow the train track to a Mile long tunnel coming out at Weadley Springs and then on to South Cave .
@thelegoshed
@thelegoshed 4 года назад
Wonderful, it's a real shame the line has gone. I can remember being very young and sitting in the car watching them cut the Calvet Lane bridge down.
@rocklover7437
@rocklover7437 4 года назад
@@thelegoshed Yes i remember that .
@pilpelet100
@pilpelet100 4 года назад
That was great. I love this magazine format. It's amazing how much you can fit in to 30 minutes!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thank you Ruth
@Magdalena76h
@Magdalena76h 4 года назад
I am so impressed with the lads who have been watching your videos! I hope to inspire younger folk to take an interest in what is around them, too! Great video as always, and I love the content you've included this time - it is great when people are inspired and want to engage! Jack and Zach were brilliant as were your official Hull reporters including Elizabeth and Thomas! Brilliant work and you did a great job of connecting the different aspects of your story! ~M x
@Magdalena76h
@Magdalena76h 4 года назад
P.S. I am planning a visit to Reddish Vale for some mudlarking and filming myself!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks very much Meredith. yes All the contributors were great on this one
@juliacarr47
@juliacarr47 4 года назад
Zak and Jack future archaeologists. Great video, our hidden history.
@MrRiverspider
@MrRiverspider 4 года назад
And Sam lol
@juliacarr47
@juliacarr47 4 года назад
Sorry I forgot Sam 😬😬
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
They are definitely destined for good things
@Aramis419
@Aramis419 4 года назад
Loved the video - as always - and the guest stars were fantastic! Sharing a love of history and curiosity is a great thing! Cheers from across the pond! Keep on cracking on!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks very much, yes am very grateful to my Guest stars 😃
@TheWacoKid1963
@TheWacoKid1963 4 года назад
My youth: It's 5 to 5 time for CRACKERJACK!! My Adult hood: It's 5 to 7 time for MARTIN ZERO!!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
😆😉😃😉👍
@Gribbo9999
@Gribbo9999 4 года назад
double or drop? - who got the cabbage?
@richardbidinger2577
@richardbidinger2577 4 года назад
Been loven the magazine style all along here. I'd like to see you work with Jack and Zach again on something kid oriented but historical in origin. Things have come a long way since the trap door in the canal. Looking forward to the next video.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Richard, might just do that
@jayd1974
@jayd1974 4 года назад
Always look forward to new uploads 👍👍
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Jay
@johnlaw3323
@johnlaw3323 4 года назад
Fantastic video not surprised you have inspired the young ones and its great they have developed such an interest. Love the goggles we get a lot of steam punkers in Morecambe through the summer. Great to sit in the old Bruccianis café which dates back to the 1930 s and is still original selling their homemade ice cream watching all the different costumes passing by.. You must try it if you ever get to Morecambe.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
I went to Whitby to the Steam Punk festival it was great
@anneforster510
@anneforster510 4 года назад
Very interested to see Reddish Vale as my Dad lived in Reddish as a young man before WW2. He and his twin brother used to sketch around Stockport and Reddish Vale, I still have some of his sketches which are 70 years old. Loved those young lads , watch your back Martin 😂
@BugRacer1955
@BugRacer1955 4 года назад
Great work as always Martin and also great to see the next generation of young people interested in local history 👍🏻
@tracya4087
@tracya4087 4 года назад
yes i try with my thirteen year old daughter . she gives me strange looks . but she does take it in and remember too 'best wishes from wigan still in lancashire
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Yeah its good. They are very keen as well
@Goldenrod01
@Goldenrod01 4 года назад
Another class video Martin 👍.I do enjoy a good railway history video. I live on the route of an old branch line of the Lancashire and Yorkshire railway, built to serve a large mill nearby. Although the line was only 1.6 miles long, it had a 13 arch and a 14 arch viaduct, which both still stand today, as well as 2 stations and a large goods yard. Although the track has long since gone, there is still plenty of evidence of what was there if you know where to look - I’ve found a few sleepers and even lumps of coal by the old coal dumps, which is now just a dense forested area. Glad to see there’s more of us out there who have an appreciation for stuff like this.
@tracya4087
@tracya4087 4 года назад
we had lot of lines in wigan too . three engine sheds three stations and two nearby works . most of it now lost without a trace . best wishes from wigan still in lancashire
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Bill. Definitely love all that stuff
@101jumpit
@101jumpit 4 года назад
Those young lads are great advocates for local history. :)
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Yep, they are proper keen
@robertfreitag1319
@robertfreitag1319 4 года назад
Definitely enjoyed the variety of content in this video.. very interesting. thumbs up! to Zak and Jack!!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thank you Robert
@lazyhazeldaisy9596
@lazyhazeldaisy9596 4 года назад
Blimey Martin I think you might have some competition there with Jack and Zak very knowledgeable young men, glad you will be out and about next week but I have also enjoyed the magazine style blogs so thanks for keeping us entertained though this awful time. Love to everyone out there hope your all safe and well.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thank you very much and yes the lads are great
@andrewschmitz9707
@andrewschmitz9707 4 года назад
So many wonderful things here,the history as well as your young audience! There are more kids like this ,just need a bit of visibility. YOU all are amazing.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Andrew
@judithsmith9274
@judithsmith9274 4 года назад
There was Dry side but even the dry side is wet!! Love it x
@peterkilvert2712
@peterkilvert2712 4 года назад
Another great video Martin. Those youngsters were brilliant too. Many thanks Pete.
@paulbeesley5743
@paulbeesley5743 4 года назад
I really enjoy this type of video where you mix a few things up, nice to see young kids interested in history too, soo much better than a stuff classroom. 😃😃
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Paul. I think Reddish needs a full on video though
@paulbeesley5743
@paulbeesley5743 4 года назад
@@MartinZeroOh definitely it looked a great area. Awesome work as usual mate, I look forward to your videos every week. 😀
@taffymk1244
@taffymk1244 4 года назад
At the top of the viaduct, is the old junction thru brinington tunnel onwards to tiviot dale station stockport and onwards to northern junction, the remains of the Midland mainline and Cheshire lines viaduct and bridges use to cross the mersey further up after stockport, great walk.👍
@suzyqualcast6269
@suzyqualcast6269 3 года назад
Cheshire Lines warehousing/terminal building at Wallasey/ Birkenhead agin the river, almost ¿?
@sawnoff77
@sawnoff77 2 года назад
I'm so glad I found this vid.I spent some formitive years in the Reddish area just up from the Giants money box bridge. Really nice to see bits of the place. I was never sure what the slit might be but the coal drop seems a reasonable reason than any other. Really enjoyed the rest of the content and will be watching more. Nice one
@Bob-68
@Bob-68 4 года назад
I was always interested in history as a kid, so it's great to see the youngsters of today taking and interest. Another great video. Thank you!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Bob, yep they are inspiring
@martin4787
@martin4787 4 года назад
Great video once again Martin. You're clearly an inspiration to the younger generation, for which you deservedly should be commended. p.s. formerly Ashton on Mersey Bugle :-)
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Martin, you changed the name then ?
@officially-ROB
@officially-ROB 4 года назад
Excellent video from the guys in Hull great to see people getting involved with your channel martin
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Yeah he did a good job didnt he Rob
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 3 года назад
Hi Martin, Had to watch this one again...... Great video.......
@outsidethepyramid
@outsidethepyramid 4 года назад
Cheesden Valley, Deeply Vale as per Martin's vid last week.. I went today for an explore, mind was blown.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Did you enjoy it ?
@outsidethepyramid
@outsidethepyramid 4 года назад
​ Martin Zero We did enjoy it thanks Martin, there are loads of great photo opportunities! In the print works area it was like Aztec ruins with a calm, peaceful, and tranquil atmosphere. I got that sense of mystery of the lost knowledge of what it all was exactly. A dozen or so black cows and calves were chilling out there in the shade near us which was dreamlike. We didn't have time to walk to the large lower chimney and we weren't sure which path to take exactly, but we'll look forward to exploring that next time. Lower Cheesden Lumb Mill is amazing.
@Abigail-Rebecca
@Abigail-Rebecca 4 года назад
Over the other side of Reddish Vale, going towards Brinnington is the old CLC railwayline, locally called the "deadline", which heads towards the old Tiviot Dale station where there are still some small remains of the platform. There's also a branch (before you reach Tiviot Way - heading towards Stockport and Tesco's) which goes under a rather wonderful old tunnel heading in the direction of Romiley and Marple. If you head to Red House Lane in Bredbury, you can see the remains of the old line running next to the existing line. When I was a kid in the seventies, that mechanism was mostly covered by earth, but you could clearly see the top of it...I'd pass it when heading up "Big Ben" to skive at my friend's house, to avoid doing the whole of the school-cross country run. Wonderful to see it in all of its glory now.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Paul, what is "Big Ben" ?
@Abigail-Rebecca
@Abigail-Rebecca 4 года назад
@@MartinZero Hi Martin, "Big Ben" is (or rather was) the local nick name for the, somewhat large, hill that led from the river up to the Brinnington estate. I believe (may be wrong) it was destroyed when the developers built the new properties on the playing fields.
@andrewschmitz9707
@andrewschmitz9707 4 года назад
Had to watch this a second timr,and such a cool thing to see these boys into the history of it all.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Cheers Andrew
@rydermike33
@rydermike33 4 года назад
Excellent as always Martin. Great contribution from Chris and family and the lads from Jay Zay. Really good to see young people taking an interest in their local history. Many thanks.
@chokeizm
@chokeizm 4 года назад
i LOVE the way the whole family is involved
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Yeah it was a good day and thanks
@chokeizm
@chokeizm 4 года назад
@@MartinZero thank you for bringing us hours and hours of non stop content awesome chanell cant fault nothing
@macbuff81
@macbuff81 4 года назад
That's some beautiful scenery
@jessiec1194
@jessiec1194 4 года назад
We have railroad embankments here in northern Kentuckythat are huge with culverts that do double duty as roads, very narrow and low, date to early 1900's. I don't know of any borrow pits so I imagine they shifted Earth from cuttings and redistributed it. Great fun trying to drive through them during heavy rains!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Sounds great Jessie
@mikeclarke3882
@mikeclarke3882 4 года назад
Martin, You never have to apologise for the content of your videos....they're always great. Bought my first house right next to Reddish Vale back in the mid 70's, so your collaboration with Zak and Jack was very interesting. The Vale seems a lot more wooded now than I remember. Shame the was no Viaduct to left to find in your first segment, but still, that little archway (whatever it was) and the twin culverts were a great find. Thanks again!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks very much Mike
@suecordingley538
@suecordingley538 4 года назад
I’ve loved these videos Martin and it’s nice to know your getting out and about 😀
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks very much Sue
@johngresty5063
@johngresty5063 4 года назад
Strines wier looks like an old flash lock, used to make a river navigable. These only needed a single gate to allow boats to climb and descend between levels.
@suzyqualcast6269
@suzyqualcast6269 3 года назад
Really, interesting point, never heard that before.
@lindamccaughey6669
@lindamccaughey6669 4 года назад
Really enjoyed that. Miss mash is just great, especially the boys good on them hope their channel goes well. Thanks Martin for taking me along and please stay safe
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 4 года назад
Martin you really make Sundays great. If you think this was a mish-mash it was one great mish-mash. It was very uplifting, everywhere you go there is beautiful countryside. It would be great to have a DeLorean time machine and go back a hundred years or so and see how things were. I am always amazed at the quality of the workmanship that was done back in the day. In the tunnel could that slot have been for venting of some sort? Again another great video. Thanks...….
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks very much Mike, Oh to have that Time machine
@katherinekinnaird4408
@katherinekinnaird4408 4 года назад
Thank you to Chris and family.
@bobingram6912
@bobingram6912 4 года назад
Yet more loose ends to be sorted!!! Did I notice a certain river creeping back into your vid 😃😆🤣 Great to see the boys taking an interest in history - bit of a novelty these days.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Yep the Irk made an appearance. Yeah the Lads are very keen and thanks Bob
@chrisspain5411
@chrisspain5411 4 года назад
A nice lighthearted video. It's great that you have some budding competition in the making. I hope this inspires more young people to explore their local history and share it with others.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Cheers Chris
@Growlertrim
@Growlertrim 4 года назад
Another fascinating video and wonderful to see these young protegé̩s whom you've inspired!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks you, yes they are great lads
@oldmanhuppiedos
@oldmanhuppiedos 4 года назад
A nice historical vlog, also from the family. Got a holiday feeling about it. How nice that Zack, Jack and Sam are so busy with history, thumbs up.
@Dave64track
@Dave64track 4 года назад
Good magazine style video enjoyed the special guest made a change great lads they should do well. Loving the back in time railway adventures you never know what you find hidden in these over grown places. It always astonishes me in the work involved in making these tunnels and bridges all by hand and wheel barrow amazing really.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks David
@DavidSevern
@DavidSevern 4 года назад
Love the guest productions its got so much potential, I went to one of the many Brunel viaducts in my area yesterday with my 4 Yr old son who does indeed watch your chanel too..
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 4 года назад
What area is that. I know of some of the bridges and viaducts brunell built, mainly for the GWR.
@DavidSevern
@DavidSevern 4 года назад
@@simontay4851 exeter torbay Plymouth etc
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Ahh thats brilliant and send him my regards
@marklongman6882
@marklongman6882 3 года назад
A great video and boys were fantastic, so good to see them interested in their local history. We'll done all 👍
@KingstonHomeMaintenance
@KingstonHomeMaintenance 4 года назад
I was intrigued by this and thought I would investigate, I've been map reading for some years and I believe you may have been slightly off track as the viaduct didn't run through the copse of trees but slightly in front, I plotted a line on an old map then overlaid the with today's google map. At the same time the plotted line will,stay in place and you can overlay an O/S map and take a grid bearing then convert to a magnetic bearing, anyway this is how I saw it didn't run through the trees, also it wasn't there for that long. Use the national library of Scotland maps archive, brilliant tool for research. Ps i was going to email the the map screen capture overlay to you, but couldn't find an email address. Another edit, I've been looking at the geography of this place and a few things jump out at me, the first being that it's a dead straight line, the second is that from the mill to the colliery there is a rise of 200ft in altitude, 725ft to 925ft, next is that the tram way is totally isolated and not connected to anything which suggest to me it was built from the pit for the sole purpose of supplying the mill, which then lead me to believe this could have been either a pulley system tramway or the wagons went up and down the tramway under their own weight? What you think Martin?
@olje411
@olje411 4 года назад
Mike B I have been wanting to find map bearings from old maps to today’s os to get compass bearings for a long time now but couldn’t find how to do it. I can see what you mean but could you tell me how i can do this in a bit more detail. :) Thanking you in advance.
@ivanhockenhull2604
@ivanhockenhull2604 4 года назад
Great stuff. All the kids in the videos were charming. Atmospheric guitar redolent of intro to Smash It Up by The Damned. Peerless, Martin 🇯🇪
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Ivan
@INFLICTEDPAIN213
@INFLICTEDPAIN213 Год назад
Another great remnants of a train bearing viaduct is the like that runs across Malton and Norton in North Yorkshire where it used to cross the Derwent river the old viaduct looked incredible. Sad there isn't th full thing left but there is the giant embankment leading up to the river edge with the pillars still remaining
@timothyclarke7689
@timothyclarke7689 4 года назад
Martin. With respect to your missing viaduct. I would suggest that it was originally built of wood. Spoil from the mines was subsequently tipped over the viaduct sides. This provided extra strength, eventually making the viaduct an embankment. On the other hand, I may be completely wrong. The tunnels under the railway, which you suggest were previous rights of way, do not seem to have a lot of headroom. It could be that this was a waggon way, especially as the tunnel seems to have a severe bend. It is nice to see younger people having an interest in exploring their surroundings Keep up the good work.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Timothy
@SueGirling68
@SueGirling68 4 года назад
Hi Martin, what a great & jam packed video, phew. I loved the video that Chris made of some awesome history of the railway there before things changed., his Daughter seemed like a very bright girl and his Son was lovely too. I also loved the video of you with Zack, Jack, Sam and Mum, it's so refreshing to see young lads getting involved in history and they really knew what they were talking about too so kudos to them for that. Thank you for sharing another great magazine style video, take care. xx💖
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thank you Sue, yes the lads know their stuff
@geoffreykail9129
@geoffreykail9129 4 года назад
You gotta keep those two youngsters in the mix. They're natural and energetic.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks Geoffrey, yeah they are great
@steverpcb
@steverpcb 4 года назад
When anyone mentions Hull I can only think of Only Fool And Horses - To Hull And Back :)
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
I saw New Order there once
@del69raptorking
@del69raptorking 4 года назад
Haha i live in Hull and have the same full name as Del minus the er.
@maxwellmc9734
@maxwellmc9734 4 года назад
Brilliant videos
@MrAbowker
@MrAbowker 4 года назад
Great that you will be getting out, but I have to say I do like this type of video also. It reminds my a bit of Nationwide - remember that. It would go well with your Hillman Avenger. If you are going back to Reddish you could catch the once a week train to Reddish South station from Stockport.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Someone else has mentioned that train Alex. The twice a week one
@alanhesketh9265
@alanhesketh9265 3 года назад
@@MartinZero I used to travel from Stalybridge to Stockport via Reddish South every day between 1966-9 to go to school. :)
@Tuberuser187
@Tuberuser187 4 года назад
Our lad Martin uploading us more great content, thank you!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks very much
@forkhandles6139
@forkhandles6139 4 года назад
Wonderful, nice to see young fans joining in too
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Yeah, great lads
@forkhandles6139
@forkhandles6139 4 года назад
@@MartinZero budding martin zeros indeed
@valerielongmore5040
@valerielongmore5040 4 года назад
Very interesting well done all!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thank you Valerie
@navigator902
@navigator902 3 года назад
Martin Zero... an inspirational influence, witness, and victim, here.... on how he motivates others.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 3 года назад
Thank you Frank
@leeetchells609
@leeetchells609 3 года назад
Hi Martin. I'm a bricklayer and I can tell you the hole left in the bridge was certainly built for a reason. It would take great skill and a lot of cutting of bricks by hammer and chisel to create that slot! I have heard it was built to drop mail bags from the trains?
@haroldhorseposture9435
@haroldhorseposture9435 4 года назад
So......the kids know of Pollard's brewery ? 'Twas good stuff. Next week ,Hartshead powerstation engine shed perchance? There were some items of interest around there from it's days as a mainline. Can't say too much - walls have ears !! Well done agin. On Stockport and railways; if you are on the M60 ,heading from Bredbury to Stockport, as you go under the viaduct, thereabouts, there's an old refuge visible in what was the sandstone cutting , of the line down from Woodley thru' Tiviot Dale and on to points west. I "famously" had a can of beans explode on the in-cab cooker on a class 47 passing thru' there! which now forms the motorway embankment .
@tracya4087
@tracya4087 4 года назад
love what was tiviot dale
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Your very intuitive 😉 You drove a 47 ????
@haroldhorseposture9435
@haroldhorseposture9435 4 года назад
@@MartinZero Drove many 47's. In all 10 mainline types and 08 / "350"'s. As for 47's , they were the "basic traction" you learned in the school on the driver's course. You went in great depth on them , as this was also formed the segment of the course on how locos work in general and about the various sub-systems that make up a loco , such as air ,oil, cooling, fire systems , braking systems , be that air vacuum, ,electrical and mechanical theory, and techniques for driving, braking , fault finding, ,in short- everything . The level of involvement and depth of the course was top-notch. I reckon you'd have really liked it . Not like today , alas. I'm guessing from the "vibe" of your past vlogs , 47's may be your fave loco ? I really shoulda pierced that ther bean can , though ..........
@fiegenfiegen
@fiegenfiegen 3 года назад
13:31: Nice stroll! I love the blackbirds singing in the background.
@pambrown8697
@pambrown8697 3 года назад
Love the young adventurers, great stuff! But I can remember being interested in local history when I was around that age...
@joylunn3445
@joylunn3445 4 года назад
Can't get enough of disused railways.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
They are very popular Joy
@christopherbraiden6713
@christopherbraiden6713 4 года назад
Thank you and your friends for sharing there places to see with you have enjoyed thanks!!😎🐓🐓🇬🇧
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks very much Christopher
@dianespears6057
@dianespears6057 4 года назад
Always good, Martin. Please consider setting up a Patreon page. You so much research and work. The more support, the better, to keep it going. (I do not want to do the You Tube join thing.) Thank you.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Ok Diane and thanks
@danielbarrows7144
@danielbarrows7144 4 года назад
Loved the goggles Martin your videos are most entertaining! The slot in the giants money 💰 box 📦 was where the giant put his coins 🤣 🕳🏦👍🏻😎
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
🤓👍
@jimhammond6395
@jimhammond6395 3 года назад
Martin I used to walk through the tunnel at Upton when I was a kid in the 60s the hull to Barnsley line there is a group that are trying to get it up and running through the tunnel to the A1 from Upton it's about 2 miles long
@jdinnen1
@jdinnen1 4 года назад
Well done Jack and Zak..
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thank you, they are great
@peteandmaggie8570
@peteandmaggie8570 4 года назад
You'll have to do more around Stockport it's got some incredible history and this is from a mancunian.....one for reddish I read somewhere that it had a temporary ski slope, I thought it was a joke but it turnout to be true.
@tracya4087
@tracya4087 4 года назад
yes tiviot dale
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Yeah I think I read about it
@tracya4087
@tracya4087 4 года назад
@@MartinZero it s on youtube martin
@pbartmess
@pbartmess 4 года назад
You have great rapport with the kids! You've made this magazine style format quite interesting. Thanks for keeping this going through the lockdown.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks very much Patrick
@g1fsh
@g1fsh 4 года назад
Excellent video Martin realy enjoyed this one.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Cheers Gary
@bcegerton
@bcegerton 4 года назад
Really enjoyed watching the young lads, so refreshing seeing them interested in local history, pity Strines Weir is no more. In Reddish near to Hyde Road at Debdale Park there’s a path that was actually an old canal leading to the Ashton Canal at Openshaw facing Greggs Bakery, I was brought up down on the estate to the left after we left Miles Platting , before you get to the bridge at the end.
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Is that the one at the top of Reddish Lane Brian ?
@bcegerton
@bcegerton 4 года назад
Martin Zero I think so mate, where all the pipe work is/was, been 30 years since I’ve been up there
@sciroccomods
@sciroccomods 4 года назад
@@MartinZero Going the other way from Reddish lane it went to Holdsworth mill, Broadstone mill then to the top of Lancashire hill. there is another weir in Reddish vale called Harrisons weir.
@gregbolitho9775
@gregbolitho9775 4 года назад
nice work martin an everybody else. keep up the good work, stay safe an well eh!
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thanks very much Greg
@leeetchells609
@leeetchells609 3 года назад
Hi Martin. Next time you visit reddish vale look for the canal they started building in 1795. It was called the beat bank branch and was to run from reddish to the coal mines in Denton. After two years digging the canal was abandoned. I have found sections of it and places where it was filled in.
@lairdstephenrousek.r.o.6505
@lairdstephenrousek.r.o.6505 4 года назад
Hello Martin, this is abit vague, but I'm not from around Manchester, but a few days ago, I deliver around, what seems to be new'ish industrial development, in the Trafford area, and came across either a train or tram line, next to the road. It was set into the cobbles or concrete, apart from a 100 yards of it. Very interesting, And wondered if you had any information on it. My satnav had just packed up, so I didn't take notice of the road, all I remember was alot of mini roundabouts. And quite modern industrial units. That's all cheers Steve 👍
@sciroccomods
@sciroccomods 4 года назад
Sounds like Trafford park near to bowlers to me, tracks run towards kellogg's cereals factory
@richcampoverde
@richcampoverde 4 года назад
So many great things about this vid i dont know where to start. My mum grew up near kirk ella she would have loved to have loved to have seen her old stomping grounds.
@thelegoshed
@thelegoshed 4 года назад
Where did she end up RIver. It makes us laugh because my mother and father in law are from Martin's neck of the woods. The shame it brings me to have married into a Manchester family I tell you. Father in law was brought up in Summerseat and the drunker he gets, the more Lancy he gets :)
@MartinZero
@MartinZero 4 года назад
Thank you
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