I’m only 26 minutes into this video and I can already tell that Graham did it. He told them all these stories of gold and lured them out to this remote area and then killed them. He needs to be brought to justice for sure.
I’m only about 20 minutes in and I agree. However, what I can’t figure out is the motive? Perhaps it’ll come, but I’m impatient and always comment “too early” 😂
just want to say I've been here since episode 1 and I truly admire how the production quality has improved over the years! You guys have always been entertaining to watch, and it has been fun to see you grow over time and find your groove. Thanks for the great content!
Oh my god. Graham practically gave himself up and explained what happened in his weird cryptic speech. !!! This was so tragic to hear. The team did amazing as always.
OMG yes yes yes😮 my thoughts exactly. My heart hurts at the thought of what she might be going through. Graham is a creep & I wouldn't put anything past him😢
Hi Kendall, Josh and Crew! I love your videos and have been a fan for years but I have wanted to say that I think the "teaser" aspect at the beginning of your videos actually spoils the case somewhat and I don't think it's necessary because we have already clicked your video so we clearly want to watch it! Maybe you could post the teaser as a RU-vid Short or Instagram /socials post. Just a piece of friendly criticism, again I love you guys and your videos :)
Going out on a limb here BUT no one knows where he went for almost a day. He was infatuated with Jenny, could she still be alive and being held by him somewhere in the middle of nowhere. I know its a push but it is kinda possible.
Coming from an Australian, I’m certain there’s so many missing persons in abandoned mineshafts or disused mines that are not there by accident. My dad was murdered, wrapped in a rug and thrown into a disused Poona Copper Mine in Australia and still no answers to who did it. I feel for this family and I hope they get answers ❤️
Unless people see where these mine shafts are and how many there are, you can't possibly grasp the vastness of it. I've been to Coober Pedy three times (passing through, but need somewhere to stay). Scares the living f**k outta me. I'm so sorry for your loss.
I think Graham lied about the route he drove home because he disposed of Jennie along the way home, somewhere very far from Ray and where they're searching.
Yup Graham had something to do with it. I can't believe there wasn't a better investigation done with him. I hope their families get closure and justice one day. As always you guys do a great job.
I find it hard to believe that they would have brought their dog, Ella at all if she was prone to running off constantly. This wasn’t exactly a safe area with mine shafts everywhere and I can’t imagine they would risk her running off and falling into one. They brought her bc she was always by Rays side and knew she would be fine.
@lilliawrighy3771, exactly!! I am a fur baby mama and I would never take my pups anywhere that would be unsafe! Them bringing Ella tells me that she was very well trained and obedient and wouldn’t run off at the sight of wildlife. They wouldn’t have brought her if they couldn’t trust her to stay safe. I feel so awful thinking about her waiting for Ray and Jenny to return, then having to leave the area to get food and water when they didn’t come back 😢
Oh you’re doing cases abroad?! Please cover the case of Lorenzo Gonzales Cacho if you can. It’s gone unsolved for 14 years the anniversary of his death is on March 9th apporoaching closely. Puertorican cases aren’t covered at all in the U.S. even though we are part of the U.S. making us Americans too. The little boy deserves justice and this case is so intricate. It’s not talked about enough. the whole case shook the entire island in Puerto Rico and it still bothers and hurts us to this day… I understand if you’re not able to cover it. Love your coverage of cases hope you and the family have a great day and night! Edit: Please let me know if you need help with Spanish for this case if you decide to cover it as my first language is Spanish and my grandpa was a lieutenant in the Police on this case.
I think he was jealous of Ray and killed him. Then sexually abused her for an amount of time due to his initial infatuation and then dismissal by her-which has simmered this whole time. He could have taken her with him and carried on with this for a time and disposed of her body anywhere-which is why they are not finding her in the desert.
I can't believe I have never heard of this case . How do we know that this trip was not an elaborate plan to kidnap Jenny? She could be being held somewhere. My deepest sympathies go out to all involved.
What are the odds that both of them die in SEPARATE accidents?? And I highly doubt either of them would have just abandoned the other if they had gotten hurt.
If it helps, we don't have basements in Australia. Or attics. Though, a lot of houses have a small/short space between the living area ceiling and the roof of the house. But we don't use it, unless it's to put a central heater unit up there (we just set and forget).
I think it's likely he would have disposed of this poor victim somewhere in the middle of nowhere...which isn't far to get to here in Australia. Much of our land is uninhabited, especially in the middle. Our highest population is around the edges, near the water.
From here in Bendigo, Australia.. last week I found a red-back spider in my shed, a friend found a brown snake in their yard and we often see kangaroos hopping down the street. Very normal when living here, I love how everyone talks about Australia 😂
I live in Perth and we have a resident Redback Spider living in our bathroom. If you don't bother the spider it won't bother you. We have heaps of spiders and modern medicine means no one has died from Redback Spiders bites for decades.
I’m from Canberra and I see all of these things too! Super common and honestly not the biggest issue, they are more scared of you and will just run away! Just don’t try to touch any of them cause 2 outta 3 are poisonous and kangaroos will rip you apart with their feet/hands if threatened. Otherwise no problems haha
I’m from Tamworth NSW, what can I say same here with the spider’s, Snakes, Roos, But wouldn’t want to be anywhere else in the world, We I are very lucky
Graham admitted he was so angry that he “went off for 18 hours”. This is a big clue. He was angry. I don’t believe it had anything to do with the dog. He needs to be pressed harder about what he was really angry about. Also, how long was it determined that he was dead? Was the gun tested for blood?
Exactly. He told on himself there. And it doesn't make sense they never found her. Why would they be seperated and both "disappear"? One would think they would be together.
@@Emma-ou6jqright? About a dog of all things? Him being angry was the only truthful thing he said, IMO. Their family saying his strange behavior of them inviting him to dinner but him going and eating alone is very telling. I think he might have tried to make a move on Jenny/was infatuated with her and she rejected him and that is what he was angry and jealous about. He could have been angry for a long time for that reason but the rage would have been simmering long before the trip.
I'm familiar with this case, but what I've learned since the first time I heard about it is that Australia doesn't give a damn about you! Even if they do find the murderer, they get a slap on the wrist. It's common for a cold-blooded murderer to only get 10 years, then they'll let him out to do it again. I've stopped watching a lot of true crime stories from there, because it's so frustrating how little they care about their citizens.
Except you probably won’t be killed at school or college or a store or a parade or a concert by a mass shooter. America can’t get sensible gun laws right. And gun manufacturers are so protected, families can never sue them. If they could, the companies would literally make all guns safer.
Yes… and it’s so much worse since c🤢vid…. The WA government or our big state daddy McGowan went full on n@z! … he also introduced some pretty nasty tyrannical bills before he stepped down….
Was proper surveillance ever done on Graham? If we're to assume that Graham was in love with, or had an unhealthy obsession with Jennie, how do we know that he didn't kidnap her that day and still has her and is perhaps being held against her will somewhere? Any Aussie familiar with this case know any more about it?
Kendall, every night I fall asleep to crime case videos, here on RU-vid and of course to your videos often. Last night I had my first dream about something from one of those videos and it was you! We were hanging out, trying to solve a case and you were just the coolest, calmest, beautiful person in my dream, too. I was a little sad when I woke up. 😂❤
Soon as I heard she met this guy to see her back and they hit it off about this prospecting and he proposed this trip now her husband said she's missing could she be being held captive by this crazy man
Thank goodness you’ve shared and shine some light on this case! I might live in Tasmania in Australia but this has baffled me for years. Mainland Australia is weird…but then again you 2 should do a story about a few of our unsolved disappearances in Tasmania, starting with Louise Fairfax.
I had a really bad day but just hearing you two really brought me back down to a place of content when I couldn't get myself in that place. Thank you ❤
Kendall and Josh I absolutely love your videos and stories. Kendall’s channel is what got me into true crime about 3-4years ago and I’ve listened to almost all of your episodes since. You two do a wonderful job talking about the victims and I just want to say bravo!
My heart goes out to these families. I can’t imagine not being able to lay a loved one to rest. And how frustrating this case was handled by authorities.
Yes!!!! The APD keep brushing it off as nothing . I’m terrified because I frequent there as I live in San Marcos . My husband still works in Austin tho.
Any dog lover whose fur baby is supposedly running off after any and all moving creatures is absolutely NOT going to leave their dog outside all night unattended. The dog would be either secured in the tent with mom and dad or possibly in the car with water and partially opened windows. I do not believe Graham saw Ella outside on her own/unattended when he returned at 3a even a little bit. He obviously is not a pet owner/lover.
Btw, the hyoid is the only free-floating bone in the body. It’s protected by the extremely strong strap muscles of the neck as well as being encased in a cushion of soft tissue. Hence, it is extremely difficult to break without intense direct pressure. I’d wager that a hyoid bone has never broken as the result of a free fall. Ever. Can’t be sure, but I’d put money on it.
Aussie here and long time watcher of all the channels and i just wanna say thank you to everyone on the team for covering stories emerging in Aus that dont get much media attention. I also love hearing yall shout-out our island in passing convo in past episodes 🥰💚
Are you following one in Victoria atm about Samantha Murphy who went out for her morning jog and simply vanished? It's been almost 4 weeks now. It's literally in my backyard, less than 1km away. The theories surrounding her disappearance are getting up there. I think we can all agree that she didn't just wander off a track and fall into a mineshaft (even though there are at least 5000 mapped in the town, with a possible another 5000 unmapped)
Australia... where everything is trying to "unalive" you! Graham is as suss AF! I hope that the truth of what happened in this case comes to light and justice is done.
It’s funny isn’t it. The only animal I have ever felt threatened by personally has been pet dogs 😂 Americans have bears. I’ll take a funnel web or snake any day of the week
Unfortunately, if you know the Australian outback, especially WA, the chances of finding Jennie are slim. The outback is vast, and an extremely harsh environment, it’s so difficult to find anybody even if they are still alive. We often wonder just how many victims are out there over here, because you could really never find someone. I truly hope Graham is brought to justice one day.
❤ I love how great at storytelling you both are❤ you bring the stories to life and with all you both do , it helps spread awareness about these crimes and that hopefully it helps to find answers ❤
There's no doubt in my mind that Graham had something to do with their deaths, he was the only other person there. I think he killed the husband first and then assaulted the wife and then killed her and dispose of her remains miles n miles away from the scene of the camp. It's so sad to see her kid's going through this tragedy.
you should definitely look into Brenda Lin and her family’s story!! it’s not unsolved but its 100% one of the most heart wrenching and inspiring cases ever
I fought my whole mind and body from watching this as soon as I got the notification just so I could wait until my kids go to sleep & watch uninterrupted. & I'm glad I did lol
I absolutely love your channel Josh and Kendall! I love the teasers too! Thank you for always letting us know the information on these cases. I do hope they find Jennie 🥺😔
I'm from this area born and raised but when this happened I was already living in Canada and NEVER heard of this case. Not even from my Australian family... That says SO much about how little these things are reported on which is unacceptable. I managed to keep it together this entire video until the very end when you told us about the complete strangers who've gone out looking for Jenny every weekend for years. The extreme ends of the spectrum of mankind's capabilities, extreme evil and extreme compassion are baffling.
Long time watcher (all shows) first time poster! I’m from Western Australia and I remember when this was happening. So surreal to hear to speak on a case I know about/ is local to me ❤ Love all your shows! Thank you for keeping me entertained weekly 😘
Hi Josh and Kendall, brilliant podcast. Your frustration is evident and widely shared. Kendall, Wubin is pronounced “woo-bin”, so you got it right. Thank you!
Anyone that carries a firearm knows you only shoot ONE warning shot. You dont want to loose too much ammunition in the event your firearm is needed. However a warning shot is only used when you intend to use the firearm. No hunter worth their salt is going to waste ammunition just to dick around.
This is so sad Graham could have left her body anywhere during the 9-hour trip home. He could have held her somewhere I hope and pray the family gets answers someday
If that dog could talk... MAAAAAN. If animals could talk in general, alot of crimes would be solved. What even happened to the dog? Did they find it? Did it die? 😢
I worked at Cloudbreak mine and spent time around the goldfields. She’s a wild expanse of rugged and harsh land with some very unusual characters. I think he kidnapped Jenny and disposed of her elsewhere.
GREAT to have you talk about an Australian case - two more you might look at - The murder of an aged retired couple (having an affair) in the Victorian High Country being murdered by an ex jet star pilot - he has been arrested the case is due to come up and of course the mushroom murderer case - also in Victoria - she is arrested waiting trial (3 family members died)
Excellent work as always to the Mile Higher Crew!!!!! This case is so sad and frustrating!!! I wish the investigation had been handled properly from the beginning. My sympathy to the families and friends of Ray & Jenny. I do hope Jenny is found and the truth of what happened comes to light. Rest in Peace Ray & Jenny 🕊️
Mike Higher Media is always coming through! My day so far: The Sesh TC with Kendall Rae Now Mile Higher, and Lights Out while I cook dinner (let the sushi thaw on the counter, while I sit on the couch) Thank you all for a great day!
