It’s really not a big deal, Karina is not an uncommon name and it’s not even her real name, so what’s the issue? Just because the names are similar doesn’t make it a big deal
@@Starlight06you gonna comment on how everything else for a *virtual* character are the same as Karina? Not even 1cm difference in height, the exact same. Stop defending Hybe with your life.
HYBE shouldn't be put the blame on for wherever your group doesn't get a comeback 😅 people really fail to understand that HYBE is just an umbrella company,that kind of things regarding groups are still up to their own company (in this case,Pledis Entertainment).
I mean Karina is the most recognised 4th generation idol alongside Wonyoung. So it wouldn't surprise if they are obsessed with her same way they are obsessed with Illit becoming the next New Jeans.
Tell me you've never played a game ever in your entire life without telling me you've never played a single game EVER. 🤣🤣 99% of games WITH character customization you can change their voice, their walk, their height AND their weight. 🙄 please stop letting yourself be brainwashed by "facts" that aren't even there. You should also look up all other virtual groups CUASE THEY HAVE MBTI PERSONALITY TYPE AS WELL. MAVE all four members have personality types as well and they're an AI created group.
Y’all say this in every single situation lmao, y’all said this when BadVillain got into a “plagiarism” controversy with Baemon, y’all said it about ILLIT and NewJeans, y’all said it about Fatou’s mixtape and Baemon’s song Batter Up, etc etc, it’s just y’all’s little catchphrase by now😂 ridiculous
@@aespahyperstanNah if u see the slide where she shows the official info with MBTI, height etc it's clearly written "canary" on top. People just took the Korean spelling and then misunderstood it.
The name is a nod to a bird know for singing and I belive another member is called raven so its clearly bird related and for the MBTI and Height I can show you about a 100 other idols with the same things. I don't like or support Hybe and I feel bad for the groups they've tried to sabotage but not everything is some evil power play and y'all really need to stop blaming the groups like their super villains their people working their ass off for a paycheck. Also the character has red hair which Karina has never had.
Idk why they just so hard pressed on hybe obsession of AESPA when it's clearly group thay filled with bird based name member. Canary was clearly known as singing bird and canary name didn't change that much in some language like indonesian is Kenari and korean kanari. So using canary name also banned now??
Kpop stans and k-netizens are so dumb😂. Its just a small coincidence. And even if hybe is doing it intentionally for attention,then after knowing Hybe's intentions why are you even giving them attention. And those who are mad about hybe's intention towards aespa. Guys every company is rival to each other. They all wanted to crash the one who are at top. This is called competition for your kind information. Just stop overreacting over such things. The only one whose life is being affected in this drama is kpop stans.
@@Bloomie-l7y saying it as healthy competition is fine but to step on someone is unacceptable and they way he worded is not cool too.lets the draw the line between your decency and goals here.
It was probably a marketing plan to bring more attention to the group, which I didn’t even know was going to debut and now I do because of this controversy.
it wouldnt be anything if canary was a real person but its literally a character design they had to put thought into so its weird that there are so many coincidences
Aespa fans are delusional 😭 I mean they demanded Karina to apologize to them for having a boyfriend 😭 that should tell you everything you need to knows about aespa fans 😭
Too big of a coincidence to not be copied yk? Like why tf do we need to know the HEIGHT and MBTI of a virtual gg? He even told MHJ to crush Aespa so it feels even lesser of a coincidence.
@@ChinkooTheCat do you guys realise it's completely normal to compete with other grps other companies surely do say these things too it's normal for companies to say "we have to beat that grp" You guys don't know how many times companies have tried to crush xx grp It's competitive industry it's normal you guys behave like he did some crime saying it all companies say it
@@Autumn_.leaves I get what ur saying but you cant deny that they do or may have some sort with aespa and especially Karina. How come they talk about only crushing Aespa and not any other gg? Like example : IVE, NMIXX, ITZY. Why not those? They seem to be kinda targeted to Aespa and Aespa only. Bang Shihyuk was also only interested in crushing Asepa with NJ not any other gg.+ Is the height and MBTI necessary for a virtual gg? Think about it. They arent exactly a normal gg are they? no. They are a VIRTUAL gg. These types of information wouldnt be THAT necessary, sure it provides info about a fictional gg member but what else does it do? Nothing. Ik members can have similar height but since this is a virtual gg, it could have evn ranged from 155 cm to 160 cm yk? The height and MBTI are pretty similar tho, you cant deny it. MBTI does vary but they could have chosen like a very rare type of MBTI to bring interest to the character but since it seems similar to Karina the character doesnt really appeal to me. It could also have been used as a clever marketing strategy to bring attention to the character and popularize it. No denying it prolly worked cuz I have seen videos talking about it. No hate towards them since they havent even debuted yet, especially Kanary. im just waiting for their debut cuz IF Bang Shihyuk was tryna copy Aespa or Karina, it would show in their MV, but from the picture shown, it may be completely different.
Well heigh,name,four members but other group also has four member,the group name syndi8 smiliar to aespa lore synk have you see aespa girls ablum photo its almost look similar to the virtual pic here
@@Bruhhhhhhhhhhhhh8AESPA was also called a copy of KDA and Blackpink when they debuted. The reasons were also the same as you wrote. 4 members, virtual characters, similar scenes in the MV, use of a snake, similar colors etc. So maybe we should go back to when AESPA is also called copy? Since you are looking for justice and uncopied content so much. Or maybe you just favor AESPA?
@@betxengi5388 KDA was fit with league of legends and as is said four members other group have it too, does blackpink or kda use snake? Or any other group,virtual characters was only done by aespa at that time,pink colour and since MV also made with their lore evey MV was according to their lore maby you should check deeper more
omg canary is close to karina they must be copying?!!? y'all do realize that's like saying "yunjin is close to yujin, le sserafim must be copying ive?!!?" like be fr, they're not even that similar. and i didn't realize karina owned being 168 cm (the average height for girls in Korea) and an entp (one of the most common mbti's) 🙄
What about all the idols with the same names? What about all the idols at the same heights? What about all the idols out there with the same mbti? Are they copying each other now because of it?
@@user-fv5os4gk8bMAVE and PLAVE are virtual groups and they also have descriptions including their height, MBTI, favourite colour/food, etc. It’s only a problem now because it’s HYBE, otherwise y’all would be silent. Your reply is literally irrelevant.
I don’t think it was intentional,cuz why would hybe care about some girl group when they have LE SSERAFIM,NEW JEANS,BTS,TXT,ENHYPEN ,even more,idk where the accusations of trying to bring aespa down just cuz some girl has similar information to other idols,and ig that means I can’t debut cuz I share the same birthday as yoongi and my name is the same to as a black pink member ,so I can’t debut,you see how silly that is
@@thatlastbacteriainsoapads you must not chronically online on twt then, they never copied txt coz the mv was actually an advertisement sponsored by kookmin bank so sm had nothing to do with it besides all those alleged copied scenes are basic scenes where several other old groups have done it so many times in the past, it's not special
One is named “카나리아“ or “Canaria”, the other is spelled “카리나“, you wrote “Karina” in Korean twice, and that’s just how you spell “Canary” in Korean. I’m an aespa Stan, but y’all need to do more research
@@missinglooonaSM is obsessed with BTS. First he tried to buy them when they started to gain popularity, but since Bang PD refused them, they created SuperM to match them in popularity and they failed again. You could say that the SM obsession has been going on since 2015-2016
@@missinglooonaNot to mention that EXO fans were also the ones who started the petition due to BTS winning their first Daesang in their career. This petition went all the way to the head of state. Yes, EXO is also group from SM.
It isn't even about AESPA. 💀 There is a real human girl group behind, there can be someone with similar height to Karina, and Kanari is a common name for God's sake, stop overthinking.
@@pratikroy227There’s literally a DC superhero named Canary just with different spelling. When I first saw HYBE’s character, I thought of her first and Karina never even crossed my mind.
@@koreandomination.The only thing this conversation showed is that he just wants New Jeans to beat Aespa in popularity and charts. Nothing more. You repeat sick fan theories which are not confirmed by anything. This short you watched is also a theory, not fact. It seems that you have a hard time distinguishing between events that are actually happening and a made-up theory
I'm a my and enfp and 168 are pretty common in kpop i could list you many idols with the same description im not supporting hybe but yall need to calm tf down on them tho
Don't forget that SM created SuperM to beat BTS in the west. They also tried to buy BTS in the past because they were threatening EXO's popularity and SM didn't want them to surpass them. SM used and still uses dirty tricks, but when AESPA copied TXT everyone suddenly forgives them
@@betxengi5388says who and those wasnt from LSM himself.why are you talking as if you on his behalf lmao? 🤡its just bts fans feeling insecure toward exo and that they needed to gatekeeping west from others kpop groups lol. fans dont represent CEO themselves so dont bother explaining theory,we aren't interested. 😴
@@betxengi5388your group is number one right now too bribery encore (who tf need to do that from big 3),bulk buying seventeen and whats worse they dont even provide good training for their artist especially newer.
@@betxengi5388 if you search for superM, you can clearly see the reason of superM was established.google is there for you to use it but that if you can use property.
Other companies while debuting new groups: Individual member teasers, pre-debut documentary, Debut Promotions etc. Hybe Debuting a new group: *EXCLUSIVE CONTROVERSY*
The reason as to why SM made the group. They sure must’ve had trainees as well if I am not missing anything. But yeah, virtual groups are weird either way.
Um, it’s just a name? It sounds like canary the bird rather than Karina, are you sure that y’all aren’t the ones “obsessed” with HYBE? Had it been any other company or group, you’d have written it off as a coincidence, but calling it obsession? That’s a stretch. If y’all are trying to link it to the “step on Aespa” thing, please get a life and move on. All companies do keep track of how the competition is doing. Not defending BSH, but he just got caught speaking of it when this happens all the time. Welcome to corporate life.
i think this is just people paying too close attention because 1. how else are they meant to spell the name in hangul 💀 2. theres a real person behind the virtual character and i highly doubt they specifically looked for someone that was similar to karinas mbti and height
Umm i really do not understand, so you are telling me if I name my daughter Karina then i am obsessed with Karina and i see no similarities in their faces, Karina do not have big eyes, Round face and there are so many Karina names, it looks to me like Netizen is obsessed with Hybe
Even if Min Hee-jin didn't expose those chats, people will still find it odd with all apparent similarities. Plus those chats as back story? Hype should have changed the character details. At this point, it's like they are feeding the accusations.
no, karina's hangul name is not kanari 카나리 her name is different they're swapped around let me show you: 카리나 that's the karina's name canary and karina because canary is an english name and karina is an english name but ca and ka is different but they're similar because korean doesn't pronounce ca because c and k are different but they're similar because koreans can pronounce the k only not the c hope you guys understand this. 💕
I think that everything that is succes ,they will do something similar or copy because it make good sales : black pink/ baby monster, new jeans/ illit...
Whats funny about kpop is the same could be said about people calling Moon Hee Jin a loser for saying Illit is copying NJ even though a lot of kpop idols have similar dance and comcepts but then blaming hype for making an ai generated perso who happens to be the same height and mbti and that is copying 😅
We can clearly see that how y'all are OBSESSED with hybe that y'all want your favs to have a link with hybe sooo bad, otherwise how do you know every details about hybe I bet not even hybe Stans know about the details you antis know 🙄
bs !!!...fans should criticize themselves for overthinking a lot..these fans are delusional and crazy as usual...they will relate every existence to their favourite idol and start criticizing it.
I don't know if I believe this or not, but if you watched aespa's new song called 'Hot Mess,' you noticed that the outfits from aespa and SYNDI8 look very similar. At 2:01, you can see karina's outfit, and the other members' outfits will show up later.
there is a mistake when there are pictures of their names in korean because both are "카나리" which is Kanari, but Karina is 카리나. But yeah, they're pretty similar..