Hysteria. 

Huge thanks for the shout-out, Brian. I think we had that conversation about the 12VHPWR cables. I think part of the problem is also viewer hysteria after the initial reddit or media hysteria. It creates a cycle -- the first big reddit post about a new controversy fuels crazy amounts of tweets, comments, emails to media outlets or YTers like us and others. We then feel pressure to say something or be yelled at for "brushing it under the rug." Sometimes people cave to that pressure and cover the matter tactlessly, like you're describing, or sometimes with tact. But that then magnifies the issue to another 100, 300, 500k people, who then worry in a similar way as the first people. Vicious cycle. And then it's hard to stick to no-clickbait goals when you watch a peer double your views on the same topic but with less work, and all because of a titling choice. So then, naturally, every now and then even those with intent to avoid clickbait (like us) occasionally throw in the towel and say, "you know what? Fine. We put a lot of work into this and it deserves to be seen. If that's what they want, we'll give it to them this time." Slippery slope, I think. We try to avoid it, but it's hard when you're actively hurting short term gains; however, I strongly believe it's better for a healthy industry and business long-term. Thanks again and great statements. Hard agree!

I also think GamersNexus is a shining example of integrity, which makes the rest of us look bad of course but what can you do. Excellent video Brian! 👍

Hey Brian :) 3:49 Just a note from my side on the comment "it's not a widespread" problem. At the time releasing my 2nd video on this I had confirmation of one AIB partner of an RMA rate of 9% on the 7900XTX MBA. And keep in mind that at this time the issue was not even that well known. You claim the batch was small and has been identified for recall. That's not true. AMD only said they know how to identify affected cards. Which can mean they know the affected S/N but it could also just mean that they know how to test a card and see if it throttles under load. The latest statement is still that AMD recommends to contact customer service. You still have to test the card yourself and prove that there is an issue. Then you also have to pay the shipping yourself. During all of the videos we did about this topic it was always highlighted that only MBA cards are affected and all other designs are fine. In one German forum alone they identified over 200 affected cards. If you extrapolate from there it means that globally thousands of cards have to be affected since we had reports from all over the world and not just Germany. 4:23 up to today we don't know how many are affected because AMD is not going to talk publicly about this.

All this mass hysteria is exactly why Brian and I are loosing our hair. Lol

Well said, Brian.

You're the only person I've seen give an explanation as to why the dies are cracking.

If only this concept of "do we have complete information" could be the way of the world.

OH MY GOD THANK YOU These kinds of topics have been coming up a lot lately and have genuinely been turning me off from PC hardware, which is something that I’ve loved for half my lifetime now. I have an RTX 4090 because I do actual work on my computer that actually warrants it, and I cannot possibly stress just how annoying it is to simply just be talking about a hobby I’m passionate about, and immediately have people swarming me all like “good luck when your house burns down” instead of contributing to the discussion at hand. Then it gets even more steered off track when I inevitably have to explain that the cables don’t even catch fire, they melt. And only if you don’t seat them properly which surprise surprise, I usually double check all my cables are seated whenever I make a hardware change, because when I was new to this like we all were at some point, that was a common mistake I made lol. There’s all this time I could be having a fun discussion about my hobby that I don’t get really get to have with anyone I know IRL, being wasted on having to repeat myself over and over again. Pair it with the general lackluster launches that have been happening lately where now I can’t even get just a little bit excited for a GPU, because I can feel it in the pit of my stomach that it’s genuinely horrible value, and can’t help but feel bad for the people who will inevitably buy it…just everything man. It’s just been a massive downer. If my own experience is indicative of anything, I would HATE to be an 7900XTX owner right now, because I imagine the ones who actually stay informed on this stuff are getting really fed up as well.

Great video, feels like you're talking about JayzTwoCwnts

Excellent synopsis of the " hysteria " that can rear its ugly head from the uninformed. Well said Brian

Most of these kids live in echo chambers and just repeat what they hear without any thought.... The minute you challenge them they only repeat what they heard or start with name calling.

I know Jay is out there and quietly offended.

I know a channel or two that’s always doing this.

Hmm, just 2cents?

Someone had to say this. Fearmongering only hurts the industry and the community. Thanks Brian, this really hits home.

This is basically the whole gamer meld channel.

As soon as I heard about those cracked GPUs, I knew it had to be mining related. Drivers just didn't make sense.

Examples of channels who feed into this hysteria - UFD tech/news and Jay 2 cents

This applies to every news outlet. Not just tech. All the time the latest drama about X celeb is being talked about by channels and bigger media. It's always misinformed and incorrect and biased towards the side that released their version of events first. Every story ends up changing as more information comes out so picking sides out the gate is always a dangerous game. Just wait for the full information and don't get into huge fights about it or convince yourself a particular fact is correct until the dust cloud has settled.

On the note of the 12vh power connector issues, given the tolerances of the connector are far too tight, at some point thete is blame that does need to land with the design, not just the end-user. If they're going to make the plug so difficult to plug in that the average user or the below average user will not push hard enough, then that is a design flaw and engineering flaw, and at that point is not a user error. On the nose of the AMD coolers, and you would never have even issued a response or investigated if news outlets like debaurer and Gamers Nexus didn't investigate. Andy had already denied warranty work and refunds on the affected cards, saying that the temperatures were normal. Sometimes outrage is necessary. Especially when it comes to mega-corporations that don't give a single shit about the end-user of their product.

A much-needed perspective and Steve's responses in the comments are reasoned and commendable. Thanks to you both!

This current youtube clickbait era is the worst, it's not only happening on the tech space, it's also happening on other forms of media/topics. IMO that "Meld", "Danny" and "Challenged" guy are both prime examples.

I appreciate that you didn't give this a clickbait title but at the same time I wish a lot more people would watch it... I guess you can't have both on youtube.

I still say that with the Nvidia plug fiasco, if a user can "plug it in wrong" then the fault is with the connector design and not the user. It should _not_ allow the connector to be installed in a way that allows the connection to become a problem. It should give definitive, positive feedback once it has been seated correctly. People have been connecting multi-pin connectors to GPU's and motherboards for many years now with few issues. This connector allows itself to not be fully clicked in and if I remember GN seemed to show it needed more force than "traditional" 8pin connectors to be properly seated. If not seated "just right" then the act of cable tidying could dislodge it and cause an issue. Yes if the user inserted it fully then the issue would never have happened, but I bet the users DID think they had pushed it in fully based on all the experiences they had before. So while I agree the "news" reporting on this needed tempering, I think it is wrong to say it is user error. At best it was user error from the poor feedback design of the plug/socket.

Ngl I was hoping this story would have dragged on a little bit more, so I could get ahold of a used RX 6800 for cheap lol

Great video! Too many people exploiting misinformation. Gamer Nexus being an exception.

When companies release incredibly over priced products, those products are usually put under more scrutiny. Especially in the PC world. QC is quickly becoming something companies just don't think is important. So, scrutinize more please, so that the message gets louder for those companies.

This is why I’m very particular about who I follow and listen to. You’re one of the channels I know I can go to to and get an even and reliable response to things. Thanks for the video and being transparent about an issue that has been affecting the community.

*Look at the JayzTwoCents video* Yup he didn't help at all in this situation by hastily making a video to cash in on the situation.

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said here. When I first watched this video all I could think was "I wish this wasn't so depressingly accurate." Then reading through hardware news I saw that we have another one of these happening now with the Intel i226-V ethernet controller. The first headline I saw was "PSA: Intel I226-V 2.5GbE on Raptor Lake Motherboards Has a Connection Drop Issue: No Fix Available" which simply isn't a universally accurate statement so here we are again. I wish more people would take seriously their place in the technology ecosystem and be careful about the things they say and do.

Finally someone who actually put it correctly.

When the KrisFix thing came out, I asked a simple question: "How do the drivers crack a chip?" The only answer I got was: "the drivers can draw too much voltage and burn the chip". Made as much sense to me as the idea that a years-old car would suddenly decided to hard turn left after it passed by the garage for a mild revision.

Thanks for making this video. We, as viewers, definitely need to be reminded of this from time to time so as not to get caught up in the hear-say drama.

I was jist thinking about this topic and bam your channel shows up on my feed

This seems to be a problem everywhere not just in tech but literally everywhere. It's really frustrating. But I guess people would rather be hysterical than informed or rational

This is the first time i even heard the final verdict of the splitting issue

It's still not OK for a product to possibly get caught on fire if you "plug it in wrong". That's insane.

A person Steve can say is a good watch is definitely worth watching indeed. We need more people that are more focused on giving quality info over well the mass hysteria.

I hope Jay posts a video on the 6800XT thing retracting it.

Wholeheartedly agree.

Media, in general, is a joke; so many desperately use fear and anger to gain revenue. I avoid it as it's damaging to my mental health. Really appreciate a video like this! Thank you!

Measured responses? Research and confirm first? In what kind of crazy world do those things belong? Oh ya, this one... Excellent video and great take on the shoot first, ask questions later style of a lot of those videos....

man i like this guy.. where is the standing ovation emoji at!

cough jayztwocents cough

'strikes a cord'... LOL

"THIS!" //edit: sorry, i thought the thumbnail was referring to the clickbait that ALL Tech Tubers do where they post a video and say "i didn't expect THIS" or "THIS has to stop!" instead of telling us what the heck it is about.... always just "THIS!" ...

amen! enough said ;)

I loved that show as a kid.. My fave character is Miss Information.

7900 XTX is a ROCKIN card.. Period!

It’s great to see some honest open dialogue about a grown issue which many including myself have seen in our favourite hobby space 🥵🤬! Too much misinformation or sensationalist journalism at best, ruining the truth and information we seek and trust from some of those who definitely know better! Great call out Brian 🥰💪👍😇. Great work and love your content 😇🥰!

Here's the thing....because of the last 2 years and the current crappy prices and mediocre products in PC DIY....people are highly motivated towards any negative news as it reflects their general negative sentiment. 'Everything is awful and here is the proof for this week.'

Fearmongering teaches people to take news with a grain of salt.

Jaystwocents seems to be one of the worst for fear mongering.

Finally, someone said it! Thank you for making this video.

Great video, I really appreciate you saying it out loud. The popular entertainment tier tech reporting makes so many mountains out of mole hills.

I mean, that new octopus connector looks like caca. Let’s be real here, 😂.

Hate to say it, as I know you've done some things with him in the past, but J2C is one of these people who does the clickbate videos and promotes hysteria. I like some of his content but the last week has been AMD have breaking CPUs, AMD have Driver issues etc and I just look at the title and think meh dramatic clickbate, lets wait to see what GN says. I like Jays personality, I usually like his style of videos, but hes definitely guilty of jumping on the hysteria bandwagon and causing more of it.

This is so powerful

Preach Brother!

Looks like you spoke from the heart, about time someone pointed out the direction our community is going.

gained a sub this is the type of content i like to see amazing work

What's funny is they'll say one particular company has quote" lied to the public and then two or three weeks later you'll see them praising that particular company. They just jump what on any bandwagon that'll get them to views at the moment

Well said Sir. Well said.

The whole AMD GPU die cracking thing seemed hinky from the beginning. I've been around for a long time and while I haven't always paid super close attention, I usually pay enough to hear about patterns and I had never, ever heard of a GPU die cracking until that story. Too many things just didn't add up for it to have been random.

Thank you Brian. It is refreshing to hear this

I can’t like this video enough….

*slow clap* Hear, hear!

I appreciate your take on this. It's nice to see when people don't jump on sensationalized bandwagons for tech issues. I will say personally, I was all over that 12VWHPR thing. It really is a terrible design imo and PCI SIG should go back to the drawing board and find a better solution. Sure we all want less cables in our PC's, but delivering that much power over such a small cable to me is scary. A lot of my disdain for that whole situation was born out of despising nVidia back in 2007-2011 when they were denying all blame and fault on their IGP mobile chipsets, 8000 series Geforce cards and the 9000 series Mobile discrete GPU's in the MacBooks. I was working for HP at the time so I was seeing/hearing/experience first had what the problem was. They designed a chip that experienced the exact same breakdowns that was occurring with the 360's where the chips would separate. nVidia vehemently denied any fault in the matter despite the chipsets being designed to their spec. I got berated, spoke down to, called an idiot and every word under the sun from irate and pissed off customers. If nVidia had taken responsibility, they would be owned by another company right now. At the time their value was $2-2.5Bil. At the going rate of repair when I was at HP and even know the cost for Dell and other affected SI's, $300 on average for a new board that would also fail again, to the tune of some 25+ Million affected units, you can do the math there, nVidia would have gone under. It's pretty much why I will never buy a new nVidia GPU and only buy one second hand, and even then usually only an EVGA cause of the warranty transfers. Krisfix has already done the damage and then he tried to backpeddle on his claims. Folks should have assumed something was fishy immediately when a single repair shop that most have never heard of started making claims that "All 6000's are gonna get destroyed with the latest drivers", but instead, techtubers and reddit took it and ran with it. Shame how we've gone from fact based investigative journalism to, it was on reddit and one guy said it, so it must be true journalism.

I really like the message and between the hype and leaks and outrage click videos it's got out of hand in my opinion as well. Although all through the video I was like I really want that fractal north I really really want a fractal north lol.

Yeah...but anger can be shared easier than happiness it seems to get noticed and get those adsense tokens.

More of this!

Watched the whole thing and can't really agree. Personally I'd like to know if there is a connector I could give an extra push or some temps I should have an extra eye on. Or whatever the case is. Information is good. Ignorance is bliss.

this is the first video ive seen today talking about this. its a shame that those that did "Get the clicks", are not out t here with a video also addressing this, Where are they ! The Damage has been done.

Thanks for speaking on this topic Brian.

Yep, it's really tiring

Nice video! Keep up the great work!

Even jaz2cents is to blame with this.

Awesome video! Kudos to you for speaking up on this.

All this logic and common sense is covering up your quick witted and sarcastic center! Besides that, well done sir. And that Nvidia card just look ridiculous in the case next to you!

Something about the capacitor issue of the 3000 series

Thank you, Brian! I've even unfollowed some channels because they turned into a sensational rumor channel.

Steve Rules! Linus Drools !! Go Gamers' Nexus !!

Do price hysteria next.

Excellent video, Brian!

Well said Brian

This makes me appreciate you

Thank you it needed to be said,

Very well said!

I feel there is one bigger tech youtubers who has just fell into such a slump during the GPU drought that he has now resorted to being almost a carbon copy of LTT with the anything for views attitude

THANK YOU! On exactly the same page.

Listen up, bucko! I'll ride my Outrage Pony 🔥🐎🔥 whenever and wherever I like, thank you very much! >:-(

Great video, I whole heartedly agree and I wish more people would call this kind of selfish behaviour out. Nice XFX there, cant wait to see a video on that! :)

JayzTwoCents has been doing this a lot lately.

Really liked the video. While YT favors clickbait, I think that in the long-term it's the more conservative channels that will thrive.

I knew and could tell the 6000 series issue was totally hardware, mistreated hardware. I'm not in the GPU industry, but I work in an industry that uses other types of chips, etc., and that was clearly hardware damage due to poor conditions, etc. As for 7000 series, there were several people out there with successful 7000 series systems and reviews with no issues. Some hitting well over 3GHz. Some of it is news mongers as you said, but some of the fear spread in the comments is exacerbated by fan boys of the other team or people that just like drama. You and GN are two of my favourite Tech YTers for the reasons you sated, you stay away from drama, GN does his research first. Great job guys!

While I agree with your perspecitve pretty much 100%. The issue is what you are asking for comes with age, wisdom and maturity. But its the younger generations commenting on all these video about these issues. I work with these parts in question all day, I speak with our customers buying these parts. Most 4090 buyers are older more mature customers who can afford these parts, know whats up and are not part of the fear mongering culture the tech media has to deal with. It's fanboys & kids wanting to be apart of the next big scandel & hot "on no" topic, who don't have more knowledge or experience past watching youtube videos all day.

Brian ... great news from you. I love watching your content. I really don't like these others that are just there to bash items, products and software. They are just out to bitch about everything, nothing positive.

Good points.

💯💯💯 I completely agree with you. I thought that cracked amd gpu was hilariously suspicious and yet other YT channels jumped on that story like flies to a turd.

Its hilarious that @GamersNexus of all channels comments here. They are often responsible for the hysteria. Take power usage of say 13th gen CPUs. GN will see very low power usage 99.9% of the time in gaming and normal productivity usage, actually lower than most competing CPUs. But they will report the power in synthetic all core stress tests and use that as an excuse to put flames on the thumbnails...