Hyundai Ioniq 28 kWh winter range test 

I think it's coming. Hyundai said it would get bigger range in 2018 if I remember correctly

A 50kwh battery looks most likely, that would give it a 200+mile winter range, 250+ summer.

It already is - they can't make them fast enough.

I want the 150 kW motor and 64 kWh battery out of the Niro... would be an amazing combination!

Hyundai Kona EV 64kwh battery Starts Summer 2018, cant wait to get mine.

i? zadovoljan? i ja sam u potrazi za jednim...

@@stajpi Auto je odličan. Zimi domet 160km (0 stepeni C), leti oko 240km (20+ stepeni C). Za sada 10.000 km pređenih. Nemam zamerke. Domet jeste mali, ali je više nego dovoljan da se vozi 60-90 minuta i pauzira 15-20 minuta. Nikada ne stignem da se umorim za volanom. Auto je ispunio sva očekivanja, i premašio dosta njih. U svakom slučaju razbija predrasude o električnim vozilima.

On the forums many people prefer the 28 kW version of this car for whatever reason. I think it's because buying the 28 kW used is so much better value than buying the 38 kW new and the charging curve in the 28 kW is much better. I also personally prefer both the exterior and the interior of the 28 kW (I hate touch buttons).

@@savedfaves Agree, I'm searching for 28 kwh version, I used to have i3 60ah and made long 400 km trips, so I know what I'm searching for. Ioniq's efficiency and charging speed is just incredible! But it's hard to find one here in Latvia(

@@asymmetrx Did you manage to find one in the end? I am looking for one in the baltics as well

@@cherrycarrot yes, I found one in Latvia. There are some in Lithuania too

Brian Fish I'm amazed

How many miles do you get on a full charge with AC on

To be honest, I think this is soo much better looking than the TM3, especially inside! It's also more room inside, making it a better choice for a family. You don't need SC on a daily basis..

You saw the IONIQ 5 coming.

I'm also in Quebec and this year's harsh winter has been a great test for my Ioniq, Bjorn's first Ioniq videos sold me on the idea of getting it. I get between 115km and 160km when is it colder than -12C (we've had many days this year below -25). In summer I was getting a displayed range of 240km or so, but I never pushed it much past 200km before charging.

I got it in november but even then unde temperate weather (over 5°C) I got up to 240 km.

From 0 to full, 1 hour on a BRCC charger, 4 to 5 hours on a level2 240 volts charger which you can buy and install at home.

Michel Gougeon I had the same range of well over 200km when it was above 0°C

I'd like to get the 60KW version. I hope Hyundai do it.

You can expect about 120-140 km range on motorway.

I cannot agree - it’s more. I have not seen less than 150km with my IONIQ and I am living in Germany (Autobahn) and always do 120-130km/h. In late September I did a >300km trip (Autobahn only) and charged 3 times - and the was not empty when I did it. Right now my normal range is 170km to 180km depending on temperature. The temperature has less effect than wet roads in my experience

SvenWal same by my E-Golf. Wet Roads are the real range Killer.

I'Ve also had more range than Bjorn says on highways. But I was never going faster than 100 kph. At 120 kph, if you are in ECO mode and keep a steady speed you should get more than 140 km range but less than 200 km. Obviously going uphill and against the wind will also diminish your range.

Bjørn Nyland thank you for your answer.

effemmelle people have tested this and they got around 300km last summer

SvenWal yes I know but what I mean was "at normal speed" so 85-100 km/h not a very low speed to do the record. (to be honest also 85 km/h is quite low so that in highway I normally cruise at 130-170 km/h but is good to test a normal range).

Oh - you wrote “same test” so my assumption was like in the video not much higher speed

Maybe I should a full throttle Autobahn test this summer :)

:D I'd do that test within 30mins of charging station :D

Nicoolai they won't make an update until they will improve batteries density.

damn. I was hoping the hyundai kona with 500 km range would make them improve the ioniq as well. Why do you think that is? Its not designe to carry any bigger batteries?

Probably the new Leaf 40 kWh.

Too bad for you. For the majority of Europe, -4°C is winter.

+Krisnapirasath Loges On my way.

About 160 Wh/km.

80 kph is the most common speed limit in Norway.

You're correct here. But still you don't drive 80 kph on motorway even in Norway ;)

I did a test today in soaking wet roads. Cruising speed was 100-110 km/h. Averaged about 180 Wh/km.

You will be surprised to see how many fossils drive at 80 km/h on the motorway in Norway.

180 Wh/km at 100kph is quite impressive! It would be great Bjørn, if you'd provide a brief comment on consumption figures in different scenarios, e.g. city drive (50+), country roads (80+) , motorway (110+) in your next consumption videos for better overall impression.

150 Wh/km then

I read recently that all Germany manufactures want to adopt CCS... I'm sure it won't be long before we see more compatible charge stations.

You forgot that there's two times loss. About 80-90 % for regen and another 90 % for discharging. Ioniq has a drag coefficient of 0.24. As you saw in the video, the speed only increased from 80 to 100 km/h which is not to the point where air resistance is significant compared to charging*discharging losses.

Let me give you the exact numbers, so you understand. For arguments sake, if we use your worst case numbers (80% for regen; 90% for discharging), that's 0.8*0.9 = 72% overall regen efficiency. That means you'd need 1/0.72 = 1.39x the energy, or 1.39^(1/3) the speed, which means if you were going 80 km/h, you'd need to regen at 89 km/h to get back the same energy as driving at 80 km/h. You got up to 100 km/h, which means you were wasting (100/89)^3 = 1.42x more energy than whatever your Wh/km was to cruise at 80 km/h, which was (132 Wh/km * 1.42 - 132 Wh/km) ~55 Wh/km. So by putting it in neutral for 1 minute and traveling 1.5 km, you broke the speed limit (assuming it was 80 km/h) and wasted 82.5 Wh of energy (1.5 km * 55 Wh/km). And that's a bad case scenario for overall efficiency (72%)... that those torque levels, it's more like 80-85%.

+Arsham Skrenes Speed limit was 110 km/h.

Cool. I love your videos Bjorn, and you're the reason I bought my Model S. Just shedding light on some information where I can. Cheers!

+Arsham Skrenes You left out important details. The speedometer is incorrect. 80 and 100 km/h was in reality 75 and 95 km/h. I'm on mobile phone on the airplane right now. So I have limited typing ergonomics. I done some quick math. It turns out that because the speed was so low and the rolling resistance on wet road so high, rolling resistance is the biggest component in the total force needed to maintain speed. Rolling resistance 314 N 75 km/h: 134 N (air) + 314 N (roll) = 448 N 95 km/h: 215 N (air) + 314 N (roll) = 529 N 18 % increase in force needed. You can probably figure out the rest why coasting at these speeds were in fact more efficient than regen.

Do you live in Oslo?

Bjørn Nyland, No, I live in Ski, close enough :-)

I have one, and only the Tesla 3 would tempt me away. Ioniq puts a big smile on my face.

About 1 hour.

That's obviously with a BRCC charger not with the home charger provided with the car. I don't know what type of charger is provided in Europe but in North-America the charger that comes with the car provides only 12A at 120 volts so it takes 24 hours to go from 0% to full charge. We can also buy 240 volts chargers for home use and get a full charge in 6 hours. I let my car charge overnight and I have not needed to use a fast charger yet. With the low price of clean electricity in Quebec it's very cheap to charge at home. At 14KWh / 100 km my cost is 0,90 $ per 100 km. The fuel cost for a Hyundai Elantra, which is the closest ICE equivalent, is 8,74 $ / 100 km at current gas prices in Quebec (1,25 $ / liter).

Michel Gougeon , you are living in paradise. About 6 cent/kWh. In Germany we pay around 30 cent/kWh......

I have to make a little correction about electricity costs in Quebec. Here are the exact rates for residential consumption: Fixed charge per day in the consumption period: 0,4064 $ Price of energy for energy consumption up to 33 kWh times the number of days in the consumption period (1st tier): 0,0582 $ / kWh Price of energy for the remaining energy consumption (2nd tier): 0,0892 $/ kWh In the winter, my consumption goes up a lot because I use electrical heating, so I pay a 30 to 40% of it at 2nd tier price plus the fixed daily charge. But the rest of the year, I pay all my electricity at 0,0582 $ / KWh and the fixed charge is the same whether I have an electric car or not.

Norway

i wonder because of The tex on the car it sems swedish or have you changed from from Ae to Å

You know, the World does not only contain high speed motorways?