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@user-se6ue2pv7p
@user-se6ue2pv7p 7 месяцев назад
Our 2020 Hyundai Kona electric was a Lemon. After 25,000 kms we'd had the main battery replaced due to a production fault, we had the electric drive motor replace as the bearings became noisy , we also had the reduction gearbox replaced as the gears were falling apart and filling the gearbox with metal. We also had the 12 volt aux battery replace after 12 months of where the car died half a dozen times and had to be jump started. Hyundai "tested" and told us there was nothing wrong for 12 months... The problem was they replaced the gearbox with the same faulty part number which guaranteed we'd have the same problem again. We picked the car up from Hyundai after the reduction box was replaced and drove straight to a dealer who had some new Tesla Model Ys and traded it in. Hyundai make some great looking cars but warranty failures are way up there for both EVs and ICE vehicles. 32K kms in the Y without a problem so far.
@jasoncarmichael4540
@jasoncarmichael4540 7 месяцев назад
I have a Hyundai accent, bought here in Australia, 2015 model and apart from the gas struts on the hatch back breaking and being replaced, not one other thing has gone wrong , still buzzing around 😂, I think there EVs are susceptible
@SunriseLAW
@SunriseLAW 7 месяцев назад
I purchased my first EV 2 years ago. Since then, the battery has degraded more than expected and replacing an electric bike battery is not cheap. I had better luck with cars. My 2003 Ford Focus had 203,000 miles when I gave it to a relative a month ago and she is driving it daily... including some Door Dash work. I replaced it with a pristine, clean-title 2010 Toyota Corolla with 125k miles for $5,250 found on Facebook Marketplace. I do my own repairs, it is not that hard now we have RU-vid vids.
@jimgraham6722
@jimgraham6722 7 месяцев назад
Kona was a lemon. I have an acquaintance who, to Hyundai's credit had his dud vehicle replaced with a new one.
@user-se6ue2pv7p
@user-se6ue2pv7p 7 месяцев назад
Hate mobile?? @@reginald7214
@bytemark6508
@bytemark6508 7 месяцев назад
I'm not trying to blame you, or shame you in any way, I'm actually curious. How did you decide to buy the Kona EV in the first place? Was it the price or some other financial arrangements, the brand, the appeal of the car itself? I mean, in 2020 you could have gotten a Model 3 for almost the same money and I believe more spacious than the Kona. Was Tesla not on your radar at that time? Thanks
@Paul-1123-
@Paul-1123- 6 месяцев назад
Big problem with Hyundai EVs in Canada. They do not repair batteries on their EV's and with even minor damage to the bottom protection plate, dealers are quoting over $16000 for a new battery - and Hyundai Canada is not offering anything. Basically if you run over anything on the road, they tell you to buy a new car.
@enigmaticloremaster1700
@enigmaticloremaster1700 6 месяцев назад
If it sounds too good to be true it usually is.
@Rich-ey7jv
@Rich-ey7jv 6 месяцев назад
OMG, almost a full day without a battery "break through"! Phew, I was getting worried. Can I add these batteries to my "no cost" solar panels?
@petersimms4982
@petersimms4982 7 месяцев назад
Pressurizing anything always has problems, I’ve always come across products that are supposed pressurized but inevitably end up depressurized 😮
@petergosney6433
@petergosney6433 7 месяцев назад
Sam, just in case you need a heads up, the patent process is usually about 2 years. If the Hyundai patent has already issued, then the tech is at least that old, but probably much older. A patent application as filed must contain a full and clear disclosure of the invention, so patenting something is in direct conflict with keeping it secret. The patent office, under international treaty, must keep the details confidential for 18 months after filing, but then it will be published for all to see - to allow for objections prior to grant. Whilst a working prototype is not a requirement, the patent office must be convinced it can be produced, and a working prototype is the ultimate proof.
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 7 месяцев назад
This what the Patent system is designed to do: encourage inventors to disclose inventions. Let's hope they don't pull a GM and sell the patents to a oil company; delaying the electric car another 20 years.
@fluxcapacitor
@fluxcapacitor 6 месяцев назад
This video, like the Electrek article it is directly derived from, does not in any way explain (or even mention) the problem that the pressurization system is trying to solve.
@teardowndan5364
@teardowndan5364 7 месяцев назад
"Battery pressurization" sounds a lot like battery compression which has been around for 15+ years. In liquid electrolyte cells, compression prevents battery layers from separating as the electrolyte outgasses. Keeping SSBs pressurized serves the same anti-delamination primary purpose, seems like just clamping the whole thing using all-thread with an appropriate amount of elasticity or padding at both ends should be able to do the job.
@janmessek1826
@janmessek1826 7 месяцев назад
Actually clamping is not exactly the same as pressurizing. With pressure it's more even and controllable and can allow for expansion and contraction. Pouch cells are under vacuum which results in 15 psi from atmospheric pressure on the outside unless they gas then it does not work so well.
@teardowndan5364
@teardowndan5364 6 месяцев назад
@@janmessek1826 Clamping does allow for expansion if you choose bolts with an appropriate Young's modulus / stretch and don't mind the force going up by some amount when cells expand. Or you can have compressible pads to achieve the same result using stiffer bolts. If the force is absolutely critical, which I doubt it is, you can use hydraulic tensioners instead of plain nuts. Making battery packs into pressure vessels doesn't sound like a particularly good idea to me.
@Whyunounderstand
@Whyunounderstand 7 месяцев назад
Ev people keep saying less moving parts less problems. But all I'm hearing is how much complexity is evolved in these battery system if something goes wrong who the hell will know how to fix it. These batteries have a lot of complexity.
@richardhardin9184
@richardhardin9184 7 месяцев назад
For the simple minded.
@Ryan-ff2db
@Ryan-ff2db 7 месяцев назад
Regardless of the complexity of a battery, EV's without any doubt, contain far less moving parts. The electric drive train contains on average about 20 moving parts vs. more than 2,000 for an ICE vehicle. There is almost nothing under the hood of most ev's, which is why most have frunks.
@Ryan-ff2db
@Ryan-ff2db 7 месяцев назад
@@richardhardin9184 You can easily look up the data yourself but the maintenance and upkeep on EV's are significantly less than an ICE vehicle. There's sites like caredge that keep track of maintenance data on all major brands of vehicles. The only vehicles that are relatively close are cheaper Toyotas like the corolla but they're still more costly then say a Tesla.
@mnhsty
@mnhsty 7 месяцев назад
@@Ryan-ff2db Fewer moving parts unless you count the electrons.
@gregdean8441
@gregdean8441 7 месяцев назад
​@@Ryan-ff2db and how many individual cells are in that battery every one a failure point And risk of fire these little facts matter !
@takenoshortcuts
@takenoshortcuts 7 месяцев назад
Go Aptera! - Lightweight EV, fast, the most aero dynamic, and covered in solar panels. Only Aptera makes the Cybertruck look like the history chanel.
@rogerfroud300
@rogerfroud300 6 месяцев назад
The difference is that the Cybertruck is a real production item, not a student project.
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 6 месяцев назад
​@@rogerfroud300hubris
@takenoshortcuts
@takenoshortcuts 6 месяцев назад
​@rogerfroud300 you are factually incorrect
@2kMario
@2kMario 6 месяцев назад
To reach 1000km range for example Hyundai Kona needs at least 120kWh battery WLTP or real life usage 150kWh battery
@neilashworth9302
@neilashworth9302 7 месяцев назад
I had a Kona not happy . Yes it is great America has a battery recycle plant why don’t Australia have one
@smferreiro2610
@smferreiro2610 7 месяцев назад
This looks interesting! I've been working around that concept. May you have a link to the patent document?
@MamboB
@MamboB 6 месяцев назад
It does not matter who gets the best batteries first, cause they each will reverse engineer each other’s products to do the same thing but in a slightly different method to bypass patents
@eugeniustheodidactus8890
@eugeniustheodidactus8890 7 месяцев назад
*What could possibly go wrong with a **_pressurized battery?_* Lol.
@KINGITSOL
@KINGITSOL 7 месяцев назад
Might cause a singularity?
@Jabatu1
@Jabatu1 7 месяцев назад
I wonder if it will work as good as the magic carburetor that was talked about in the 1960s. You know, the one that said when attached gets 975 per gallon, but the evil oil companies bought up the patent.
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 7 месяцев назад
Patents only last 20 years. The more recent patents I complain about (also expired at this point) are the NIMH battery patents used to delay the electric car by 20 years. They kyoto protocol was signed way back in 1997, Why did it take Tesla until 2008 to come out with the roadster? This story is described (in part) in the "Patent encumbrance of large automotive NiMH batteries" article in Wikipedia. Despite opposing the California Zero emission mandate near the end of the last century: GM developed a pretty good electric car, the EV-1. It had enough range for typical city trips. It was not sold, but leased to customers. After the Zero emission mandate was defeated: GM recalled the EVs and crushed them. Much like happened to streetcars nearly a century earlier. But just crushing the Electric car was not enough. They needed to salt the Earth so to speak. So GM sold the NiMH battery patents to Texaco, and oil company. Patents have a particular property. Ostensibly they are designed to encourage innovation by encouraging the disclosure of technologies. But patent holders are NOT required to license a patent. Texaco was later purchased by Chevron. Chevron then sued Panasonic, the battery supplier for the Toyota RAV4 EV. Toyota at the time had a lot of experience with NiMH batteries: having used them in their Prius hybrids. But I guess not requiring fuel was a step too far for the oil company. Toyota has been focusing in Hydrogen fuel cells ever since. I am convinced that the Tesla battery design: with hundreds of relatively volatile 18650 cells, commonly used in laptops at the time, was actually a patent work-around. Battery suppliers can't get sued for making a commodity product! Too bad that EVs will now forever be associated with car fires now though. There are safer battery chemistries.
@oggyoggy1299
@oggyoggy1299 7 месяцев назад
And drawing electricity directly from the air just by using a couple of wires, powering anything.
@joebush1663
@joebush1663 6 месяцев назад
Conspiracy theories are nothing new that's for sure.
@antonnym214
@antonnym214 7 месяцев назад
Good reporting, Sam. I guess we've heard solid state has been coming for so long, now we're ready to see it, at least in prototype.
@hoffinger
@hoffinger 6 месяцев назад
They have been around for a while. They are just to expensive to manufacture.
@clivelockwood3236
@clivelockwood3236 6 месяцев назад
Sounds good if it works, don't like the sound of under pressure, can't help thinking we are going down the wrong road with battery power vehicles, we should have been developing cleaner fuels for existing cars.
@medman36
@medman36 7 месяцев назад
Using pressure means a whole can of worms with regard effects of temperature, eapecially extremes of heat and cold. Will the cold be a double whammy of performance due to lower chemical and pressure losses at lower temperatures? Will it be and added liability in a possible explosion at extremee high temperatures?
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 7 месяцев назад
Another comment (@jimgraham6722) said the operating temperature of similar batteries was "between 80C and 120C". What you consider hot and what the battery considers hot may be two different things. Such a high temperature does bring into question cold weather performance though.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 7 месяцев назад
The thing is actively pressurised so the pressure is maintained at optimum whenever the system is in use.
@citris1
@citris1 6 месяцев назад
As a consumer I'm not interested in a 1000 mile battery. Driving at 60 mph it would take me 16 hours to run down the battery. I don't want to sit in a car seat for that long without a break. A 300 mile battery would be plenty. The car could have a smaller battery and would be cheaper and lighter.
@user-ni6le7hk9y
@user-ni6le7hk9y 7 месяцев назад
THE ELECTRIC VIKING, Pro electric please look at what we have Now. NOT THE FUTURE.'PLEASE'.
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 6 месяцев назад
It would make more sense to me, if the cells were cylindrical, rather than prismatic. It's much easier to contain pressure in a tube, than in a box.
@taystew
@taystew 7 месяцев назад
sounds like they are just skating by someone elses patent (water cooled battery perhaps) and the element of pressure is unique enough to let them do water cooling a little differently without paying royalties
@jimgraham6722
@jimgraham6722 7 месяцев назад
The only solid state batteries I know of currently deployed successfully (in heavy traction applications) run hot, between 80C and 120C. Pressurised cooling is needed to prevent the system from boiling. Deployed in occasional use light transport, just as you used to have to warm up the engine before driving off, you will now have to warm up the battery. For application in light vehicles, I think SSBs more of a problem than they solve.
@WANDERER0070
@WANDERER0070 7 месяцев назад
Yoshino portable power unit has SST batts,,when punctured nothing happ3ns very safe
@jimgraham6722
@jimgraham6722 7 месяцев назад
@@WANDERER0070 It's interesting technology and seems to have an edge in power out and recharge time. However, there is very little analysis and review. I suspect until more is known most will stick with established LiFePO based products like Bluetti that seem to have very similar performance and a known track record.
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 7 месяцев назад
Especially since most new EVs have ranges FAR exceeding typical commutes. The electric car was ready to handle typical commutes 20 years ago with NiMH batteries (about half the density of Lithium-ion).
@jimgraham6722
@jimgraham6722 7 месяцев назад
@@WANDERER0070 Interesting tech. I understand these are NMC batteries with higher power density than the LiFePO but are a good deal more expensive and not as good on safety and longevity. NMC is the formulation that generates oxygen when it overheats and may not be accepta be le in some situations. That said it is clearly going to be advantageous in some circumstances. But we will need to see if it gains wide acceptance.
@2335467
@2335467 7 месяцев назад
yeah yeah I always hear about extended range.
@dcartier1692
@dcartier1692 6 месяцев назад
“If” you can double the energy density and halve the charging time, I would rather see a much lighter (i.e., better handling) 500km range EV than a heavy 1000 km version.
@RonaldRenner-pr7zd
@RonaldRenner-pr7zd 7 месяцев назад
What the heck is a paytent??
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 7 месяцев назад
Opposite of freetent.
@WANDERER0070
@WANDERER0070 7 месяцев назад
Australian for patent,, also bia is beer 😊
@wtfgogu
@wtfgogu 6 месяцев назад
do you post any sources to your claims or is this a 'trust me bro' channel ?
@atlantabob9544
@atlantabob9544 7 месяцев назад
Fluid and solid state?
@tuffitout2568
@tuffitout2568 7 месяцев назад
Have you noticed that The Viking is getting far beyond being simply a cheerleader for EV's...to the fantastically bizarre. Just say'n...
@user-se6ue2pv7p
@user-se6ue2pv7p 7 месяцев назад
Evidence or "just sayin"?
@justinr9753
@justinr9753 7 месяцев назад
He doesn't own one
@gregdean8441
@gregdean8441 7 месяцев назад
Just a guy with 1 shirt white in colour!
@mitchelinman8968
@mitchelinman8968 7 месяцев назад
he’s in the ev cult
@marcionphilologos5367
@marcionphilologos5367 7 месяцев назад
To me it seems that 2 things are going on here: 1. the development of a solid state LFP battery 2. the use of a strongly improved pressured cooling system (Dutch researchers have also shown that with improved cooling higher charging rates and higher overall capacity and functionality of batteries can be reached). YET, I DOUBT THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY CAN BE PATENTED......
@billkorea6311
@billkorea6311 6 месяцев назад
Could it be that solid-state batteries require pressure (QS and other batteries certainly do) and cooling, and Hyundai has decided to combine both functions?
@busetgadapet
@busetgadapet 7 месяцев назад
$20,000 battery replacement here I come again
@carlsapartments8931
@carlsapartments8931 7 месяцев назад
Toyota's is very secret, very very secret. They will never reveal their secret.... ever!
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 7 месяцев назад
Tell no one…
@jonjo6886
@jonjo6886 6 месяцев назад
There's just overwhelming evidence that most vehicle batteries are dangerous. Fires are intense and uncontrollable. Just imagine a multi storey parking facility full of electric vehicles. You keep mentioning that Toyota has a "mythical" solid state battery. I think they must be committed as a result of a merger with Idemitsu Kosan, a company geared to supplying sulfide. When you look at lithium sulphur battery it has possibilities, the theoretical capacity is five times that of current batteries. It has big problems too, I imagine that they are able to produce a prototype li-s battery that is satisfactory but said battery is too difficult and expensive to put into production.
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 7 месяцев назад
If Hyundai can get the likes of SK Innovation or even LG Energy to manufacture this battery on a large scale, the Hyundai/Kia group could become a huge darkhorse winner in the EV competition.
@stanleytolle416
@stanleytolle416 6 месяцев назад
So far only hipe. At least we got a patent here. I would say it's for real when things like cellphones have these batteries. Small high end applications first. When these things show up it's fir real.
@SuperMassman
@SuperMassman 7 месяцев назад
☝️🤡,,, EXCEPT THEY DON'T HAVE A WORKING PROTOTYPE TO SHOW ANYONE. 🤣,, the patent is a concept of something that may or may not be able to be built some time in the far future... You left that part out
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 7 месяцев назад
You can get a patent for any crazy thing you dream up. If somebody else gets it to work, you can charge them royalties.
@cbcdesign001
@cbcdesign001 6 месяцев назад
@@jamesvandamme7786 That's certainly the way the very messed up American patent system seems to work, its a badly broken system.
@BillLaBrie
@BillLaBrie 6 месяцев назад
Hyundai? Yeah….I’m not so sure about this….
@kona_moon6055
@kona_moon6055 7 месяцев назад
Where is the patented windshield wiper from Tesla? Should have built Cybertruck with that design.
@malcolmrickarby2313
@malcolmrickarby2313 7 месяцев назад
The lasers?
@web_physics
@web_physics 7 месяцев назад
It seems like if we keep batteries like that may cause problems when the vehicle's in motion and have shakes rather we can keep batteries in a place where fuel tank kept before 😮😮😮😊😮
@antonnym214
@antonnym214 7 месяцев назад
So far, all solid state batteries use a glass electrolyte. Problem with glass is that it is brittle. You put brittle in a car, and it shatters the first time the car flexes at all, as it goes down the road or leaves the driveway. I think other technologies will be available long before SSB; for example M.I.T.'s TAQ battery tech which they have licensed to Lamborghini. All good wishes.
@ChasL704
@ChasL704 7 месяцев назад
Maybe our American university can give it to China so they can bring it to market. Like they did with A123 development. You know, give our competition a leg up.
@jimgraham6722
@jimgraham6722 7 месяцев назад
Agree fatigue and cracking likely to be a big problem with these rigid batts. Existing lithium batteries are polymers or polymer like. They can flex and bend slightly when torqued and put under stress and strain without taking any damage. This means they can be structural, part of the vehicle's 'under chassis' thus saving a lot of weight. It is just possible SSBs might find a place in apps like like heavy vehicles (as replaceable batteries), stationery and marine applications, but somehow I can't see them making inroads into light vehicles. Tesla seems totally unimpressed with potential for SSBs in TM3, TMY, Cybertruck etc
@simontillson482
@simontillson482 7 месяцев назад
I think you’re forgetting just how thin the electrolyte layer is. For solid state, since the conductivity is way lower than liquid electrolytes, they need to be much thinner. At 5 micrometers or so, which is what’s required, it’s so thin that it becomes extremely flexible. Cracking is not an issue. Just think about glass fiber optics - the thinnest ones are about 50 micrometers, and they’re extremely flexible and resilient.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 6 месяцев назад
Nonsense. If something brittle is never stressed to aboveits elastic limit it will not break. Batteries sitting in some sort of enclosure are not mechanically stressed.
@user-it7lf7kk8m
@user-it7lf7kk8m 6 месяцев назад
Fibre optics are rarely glass these days, they are usually a polymer Batteries don't just sit in a box. They are subject to a lot of shock and vibration in a car.
@PockyFiend
@PockyFiend 6 месяцев назад
So let's see this in a real EV then.
@nyanbrox5418
@nyanbrox5418 6 месяцев назад
Hyundai may have secret battery tech, but they still need to make a good car Edit: or they will just be selling batteries to superior chinese evs and Tesla, cost is a big part of it That being said, if this battery works, that's great
@decimal1815
@decimal1815 6 месяцев назад
The European and American EV markets will be huge soon because they are getting closer to the 2035 date when new ICE cars will be banned. China market is also huge but it may plateau soon when most buyers who can afford an EV already own one. Most of the PRC population will never be able to afford one, or at least will not be able to own a parking space to keep one.
@trevorevans7101
@trevorevans7101 6 месяцев назад
Sounds promising
@ytj22
@ytj22 7 месяцев назад
Toyota not meeting predictions on their solid state battery delivery comes just short of this joker not meeting his predictions on Toyota going out of business. Unless by going out of business he meant "more sales and profit than ever in the history of the company". In that case he'd be 100% correct 👍
@user-se6ue2pv7p
@user-se6ue2pv7p 7 месяцев назад
Toyota are the most indebted car maker in the world. The are running a fine line between between success and failure by putting all their eggs in the Hydrogen fuel cell basket.
@ytj22
@ytj22 7 месяцев назад
@user-se6ue2pv7p They are also the most profitable car maker in the world by a good margin. Do you know who the second most indebted car maker is? Volkswagen ( see a trend here?) How in God's green earth do you come to the conclusion that Toyota put all of their eggs in the hydrogen fuel cell basket? In addition, much like most other auto manufacturers (BMW, Hyundai, Stellantis et al) it is important to have some exposure to hydrogen fuel cell.
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 7 месяцев назад
@@ytj22 HFC for cars is a dead end. Toyota is wasting too much money on hybrids and ICE when they should be trying to catch up with the rest of the industry. 90% of the market in the USA is gas powered, but that will be 80% next year, and so on. The handwriting is on the wall, and Toyota's Chinese sales are declining terribly.
@justinr9753
@justinr9753 7 месяцев назад
​@@user-se6ue2pv7p debt isn't necessarily bad, Ford makes half their profit off their debt.
@ytj22
@ytj22 7 месяцев назад
@jamesvandamme7786 So then so far, Toyota has taken the correct approach by my analysis of your fancy declining scale. The story you tell about Toyota is the EXACT same one that's been told for the past decade and yet the opposite keeps happening. Somehow you know better I suppose. I'm puzzled by why people are so disappointed when a company gets it right? My guess is that Toyota is a leader in battery development already. They have a lot of cars on the road with batteries (FYI). Also FYI, any company that isn't a Chinese company will have a tough time in China.
@mihailprokopenko6174
@mihailprokopenko6174 6 месяцев назад
How do they patent it, wasn't it invented by Tesla?
@billyjean2905
@billyjean2905 7 месяцев назад
SSD has so long way to go yet until it puts into production. I suppose it'd be sooner that traditional ncm batteries get stable enough than SSD gets put into production in lower price.
@WANDERER0070
@WANDERER0070 7 месяцев назад
Bc it cost way more then lfp
@xaionik
@xaionik 7 месяцев назад
A patent registration is a good thing. This means someone can technically reproduce and verify their work.
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 7 месяцев назад
Cheers mate
@jamesgeorge4874
@jamesgeorge4874 6 месяцев назад
The "H" in Hyundai is silent, it is pronounced (Yee) uhn-die , actually. No criticism. The thumbnail looks like a space station.
@guylancaster2055
@guylancaster2055 6 месяцев назад
is it less of an ecological disaster than the current ev's/batteries?
@robbieb8274
@robbieb8274 7 месяцев назад
Quantumscape didn't hit the milestones vw set...
@user-jh6vt8vx4v
@user-jh6vt8vx4v 7 месяцев назад
"your move, Toyota!"
@sambira
@sambira 7 месяцев назад
Toyota has been saying they've had a solid state battery for decades. Don't hold your breathe waiting.
@hanswitvliet8188
@hanswitvliet8188 6 месяцев назад
Toyota is ahead of time. At least, they even claimed their wheels were ahead of their EV… 🤣
@foam27
@foam27 6 месяцев назад
They need to work on the batteries they are selling now so coolant's not leaking into them and screwing customers over 😄
@linuxxr
@linuxxr 6 месяцев назад
the king of plastic will make a disposable nano-particle embedded plastic battery in the near future. lighter,smaller,better,faster,cheaper yup
@nevco8774
@nevco8774 7 месяцев назад
Just days ago you had a video about Hyundai losing a billion by selling own factory in China to BYD. I believe it's time each western automanufacturers to leave China, find own niche elsewhere. Hyundai has only 2 problems with EVs sold in North America: low production volumes, unflexible high price. Maybe they will increase production with new batteries?
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 7 месяцев назад
They have a 3rd problem: no repair option when those expensive batteries get some minor road damage. Several people in Canada have been quoted $56,000 CAD to replace traction batteries in a car that does not even cost that much new!
@insylogo
@insylogo 7 месяцев назад
hyun-dai not hyun-day
@Mr11ESSE111
@Mr11ESSE111 6 месяцев назад
Hyundai batteries costs more then vehicle
@mrsaipros338
@mrsaipros338 7 месяцев назад
Wild, so now they will explode like C4 before going into thermal runaway & burning for days. Exciting stuff. Would have worked awesome for the Casino Film finale!
@viveksamrat5864
@viveksamrat5864 7 месяцев назад
All ev car makers are at same footing. If companies will charge high price and try to sell brand then its failure of that company in ev market. So far ev are full of problems. Why are ev sold so expensive . Which car company come to mass without brand but with product will make profit and brand for future. Technology for all should be aim that is winning rule.
@takenoshortcuts
@takenoshortcuts 7 месяцев назад
Nice find! Toyota is still blowing ice
@peterkoe5044
@peterkoe5044 7 месяцев назад
What BUNK ! Hyun / Kia are now famous for : 1. Not honoring their battery warranties. 2. Charging more than the cars original purchase price for a battery replacement caused fron small dents in the protective cases. 3.Their ICE cars are now famous for being stolen by thugs. Many insurance companies wontceven cover them. 4. Their EV s are problematic. Crappy 12 volt systems that are prone to fail. What does Hyundai do ? Blame the owners for " aftermarket gadgets. Godd luck mother Fers in buying that crap....... Oh I forgot , They have some of the worst sticker premiums and markups. Their dealers are sharks.
@dikkybee4003
@dikkybee4003 6 месяцев назад
You must be in America as in Australia none have been stolen as our government has laws in place that make it mandatory that all new cars, all brands, have engine immobilisers installed. Sux to be you.
@cspark9186
@cspark9186 7 месяцев назад
Unless it's self charging, forget it. No one has a power grid large enough to charge the mass numbers of Evs to make the government happy.
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 7 месяцев назад
I pay more for grid connection than electricity in Alberta. Our grid has been over-built in part because oil sands extraction is so intensive. But all the oil and forestry companies have built their own power plants to avoid grid usage fees. This does not even get into the fact that EVs and water heaters are inherently load-shedable. They have this huge reservoir for storing energy. So during the supper hour they can pause charging until demand tapers off later in the evening. If you are parroting Chase from Edison Motors: his numbers are off by an order of magnitude because he was mixing W with Wh.
@cbcdesign001
@cbcdesign001 6 месяцев назад
I cannot speak for other countries but in the UK the national grid are not remotely concerned about their ability to support EVs on mass.
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 7 месяцев назад
Evening mate
@WarriorChampion47
@WarriorChampion47 7 месяцев назад
Sounds expensive
@MatrixJockey
@MatrixJockey 7 месяцев назад
if it is it'll be used in the next Genesis EV lineup
@mperlatti
@mperlatti 7 месяцев назад
Just the name makes me not want one
@RichardPeterShon
@RichardPeterShon 7 месяцев назад
Lol not so secret anymore now
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 7 месяцев назад
Hyundai 👍
@mitchelinman8968
@mitchelinman8968 7 месяцев назад
funny how automakers are walking back the Ev push and you bring up none of the counter points. Especially the total co2 emissions over the life of a vehicle gotta drive that tesla much longer to be carbon neutral assuming you don’t have to replace the battery not mentioning where the electricity comes from for these evs. 15 years too early internal combustion will be around for a long time to come.
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 7 месяцев назад
EV's have been a mature technology since the 1920's. Electric steetcars and busses with overhead wires are considered "old fashioned" now. Edison Motors (also on RU-vid) was able to custom build an electric truck in only 1 year. The only part they needed to get custom made in China was the motor-drive axle assembly.
@mitchelinman8968
@mitchelinman8968 6 месяцев назад
@@jamesphillips2285 swing and a miss. Ev battery technology is the clear issue I was referring to and the total emissions compared to a ice vehicle. That’s very disingenuous and you don’t know what Edison is doing at all. What Edison is doing makes sense using diesel hybrid technology maximizing efficiency bridging the gap to when power density in batteries is much closer to fossil fuels and a grid that could support those huge loads for those batteries . I don’t think this clown will talk about Edison because it goes against the green cult he is apart of I think he even mocked the idea of more advanced fossil fuel hybrid vehicles bridging the time for battery technology to catch up.
@user-lz8mi4dd2p
@user-lz8mi4dd2p 7 месяцев назад
Even Tesla buy Chinese battery 😀
@truecolors5413
@truecolors5413 7 месяцев назад
A Battery like this I wouldn't rush to Buy it , but I would let the Guinea Pigs do it and will see in 7 years what happens. I wouldnt touch a Tesla after watching what the owners go through with Elons cars.
@WANDERER0070
@WANDERER0070 7 месяцев назад
Bc youre too poor to buy it eh 😂
@truecolors5413
@truecolors5413 7 месяцев назад
​​​@@WANDERER0070it's expensive is Just 1 of countless reasons. Example Tesla employees Spied on people using their cameras. Cost of issuance , tracks how you drive , Lowwww mileage even though Elon lied and said it has more , slow charging , charge alot to charge it up , to fix cost a lot , replace battery cost alot etc etc etc. Long list. It's a pile of garbage on wheels.
@truecolors5413
@truecolors5413 7 месяцев назад
​@@WANDERER0070most I would pay for it $8000 dollars
@chillfluencer
@chillfluencer 7 месяцев назад
Sounds like a shit idea.
@audiquagaming
@audiquagaming 7 месяцев назад
Hyundai is trash just a wanna be Toyota brand with shit reliability
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