I Absolutely LOVE This Game | Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Playthrough(FINALE) 

honestly I just think it's what a lot of people feel abotu the ending. I thought it was a convoluted mess

@@derp3697 doesn't excuse redard attitudes like in his chat

@@derp3697 it's fair to be confused but many in chat acted like it was trash. That's still a minority opinion, yet many in his chat. Either ppl therr just likes to be toxic or the majority of his fans are puristic to an unhealthy point. Either way, seeing that type of behavior daily would def mess my mind if i was Caleb.

@@juliansanchezharris5773 it’s only confusing for a few minutes. It really is overdone trash. And that’s not a minority opinion, everyone who has done a review on it has shitted on it. I don’t know a single person irl who didn’t hate it. Not a single one.

@@derp3697 then expand your friend circle. I smell echochamber.

“What about our adventure?” 💔

This scene got me crying when I played. Goddamn

​@@komrademosesI hadn't gotten upset like that since Arthur Morgan's death in Red Dead Redemption 2.

Thought that was sadder than the ending!

@dannyb9209 The ending, in general, was a cluster F! The only way I can explain it is that there are two timelines happening concurrently at the same time, and Cloud is the only one who is experiencing both timelines at the same time. Which is why he can still see an alternate Aerith who is still alive, while the other characters can not.

Same. I love the game. absolute masterpiece. But I CANNOT get behind the ending.

I agree. And honestly it is Matrix Reloaded all over again, "Neo use magic therefofre bad" People just completely misunderstand things and can`t deal with something being complex/mysterious/ambigous

Low IQ's to be precise 🤣

it is a vomitory if epic proportions.

LOL was about to say the same thing when i got 75% through, like omg ruined, NOMRUA! uninstall. chat needs to touch grass, it all comes together in the end, like chill the fuk out. No we alreayd know this isnt a 1 for 1 re release of the OG, surprise, we learned that on day 1.....

They are all childish trolls. From the comments on the videos it's abundantly clear that most people really dislike his chat and I wonder how he even plays with them in the background. Caleb is way better than them. Usually chat and streamer are exactly the same but I respect caleb way more than his stupid ass chat.

yeah I noticed that as well it's incredible how whiny so many were lol

@@LinusKarlssonMusic sad reality of social media as these days so many people just love to whine and complain about everything. its a fecking game and fantasy game at that not everything has to make sense, some people just cant enjoy cool things things like the zack cloud team up stuff. im just happy that we got more ff7 after all these long years.

@@dalymufc yeah haha and tbh it's totally fair to not agree with what is shown or feel like it's dumb or whatever it's just the super negative tone calling the writers hacks and whatever that is a bit exhausting.

They trying to plant thoughts in caleb's head so he will hate the game. These kids just don't want others to enjoy something. They also soft spoiling all over the place

@@dalymufcHere we go again, blaming social media. If you think society wasn’t this entitled and whiny pre 2003-04 when social platforms really started to take off then you are a fool. Social media, if anything exposes just how toxic people have always have been with the ability to effortlessly share their thoughts in mere seconds and with a press of a button.

They wanted a boring 100% 1to1 remake. That's basically it.

pretty sure its a meme

@@cowan1234 A bad one. But yeah it is. It's bad for people who don't know it's a meme though, they leave thinking Nomura did infact write it.

@@cowan1234 A lot of people meme about it, but a lot of people just don't know any better. Or Nomura lives rent free in their heads lol.

@JorgeM270 maybe. I figured at least in Calebs chat people would know Nomura didnt write it

​@@cowan1234it is not meme people genuinely hate that guy

Yes its too " intelligent" for the gaming community that prefers mindless Tom and Jerry like Violence. To me the ending was great and logical

The Sephiroth that we the players are fighting at the end of these games is Advent the Children Sephiroth, the one who lost. He's trying to create a scenario and timeline where he wins. It's not complicated.

There’s definitely criticisms to have with the ending of Rebirth. Sure you could say “all of it will be fixed in part 3” but again till that happens people are allowed to dislike it.

Despite knowing there’s a third game, the ending of Rebirth is still extremely convoluted and fast-paced. The predominant emotion that most people will feel when the credits roll is confusion, so they are completely valid in criticising it.

​@@torchlight1785Like what? It's clear as day what's going on, they literally explain it when cloud and fake Sephiroth are flying through the timelines.

@@varianngaming9403lol you believe in the words of a villain when they say different timelines?

​@@xerpp2 Nah I don't think that the devs would use the multiverse as a fake out. In the Temple of the Ancients, the Cetra voice says that the "destroyer of worlds" will summon meteor. Sephiroth also later says that the black materia is "a key that unlocks its true counterpart hidden between worlds" It's genuine and will be further explained in Part 3.

Same here!! 🥲

For real. Same here too! This part with child Aerith hit me the most.

I hadn't felt sad over a game since Red Dead Redemption 2.

I agree. Everyone mad at the ending needs to go watch it again. It's actually masterfully put together and leaves a lot of questions and great story telling for part three. But I'd bet a large amount of people who react negatively to it didn't play through the game or give it any critical thinking. Which is fine if you don't want too, but to spam that this ending is bad is very shortsighted. But to each their own I guess. Part 3 gonna be a wild ride.

I loved it too, it takes a while to set in though

​@@MeltererExactly man. The ending isn't how haters make it to be if you've taken your time with the ending. It sets a lot of question marks for part 3 as well as Cloud's mental state, plus the feeling of emptiness it gives you in the ending. Sure I understand people that are mad at the Aerith's scene and the entire sequence not being the way they wanted it to be, but I believe it's done for a reason and that we'll get the actual scene in Part 3. Because let's be honest, we've seen Cloud blocking out his speech in Rebirth, as well as glimpses of the lake scene in Remake's ending, so eventually it's all gonna come around. Right now, the focus of the ending was Cloud, how he doesn't have a Limit Break while everyone's mad to the point where they're just ready to go all out from the starting of the Jenova Fight. The Sephiroth Reborn fight was something I'd say was perfect but it didn't belong here right now. Sephiroth isn't always meant to be the Final Boss because the players are getting too used to him and this is before the Northern Crater. Other than that, saying Nomura ruined it is just childish. The Remake series is legit one of the best Final Fantasies and games as a whole I've played in my life

ikr

Fr so much hate for no reason lol just enjoy the game. If you don’t then just play one of the other millions of games😂 no need to constantly talk shit about things people love if your gripes are so minor. This game isn’t perfect but it’s just what I needed in every way. Can’t wait for part 3

Yep, the ending is all over the place but if youre able to put it together you'll understand it. Obviously most of his chat are about 10 years old

His chat just seems super toxic af and super immature during some scenes man so unnecessary lol

Bunch of edgy 12 year olds

he said he hated the ending lmao

@@derp3697 There are people who just love to get into battle without knowing the story, also people that wanted to connect the 1997 plot to the current game. The game isn't REMASTERED, its a REMAKE. People just don't understand about the word remake, that just means its made from the ground up including its story plot, the devs can adopt a plot from 1997 but they've included a twist because they can't call it a new game for nothing. Since this is a new game, you gotta understand it again from the ground up. Its not like you're going to know it right away because of the adopted plots from the OG. Just like in 1997, you just have to understand its plot since you don't know what's going to happen in the game.

@@xxH4rdC0R3xx lmao, it has nothing to do with that. The same thing happened in this game that happened in the OG , only the story is being told in a much dumber less emotional way. Square Enix doesn’t know how to tell a good story anymore and that’s why it will never be on top

@@derp3697 You want more info about it, then watch the interview on behind the scenes on square enix's channel

@@derp3697 Based on your comments in video's comment section you definitely come across as incredibly cynical and pessimistic. This game is written by Nojima, who wrote the OG, and is produced by Kitase who directed the original. To say they don't know how to tell a good story is both wrong and a ridiculous statement. People loved FFXVI's story as well as this Remake/Rebirth series... Square is definitely doing things right as of late. That's not subjective, the ratings for both games show it, overwhelmingly positive across the board in both public and critic reviews. People are loving these games, yet a minority online bubble which you seem to be a part of are incapable of appreciating the brilliant storytelling this game is offering. No one criticizing this game's plot could conjure up anything remotely as impressive as Nojima and his team have done. The ending was phenomenal, they couldn't have ended this game in a better way. Unfortunately people like yourself and those in Caleb's chat are unable to see through their clouded eyes, as Sephiroth says so aptly.

The problem is Square Enix took a risk the moment they decided to go ahead with a remake to begin with. Once that happened, someone had to decide the answer to two basic questions: Why play a game that's nothing more than a rehash of the original? and Will we lose the FF7 OG fanbase if we decide to change the ending? But, considering all the twists and turns that have been sprinkled in, despite people being strongly of the opinion that "Aerith is dead....Period!", I'm of the opinion that there's going to be more nuance to the third chapter of the story.

Most fans are on board with the changes, but it's a bit of revisionism when people say "it would've been boring'. First, a lot of people who played this were entirely new to FF7. Second, all the clamour for a remake for years was self evidently predicated on the idea it was going to be an adaptation of the source material; that's why it was for a remake, not a sequel. How many people went into chapter 17 of Remake saying "Gee, this is boring. This needs multiverses", or got the game expecting a huge deviation from the original's core story, realistically? Also '100% on board with the changes' and 'OG purist mad it isn't shot for shot the same' aren't the only two opinions that exist; why do peoples' feelings about stuff have to be crammed into simple, inaccurate binaries?

@@fabesey2016 I'll agree that I think the multieverse / timeline element probably made it a little more complicated than it needed to be. I know I'm kind of fed up with multiverses after the Marvel Cinematic Universe got run into the ground. But, I think they did this in a fresh enough way that it's still easy enough to follow as long as you can catch certain things.

@@renegade637 The ability to follow it isn't my issue with it. There's a bunch of problems I have, but the main one is that Remake *immediately* does the two stupidest things you can possibly do with multiverses; A. Bring back dead characters B. Make the story *about* it rather than it just being a framing device. Rebirth then doubles down on this at the worst possible point in the story that it could, and establishes travel between worlds, alternate versions of characters fixing plot problems, AND establishes the alternate versions are in fact the *same* characters with their memories transferred over in some kind of quantum immortality. A is stupid because it establishes the precedent of the multiverse having limitless potential as a magic wand to fix any plot problem and undo anything bad that happens to the characters. Cause and effect are replaced by "I wanna", zero stakes. It doesn't even matter if it isn't used in a given situation, because I know it could be and that the writers are very willing to do so. B is stupid because in making it about the plot device, it both takes the focus off the characters and makes the author write their way into quicksand trying to explain it and keep it all straight, as the script gets bogged down in clunky exposition dumps that feel out of character. Which is exactly what happens in the last 2 chapters of both games, to Aerith and Red in Remake, and Sephiroth in Rebirth.

@@fabesey2016 its too intelligent for the gaming community, it really is that simple, most prefer tom and jerry like violence

Well, there already is a timeline where Aerith survived. That much is certain.

We don't need more confusing timeline bs lmao

Seeking validation more like. This always happens with the mystery box gimmick; there's details that are deliberately vague to get people to speculate, then folk like you call people stupid and tell them to "pay attention" for not reading your mind for your personal theory that explains it, despite there being more than one plausible explanation for parts of it *by design*, and because you assume criticism only amounts to understanding the process of events or that people are gonna write a dissertation every time they make fun of it.

LOL really not that deep bruh@@fabesey2016

@@fabesey2016 They don't really need to play this game if that's the case, really the devs have high IQ for normal gamers to understand. People wanted the original plot yet this game is very new hence its called a RE:MAKE than a RE:MASTER. Some people really wanted to connect all the story plots from the 1997 but it won't happen since this isn't a remastered game. Wonder what the third game will be called since the second is Rebirth, it could be Rebuild or Re:verse. This is just a thought, they might be going to restore the timeline at the end of part 3 hence Aerith will be permanently dead and will be at the lifestream like in Advent Children, Zack is also dead, and returning everything to what once was at least that's what I'm thinking since marlene is waiting in the original timeline. Returning to the original timeline will be now missing Aerith as a result.

@@xxH4rdC0R3xx I honestly couldn't care less about arguments over the definition of a remake, it's got nothing to do with the issues with the ending. It's not "high IQ" because they added 5 steps to the process, and not understanding isn't why I don't care anymore. I understood it, and what they've told me is that there are no rules and limitations to this fictional world anymore, because the multiverse makes anything possible, no matter how dumb and unbelievable it is. A guy dies 3 times, yet survives and drops into the final battle, gets a meteor dropped on his face and escapes through a portal. A character that was saved onscreen dies anyway cos other timeline lol, and we can just grab spare copies of world saving plot devices from the world next door if ours doesn't work, great. Why am I supposed to give a fuck about any of this? What happens is whatever random bs Nojima wants, instead of being a natural consequence of the events leading up to it, so why do I care what's happening on screen at any given moment?

@@fabesey2016 Gotta ask, do you know what a flowchart is? Or have you used it? Becase FF7's Remake and Rebirth's story can be easily explained when you're using a flowchart. The devs took inspiration to the light novel games where any decision could lead to a different path but only difference is that they went auto linear on a different path.

We all felt the same...

Exactly. THANK YOU!!! Game is soooo good

Forget that noise. How about I judge what I see, an episodic mess that rubs its waste all over the original like a pig in mud.

OH MY FUCKING GOD IREMEMBER THAT

He literally is and idk why so many people are ignoring it. He laid it out so clearly. The worlds are doomed to fade. It may be a “multiverse” but it’ll all flow back to the original timeline regardless. IMO this will make the lifestream sequence hit harder, because if it is confirmed by the next game that the Aerith we see is from a different timeline, then that Aerith will go back into the lifestream right? Then cloud will have to accept and come to terms with her death. THAT is when they’ll show the scene in full with cloud putting her in the water etc. Bold and ballsy move which did sacrifice some emotional weight from the end of this game, but if it pays off it’ll be worth it

Chat was actually brain dead.

same, in an age where fucking everything has to be remade, its nice not knowing what comes next.

Nomura quite literally said in the behind the scenes of Rebirth that there would be no meaning to a remake if it was one-to-one, he's the DIRECTOR of the entire trilogy, he approves the changes we see on screen, he only rejected Kitase and Nojima's ideas of bigger changes than that. But nice try spinning a other narrative without much evidence tho.

@islandboy9381 Nojima and Kitase literally said they wouldn't work on FF7 if their idea of changing the original story wasn't going to happen so Nomura was literally forced to go with their ideas.

@@Astr97 All three of them thought this way, Nojima and Kitase wouldn't be doing a FF7 remake in the first place without his say, so they already started out wanting change but Nomura only wanted to focus on certain changes to appeal to all types of fan communities.

​@islandboy9381 and you can see how what he originally wanted to do was different in the ff7 remake Ultimania There's a big thing people seem to miss Nomura wanted to do a more 1 to 1 story originally but when he was told the idea from Kitase and Nojima he was all in hes not against the change and thats why thats his thoughts now Also Nomura was the director for part 1 Hamaguchi was the director for part 2 while Nomura was the co-director we dont know who is directing part 3 yet

My thoughts aswell I think he's just like flat out in denial of the situation and part 3 will start with them trynna get through to him and him eventually breaking down when it catches up to him but that's just my take

No he isn't hallucinating. He IS going insane, yes, but he is going insane because he actually saved Aerith in ANOTHER timeline and through Sephiroth and Aerith he is now able to also see things/people from other timelines or the rift in the sky. So while he is under the impression that he saved her, he actually just created diverting timelines, one where he saved her and one where she actually dies, his timeline, just like the OG. What is fucking him up is that he is seeing the Aerith from the timeline in which he saved her, however that is not the timeline he is living in. In his timeline, Aerith still died. So he is not hallucinating because the Aerith he sees and talks to, just like the rift in the sky, are real however they don't exist in his timeline and that's what's so fucked up about this. He needs to come to terms that in HIS timeline, HIS Aerith is dead. He is not just leaving her behind temporarily, she is gone. He will go absolutely insane

I would agree with you if it wasn’t for Red sensing her too.

When Cloud held Aerith in his arms, for a brief moment, Tifa could also see two timelines. One where Aerith was saved (no blood), and a timeline where Aerith died (blood).

Initially i thought that too but then it wouldn't make sense esp when Cloud literally knows about other world's existence. So my take is he did manage to save Aerith but just not in his world. That our Cloud is jumping ot confusing between his world and other worlds.

Part 3 will probably come out in 2027. The 30th anniversary of the original FF7.

Cloud had DID "Dissasociative Identity Disorder" in the original og FF7. But you're saying that Cloud's mentsl state is even worse in this rebooted FF7 series.

@@LordMalice6d9 Rebooted? Man the events of the OG FF7 are a huge part of this trilogy. It's a sequel disguised as a Remake.

@SomnusShinra Yeah, I know that. The FF7 remake ending pretty much confirms this FF7 series is a sequel to Advent Children. But it also feels a bit like a soft reboot to the FF7 compilation.

I know I'm late, but I agree whole-heatedly about the ending. It filled me with so many conflicting emotions. Cloud's behavior is incredibly concerning, but there's still that element of hope. Everything felt so deliberate too, despite the amount of ambiguity we're left with. I'm sure most of this is all still leading to generally the same place OG leaves us, but I'm still excited to see how its executed. I can already see the Nibelheim reveal and the Plant's Crisis scene being elevated by all the setup Remake and Rebirth have done so far. That's just off the top of my head though.

oh stop it, it was good but it has a 20 year history and a head start from the other games

​@zacatkinson3926 It helped that this FF7 reboot trilogy had a strong foundation to build off of by developers at the time who actually cared.

Bro, open your eyes. Who do you think is calling the shots on this whole project? Who do you think Hamaguchi, Toriyama and Nojima are asking for permission for every addition they make to the project?? Nomura is the senior lead of the whole project, the one who is in fucking charge of all this. He is the one hearing these stupid fucking ideas and saying "That sound so kewl. GO!" Nomura is for sure the one to blame because he does not know how to say no to horseshit ideas.

​@@novachikunshut up, hater

​@@novachikun It's literally Kitase, my guy. But I get it, you want to blame Nomura to fit your narrative.

@@novachikunyea kitase is the one who hits ok on everything but sure it’s nomura a character designer and creative director has more control than the executive producer lol

WTF is lifestream black?

He clicked the "non-lethal" option though, so it's chill

Made me lol

Tifa know she going to be in the Cuck chair if Aerith is alive

No its 7 timelines until they end for the when they merge

Aerith is going to have a big role in Part 3.

I think you're right, but it still just kills the moment for me

That's not why I disliked it. It's that multiverse BS obliterates any sense of dramatic tension now we know quantum immortal copies of characters live on and can world hop now.

It IS roughly 7 seconds from the time the camera pans up to Sephiroth falling until cloud snaps out of his control and shouts "NO"

Cuts both ways; if you're critical of this stuff for any reason, you're inevitably met with a torrent of abuse from people saying "you hate change" , "you're just an OG purist", "you didn't pay attention" or "you're crying cos you didn't get what YOU wanted".

I believe when they say defying fate I don’t think it’ll be a thing of Aerith and Zack living till the end. The devs did say this will link to advent children which means they have to stay dead.

Is part 3 going to be the last game? Or will it be 4 games?

​@@LordMalice6d9 Confirmed to be a trilogy during the showcase two years ago when they announced CCR and Rebirth.

Exactly….people want all the answers in a part 2 game

agree 100%

They’ve literally explained why they’re doing what they’re doing. There’s not secret marketing going on. They said that making the original game word for word wouldn’t be very interesting, so they’ve added these new elements to give an element of doubt even to people who have played the original game but ultimately things will end up the same as the original. They said everything will link up with Advent Children by the end.

The ending of remake is amazing the reason you think it sucks is cause it changed the story but what they did is freaking brilliant and so is rebirth's ending it opens the story to so many posibilities if you and the "fans" are close minded thats on you.

That takes too much effort to think about, don't bring your logic and common sense here sir

Do you think these people paid attention in English class?

I don’t know what their intention was but it just left me confused and rather deflated. Unless that was their intention lol.

@@torchlight1785a lot of the parts of the OG were confusing prior to the lifestream sequence. I believe what they’re building up to is that sequence in which they will show cloud coming to terms with aeriths death fully. I believe he’s subconsciously denying it and going crazy seeing a lifestream aerith after Sephiroth merged the two worlds (that’s why when you see cloud holding aerith you see flashes of him saying something which is inferred to be “aerith won’t laugh, cry etc” Really builds up the unreliable narrator and it’ll have huge payoff IF executed well. Combined with the Zack stuff it’ll make for a really tear felt moment imo. Only thing that sucks is that they sacrificed some emotional weight for the final game. If they fuck up that final game? Yeah it’s over, but I have complete faith

It's a sequel in the sense that at least Sephiroth and even a version of Aerith are aware of what happened in the original, implying that this is in a way is a reboot in-universe that those in the lifestreams are aware of. It seems some events cannot be changed but regardless they seem to be leading into a completely different ff7 ending for part 3 where everyone in the planet is saved but not without some consequences I'm assuming. Making advent children events to be erased.

It's not that the theory is debunked, it's that this is explicitly the case, but it doesn't make sense because the writers are incompetent and don't realize recreating the story almost beat for beat is irreconcilable with it being a meta sequel where characters clearly have foreknowledge, but they do anyway.

Maybe he used his limit break when he tried to block Sephiroths sword from hitting Aeris? You could tell Cloud was using all of his strength to stop it.

@@callmem5032 no, it's a reference to the state of mind of the cast. In OG fury gives you max limit break. All of them were in fury status except cloud who was super chill thinking he saved aerith

They’ve cooked but we have to wait till the last game to see if it’s edible because right now the Zack stuff felt so tacked on and rather inconsequential.

@@torchlight1785Yeah, that's the issue. Though while playing I found all of it 'interesting' and entertaining enough that it didn't get in the end. Except for the ending if they fuck it up.

I think it was just a tiny bit confusing in the moment bc it has so many double meanings that werent in the og. I didnt like it bc i was like where are all the iconic scenes like the actual stab and dropping her in the water. Upon a second inspection and more open mind i dont actually dislike it as much bc they are def saving it for a very brain fucky moment for cloud. Like we will definitely get the cloud lowering aerith into the water scene. It was just a little bit of stuff like that. A lot of this will be just like remake where how good this is can only be as good as what the next part does with it.

me personally i think they nailed it. they been hyping up that you can change fate and maybe save aerith and in the moment you do for a bit till the game does the glitch thing that means cloud is hallucinating and it shows she died either way. shit fucked me up

I think they were just trying to bait people. I think they knew they had to try something different.

@@EttrrA it almost got me but i ended up being too confused in the moment and a little nostalgia blind in the moment but im glad it worked for you at least. Second watch through i was like fuckkkk i wish i would have picked up on that sooner.

@@chrisbullock8158sorry to hear that. i know people might be confused if they didnt catch on initially and i dont think the ending was perfect, could of made some stuff easier to understand but hopefully game 3 has a huge payoff to all of this because i really loved these last two ff7 games