Indeed it is. But I am getting close. Some of my audience shared a few contacts I am trying now . We will get one eventually to make a video. Otherwise both the real nor the superfake not worth that effort to get in my opinion:)
Best Hermes belt comparisons so far on the internet. 14:36 My wild guess is the original one shouldn't worth more than $200. The rest $800 is the brand value.
Thank you so much for your support. And I started to feel the vibe and urge of investigative journalism in the leatherverse and I love it too. Trying to learn it as we go
because quality is almost the same as fake product, so people are buying the brand name of the quality of product in sense of value materials, true the craftmanship of the product is higher for the authentic once because its made in EU and not in china, but its not that much.
He just said the cowhide comes from a Specific placing in Europe. That can’t be that cheap for the leather. You’re comparing China to Europe. The pay rate is different. You have workers rights. Fair pay. Benefits. Sweatshop workers vs well paid employees. Think of the cost analysis of marketing, employees, rent locations, packaging, shipping, etc. I agree I don’t think it cost that much to make, but I don’t think it that cheap to support a business. It’s like comparing California vs. Kentucky. It’s more expensive to live or run a business in California than one that doesn’t have regulations. Minimum wage in CA is more than $15 an hour vs Idaho where their minimum wage is $7.25. So, production of items have to cost more to pay for labor and regulations.
The balls on this guy! Going to the location like this with camera calming them down and haggling price down and than posting the whole thing in well viewed video! Excellent
I missed seeing his balls, but maybe next time. But yeah, those people don't like to be filmed and would throw you out if they knew it because they are breaking international laws. Personally, I don't see the problem, since those customers aren't going to buy the real items anyway and rich people don't buy expensive things with logos on them.
So for $100 on a counterfeit, most likely they rip you off as you’re a tourist. Perhaps it’s better to have a local who speak their language could help bargain. Also this video is extremely informative! Thank you!
We need to stop buying for the name, whether it be real brand or superfake brand. And buy good quality. I would rather buy Tanner's real leather products over French luxury or superfake any day.
@@tanyanest9194that’s about what you’d pay in China for a top quality one. Tanner just needs a regular to show him how to haggle with the vendors more effectively. I’ve been to China many times and it’s all actually quite fun. I just consider it souvenir shopping.
YES As someone who has been to Guangzhou and Shenzhen as a tourist, I've been waiting for videos like this forever. Fun to know you've lived there for a bit.
We would love to see more of these belt deconstructions , brands like polene and Ralph Lauren have belts under 100$, it would be interesting to see if the quality is as good as their bags.
Ralph Lauren is notorious for outsourcing 90%+ of its products to other suppliers. While they often suggest that their items are made in the USA or Europe, the reality appears to be that much of the production happens in China, Vietnam, and Bangladesh. Oftentimes, though, the final assembly occurs in the US or Europe, which would permit them to claim that their items are America or European made. So, I guess we might be able to guess what the quality might be like…
I have 2 Ralph Lauren belts which I bought over 20 years ago, they are still intact. Been using them (only 2 belts I have had) for all these years until about 4 years ago I purchased a belt made by APC and last year a belt from Bally. The 2 Ralph Lauren belts are still being used but I just though I deserved to expand my collection a little bit 😅 I saw some new RL belts on website and they looked very similarly to the ones I have got, good thing about RL is that they are pretty consistent with their aesthetic.
I love your videos! All your videos are eye opener and give you good insights for personal decision making when it comes to luxury items! I wish a lot of people will see more of your videos.
@summerofsais That is difficult to fathom. I wear my H belt daily, changing the buckle between gold and silver. I have taken it on vacations, it has gone through airport security, & when I go clothes shopping, I must take it off and put it back on multiple times. It is still in perfect condition, even after I tried to squeeze it through a non-Hermes buckle. When I needed an extra hole punched, I took it to Hermes and they gladly did it for me. I have definitely gotten my money’s worth! Although I bought it when prices were much lower. But that shows how well it has held up.
My heart skipped many beats when you scraped the real Hermes belt’s glazing. It hurts though it’s not my belt. While I am super curious about the truth, I am at the same time feeling it’s a waste of good leather belt. Thank you for making such a sacrifice.
Thank you for your support. Its actually fun and great learning for me at this point. It doesn’t feel like a cost anymore. It’s more like a fee or investment for getting better at my craft that I am very passionate about.
Wow, leather shops in China.. Now THIS is interesting! FYI, there are Hermes superfakes from China where they say they have the original artisans and materials working after they left Hermes. I wonder if you could find one of those and compare.
@@tanner.leatherstein I have ordered from a superfake before (my mom and sister found them) that claims they have the original Hermes artisans and leathers. LMK if you still need a connect. They are not cheap though, but I'm really curious if they're as good as they say. The Hermes bifold I got was very good quality, and smelled like high quality leather, but I'm not a professonal like you are. Very cool series by the way. Hope to see more of your China adventures!
Actually its true. In India also I know people who worked for big fashion brands, under annonimity, and secrecy contract. But the catch is even if they work this thing is done on assembly line method no bag is made by single or by two people. But always by more people who specialises actually themselves macanised. one is cutting, another sweing and so on. Even now many small factories are making such highend products. You will always find a difference in truly handmade and so called handmade where assembly process been used.
The top tier super fake Chanel double flap bag should be around $600 which they claim the leather is from the same factory where Chanel purchases their leather from. I’m very curious to see you doing one of these if possible - based on my observation the main differences are stitches and hardware/engraving. Not sure about what happens deep down the leather
This was interesting but I must point out, your belt is not a high tier replica. There is no way that belt passes as a so called "super fake" when the buckle is such an obvious call out. High level replicas exist and would never have a buckle that is that obviously fake. I have heard that these fakes can even pass the computer programs. Those are the bags I'd love to see a dissection on. Thank you!
really appreciate you as a person who is not biased on anyone. i am also a seller of authentic leather goods but to each his own . There are people who prefer to only purchase authentic items and even pre owned but authentic items and there are also people who can not afford to buy authentic brands but resorts on not real luxury brands. i respect their decision as same like yours and i really admire how you as a knowledgeable authenticator views it as a person without judging anyone based on their prerogative use.
I still love my LV reverse monogram *yutulux* clutch! It's versatile, fits a variety of items, and is definitely a workhorse! I think seeing it everywhere (like the LV speedy) is proof that it's already a classic.
there’s also A- class and B-class fakes, with the A-class made in the same factory as the original-something i learnt from a group tour in an East Asian country
Those aren't really "fakes". At times it is how the factories make their real money. That is quote a low price and then make up thr margin on unsanctioned production runs with the same materials and staff.
Great video! Would you consider inspecting MSN craft bags at some point in the future? They have a channel here on RU-vid and while they make their own designs, they also make Hermes superfakes at request (they don't do the Hermes logo, so I suppose technically they would be dupes?). I'm curious about the quality and materials of those Hermes replicas, as they look pretty good on video.
I’d like to see this too! I actually ordered from them and LOVE my bag. It was beautifully packaged when I received it and is immaculately crafted IMO! I wasn’t looking for a superfake though, just a nice quality leather piece to carry, that wasn’t outrageously expensive. I am very happy with my purchase!
I really love *preluxs* bags. The fabric is very good. The golden embellishments add a touch of beauty. When I went to the church, I received some praise.
Saddle stitches are only used in hard to sewn areas of Hermes’ products and their birkins and Kellys and other top end products rest are made with machine and hand finished.
I bought my belt from Hermes, it wasn’t very durable unfortunately. What about Longchamp Le Foulonne leather? Supposedly comes from same place as Hermes leather.
@@tanner.leathersteinGreat review!!! Love to watch your videos! I am very happy about my Polene collection after you reviewed it. How about the new brand Basile?
Depends on which factory you going , sometimes you can find 1 over 1 exact copy like authentic , just pay a little high price like 300 dollars for example. Sometimes like this example , yeah the H belt looks cool but to me it is slightly off in terms of texture so considered A- grade but great enough. As consumerism trapped many poors , I bet to use these item as it is meant to be worn , sometimes super fake can last long or may be just worn out fast, subject to personal habits. However it is wiser to find great craftmanship of item for long lasting usage.
No you are totally wrong. I will recommend you to visit - it is possible time to time - an Hermes facility and you will see the quality of the leathers used, the respect of the animals providing these leathers ( even if at the end they finished in leather), the hand work of highly skilled craftsmen , happy to work there and happy to be able to Show their incredible quality of work. NOTHING to be compared with automatic machine work with poorly paid worker and leathers produced in poor condition with harmful chemicals. Impossible to compare, there is nothing comparable.
@@Kate-qq3ezyou won’t be that enthusiastic when you learn that your Hermes artisans only earn 1700€ a month while making 10000€ birkin bags. Stop giving them money. There are other brands and artisans more respectful of your hard earned money
When I visited Antalya in Turkey I came across the 'Bazaar' selling mostly fake designer bags and clothes. I asked one of the sellers if they imported from China and they said that they now have factories all over Turkey manufacturing fakes. They even make the Rolex watches in Turkey. I was quite impressed. They do have at least two 'qualities', the cheaper plastic and gilt ones and the real leather and good hardware as an option. As someone who has always worked in luxury in Paris I did study the bags and they were pretty good quality. I'm sure that between the leather quality, the hardware quality, the minimum overheads and salaries it could easily explain how these prices exist. I did buy two Contance belts, one I exchanged the next day as the colour came off on my white fabric but he said that even a year later I could take them back and exchange them. I am soon to be visiting Istanbul and looking forward to seeing what they are doing there ! I am not depriving Hermes of my custom because I would never shop there. My Hermes scarves came from charity shops, my first Birkin from a flea market (I'm told it's real) and my Contance is a 60's copy. I always laugh when I see people in magasines draping Hermes blankets over their beds when you can buy a good copy for 16 euros ! They also always seem to have a Birkin or two lying around.
Superfakes birkin in China could sell up to usd 2000, claiming they obtain leather from same leather supplier of H and hired ex artisan of H, the story seems feasible but still doubtful to me, wouldn’t Hermes put things like any anti competition clause to retired artisans ?
White contrast stitching with black color on non SO nor bespoke items from Hermès is a dead giveaway that you should be able to identify the moment that light reaches your retina! Also the fonts for the Constance buckles are different between the 38mm and 32mm width and the fake one uses the 32mm font. Another easy giveaway! If the belt was saddle stitched, the belt without the buckle alone would be at least $1500!
Would you do a video on some actual vegan leather options? I saw a video on mushroom based leather, that looked so good! I'm curious to know your thoughts on that. Keep it up!
Excellent review! I ventured into Philippines for fakes once upon a time. Your videos have me shopping independent artisans. Are you an independent artisan?
I hear them all. It just takes time to get to all. As a small team we are trying our best to listen and follow you guy’s lead to explore the leatherverse together. And its fun!
The brown briefcase is my design Senior made with Togo Calfskin. You can find it on pegai.com Senior Togo. It is a special edition made to order craft. Thank you
Recommendations for good quality belts that give off quiety luxury? I have a friend whose belts are quite worn out and they are in desperate need of an upgrade.
Are we going to see the analysis of the fake Chanel bag? Would you get a real Chanel bag from The RealReal for comparison?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!??! 😆I love this video. Some may say that now you give more intel to the fake guys to make their superfake even better. But I think this also helps consumers in identifying the red flags for counterfeit and stay away from the counterfeit/dupes as well.
hi tanner! im a fan 😊 i also watch collin abroadcast’s youtube channel where he bargains in markets selling fake goods in china and in other countries as well. a collab with him would super interesting! some of his videos show the “back rooms” of the fake markets in china :) just putting it out there and hopefully u get to see my comment ❤
Very cool video, Have you ever done a review on Jack Georges leather bags for men. I'm interested in getting one but curious about the quality of the leather.
so how can we spot difference between cheap or bad leather with nice finish and good quality top grain without acetone or microscope when buying in stores or even online?
@@tanner.leatherstein If you were to put out a quilted flap medium and jumbo style model you will knock it out of the park! May I add, if your company can look into using USPS for international orders rather than fedex. Fedex and UPS charge too much for their own brokerage service fees, USPS uses the destinarion countries own postal service and they only charge actual customs fees. Some people will not buy if you ship using fedex. Your products are so good!
I enjoy all of your videos. I have a question, the bags that you sell on your website are they made in the USA? There is no country of origin listed. Thank you.
I'm happy to hear that you love the videos! To answer your question, the main workshop, based in Dallas, TX, USA, primarily handles most orders for small crafts for customers within the USA. International orders and all bag category orders are typically fulfilled and shipped from the crafting workshop in Turkey. Thank you so much!
Hermes has their own tanneries - and have been acquiring more. I suspect you will easily be able to get leather of the comparable or better quality for the same price (even with the best of the best grained calfskin you won't get anywhere near the price Hermes asks for) but getting the exact same leathers may be impossible. That's not a big deal if you are dealing with calfskin without an added (stamped) grain but I think you are out of luck getting an identical grain leather.
Are the super-fakes not made in turkey? I have seen the Chinese “high quality” fakes in China town ny, and they are very close but not same quality of craftsmanship as original. Not same attention to detail. I hope you can compare with a belt bought at the Turkish super replica market.
I would like to send fake Prada bag I bought in China when I worked and lived there so you can make the same analysis. I don’t need that bag. Where I can find the address to send it to you?
I think you got the cheap fake and got ripoff. There are AAA grade that looks more identical but yah it’s going to be fake. Just with better leather and more detail buckle.
