I am a Christian, why am I in Hell?! - Pat's Testimony 

What a revelation! Especially how you tied in Esther. Wow

TY for sharing what our Lord revealed to you. I needed to hear that. My “little” presumptuous sins are horrible. Ty

​@@stevevos2764 me too. Wow. Amen

Thank you for sharing the grace that came to you

I been clean from alcohol for 4 years and today I been wanting to drink all day! I thought I can maybe drink and ask forgiveness after I drink but it’s so delusional. Help me with this I don’t want to commit this sin

Please pray for me, i really need to stop smoki. I really want to hate them. Pls Lord forgive me and deliver me, to Your glory. Amen ❤🙏

@@user-bo1nm3mz1k Prayed for you! I used to be a longtime smoker and quit before I knew the Lord (but recognize it was His grace that allowed me to quit and gave me wisdom). Memorize Philippians 4:13! God bless you!

@@daughterofgod3721 thank you very much. God bless you 🙏🙏❤❤

Oh how I can testify to that!! I was that way as well, I had to do it by faith with God's help of course,I was doing the same thing, but to say, back and forth I went with cigarettes, but finally God delivered me..many many, many years ago, and never looked back,..thank God for Jesus!!,

Would you please pray for me that I can quit? I believe God delivered me from cigarettes and I went back with my own free will. I’ve tried quite a few times since and I’m having a hard time with it.

I feel in a similar boat brother. I will pray for you right this moment. And when I’m done praying for you I’ll submit this comment and ask the same for your prayers brother.

God bless all with peace, love, health, safety, prosperity, and protection!

Adam I feel like you do. I am so hungry for Jesus and having a real relationship with him yet I still struggle so badly with denying sin. I have a couple sins that are ever present in my life and I believe it keeps me from having the transformative experience I so yearn for. Yet the demon of addiction and the demon of hate have me bound. I will pray for you Adam. Know that you are not alone 🤍 🕊️

Praying Adam.

It's his goodness that draws us to repent.

WELL SAID

I bet you're super humble and repentant, huh.

But it feels like EVERYTHING is a sin...

@@liia9736yes it feels like we are suppose to live in fear.. aren’t we suppose to receive like little children ?

Amen Amen Amen 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾💕💕💕

That’s right! So many just skip over the fact that Pride is not of The Father, but of the world! Not even God is Proud….. which is Vain Glory or Worshipping the work of His Own Hands. He made us, in the hopes that we would willingly WORSHIP HIM and I Do! Amen

@@foxecarpentress4964 So you think salvation is based upon how you live not based upon what you believe? One sin could keep a person out of heaven Jesus died for all sins he doesn’t see person’s sin because they are all forgiven so either you believe all your sins are forgiven and you trust in Jesus or you are working for your salvation and you are trusting in your works not Jesus finished work These so called visits to hell pure nonsense because a Christian who trusts in Jesus could never end up there ever

​@@markhall6306 Right? These stories border on legalism which is killing the church. Not saying people should "sin that grace may abound", but it makes the cross of no effect if salvation is based on works.

​@@markhall6306no it's faith and works.. faith without works is dead James 2! Matthew 25 is based on works separating the sheep who feed the hungry, visited the sick and imprisoned etc they did 'work', those who didn't do these things were the goats and cast to our darkness.. did Jesus say just have faith in me and your saved.. no! Demons have more faith in Christ than any human but are not faithful we have to live our faith which is following Christ and his example of works.

@@heyitsedz1785 James is talking to saved people no it’s not works you add works to salvation you cancel out your salvation stop listening to false teachers

Amen. As do I. As soon as I wake. Because we are in this corruptible meat bag.

According to her, the blood of Jesus isn't enough. If she was born again then the blood of Christ should have covered her.

@@deshia1471 Yes, thats why: "Jesus, please wash me with Your blood and fill me with the Holy Spirit so that I can enter Heaven again! Amen"

@@tjombom If you truly accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you don't have to pray a lie against the Bible! Stop IT!!!!! You are going against what Jesus Taught and Paul Taught! Why?

@@deshia1471 And if you were to compare what she said to the Bible you would know that what she is saying is a lie and straight from Lucifer! All words like this can be compared to Scripture and we know those Words are a lie to Deceive YOU! Why do you buy into these lies of Lucifer?

Its not by your own works. Resisting is your own works. From what I understand, its by His grace. His grace is sufficient for us.

Resisting isn’t your own works - the Bible literally says faith without works is dead (James 2:26) and that we must “resist the devil and he will flee” (James 4:7). We pray for God’s help AND by faith, we take action to help ourselves. What this man did is biblical.

@@mrtwister9002it is, you have free will

How were you delivered from those demons?

God is great!!!

That’s beautiful!

@@saffron4441look into deliverance ministries my friend

That’s why I left a church, I now let Jesus our Great Teacher to teach me! I no longer go to man, but God! He will teach you all truth! And I will not be lead by man, only God! He will show you all things, because I will only be lead by the Holy Spirit! Glory to God!!! All I know the only Good thing in Me, Is JESUS! Other then that there is NO good things in me, I’m a wretched man, always in need of HIS forgiveness and Mercy! My only hope is in Jesus, that through His death I now have life! Thank you for all You have done for me, because I’m NOthing without you!

Amen! I can relate to this…I drank for 15 years or so and even while I got saved I still was battling with drinking (as it is a strong generational curse on my father’s side). God has recently set me free the very beginning of 2024. It’s like I woke up one morning and didn’t even have a desire for it anymore! I knew immediately that God had set me free. He took it away just like that!!😊

Praise God!

@@kenyalove7343excellent that is so good to hear :) nice bot to have the desire anymore. Makes it easier for sure ❤

@@Edoc-kc9mn Thank you. All praises to God my Father🙌🏾❤️

GOD IS GOOD. AMEN

Right! None of us can ever be “good enough”.

Thank You Dear Friend! God Bless You Always! Thank You Lord Jesus! Thank You! John 3:16

We are seated in heavenly places we aren’t disgusting sinners anymore

@@vespfreegottlieb4263 No, she is right. You aren't seated anywhere. Especially not heavenly places, thats blasphemy. You dont deserve any of it and you never will. It's only because of Gods grace that we even have a chance. You can't buy your way into heaven by being a good person. Your "good deeds" are dirty, filty rags before the Lord. Isaiah 64:6

@@caesarskiba9008 Then what's the point?

How can u make sure of ur salvation

​@@stefaniakonstantinidou981 Romans 10:9 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

@@stefaniakonstantinidou981 so I was wrong about that, that verse is taken out of context and I took it out of context too, please do not listen to me about that and just keep repenting and believing in the gospel

Yet, you see these things and even though God created us KNOWING the outcome, AND God has unconditional love for His creation, AND He commands us to love and forgive our enemies, God will NOT do the very same thing He commands us to do and send MOST of His creation to some eternal torment? Really? Do you honestly believe that OR have you not thought about what you are saying? Maybe you are following religious doctrine without thinking or researching? God didn't create us just so He can have the satisfaction of torturing us. At least I would hope not! Right?

@@Total_Body_Fitness_USA I agree

Presumptuous Sin is the same as Hypocrisy. Blessings 🙏✝️🙏

Yes, but she condones Joyce Meyer, word of faith, apostles for today etc. We cannot live perfect lives. We do fall at times in our human conditions. Yes we have to pray against wilful sin.

I never had myself 😮

probably because it isn't in the bible

@@oscarcat1231Joyce Meyer is not from God.

Amen! Yes, Lord help us to endure to the end!

SALVATION: To clarify the gospel of our salvation: Our gospel that saves us today is to believe that Jesus died on the cross, shedding His blood, was buried and rose from the dead for the forgiveness of our sins. I Cor 15:1-4. That's step one. Step two: We must put our trust in this gospel for the forgiveness of our sins and nothing else, to be saved. It's that simple. Jesus did the work necessary for our salvation. We cannot. Paul puts it this way: Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, True salvation only comes when we believe that Jesus is our ALL SUFFICENT SAVIOR. We cannot add anything to His blood shed and work of salvation on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins. We are not saved by repenting (turning from sin), being baptized in water, walking an aisle, saying a prayer, confessing with your mouth, being “born again”, or following Jesus’ earthly ministry. Those are mostly "works" salvation. We are saved by grace, not works (Rom 11:6), through faith alone, in Christ work on the cross. It is a gift 100%. Rom 3:24 KJV Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Titus 3:5-6, I Cor 15:1-4 Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. He came to save sinners, not people trying to make themselves righteous by doing some kind of good work, getting wet or turning from their sins, they cannot do totally anyway. Simply believe and put your trust in the new gospel Jesus gave to Paul for us today to be saved by. Then start reading Rom - Phil to understand what was written to us the body of Christ, so we could know what God wants from us and who we are in Christ, once we are saved. The books Paul wrote are the only place we find the gospel that saves us today. Then read the rest of your bible that is FOR us but not TO and ABOUT us. 94% of the bible is TO and ABOUT Israel, yes Israel. Don’t steal their mail and try to make it yours. And don’t be fooled by people who tell you, you need to do some good work to be saved or to stay saved or to prove that you are saved. That is not the gospel for us today which is a free gift of GRACE when we believe and trust in what Jesus did on the cross for our sins. Eph 2:8 KJV For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Eph 2:9 KJV Not of works, lest any man should boast.

​@@lchimenzThank you! That was well articulated. Shalom ❤️🙏❤️

@@lchimenz God is no respecter of persons. Also, God is the same yesterday, today and forever. HE wanted holiness from the beginning, that has not changed. HE came into the world so that men could be saved from sin and death. We are only saved by Grace, not of any works. But if we are saved, we are changed, born again, and sanctified for holiness. Paul went deep into the theology of salvation, but said the same thing. We must examine ourselves to prove we are in the faith. The priests had to wash in the Laver constantly. The beloved disciple said it best to the church: "7 Little children, let no one deceive you: The one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as Christ is righteous. 8 The one who practices sin is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the very start. This is why the Son of God was revealed, to destroy the works of the devil." Our LORD gave us a simple test to know if we were saved: "If you love me, you will keep my commandments".

Yes, Amen!

I think she sounds totally sincere and is not disagreeing with anything in scriptures. It reminds me of the Bible verse that tells us to be careful when we think we stand, lest we fall.

It could of been a vision for her and her life

@@am33-dj8zd if what happened to her matches what the Bible supports, then it’s true for everyone.

I feel the same way, if you’ve truly accepted Jesus Christ as your saviour & that he is the Son of God etc, you are saved. I do believe you can fall away by changing your mind about Jesus, so you have to remain in faith.

I feel the same. good words but for me, she talks like she's teaching and not what she learns. I feel she didn't tell us what she did that put her in hell if that's where she went. I feel she could have been having an AWWWW awakening of her spiritual belief for I don’t think she had an NDI, so what was it. She hasn't told us what what her sin was that she feels put her in hell. Don't get me wrong but there's no self-reproach of what she thinks she did. Not wording this right. She hadn't told us what she learned her self but she’s just teaching and defining. God Bless...I’m not putting her down. God Bless her.

Hebrews 10: 26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, Of course if we are in christ we are sanctified. Not by our works but his. Do not deceive yourself that we can live in conscious unrepentant sin.

You are wrong, you are misquoting the scripture in Hebrews 10. Sin means "missing the mark" Please read the whole thing in context. He is contrasting the difference between the old and new covenant. Heb 11:26-29 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?" In other words if you turn away from trusting in the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ, you have no hope of salvation. Don't despise the Spirit of grace, it is a gift, Please take the gift, stop trying to earn it! Rest in Christ, and thank Him for what He did to save us!!!

The road to heaven through Jesus is narrow. Dont be deceived that you can sin and repent anytime you want. That means you have it easy. I do believe that a lot of christians will be surprised where they end up because they dont want to carry the cross that is striving for righteousness. Not just living like the world and counting on being saved.

Thank you 🙏

Remember that last part, Paul contrasts sowing to the flesh and corruption with sowing to the spirit and eternal life in Galatians.

You either believe that Jesus paid your sin debt in full or you don't. If He didn't pay for all our sins, then He's an incompetent Savior. You've got another gospel.

Yes his Grace is sufficient but it's not a license to commit deliberate sin which I am guilty of LORD please help me in this area of my life

So you can do whatever you want and go to heaven? I don't think it says that anywhere in the Holy Scriptures , unless you misconstrued some of Paul's teachings@hogansheroes2793

@@EmilyMSmith93 How you live has absolutely nothing to do with salvation at all. That's a service issue. Salvation is absolutely free and not conditional upon service to God. You've got another gospel of faith plus works equals salvation nonsense here 💯%.

@@davidreed6264 No it's not a license to sin. However, let's be absolutely clear here, grace isn't grace if the possibility of abusing it doesn't exist.

@@dublindog8038 Why are you upset?

Yes. I felt tormented and oppressed over some of it. God’s mercy and love were left out of this talk. That’s why the bad feelings.

@@dublindog8038I highly doubt that a truly saved person can go to hell. These people that went to hell more than likely never put their faith in Christ and truly believed. Same as people who say they were saved and then got demon possessed. Devils are not gonna shack up with the Holy Spirit that lives in a true believer!

Phil.2:12 mentions work out your own salvation, and the following verse mentions the context.”For it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure. Julia, you testified of the goodness of God and you put yourself out there and humbled yourself to identify with others. Pat in her testimony was using the platform to preach her preconceived beliefs. There was no sincere humility, always hesitating to speak about her folly in detail. Trying to strip salvation security from believers which is a huge topic that you cannot argue with one verse out of context. If a person want to dismantle this topic, they have to explain verses like Phil. 1:6, 1 John5:13, Rom. 8:35-38 Which she never mentioned. Just too many red flags in her preaching. You can’t change scripture with an experience. We have to test all things.

Perhaps the Lord lets people see hell to warn others to truly repent?

Amen!

Amen

Amen

Amen

Confess your sins to a priest. That is what the early Church taught and still does. Every non- Catholic Christian denomination (>40,000) has their own interpretation, supposedly all based on the Bible or their interpretation. Look at how Satan is attacking the Catholic church.

amen, no one can be perfect except Jesus ❤

I agree - one of the most impactful testimonies I have heard in quite a while. Life changing!

Very grateful for the length and the message it brings!

Thank you so much Julie. This is an absolute life changing message. I needed it !

A blessing? It stole my Joy I once had, I don't know what to think about my walk with the Lord, I don't know what to think or feel anymore. Jesus please help me.

I love you

We don't know anything about her. She was saying absolutely nothing really, her narcissism, self importance and internal rage are palpable. She contradicts herself numerous times and just gets angrier and angrier. She was also reading from a script in front of her but was completely lacking any genuine emotion. Deep caution to be used with this one.

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I agree with you completely. I also used to struggle to understand with the meaning of working out your own salvation with fear and trembling. The way your explain it makes complete sense. Thank you

I do agree with you@@bloggerty-schmoo2698, but I still believe God works in mysterious ways. And what I see is someone who still isn’t humbly responding to the call of The Lord due to her narcissism and internal rage. She’s still struggling with the Pharisee spirit for sure. We should probably pray for her. Lots of what she said was actually biblical.

Exactly, it’s a process

It took years for me to be ready for deliverance from addictions. Once I was ready, God brought the right people in my life to lead me in deliverance. I no longer have addiction to lust, alcohol, and marijuana. I surrender to the Lord and command tempting spirits to leave whenever they come around. I’m FREE, and no longer living in these willful sins

@@charleshawes2316 ❤️🙏

@@charleshawes2316 praise God, so grateful you have been set free.

@@charleshawes2316 Amen Brother

Discover Church Online with Pastor Steve Ciccolanti I hear is good church

The Catholic Church is the original church founded by Jesus Christ. Be glad you have that church go learn the catechism there, so you know what treasure you have there in that church. Jesus Christ lives there for us in the holy Eucharist. You will not find him in any other church.

@@zsrz4877100% agree. The Catholic Faith is perfect and a gift from God. God bless those who don’t fear proclaiming the faith.

The Catholic Church is were the humble pray. Pray the Rosary if the priests seem off. Find a priest that believes in the power of the Rosary and you won’t find a better church. Don’t believe in a the born again talk. Because it’s all feelings based.

Jesus is in your heart but also present in the Eucharist, should be lots of traditional Catholic Churches in Mexico :)

I agree 100%. Jesus help us. We don't want to go to that awful place. Ever and please save our loved ones and as many others as possible. Amen

I encourage to watch the whole thing. Wondering why you “couldn’t”

​@emilyrestored Can I take a guess? Maybe this person believes the Bible and not man. The Bible says Let God be true and everyman a liar.

It was showing her where she was headed... not her destiny. There were some times I struggled listening fully... but that is not the message. Once accepted Christ and in the relationship... it is maintaining the relationship and following. She was in the works. We are all messes. I have been willfully sinning, and this called me out. I hope you may be able to try again for it to speak to you. God bless.

I agree. I cannot conclude that this was her eternal destiny. He may have allowed her to experience hell as a way to warn others, not to conclude that she was going there. I’m also not saying that the whole one saved always saved is true either. I’m on the fence about this. I mean, if you say as soon as Prayer when you’re eight years old and then never darken the door of a church have never read your Bible , you want…. I think there are Christians who struggle and maybe the other Christians will look at them and say that they’re really really not saved because they are sleeping with their fiancé, for example.

i think she may have being connecting with spirits who were maybe not what sh thought they were

Read the Bible and trust our Lord, please!

It’s amazing how many of these people believe these messages of condemnation.

Just don't be 'done' with your salvation. Keep Going! Re-affirm and repent every day. Look to and read the ancient church Fathers that predate the Roman Catholic church, John Calvin and Martin Luther. See what they went through as the Romans hunted them down and were nonetheless able to retain their faith. See how they lived the faith. Our challenge in this day is different but no less challenging. We must avoid complacency, apostacy and pride, when every aspect of our culture is telling us that this is all nonsense and just do what you want. Good luck and God bless! I suggest investigating the Jesus Prayer and its origins. She is saying it throughout this video and doesn't realize it. Find out just how far back that prayer goes.

They ARE and came of this channel!

@@andreabiro2357You read it and surrender and walk with the Lord!

Many viewers are saying the same thing. All I felt was fear and no hope. Then I realised that God hasn’t given us the spirit of fear, but if power and sound mind. To me this woman’s testimony has some red flags. Some parts didn’t bear witness within my spirit. As long as you have an intimate relationship with God, you are good. God knows that we are not good enough and that’s why He sent His only son, to die for us. So all we have to do is submit to Jesus. In Him there is no condemnation but peace and love ❤

@@amandaowusu2405 True, He hasn't given us the spirit of fear, but of power, love, and a sound mind, but! She's basically warning us to not sin willfully, presumptuously. To think we can sin and think it's no big deal, or make excuses, because Jesus died for our sins. That's the thing. She quotes the end of Psalm 19 which specifically talks about presumptuous/willful sins. Just make sure you're keeping short accounts with God. Every day, ask Him to reveal any sins you need to confess and repent from.

@@gardengrrlWendy yes definitely, Im not disregarding her whole experience, some parts are true, my problem is that this testimony does not turn you to Jesus it rather gives uncertainty about salvation allowing people to question the Good news. A true believer will not think sin is not a big deal!!. This fear being created can push people back to be comfortable with their sins due to hopelessness . The bible wants us to be confident about our place in heaven. And every true believer worshipping in spirit and in truth have that confidence and assurance. Repentance comes with submitting to Jesus in spirit and in truth. Walking with the Lord in obedience as the Holy Spirit works in us. If you humanly walk in checking sins you will be overwhelmed and eventually backslide. Thats like the Pharisees trying to observe the law and none could fulfill all of it. Walking with the Holy Spirit will check and convict you automatically and that’s when obedience comes in. Walk with Jesus and He will create in you a clean heart and purify us. All we have to do is Obey and say yes to Him daily. Which means repenting daily. Rest in Him and don’t walk on egg shell with Him, that’s not what He wants.

A profession is different from a confession. Maybe this lady did the former and just though he did the latter. Judging from the fact that she is claiming the righteous can inherit the kingdom of darkness, I would say she had a profession not a confession. She may think she is spiritually regenerated, but she is only emotionally and logically converted. The scriptures testify against her: *Ezekiel 33:18-19* _18 If a righteous person turns from their righteousness and does evil, they will die for it. 19 And if a wicked person turns away from their wickedness and does what is just and right, they will live by doing so._

God is looking at our summiting to him. He wants us to put our faith in him. Not our works. We don't do good deeds to get brownie points from God but have a relationship with him and being obedience to his word.

Yup Sinner saved by the blood of the lamb❗❤

... Those two that you are a saint and you are saved are scriptures of God to be truth. You need to read the Bible before you say it comes from satan! Unbelievable....

AMEN

Absolutely nobody has ever been saved by loving God. We are saved because He first loved us and gave Himself for us. You either believe that Jesus paid your sin debt in full or you don't. Everything else is for service not salvation. Salvation is absolutely free and not conditional upon service to God.

@@dawntaylor3972if only more knew that ment RA Amun, a prayer to RA.

See my community post for what He showed me about it

I thought slander was saying things that aren't true to defame people. Judging righteous judgment is calling things or people out that we know to be wrong. Are you sure you aren't caught up in scrupulousity?

@@saintejeannedarc9460 I'm sure. Google gossip. Can be true things

@@saintejeannedarc9460 I agree with you that we are to Judge the Church as spoken in 1 Cor. 5. My problem is that I would interject when somebody was gossiping. Much to my shame.

What was Pat's presumptuous sin? If no one can explain, how can we learn? I listened for a long time, and maybe perhaps I missed it, but I have an honest hearted question: For what reason was Pat sent to hell? I think that all of us could learn from that revelation, but I never heard it from her. It seemed like Pat was withholding that revelation, so that we would continue to listen in anticipation. If it was "presumptuous sin," what kind of presumptuous sin? Otherwise, it may have been of little profit for us to hear her testimony.

My thoughts exactly. Plus, how did she not truly repent of her sins when she says she was born again? I'm so confused that she is only "truly" repenting after she presumably had this experience. And she's "a seer"? I think she may be somewhat into the new age stuff without even knowing it. Some people attribute things to the Holy Spirit when it's another spirit entirely. I don't think I'll watch much more of this. I'm getting a really negative feeling. I don't believe everything I hear. And I'm guessing she has written a book about this. Just a hunch.

I disagree. God gave me Revelations chapters 1 & 2 to minister on this morning and when i heard her testimony, it was confirmation. The point is cultivate a CLOSE relationship w/the Lord and dont let other things cloud your focus.

​@@Pack.LeaderI have listened to the whole thing and no, no book mentioned.

God wanted her to warn people because he's coming sooner than you think.

​​@@Pack.LeaderShe's absolutely telling the truth. She almost told my entire experience. I did not experience the burning or flame, but much of what she said, I experienced. I knew exactly 💯 percent what she was talking about.

Jesus Christ is Head of The Church, so if we seek Him truly in our heart, we'll find that His Church body does teach all these things the lady speaks of. I pray all reading this will find the fullness of the Faith in His Church, and let go of presumptions on Who He is, and what or where He is. Seek seek seek. Where our treasure is, there our heart will be also. Is our treasure in approval of or receiving from other's, or in God's approval and giving of ourselves fully as He has. Glory to Jesus Christ

One of The EXAMPLES Of GETTING CAUGHT UP SERVING SELF.

That is not true, Once you truly believe on Jesus as your Savior you are Saved.... You can't loose it "Otherwise you are saying that only your Works Save you and not the Grace of God!" Are you saying Jesus has to die more than once? This is the lie of the devil and these videos are not in accordance with The Bible! Not Once does Jesus say someone can go to Hell and then come back because as the Bible Says about the Rich Man "Once in this place there is a great Division and no one can cross through or to or beyond!" So we know all of these videos are lies against the Bible, Yet Non-Believers do not turn to the Bible they claim how Righteous they are and why if you aren't as Righteous as them, you will go to Hell! Just like the Pharisees.... But I say, Listen to the Truth of the Thief on the Cross! Anyone coming on here saying you will go to Hell that goes against the Bible "For God So Loved the World, That He Gave His only Begotten World, that Whoever Believes on Him Shall Not Perish, but Have Everlasting Life!" Sure these people can say the Lord said this to me, or I had this experience, etc (We can turn to the Bible to show these Experiences are not True!) We can know that everyone coming here on RU-vid saying oh, look she shared a Story and (They all sound the same!) and If she was really a Born Again Christian (A Lie!) Then she would not be going against the Truth of The Bible! Sure it all sounds good, but She has not been to Hell, and neither has anyone on RU-vid claiming this because as The Bible Tells us that once in this place there is no Coming Back! As a great Divide exists! Stop listening to these lies and coming on here with your comments of your own self-righteousness! Stop Praising these lies and thinking this is what the Bible Teaches! It does NOT!!!!!!!!!! Once you have Jesus you have Jesus! Period!

@@dublindog8038All of that my friend and you are still in the darkness. Read and study the whole Bible as your eternal salvation is at stake. OSAS is a LIE that sends Christians to hell!

Same here Michael. Rev 2 and Jesus' terrifying warning to the Ephesian church that if they didn't return to their first love and do the works they did at first He would remove their lamp stand from its place. That's serious! And this church looked like they were on fire for God. Oswald Chambers (I think) said " when knowledge of doctrine outsteps intimate knowledge of Jesus Christ, the soul is in danger."

I have read and studied the Bible and I know the Truth as I pray about people who make comments like you do, who tend to act like you are above sinners, and what does God do? Well He always points to Scripture about the Pharisees, the Thief on the Cross, and these Verses "For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God, For the Wages of Sin are Death but the Gift of God is Eternal Through Jesus Christ our Lord!" "It is not of Works that we are Saved but by the Grace of God, Lest any man should boast (all of you saying that OSAS is false is lying against this verse!" "For God so Loved the World that he gave his only begotten Son, that Whoever believes on him shall not Perish but have Everlasting life!" So you are now calling this verse a falsehood according to your own view? So someone goes to hell against the very message of this verse when they believe on Jesus? Are you saying you are Above God's Word? No, I know what you are saying, you are accepting the lie that this lady went to Hell and Came back and using emotion you want to go Against the Living Word just like this lady is doing for Views and Money! Is that what you really mean?

Exactly!

This video doesn't sit with my spirit. We are only righteous thru Christ. If she's holy as she says, I don't see how even Moses is in heaven.

My subjective reaction, and I prayed for discernment, is that it’s good to warn against presumptuous sin, but I find no love or hope in this testimony. It seems not so much of God. Otherpeople got a lot out of it, but it filled me with fear and dread - not peace, love, or faith.

@@charleshawes2316 I agree with you. I try hard not to bend things to my will as frankly, I am a terrible Christian so it’s tempting to figure out ways to explain this away otherwise there really is no way but down for me. But I can’t help but feel a healthy fear of God is ok, but He wouldnt terrorise us into unattainable perfection. He may well allow the devil though to steer us in the wrong direction in order to test our faith and the woman mentioned that a demon whispered something to her husband just before this experience. I would also argue that a lot of ‘good’ NDEs are also the work of the devil. The ones which say we can do no wrong on earth and it’s just a classroom - negating personal responsibility and the concept of sin. To be honest, the more I know, the less I know how this all works!!

If the Bible says one thing and this lady says something else, then who’s right? I’ve watched NDE videos before and they typically have a pattern which seems believable, but this one I question. Here’s why: 1. There’s a lot of ME (self) in this video, what I mean is “let me tell you how spiritual I am”, or “My husband has the gift of healing” or “I’m a Seer” or “I’ve been to Heaven” or “I’ve been in the Spirit”. I didn’t detect an ounce of humility in this woman’s testimony. In fact, if anything there’s 20 minutes of her hellish experience, and the rest of the time is her trying to convince me that she’s imminently qualified to make this video, and then telling me what I’m doing wrong in my Christian life. 2. This woman is more than likely a charismatic and charismatics have certain earmarks which identify them. Two of these earmarks stick out like sore thumbs in her testimony. First, Charismatics put prophecies and extra-biblical leadings on the same level as the written word of God. Second, they seek to be mystical and are not practical. To further explain, Charismatics are constantly having experiences, interpreting numbers, sequences, dreams, and visions in their lives and spiritualizing everything. This begins to take the place of scripture, soon after that every time you contract a common cold it’s God’s judgment, when it’s really not, it’s just an ongoing by-product of the fall of man from long, long ago. 3. Several times in this video my scripture alarm went off and I thought, “wait a minute, that’s not what the Bible says”. For example, when she talked about wanting the power of the spirit as a young woman at the 8-minute mark in the video, I immediately thought of Simon in Acts 8:9-21. Simon was born again, but he wanted power so badly he thought it could be purchased with money. He was wrong. Or at the 18-minute mark when she said “I went to hell as a born-again Christian”, well, either she’s wrong or the Bible is wrong. The Bible says in John 3:3-7, John 3:16, I Peter 1:23 that being born again is just that, being re-born into the family of God. At the 18:20 minute mark she states “A leader in the church” which flies in the face of I Timothy 2:12, at the 18:38 minute mark, I thought of Romans 3:10 and Isaiah 64:6. I’ll need to close here because if I don’t, I’ll be here all-night typing, but I’ll conclude with these thoughts. There is one thing that I find missing from this woman’s testimony, JESUS! When she decided she needed the power, was Jesus anywhere in there? At the 1:08 minute mark she states “if you remember in the Bible the fivefold ministry Apostles, prophets,’ evangelists,’ pastors and teachers the five-fold ministry is there for the building up and the edification of the Saints it was never to be elevated it's the foundation of Christianity” Sorry, but the foundation is Jesus, Matthew 7:24, I Peter 2:7, not tongues, not prophecy, not healing, not pastors, not the Holy Spirit not anything except Jesus. He’s the way, the truth and the life, (John 14:6) and without him we are lost.

@@tomgrant158 Wow, what an insightful reply - thank you. I wish I had people in my life who knew what they were talking about on this subject as you clearly do. Can I ask what you think of the validity of near death experiences in general? And can you tell me anything that might ease my worry about my agnostic relatives who are nearing the end of their lives?

What are you doing now?

@nikkiroxx9734 since turning my life over to God, I live each day waiting on him. His yoke is easy and burden light. I worked labor jobs including ranch caretaker and have been learning many things from the Holy Spirit that are preparing me for my place in his eternal kingdom. Eventually, I was given music back by God according to his promise that anything given up for him would be returned a hundred fold. I played music for seniors in retirement communities for many years until covid canceled it all. Now I'm retired myself and only play occasionally. Mostly, I'm looking up because my redemption draws nigh. I'm walking and talking with Jesus and soon will be gone like Enoch when God takes me in the blessed hope, the rapture. After giving up my records I began to be taught by the Holy Spirit, as Peter describes in 2 Peter 1, by obeying, I added to my faith virtue, and to virtue knowledge and the rest of the list of required things which Peter says guarantees one entrance into God's kingdom. But whoever lacks these things, Peter says, is blind, like Laodician church.

​@nikkiroxx9734 living each day, walking and talking with Jesus and waiting for the blessed hope, the rapture.

❤🙌🏾🙏🏾

I wanted to dance and I am an artist and play an instrument. Now that I am busy in the Lord. Things that I have put down. God has brought them back again for kingdom use. Praise God. Your musician gift can come back through the way God would have it used. But yes lletting go is what God need us to do first.

This is why many of us who have had these experiences will not share them because the people who are so called believers don’t even believe in the word themselves folk read it like it’s just another book with a great story. These encounters with Jesus will literally scare the hell out of you! And you really don’t understand how wicked the world is and how much you sin daily when you understand you can die at any moment you will realize how serious being saved by Jesus is and we are called to be holy. Being Lukewarm will send you straight to hell.🙏🏾

We are to trust in God and His Holy Word, not the experiential, anecdotal word of man.

Scares the heck out of you yes.

@dusttodust1522, that’s right. The word of God is the only authority on the matter. I mean….if it wasn’t for the word we wouldn’t even be talking about this. None of us would even be saved.

@@krucifixproductions What did we learn or profit? I listened for a long time, and maybe perhaps I missed it, but I have an honest hearted question: For what reason was Pat sent to hell? I think that all of us could learn from that revelation, but I never heard it from her. It seemed like Pat was withholding that revelation, so that we would continue to listen in anticipation. If it was "presumptuous sin," what kind of presumptuous sin? Otherwise, it may have been of little profit for us to hear her testimony.

My thoughts too !

I’m right there with you…😞

I’m with you. It almost seems impossible to make it to heaven.

Yea this testimony really messed with my head, made me feel like it’s impossible to get to heaven. She said she went to hell because of a religious spirit? She wasn’t very clear and I’m left confused

I think we have to be mindful not to put faith in videos & what people say, take warning yes, but remember our faith is still in Jesus. Turn to Him & open the Bible up for answers, cause we'd never feel certain just basing our relationship in what we hear on social medias. The main thing is we have to realize Jesus didn't die for us because we're good. He died for us because we can NEVER be good enough for heaven & He loves us enough to make a way. It's not our works that get us there, its our faith/belief/confession that Jesus is the ONLY way. The accepting that realization; I'm really not good enough, Jesus truly is the only way. Its through Him, we should never think our works are good enough. If we could work our way into heaven, Jesus would not have been necessary. But He is necessary. Accepting that fact is where it's at. I think feeling religious or being religious is the sin. Cause its not religion that saves us, but Jesus only. If we worship religion- we are missing the whole point. Jesus is reality not religion. And He hates sin because sin hates us. Sin brings pain, illness, division from our families etc.. That's why God hates sin, cause it hates us. The people, his creation that he loves SO MUCH & wants us to choose Him. Don't be afraid fellow believer, just trust in Him & walk close to Him through prayer & reading scripture. (KJV is my fave, its not missing 400 verses like the NIV & others). Jesus is not going to force His presence into your life, our lives, cause we're under free will. But He will gladly accept your invitation. Don't lose hope, that's not coming from God.

If the Bible says one thing and this lady says something else, then who’s right? I’ve watched NDE videos before and they typically have a pattern which seems believable, but this one I question. Here’s why: 1. There’s a lot of ME (self) in this video, what I mean is “let me tell you how spiritual I am”, or “My husband has the gift of healing” or “I’m a Seer” or “I’ve been to Heaven” or “I’ve been in the Spirit”. I didn’t detect an ounce of humility in this woman’s testimony. In fact, if anything there’s 20 minutes of her hellish experience, and the rest of the time is her trying to convince me that she’s imminently qualified to make this video, and then telling me what I’m doing wrong in my Christian life. 2. This woman is more than likely a charismatic and charismatics have certain earmarks which identify them. Two of these earmarks stick out like sore thumbs in her testimony. First, Charismatics put prophecies and extra-biblical leadings on the same level as the written word of God. Second, they seek to be mystical and are not practical. To further explain, Charismatics are constantly having experiences, interpreting numbers, sequences, dreams, and visions in their lives and spiritualizing everything. This begins to take the place of scripture, soon after that every time you contract a common cold it’s God’s judgment, when it’s really not, it’s just an ongoing by-product of the fall of man from long, long ago. 3. Several times in this video my scripture alarm went off and I thought, “wait a minute, that’s not what the Bible says”. For example, when she talked about wanting the power of the spirit as a young woman at the 8-minute mark in the video, I immediately thought of Simon in Acts 8:9-21. Simon was born again, but he wanted power so badly he thought it could be purchased with money. He was wrong. Or at the 18-minute mark when she said “I went to hell as a born-again Christian”, well, either she’s wrong or the Bible is wrong. The Bible says in John 3:3-7, John 3:16, I Peter 1:23 that being born again is just that, being re-born into the family of God. At the 18:20 minute mark she states “A leader in the church” which flies in the face of I Timothy 2:12, at the 18:38 minute mark, I thought of Romans 3:10 and Isaiah 64:6. I’ll need to close here because if I don’t, I’ll be here all-night typing, but I’ll conclude with these thoughts. There is one thing that I find missing from this woman’s testimony, JESUS! When she decided she needed the power, was Jesus anywhere in there? At the 1:08 minute mark she states “if you remember in the Bible the fivefold ministry Apostles, prophets,’ evangelists,’ pastors and teachers the five-fold ministry is there for the building up and the edification of the Saints it was never to be elevated it's the foundation of Christianity” Sorry, but the foundation is Jesus, Matthew 7:24, I Peter 2:7, not tongues, not prophecy, not healing, not pastors, not the Holy Spirit not anything except Jesus. He’s the way, the truth and the life, (John 14:6) and without him we are lost.

@@tomgrant1581. You’ve said you’ve watched many NDE and testimonies. Do you realize that the story is a testament to her life and will refer to herself as I, she, and me. It’s called a testimony. Also yes she is qualified to make this video because she had the experience and most people that do usually make a video about it. She’s not telling you what to do she’s reiterating her experience as the Lord told her to do so that you may learn but instead you got offended.

@@tomgrant158Mark 16:17

​@@MonicaA777Amen! Unfortunately, this guy sounds like he has quite a religious spirit that he's dealing with. He better be very very careful condemning and judging a woman of God without being led by the Holy Spirit...

@@tomgrant158Simon tried to buy the gift of impartation with money. Did the women in this video do that?

what psalm is that?

Wasn't that written before he was crucified?

Its good that you have that fear, keep working out your salvation with fear and trembling, take time each day to just be still in your thoughts with God, you are on the right path, and keep all of the Lords commandments and whatever certain sins are haunting you ask the Lords forgiveness each time you offend the Spirit and after time hating your sin and being serious with God ,well God willing you will overcome, strive to enter in..

Amen 🙏

Make the change! We all need to draw near. Our time is short!

2 Timothy 1:7 KJVS For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

I was thinking the same thing, I think she was using a demon to see into the spirit dimension as a “Seer”-she is using demonic forces to go into spirit world. She also never called the name of Jesus during her time in hell.

@@roniyoni2190exactly! I was wondering the same exact thing. Jesus is the ONLY Name that can save yet she didnt mention His Name.

Extremely possible a demon spirit can create visions of people being tortured to strike fear in man. Always worrying about one’s salvation

I would say and her prayer at the end seems insincere I'm just not buying the lose salvation. She's outright calling God a liar 😮 People can seem so Holy but what their holiness is in is their flesh not with a pure heart. A pure heart doesn't need to be demonized to believe they simply believe with childlike faith. Even Jesus said unless ue become like little children ye may not see the kingdom of God. The kingdom is within. He who is in us is greater than he who is in the world. Trust Jesus folks not what man or any other angel might think to trouble you and pervert the Gospel. 🙏💞😊👑

@@roniyoni2190 not true, she called out,.."Jesus have mercy on me" many times while in hell.

Correct❤

God knows the heart…only He can judge. It’s not our job to determine if someone is saved or not. Thst is between them and God

@@latehowie9671 why do u think there are prophets? And why God allows some people to visit hell or heaven? God never does anything for nothing. It is to bring us to the knowledge of truth, so that we dnt land in hell after death. So we need to take heed. That thing abt "judging" is only an excuse not to open ones eyes and start taking spiritual things seriously. When one is truely a prophet, he/she needs to point out the truth, to correct and to teach.

One cannot be un-reborn

​@@DavidNeal-mf9ky it means the person hasnt been born-again. No question of un-reborn. Either you are born-again or not.

I wonder what is going on inside of her head

I think there's a lot wrong here but part here was more just her stating a feeling more than fact.

The Lord brought her back to her body becoz it wasn’t her time. She is a messenger like many others; brought back to warn the world. However, if it’s your time to die ( you’re obviously NOT going to come back to your body), so that damnation in hell WILL be irreversible.

God has a way to get something across to your mind in a dream/ vision for you to get what it would mean. If He wants her to realize this would be forever, He knows how to get that across.

I thought the same exact thing.

Amen 🙏🏻

It is possible to lose your salvation cuz revelation 3:5 says Jesus does blot names out of the book of life. And your name isn’t in the book unless you get saved. But for that to happen, you’d have to backslide big time and not repent and give up on your walk and not run the race as the Bible says.

Great point!!@@FransceneJK98

@@FransceneJK98 that scripture has nothing to do with backsliders losing salvation , but in that scripture , Jesus is simply saying that because we have overcome ( overcome meaning faith not sinlessness ) then our names will never be blotted out of the book of life . its just another way of saying we are saved and considered overcomers because we BELIEVE , not because we have a near perfect record of sinlessness .

The road to heaven through Jesus is narrow. Dont be deceived that you can sin and repent anytime you want. That means you have it easy. I do believe that a lot of christians will be surprised where they end up because they dont want to carry the cross that is striving for righteousness. Not just living like the world and counting on being saved.

Wow what a beautiful humble heart. We should all be more like this.

If the Bible says one thing and this lady says something else, then who’s right? I’ve watched NDE videos before and they typically have a pattern which seems believable, but this one I question. Here’s why: 1. There’s a lot of ME (self) in this video, what I mean is “let me tell you how spiritual I am”, or “My husband has the gift of healing” or “I’m a Seer” or “I’ve been to Heaven” or “I’ve been in the Spirit”. I didn’t detect an ounce of humility in this woman’s testimony. In fact, if anything there’s 20 minutes of her hellish experience, and the rest of the time is her trying to convince me that she’s imminently qualified to make this video, and then telling me what I’m doing wrong in my Christian life. 2. This woman is more than likely a charismatic and charismatics have certain earmarks which identify them. Two of these earmarks stick out like sore thumbs in her testimony. First, Charismatics put prophecies and extra-biblical leadings on the same level as the written word of God. Second, they seek to be mystical and are not practical. To further explain, Charismatics are constantly having experiences, interpreting numbers, sequences, dreams, and visions in their lives and spiritualizing everything. This begins to take the place of scripture, soon after that every time you contract a common cold it’s God’s judgment, when it’s really not, it’s just an ongoing by-product of the fall of man from long, long ago. 3. Several times in this video my scripture alarm went off and I thought, “wait a minute, that’s not what the Bible says”. For example, when she talked about wanting the power of the spirit as a young woman at the 8-minute mark in the video, I immediately thought of Simon in Acts 8:9-21. Simon was born again, but he wanted power so badly he thought it could be purchased with money. He was wrong. Or at the 18-minute mark when she said “I went to hell as a born-again Christian”, well, either she’s wrong or the Bible is wrong. The Bible says in John 3:3-7, John 3:16, I Peter 1:23 that being born again is just that, being re-born into the family of God. At the 18:20 minute mark she states “A leader in the church” which flies in the face of I Timothy 2:12, at the 18:38 minute mark, I thought of Romans 3:10 and Isaiah 64:6. I’ll need to close here because if I don’t, I’ll be here all-night typing, but I’ll conclude with these thoughts. There is one thing that I find missing from this woman’s testimony, JESUS! When she decided she needed the power, was Jesus anywhere in there? At the 1:08 minute mark she states “if you remember in the Bible the fivefold ministry Apostles, prophets,’ evangelists,’ pastors and teachers the five-fold ministry is there for the building up and the edification of the Saints it was never to be elevated it's the foundation of Christianity” Sorry, but the foundation is Jesus, Matthew 7:24, I Peter 2:7, not tongues, not prophecy, not healing, not pastors, not the Holy Spirit not anything except Jesus. He’s the way, the truth and the life, (John 14:6) and without him we are lost.

She also is implying and saying that you need to DO certain things to not go to hell. A truly saved person won't go to hell. They are forgiven of ALL sins, past, present and future. I don't believe her. I will pray for her.

@@tomgrant158 notice her eyes as well looks up to the right a lot sign of lying and looking down to the left a sign of internal conversation such as rehearsing lines . Other people smile and calmly tell their story .

​@@tomgrant158 totally agree w you. She either made it up or dreamed it. Her statements are so so self righteous and judgemental.

​@@tomgrant158 I agree with you this testimony seems fishy

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She did. She said it was because of a works based salvation.

Yes good point…you know.. the Holy Spirit was trying to tell me not to watch this yesterday, I unfortunately ignored it, now this is going to bother me for a couple weeks….thanks lady lol

I could hear in her voice something was off. I also listened to the whole message. Felt a little manipulative , But just really couldn’t put my finger on it. The testimony turned into preaching. Julia’s face at the end 🤣 She is falling asleep.!!

Not doing what God told her to do

So she was doing a work for the Lord but it wasn't what HE WANTED HER TO DO??? Doesn't the WORD OF GOD tell us what to do? That's Him speaking....through his word. I heard a preacher say the same thing. He preached served, took orphaned children in but had a NDE and was sent to hell for doing a work for the Lord. Scripture ( which is God's word ) TELLS US to care for the widows and orphans, the poor etc... How is this not following what he said WHEN HE SAYS IT... IF IS WRITTEN.

YES SHE DID REPENT GO BACK TO YOUR FIRST LOVE .ASK THE LORD TO SHOW YOU ANYTHING HOLDING YOU BACK AND TAKE UP THE DEEP ROOTS TO DEEP ROOTED.ASK THE LORD TO SHOW YOU .REPENT DAILY REBUKE KNOWN AND UNKNOWN FAMILIAR SPIRITS 🙏🏼 DON'T SIN WILLINGLY.ASK THE LORD TO SHOW YOU REPENT AND GET IN YOUR SECRET PLACE WITH THE LORD

My thoughts exactly. Great mentor material!!

Amen, wake people up. Salvation is a personal relationship not religious. Romans 10:13 “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” John 1:12 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:”