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You didn't consider cargo delivery transportation infrastructure, didn't you? Yeah, you kinda need to actually have proper car connections so at least trucks could move things around. The pedestrian paths just weren't gonna cut it lol. And that's unfortunately not exactly a bug or feature, it's just kinda how you need to move goods irl. Like 1 cargo truck can move of like 100 cargo bikes worth of goods in one go or a single cargo train car's worth. You ironically didn't break anything, you just were skiping out on sadly essential infrastructure, lol. So to recap -Train, good. -Car, bad. -Cargo transport truck/semi/lori, ok but in small quantities.
20% game review 60% rant about the Hungarian railway 15% "f*ck cars, make cities walkable again" 5% making fun of the far-right twitter degens 100% perfection we need more let's plays like this!
Germans complain about DB and it's fair - when an organization doesn't meet your needs, the relative comparisons don't really matter. It is however true at the same time that a lot of countries around the world would kill for the level of service DB provides 😅
@@mishynaofficial Do you mean per side or in total? Two per side is fine (four total). Any more than that is really just induced demand, unless it's for easier on/off with extended sliproads.
@@JanTuts 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Shyt, I forgot this one and you actually got me laughing. Maybe it was the odd setting or whatever, but I actually got a solid laugh. Thanks!
@@bramvanduijn8086 That's not entirely true. In most cases in the US there is at least some type of bare-bones transit. In most cases (i.e. not Phoenix) these are remnants from a much larger transit system that can be ramped back up pretty quickly. The real problem is that we have such insane highway and auto infrastructure that it's still pretty functional even with massive restrictions. So people see that glimmer of hope and still try to drive places. They think that they can "sneak through." Consequently, they never learn the transit system and simply cannot conceive of ever using it. It's a massive cultural problem. I'll give you an example. In the Bay Area the locals are very used to transit. The whole place was built on rail and there's a longstanding tradition of using transit. But the Bay Area is like an early tech career merry-go-round. New people constantly move here to start their tech career and then retire back to wherever they're from in their late 30s/early 40s. The locals are perfectly fine taking the train if driving stops being an option for whatever reason. But all the non-locals who moved here from Wisconsin and Florida howl like there's no tomorrow. Sometimes the incessant whining is actually enough to force the local DOTs to reverse the changes. Meanwhile, the transit alternatives absolutely do exist. And due to Covid and WFH those alternatives have massive capacity reserves. But the Bay Area newbies cannot even conceive of using that transit. They don't know where the stops are. They don't know where it goes and doesn't go. They've never seen a map of the lines. It's kind of a crazy situation. They're like children in terms of transit use. You have to literally close a bridge or a highway for construction for a month just so that they have the incentive to learn about the transit options!
Yeah ngl that seems like a big oversight. Especially considering how 1: cycling is much more common now than 8 years ago when CS:1 was released, and 2: the fact that cycling was included in After Dark! The very first DLC for CS:1.
@@drdewott9154 it better be a free update, but the devs have been completely silent on it, and the first update is focused on water stuff, so they may not come until 2 years from now which is quite sad.
Kinda want a Cities Skylines 2 series of just you building an efficient city and explaining why you chose particular choices. Probably not your kind of content, but I would genuinely love to see one.
It would also be cool for him to continue the city review series. I've recently visited Barcelona and was super impressed by its compactness and walkability - with an efficient metro system, tree cover on almost every street, and many streets being either fully or semi pedestrianised (as in: cars are allowed, but at low speeds where it's the driver's responsibility to look out for pedestrians, not the other way). Compared to your average Irish city, the experience was unbelievable.
One youtuber who does this is donoteat01, he even did an entire series covering a fake american city from its Native American Village beginnings to modern day called Franklin
Ah, Denmark! This summer, I passed through on a train trip to Norway, and experienced it as the eldorado for the carless, but also had some funny adventures when things broke down. On my way there, my train from Hamburg had to stop at the border due to a catenary rupture near Vojens, but DSB's replacement diesel train was already waiting for us, and quickly eliminated the delay - until the driver forgot to stop at Nyborg and had to reverse (earning widespread laughter in the train). This delay left me with just half an hour for sight-seeing in Kopenhagen, which I used by riding the metro to and from Nyhavn with my big bag. I even had time for the detour from the station to the subway platforms via the street next to the central station (not finding the direct passageway), and could witness the insane amounts of parked bikes there - and attempted to imagine the space the equivalent amount of cars would have needed. On my way back, I was less lucky, as a train cancellation in Sweden snowballed into a four-hour delay by the time I arrived in Berlin, and over half of that came in Denmark. See arriving an hour late, the next connection to Hamburg wasn't direct but one with a change of trains in Fredericia with a 7-minute window. The ticket officer reassured me that there is absolutely no traffic problem on the network that day, and she was right, but DSB didn't calculate with the dozen members of a three-generation Danish family going on a bike holiday who took 6 minutes to disembark in Slagelse. Waiting for an on-time train from the other direction at a construction-related single-track section added 8 minutes, and the connecting train wouldn't wait for us in Fredericia. This time DSB organised a much slower replacement bus.
I am Australian and I lived in Copenhagen for three years. I can confirm that after driving everywhere in Australia, including down to the local shops, I was forced to ride a bike everywhere while in Denmark. It was terrible. I got excercise from just normal activity, I had to find something else to spend the thousands of kroner I would normally spend on transport and I had to wear a jacket to keep dry when it rained! I am still traumatised by the experience, so much so that I still ride my bike everywhere even though I no longer live in Denmark. Think I need therapy.
Adam just absolutely not holding back and naming the two main highway sections "The Minority Evictor" and "Fist of R. Moses" already makes this video legendary
You clearly don't know Americans or bureaucrats. As stated, it's obvious that she spent her time in her sheltered enclave or rich people and other bureaucrats.
There's multiple tiers of US ambassador. Tier one are the professionals, the career diplomats, they're sent where you need someone who can deal with a delicate, difficult or hostile environment and is good at politics. US Ambassador to China, Russia, Vietnam, Israel, Saudi Arabia and the likes. Tier two are ambassadors who get a cushy end-of-career posting. Think basically the Caribbean, the South Sea, Canada and other areas of low importance and/or low chance of the ambassador needing to do anything that can't be taken care of by other people. Tier three ambassadors are appointees to important allied nations. France, Britain, Germany, Japan, South Korea, Italy, Turkey, Greece and increasingly Poland. Those can be career diplomats or a reward posting for a campaign contributor and you have a decidedly mixed quality of appointees there. Tier four are reward ambassadorships, they go to campaign contributors and cronies and generally put them in an ambassadorship in a country that isn't too important but is still looking good to have been ambassador there. Which is basically small Western European nations who get saddled with such people as ambassadors. Tier five ambassadors are basically sent to places like Madagascar, the CAR and other such places, it's basically a posting no one is too enthusiastic about. Spending four years as the ambassador to Madagascar or Malawi isn't going to open you many doors. It's basically a posting for younger careerists or for those who have a deep interest in the place they're being sent to.
From her (former ambassador Sands) Wikipedia page: “A former chiropractor, socialite, and actress,[4] Sands married business executive Fred Sands in 1999. Following his death in 2015, she succeeded him as chair and CEO of Vintage Capital Group. During Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, she was an economic advisor to Trump[5] and a major donor to his campaign and inaugural committee.” Explains a lot. Usually our ambassadors are A) actually qualified and B) actually interested in forming good relationships with their host countries. E.g. the guy before her (Rufus Gifford): “In his capacity as the Ambassador, he helped modernize the transatlantic relationship through youth engagement and institution-building, among other bilateral and global issues. He outlined a diplomatic strategy that prioritized non-traditional audiences and people-to-people relationships. As part of a never-before-seen public diplomacy strategy,[9] he was the subject of the documentary series I am the Ambassador. The documentary TV series about his life as an ambassador ran for two seasons,[10] winning the Big Character award at the 2015 TV-Prisen award-show. As Ambassador, he traveled to Greenland for bilateral meetings on climate change, promoted counter-extremism initiatives and Danish-American trade, and worked to maintain Danish military support in Iraq and Afghanistan. In 2016, he accompanied U.S. Secretary of Transportation Anthony Foxx, several American mayors (including current U.S. Secretary of transportation Pete Buttigieg), as well as Danish Transport Minister Hans Christian Schmidt on a bike ride around Copenhagen to showcase its success as a "cyclist-friendly city." And “On January 16, 2017, Gifford was awarded the Grand Cross of the Order of the Dannebrog by Her Majesty Queen Margrethe II of Denmark for his "meritorious service to the Kingdom of Denmark."[17]
Countries usually only send competent ambassadors to countries they have a vested interest in. The rest get sent bumbling sycophants who are owed a favour from the ruling party.
I'd 100% watch you do a full lets play series of you turning a city into the most car free utopia possible (that he game would allow you to make)...obviously will political and social rants peppered throughout.
Yes please, Adam please stream on twitch or something, let us listen to you not being held back by silly RU-vid algorithms while you play City Skylines.
2:07 As a person who has lived in Denmark her whole life, I like that I don't have waste money on a car and license to get where I need to. Surprise, but it's actually really nice to have all necessities within a short, walkable distance, and being able to get everywhere else with public transportation and/or bike
@@porcus123 Not in my case; my anxiety would never let me be okay behind the wheel of a car. Besides, why would I ever want to vacation somewhere where cars would be my only source of transportation? That sounds like it would just be horrible in general
@@porcus123 Why would I take a vacation to an isolated spot like that? There would be nothing to do or see. If you're talking about a place where you live generally instead of a vacation spot, you can just bike around for short distances, and bike to the nearest station/bus stop
They didn't say, but the US Embassy to Denmark is about a hundred meters from Østerport, one of the key stations in downtown Copenhagen. It is a station for the S-trains, metro, and regional trains, as well as the train to Sweden. Many buses also stop there. If the US ambassador's driver was riding for an hour in the snow rather than taking the train, that was a choice. As a real-life example, I live a bit outside of kbh. and it would take me about 45 minutes to get to the US embassy by bus and train. During most of it, I would be sitting in a climate controlled train watching a show or reading a book. If I chose to ride to the embassy, Google predicts it would take an hour and a half, so we can conclude the the driver lives closer to the embassy than I do, so the commute by public transportation would take less time. But, yeah, one of the issues is also that Americans view doing anything that isn't climate controlled as a nightmare. We've worked ourselves into a tizzy about getting hit with a single drop of rain or the tinest bit of sweat. Many Americans are baffled that my family don't have a car. They'll say things like, "How do you get your groceries?" And I'll say, "I have a bike trailer." Then they ask about the snow, and I say that bike lanes in Denmark are given priority to be de-iced, the same priority as the motorways, so it's like asking how do you drive when it snows. Then they ask what happens when I'm sick or whatever, and I tell them that I can also get groceries delivered, and that the bike trailer also fits on my wife's bike. It is clear that many of them don't want to believe that it is possible to live without a car in a modern, industrialized city.
Trust Adam Something to turn a fun sponsored City Skylines project into a scathing critique of Hungarian and Serbian corruption and the dangers of Chinese loans. Literally stunned rn.
He breaks the game. But made me much more likely to buy the game, because there's clearly been some effort to cater for city designs that are not car centric.
I'm from Hungary, and I have experienced the chaos on the Budapest-Vienna line due to this ad-hoc total renewal, and it's even worse than Adam says. Of course, they didn't consider people who reserved seats in advance. I reserved a seat on a train to Vienna about three weeks before it started, but had to re-schedule all my connecting trains. (And I was smart enough to expect an arrival an hour late.) They actually set up a plan for the express trains to arrive in Vienna on time (with early departures), but they could not keep that schedule, at all. It seems party because there were constant mishaps on the works (like accidentally cutting high-voltage lines), and partly because there was an entirely to be expected "traffic jam" for freight trains. I observed the way they did the job from the train during the first week. They started all the various work at the same time but in different locations. So at one location, they started with ballast replacement under the old track, at another, they changed the rails & sleepers on top of the old ballast, elsewhere they first went for the signals, yet again elsewhere they started with cutting back the shrubbery. Domestic trains are replaced with buses on the affected section. During the first week, some buses got lost and drivers had to ask passengers for directions. No wonder because they had to find some 200 drivers (& buses) all across the country, when there are manpower shortages due to bad pay.
the only problem with small shops and farmers markets is that I always spend too much money because omg the nice old lady is selling curd balls? (btw ... really? curd balls? thats the english word xD that makes it sound disgusting)
Also small shops waste more food, they don't have the JIT capability and the turnover of fresh produce to make sure we can get unrotten food. I remember the days when my mum used to shop at the local shops. The food was far worse than the produce I can pick up today. so much of it used to end up being chucked out at the end of the day, i think they used to give it to farmers to feed to pigs. The way we used to do things wasn't always better than today. But I do understand your aversion to big corporations and the control they exert over everyday life. But then again I couldn't order almost anything I want and have it in my hands the next day. Delivery times of 2 weeks to months would be the order of the day or even go and collect after they ordered it a few months ago and left it unforgotten in the storage room for a few weeks/months
As a former houstonian, i would pay any amount of money to get to witness the rage and confusion around the roadways being reduced to 20% while everyone struggles to figure out how a train works
I can see how the tongue-in-cheek joke of: "the government of Poland is 5 years behind Hungary's and Hungary's is 10 years behind Russia's" came about with this pretty poignant rant. Luckily, it seems like Poland decided to roll the clock back for 4 years so we'll be 9 years behind Hungary and 19 years behind Russia :p
Man nice on you for bringing up the whole Carla Sands ratio, like man that was quite a moment! And like Benny was a good minister for transport. Not perfect, he was still a tad too car brained and highway happy (and rather wanting a branch line railway replaced with a busway instead of funding long overdue maintenance) but he was the most transit supportive minister we've had in a long time. Heck when the electric wires on the railway to Næstved got turned on he even drove the inaugural electric train. The 2 subsequent ministers after him have both been disasters. Also yeah Sands definitely wasn't very participating in Danish stuff nor tried at all to get acquainted with the country. She was basically the exact opposite of the former Ambassador Rufus Gifford. Rufus was well known and is still highly adored by many Danes. He was always engaging with the public and getting a feel for the local opinions and ways of doing things. He took his job as Ambassador and went a step above. It was even made more famous by the fact that Danish public TV network DR made a documentary series following Rufus's affairs called "I am the Ambassador" which can also be watched abroad via Netflix.
This kind of shows the one issue I have with Cities Skylines, the game's great but it's heavily focused on creating US-style cities (though with less car parking required) and it's difficult to make a more compact European or East Asian-style one.
Yeah game is out now and its more like a suburb builder, there’s literally only demand for low density homes. I’m trying to up land value but you cant even do that by providing good city services or transportation connenctions, no it mostly gets raised by commercial zones. Which yeah are nice but i’d rather drive a bit further for new clothes than drive an hour to elementary school. This focus is also so weird considering this is a European game developer. Bikes aren’t even included which would render cars even less essential.
@@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger i think that sentiment applies to people from most places i mean, whenever places like Finland or Brazil get mentioned on youtube, people from those countries just go wild
I rode the Vienna-Budapest line about 2 days before it closed. No warning lol, I had no clue it was closing until after we took the train. The ÖBB rail jet engine ditched us just across the Hungarian border and a MAV engine hopped on. Speed was cut in half but honestly it wasn't that bad, still ~90km/h. It's not like there were chickens and donkeys in the train cars with you. And there were still multiple tracks in operation so trains could pass each other easily, stations all seemed to have through tracks too. Amtrak is a really, really low bar to clear 🥲. If Hungary does actually finish the Vienna line in the time frame they claim it will be impressive, seeing as most of the tracks in the North East US are 120 years old and the bridges are held up by only a thick layer of rust. I will say, the MAV website was miserable. Czech Railways and ÖBB were much easier.
I love the way you managed to get that rant decrying the corruption of Orban's regime in a sponsored video.Paradox looked at it and said 'yeah, it's true, he sucks' and green lit it.
I'm actually laughing my ass off. In a random video about what is happening in Hungary, I have actually found out the actual costs of that railway project, which is kept hush-hush in my country of Serbia. Cheers, man.
Fun fact, before Carla Sands was a bad ambassador, she was a bad actress. She starred the absolute cinematic masterpiece Deathstalker and the Warriors From Hell.
Talk about "draining the swamp", the opposite happened with her, she literally bought herself that position - using her dead husbands money.
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I LOVE that you spoke about the Serbia - Budapest train connection. A similar "game" regarding the Chinese constructor and who's put in charge with it is happening on our side.
@ I da je ovaj kredit za Madjare isao preko EU, svakako mislim da bi Madjari odabrali opciju da im voz ide 160km/h jer od Kelebije do Budimpeste nema vecih gradova, da kazem tom linijom nema nista. A da bi na njihovom delu vozovi isli 200km/h potrebno je da su pruge denivelisane, sto se njima realno i ne isplati jer mi barem spajamo prvi, drugi i peti grad po velicini
I've lived in Houston Since 1979 and I would ABSOLUTELY love it if I could have working public transit. I travel quite a lot for work and for fun and I love ther public transit in most of the cities I have been to. Especially London and Paris. But, we don't have that here so I am stuck.
Fun Fact: I think things like public transit is a good thing, yet again, the "car perfect, walking, biking, and public transit abhorrent" mentality is more of a conservative and maybe even a republican opinion, yes, I'm from the USA, but the need for a car is confusing at best at times for relatively short distances. This country needs to take a few pages out Europe's book. Btw, I can understand the want to have your own vehicle, but it isn't needed unless it is for very long distances that are hard to get to by train or flight.
As a hungarian, it's so funny to listen back the news about the hungarian state railways on this channel! If my job was to install the signaling system onto a rail line, I would surely ask whether it's a maglev or a narrow gauge forest railway, regardless of what I have in my country...
The whole thing about the Hungarian infrastructure and bureaucracy corruption reminds me of what's going on in South Africa where the ANC is just funneling government money to private benefactors under state-owned contractors.
One of the main reasons I moved away from Houston and moved to Dallas, was the carelessness of many Houston drivers (where stopping at red lights is considered by many as optional).
Funny that you mentioned the Budapest - Belgrade line. I work for a Czech railways signals company, and it looks like we will probably be delivering the ETCS to this railway. I didn't know that originally the Chinese were supposed to build the ETCS system there, and it seems absurd to me, since it takes years to develop it and get it certified, the regulations are very strict.
Totally not far right people: I don't agree with all of Viktor Orban's policies, but he cares about his people! Viktor Orban totally caring about his people: taking a comically lopsided deal with China that will definitely work out in Hungary's interest.
Így vissza hallani angolul az ország helyzetét eléggé durva reality checket tud adni nekem aki már megszokta, hogy még a poloskát is az ablakról lenyúlja a kormány 🙃
Holy shit. Amtrak certainly has its problems, but at least it’s not Hungarian Railways. America’s most important rail route is the Northeast Corridor (NEC), and while it is also getting lots of work done on it, you can still rely on Amtrak for fast and efficient travel on it and expect to get to your destination either on time or less than 10 minutes late with only a few exceptions (specifically, long distance trains from outside the NEC tend to be delayed before they reach the NEC, and sometimes old swing bridges get stuck open. And Amtrak is working on replacing the old bridges and making freight companies give better priority to passenger trains)
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main reason I don't like cities skylines (or, previously, the simcity series) is because of the car centrism and grid-only cities they allow. I'll start playing when I can replicate a city like Amsterdam or Prague.
God I wish California hurried up with better public transit being to Japan truly spoiled me as I love walking to places and not having to drive at all was a god send.
Fun fact, Houston has no zoning laws. Yeah seriously no zoning. Build a house next to a church, a car dealership and across the street is a restaurant and a strip club. That deserves a video of its own.
5:00 Hi there, on the Serbian side, things are not better either. Belgrade has this pseudo-metro which as such served citizens to quickly traverse large distances. However, when this rail became a thing, they have decided to scrap one track of this metro, refurbish it into the this Chinese rail while pseudo-metro was now servicing citizens of Belgrade every 60 minutes in overcrowded wagons which are hard to have a breath in the summer as the AC unites were scrapped from the train. I don't have exact numbers here but the loan taken from China on the Serbian side is much worser than the loan offer from the EU.
So that's why there was so much chaos around the Railjets coming from Budapest when I landed in Vienna on Oct 6th. Was just trying to get to Salzburg but the schedule in that direction was all messed up and inside the trains it didn't show seat reservations and station info.
Mods would be nice but it seems that Paradox is not going to allow Steam workshop support and is going to force you to use their website to download mods. Not sure how well that’s going to go.
Wow. Pretty sure that would kill any interest I had in the game if Paradox's launcher nonsense and subsequent treatment of players of Cities Skylines 1 (not to mention other screw ups since) hadn't already convinced me not to buy anything they publish quite some time ago.
I don't have a problem with public transit as an American. It's just the large amount of homeless people that get on without paying to escape the heat, and the crime on it that makes me not want to have anything to do with it.
Do Nashville! We’re like Huston if it only started getting big 10 years ago, made a promising metro line proposal 5 years ago, rejected it (b/c Red state w/ Red suburbs), and is now suffering the consequences. Traffic has already made the city borderline unlivable, and it’s quickly becoming worse with no end in sight.
Finally, this is the first creator I've seen to make a fully pedestrianized city in early access cities skylines 2. Now I'm glad to know this game allows them.
Talk about how car dependent los Angeles is that the i10 freeway closure has caused a state of emergency and proves how car dependent they are since they seem incapable of functioning without a small section of a freeway
Does induced demand work for busses and trains as well? like the more busses and trains there are the more likely people will be taking busses and trains?
It definitely should work, if you think about it: The two main critisisms of public transit are having to share small spaces with other people, and having to time your trip so that you don't miss the connection you need and have to wait a long time for the next one. Put more buses or trains on a line and you get much shorter waiting times between the individual vehicles, drastically reducing the latter bad side. Especially with buses and trams its quite easy to have them go every 5-10 minutes even with relatively small populations, at which point you don't really need to think about the timetable at all. A couple of examples from places I've lived in, a suburb of 15k people has a central bus line to downtown of a city of 180k people every 10 minutes and two edge lines every 15 minutes, and a 25k people suburb of a city of 220k people has a tram every 6-8 minutes (I can't remember precicely) and a total of 6 bus lines all going every 10-15 minutes. Going to downtown with a car while living there didn't feel necessary at all, the travel time was essentially the same in both places.
Higher frequency definitely matters. Also, a regular clockface schedule, which is easier to remember for people. But it's less automatic, there are a lot of planning details which can kill demand if you get it wrong, resp. you get good demand if you pay attention: station placement, pedestrian access, connections with other public transport modes, the schedule of those connections, ticketing, information systems, maintenance, cleanliness, public safety, and so on. There is a branchline near Stuttgart that was closed for passenger traffic in the 1960s and re-started at the initiative of local governments in the 1990s where ridership beat even the rosiest expectations by a crazy amount. Two key things they did was to re-arrange bus lines as feeders with well-adjusted schedules, and change lecture/work hours at schools and big businesses next to the line to fit the train schedule.
There is one case of induced demand which is special to high-speed rail. There are some leftist or green critics of high-speed rails who argue that money should be spent on commuter rail projects instead. This always annoys me greatly because it is based on a false conception of government investment sums as fixed and conflates local and long-distance forms of transport. But in reality, HSR stations often inspire the speed-up of transit projects in areas where they are underdeveloped. Good examples are the metro and light-rail networks that sprang up in cities along Taiwan's THSR and cities of mainland China.
This video felt like an advert with a small comment about hungarian politics added in to try and add some actual content. I really don't think this is Adam's best work.
Good question. But honestly i dont see them as anything other then gigachads or crackheads (man, there is like 0`C outside with 90% humidity, what are you doing?)
Inspired by this video, I think I will make a disaster mod for C:S2, but instead of a hurricane or Godzilla destroying the city, it is Victor Orban destroying your city's economy. Everything will cost five times as much to build, and 90 % of your tax income will mysteriously disappear.