Cookiex792 here. I just want to say that having inadvertedly contributed to one of my favorite channels on RU-vid with my original reddit post has really brightened my whole week, and I want to go as far as thank Marcel for proving me wrong in my original assumption. I assumed Flaming Fury just by itself wasn’t going to be enough, but that could’ve been based on me misremembering how guest generation exactly worked and how a long queue and a ton of entertainers was important for guest retention. Either way, I really want to again thank Marcel for making this video. It is an honor to be featured in it.
previous parks: imagine being locked at the top of a broken Ferris wheel for years... this park: imagine running a 10k, while being cheered on by friendly mascots and soothing visuals to your left and right, and a fun-as-hell rollercoaster ride at the end. this is easily the least dystopian park Marcel has put together 10/10 would go to this gym in real life
You're not walking a 10K, though. You're walking a 1m ten thousand times. Over the course of many years. Without food or drink. If anything, at least it will make you lose weight.
I never liked it when in RCT3 and Planet coaster, the mechanics have to get to the ride via the queue, since in 99% that's going to be a much longer walk and thus causes a much longer downtime...
"I don't know which guest tortured us by leaving at just the wrong time but I hope they burn in hell" Marcel's sadism and hatred towards RCT guests has seemingly no limit.
He should have checked for guests leaving the park at the tail end of this scenario and stranded them on a mountain. You can't convince those guests to stay once they've made their mind, but you can stop them from leaving, and you have a window of time before their bitchiness affects your park rating. I do this all the time with guests who don't pay me.
@@Kalvinjj No, since by then they're out of the park boundaries and therefore outside of the terrain that you can modify (by using water, for example). The key is to monitor your guests and act before they leave the park (but when they're thinking of doing so).
Eventually Marcel is going to get to the point where he can beat every scenario on a freshly-installed copy of the game without actually turning the computer on.
I mean, you can do that with notepad, a good memory, and connecting the hard drive to two computers at once via a splitter, technically. Alternatively, maybe punchcard entry for commands? Punch out the instructions to write a save file to disk, load it up in a hopper, then switch the computer on to prove that it worked?
I have a feeling that even though the queue was way longer than needed, it actually helped in the end. Every time some lazy bastard gets in line, the time he takes to get to the end of the queue and the number of people he ends up holding up behind him is higher than what it would be with a shorter line. It's possible that this helped combat the fact that Flaming Fury has such a high throughput. Would be an interesting experiment to retry it with both a shorter and longer queue line to see if this actually has an impact on the overall guest throughput.
Vos our Great Leader guides us. Vos our Great Leader protects us. Vos our Great Leader saves us from our self. Vos our Great Leader is infallible. Vos our Great Leader is eternal. Hail Vos Hail Vos Hail Vos
"With the mechanic locked up..." "I don't know which guest tortured us by leaving the park at just the wrong time, but I hope they burn in hell." "You would expect us to need to use slaves or something for this..." "In fact it's the goodness they have for their family who might not survive if they don't do exactly as I say." I am now convinced that Marcel is an absolute dictator and a psychopath, and I am unsure of how to feel about that.
We like to think otherwise, but in the end, humans are just another lump of matter and energy. We abide the same laws as everything around us. We are but the results of generations of self-replication, which itself only occurs because it has't stopped. Even our minds are but an emergent property of our brains. Marcel knows this. He knows that his guests and staffs are mere byproducts of nature. That they're driven by instinct alone. He treats them accordingly, for he himself has no instinct for favoring those who are unable to punish or reward him.
"The guest at the front of the group is always some lazy bastard that can't be bothered to walk faster..." Something tells me that it's not so much his fault as it is the guy behind him that refuses to give him a kick in the pants, making everyone else behind them suffer.
If you liked this video, you can watch this one next, which is a different take on the same challenge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kKjombONOE0.html
Hey now, the last two videos have been nothing but information. I try to do a mix of both now, although I will eventually run out of information topics.
What happens to the guest "bathroom" needs in a long queue line? Does the thirst, food and bathroom meter pause when they are in line? It seems like one of these should/would make them leave the line especially if they eat before getting in line. Chris missed an opportunity for realism there LOL
Marcel Vos, Extreme Heights Park Manager: _"Here in Extreme Heights money is no object, which is why all our staff are happy to volunteer their time without pay, they don't need to break their backs earning a steady income to keep their families safe, because we do that for them, we're all one big family & in this Extreme Heights family we don't believe in slavery but we do believe in extortion."_
RCT lore deepens, as we learn that parks with no money operate under statute corvee labour. All hail emperor Marcel Vos, lord of the coasters, and wielder of the disappearing paths!
it would be cool if the soft guest cap was influenced by the length of the roller coasters somehow instead of just their presence. have mr bones' wild ride draw 10,000 guests or whatever
The Marcel Science Roller Coaster-aided Enrichment Center is required to remind you that Park Employee Hell is a real place where you will be sent to at the first sign of defiance.
8:05 Nice to see everyone joining in the plaza dance party! The entertainers are dancing in costume and the guests are dancing in vain to find a bathroom.
ok so you said something about the reliability status, can you maybe make a video about that and how it gets calculated? is it only depending on age? and how can i then take counter measures? because yeah i get that the age of a coaster leads to it being broken more often, but there has to be a mechanism to counter that, since the ride ticket price calculation also changes after a certain age and the ride gets its iconic status because of its age. is there a way to get an iconic coaster with a high reliability status? i think that would be an awesome topic for a video! :D
I'd love to see a follow up to this to see what kind of insane queue you could fill... theoretically this method is infinitely scalable, correct? Just keep running it and build a line that goes across the entire map.
this channel is awesome, wish these videos were around when i was a kid! i grew up playing rct2 and 3 but i liked 3 more because i thought the scenarios in 2 were too hard and i liked the 3d camera better in 3 hahah . as an adult i want to try playing these games again and doing challenges like this, the original roller coaster tycoon series are such well designed games: the fact that they are still interesting to play and people are still trying new things in them all these years later is proof. keep up the fun and creative videos!!! :D
Nieuwe uitdaging: splash boat: na de drop direct lifthill en terug naar station: ze zijn hierdoor weer zo snel terug bij station dat er een bizarre capaciteit ontstaat. Mij lukte het nooit om genoeg publiek te trekken om een wachtrij te laten groeien, zelfs niet met ingang tegenover uitgang (grootste mogelijkheid dat gasten nog een keer gaan, en alle campagnes op deze attractie) Nu mag de meester het een keer proberen :) Dus: na station direct 2x bocht, drop, direct lift, terug naar station en maximum aantal boten! Succes Marcel 😃
En misschien de uitdaging iets breder trekken: wat is de maximale capaciteit die je kunt bereiken per uur? (Monorail pendelen met lange trein op een klein stukje moet ook bizar veel gasten per uur er doorheen kunnen jagen… ;) zo iets?
I would go with Double Trouble from Crumbly Woods in RCT1. I love the look of massive wooden coasters and this being a dueling Mobius loop pushes it to the top for me.
The angry Marcel at the end lol If the queue line weren't longer, I think the throughput would've been higher and thus the scenario take longer, if possible at all. No?
I always thought 1 queue tile could hold up to 5 guests, so you could use that to work out how many tiles would be needed to hold exactly 4500 and then add more tiles to hold a number of guests equal to the maximum capacity of the ride. But since you don't have to worry about money in this scenario, there's no harm in going overboard.
These challenges are so enjoyable to watch. You should do a death park challenge. Create are rides that kill people but also keep a high park ratio and or guest count
Yes this would be a great watch. With Marcel narrating why he's doing what he's doing, what strategies he's employing or quirks he's exploiting - and skipping ahead for sections where nothing's happening - many scenarios would probably be beaten pretty quick and it'd be fun to watch
Every week I'm like:"He cannot find any more content to make another video." Then I am regularly shown that I'm wrong. I have an idea for a video aswell: The math of reliability of attractions, as I don't understand what it means. It clearly cannot mean that it is the chance that it breaks down times (100%-reliability) on the next ride as 0% is an option as you showed, but I also cannot come up with what it actually means.
4:55 - Realistic Also I was that "Lazy Bastard" on my last ride on July 15th - In my defense there were people I found "Sus" in front on me and young teens behind me and I didn't want those people behind me get hurt if I was right
This is making me come up with another possible challenge: how hard is it to beat Dusty Greens or Botany Breakers - scenarios that are dependent on ride tickets - with only 1 ride?
Now I want to see a park that is nothing but queue line and a single ride at the end plus somehow making the queue line full. Just how many people can you get waiting for a single ride?
Do not know about coasters, but having such a long queue line for a toilets, I would join it again happily in such park even when have had just came out of a bathroom...
