Even if I don’t win I literally love stressing my opponent out with skill drain. A lot of them literally have no idea what to do when skill drain is up. It’s hilarious.
That version of the infinite negate loop was def more interesting than the other Tomahawk-based ones I've seen floating around. Cool to see Lunalight Tiger and Cyber Dragon Infinity added onto the already insane monstrosity.
One thing I will say about the tomahawk based ones, is that i learned about the pile+tempest engine from an *ojama* player, who also also had ojama based combos to get into simorgh using harpie conductor as a bridge. Infinity + infinite negate may be bad, but I've seen end boards with the infinite, apollousa, and A to Z. Scary shit
This combo was actually used in the TCG years ago and was a big reason for Lunalight Tiger's ban. The problem is that the deck is super fragile and has several easy to deal with choke points.
IO says "Negate all Spell effects on the field." I think the chat commenter was thinking Duster could resolve by chaining Droplet, sending Duster to the GY for Droplet's cost, and choosing to negate Heavenly Prison. Duster would no longer be "on the field" to have its effect be negated by IO. Droplet would be negated, but maybe Duster wouldn't?
@@jayfrasier7040 That's not how it works. Duster's effect would still be an "effect on the field" since effects resolve in the location they're activated in, even if the physical card isn't in that location anymore. The reason Skill Drain works differently is because it specifically negates the effects of "face-up monsters" so the monster still needs to be face-up on the field in order for Skill Drain to negate it.
The amount of people being dumb/not reading/not knowing how card interactions work this time around was insane. Were are such people coming from? It's like they crawl out of the depths of their boulders they were living in, go on through an internet journey until they find Twitch and just write random bs at the first streamer they see before getting back to where they came from.
The confusion stems from Imperial saying it negates EFFECTS not ACTIVATION and also specifies on FIELD like skill drain. So duster and droplet send duster Io negate droplet Duster resolve in grave (io says spell effects on field) that's definitely how it is with skil drain Lmao I do it alot with my hero monsters Against skill drain The only difference being that skill drain also adds while they are faceup on field? So io isn't as specific as skill drain ? So it's stronger? Then why does io even mention field? So spells that start activations in grave will work ?
Omfg time thief stealing the droplet of the top of his deck 😂😂 I can’t stop laughing. I swear sometimes it feels like some bored konami employees be messing with us
That guy who was telling Coder to Duster while IO and a counter trap were on the field probably looked at the infinite negate combo and was like, why did you let the Redoer take your droplet? Why didn’t you draw it?
Lmao I literally JUST finished talking to my coworkers about how Yu-Gi-Oh actively siphons your ability to read and then this vid shows up today, I'm dying here.
3:40 If you chain droplet sending your own whale as cost, pop IO and Sycthe, scythe blocks and you live, he is under skill drain so he can't liebe for game, if he tries to send drain to summon lord you have called by lol
The last duel is the reason i, as a lunalight player myself, am totally fine with tiger being at 1. And because it's no problem in the ocg there's so way they will errata it to make it less abusable in non-lunalight decks.
I can feel the pain coming through my screen when Twitch chat says 0 IQ stuff without reading what is currently happening. At least it makes content lmao
Holy shit my brain rots from the lack of thinking of twitch chat. I mean the duster chain droplets guy was obviously thinking but just didn't know how that ruling works.
honestly not sure why more people hadnt figured this out. Thunderbird and apex avian were some of my go to cards for the yugioh word championship games
So for the people confused on the ruling of the feather duster, droplet and Io, it goes like this. Io is activated and resolved on the field. If Coder tried to use the feather duster and chained the droplet to send the duster, it would be negated due to the feather duster activating and resolving on the field. It is not tied to the location of the duster when it resolves. To get around this issue you would rather need an MST or Twin Twisters so that you could chain to the IO and pop it before the effect of IO is resolved. Apologies if I got anything wrong here. I'll update it if I did.
Commenting here to confirm that what you just said is indeed 100% correct. Feather Duster's effect location is not tied to where the physical card is on resolution. 👍
@@KoalaInMexico you clearly didn't read Duster and your own sentence properly. Duster is not a quick-play spell so it cannot stop IO before the effect is resolved. Once IO is resolved, Duster effect to wipe spell&trap is negated by IO cause IO effect is already resolved on the field.
@@KoalaInMexico it makes sense exactly because IO reads "Negate all Spell Card effects on the field." which means it doesn't matter where HFD itself is located, because IO checks where the effect is resolving, and the place where an effect resolves doesn't change during a chain : it's even shown in video games with the chain marker in the S/T zone
You see, I think most of these players in the chat don’t seem to realize this despite watching coder, but there is, and I know this might shock you, a database for rulings. I know. Crazy.
I know that feeling when lava golem hit!, that feeling when you got such a good board to just get scummed.. It's more and more, ftk network or spright lock and runick or only be one. Gets dull, I like when people just play decks they like, I hate how one sided ranked is
The guys who kept saying "use Duster" are peak Duelists. After all not reading what cards do so the opponent can explain what his cards do is the first hand peak experience of Yu-Gi-Oh.
if you saved the fusion monster after I.o left the field you could of summoned a fusion monster in defence and droplet him when he attacked and he'd of took 200 damage and you'd of won.
You actually could have used Duster with IO on board by using Droplet to send it to the grave as chain link 2. I would have to analyze the replay several times, but I don't think it would have really made much of a difference
aha, little did coder know that that was not an infinite negate, you just got to get over infinity and 1 negate, since if they bounce back the other mist, they cannot summon it back
When skill drain got activated, you could have dropplet the Wale to let it resolve and pop either Drain or IO depending on what you wanted, and pop your own scythe to tank the battle phase
or he could do Duster -> Chain Link 2 Droplet and send Duster as cost, since Duster no longer will be on the field at the resolution all spell/trap would be destroyed
As a lover of Penguins- while you are committing the ultimate sin of using penguin gardens to search whats ostensibly not really a penguin card, i am happy to see the niche application of a penguin card xD
Skill Drain + IO(and similar cards like ASF) should not be allowed to co-exist. Pick one or the other to ban if you need a floodgate to be playable. Also IO needs YET ANOTHER ERRATA if they want to bring that off, like requiring the cards to actually be on the field so that you can do that Droplet for cost thing that I WISH was how the card worked.
Well..... Now you see why people can't READ In between cards that are Activates If both Skill Drain & Imperial order is on the field you're technically lock from monster effect (Skill Drain) & spells (Imperial Order) The only way to stop that is actually play Jinzo (it's still disabled if Skill Drain is active first) or Royal Decree (which will locks you too from Using Traps but you're free with the other), but the problem is...... It's actually hard to have a space for those two cards SO AGAIN, LOOK AT YOUR SCREEN FIRST, THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY HELP THEM WITH WHAT YOU CAN DO!!!!!
At 10:58 you were wrong, he did not have infinite negates set up. He already had 5 monsters on field, and the equipped monster needs to summon itself for the infinite negates to be live
This is why I just watch the duels and not try and give advice on what to do during some streams, because I don't want to be added to the chat's singular braincell. Also because I am not a professional Duelist.
