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Bentleys and Rolls Royces of that era. leaked fluid even when brand new. I was at the Rolls/Bentley dealer, getting my Sterling 825S serviced, and noticed a technician building Lucite trays. I asked him what they were for, and he said "catching all the leaks!" Since this dealer also sold pre-owned vehicles that were often in the showroom, I asked "Oh, for the used cars?", and he said, "No, the new ones."
mis-fire on Bentley: Sometimes the ignition "module" develops a bad ground connection. irc it appears to be well grounded mounted on distributor, but in fact isn't. run a grounded wire to the ignition module's gnd connection. I have fixed RR's with no spark this way and I know they sell a kit in th uk to fix this.
Ryan Shaw it’s the dumbest thing on the planet to buy older German luxury sedans. Literally the dumbest thing a person might do. Except for manufacturing meth maybe.
Greetings from Germany, Listening to that 500e gearbox, i would suspect that the pressure plates inside are not properly installed. But thats just a guess
I dont know man, hopefully there is No damage to the housing, in that case he is majorly f***ed. Looked it up yesterday a replacement gearbox for this car is around 4000 euros here in Germany.
Hi, I had exactly this misfire with my Turbo R. Turned out to be the mechanical fuel injection pump needed a tweak, it was done by ear using the centre adjustment screw by a 65-70 year old Bentley tech at the local dealer who did his apprenticeship on these engines, also swapped the plugs for copper core and said don’t fit anything else! Been perfect since. Hope this helps?? Keep up the content. Love the channel. Rob from the U.K. if not sell me the Bentley!
Pardon my ignorance but if the mechanical fuel injection pump needed adjustment and the misfire only shows up past 2k.. does that indicate a lean (or perhaps rich I guess?) condition which caused the misfire, NOT an electrical pulse / ignition issue?
Bruh239 I’m not an expert on the system, but I’ve worked on a few Over the years, they are very sensitive to adjustment of the automated enrichment, so effectively we are speculating that an over rich or over lean is causing the misfire as the engine changes speed. This can also be caused by wear to the pump over the years. A slight enrichment hides the lower pressure now produced through wear. The Merc’s used to suffer exactly the same issues using the same system.
Hey Hoovie! Regarding that Mercedes 500e. That noise sounds very similar to the noise my 2005 w203 made after getting brand new engine and transmission mounts. The cause was the new Corteco mount for the trans was not sitting properly and torqued its self crooked causing a whirling noise and premature trans mount failure. I thought the worst however putting a new factory Mercedes trans mount which was about $65 solved the whirling noise for me. Might want to ask your shop just to swap out the mount.
James Kerherve Good to know then. Sounds like the torque converter was having trouble, or even internal failure. At least it sounds like a turbo, haha.
I had a 2000 W202 C230 Kompressor and loved it. Great car! Bought it for $700 and some guy totalled it in the parking lot at the dog park. Insurance paid out $4k for it tho which was nice. Bought an E53 X5 3.0i and quickly learned to hate BMW's. Really looking for a W140 S-Class now. That W202 turned me into a Mercedes-Benz fanboy.
MOST valuable auto channel. I’ve watched other channels that say things like, “Buy this luxury car used for dirt cheap and own the dream.” You and the Car Wizard show us what cars are good to buy used and what cars are not and what goes wrong on them.
Hoovie, my dad threw some insights in for you: It could be a number of things, most likely ignition related. Coils are new, but what about spark plugs and high tension leads? If original they’re probably worn out. Also no discussion of distributor cap/rotor which can also cause misfires on this vintage car. He is right though, these cars cost a lot to maintain. He’s on to the mineral oil issue - if you fill reservoirs when the rear end is raised, oil will overflow to the ground as the rear settles from not being driven. Happens to my car too. And of course, all British cars leak something!
Hoovie ..... you have saved me SO MUCH money and headaches by watching your videos and avoiding "car nut impulses" which an old retired guy just can't afford, that I owe you a very nice steak dinner at Sullivans (when they open again) next time you're in KC. Be sure to give me a call when you're in town (in a few months), or whenever you need an extra "driver". Your videos have been a "retirement dream" and now even more important while locked inside. Thanks again Hoovie !!! :)
The mineral oil leak is from the two overflow tubes ( you are correct about it settling when it sits). The reservoirs are overfilled. I have the ignition test procedures if you’re interested. I can email the test plan from the factory manuals. It’s worth checking the small timing belt in the distributor. They start to fail over time and will occasionally jump a tooth. Just a thought.
I have a ’92 400e and it had a transmission that started slipping. I bought a rebuilt from a place named Sun Valley Mercedes Transmissions located in Pacoima, CA. The rebuild has been in the car for about 10 years and works flawlessly. I won’t mention cost because 10 years is a long time.
Hey Hoovie! Love the show! Seems like you have moved on to high end cars that few folks will ever be able to afford. I think most of us would like to see some of those more "normal" cars back in the fleet. Keep up the great work!
I have a Mercedes 560sel with hydraulic rear suspension. When the oil raises the car and sets the ride height, it should NOT backflow back into the reservoir when the car sits but after a few months and being 30 years old, its forgivable. Clean fluid and filter (if the Bentley has one) and load the trunk and have 4 people in it, drive it hard and it should resettle the leveling valves and flush any junk causing backflow. Try it. I rebuilt my whole sls system and that was the final cure for overflowing reservoirs and sagging rear ends
Tyler, I have a suggestion on the Bentley. With the engine at idle, go around the CIS-E fuel head(it's the silver thing with all the fuel lines coming out of it, the Wizard will know), and, one-at-a-time, loosen them about 1 turn. a 12mm open-end or flare nut wrench will do it, and let out some fuel. You'll likely find the gas that will escape to be dirty & discolored. Let this crummy gas & dirt out of all the holes, 1 at a time, and go around 2 or 3 times if a lot comes out. There may be a bit of water there as well. Tap on the lines right at the fitting with the wrench. Only do 1 line at a time, then tighten, and go on to the next. The CIS-system was common on Mercedes cars from 76 to 91. We had trouble with them all, often from lack of service, or poor gas. Use only premium fuel, and add 2 bottles of Chevron Techron, available at most of the chain auto parts stores, to a full tank of gas. It might be helpful to pull the fuel injectors, run some mineral spirits through them, and replace the seals. As you have learned, English cars don't take well to being stored. If the suspension is losing its pressure, you're leaving it alone too long, and you will pay for that.
I know you’re planning to sell the Bentley, but if the pressure from the rear suspension is backfeeding to the reservoir while the car remains dormant, you could install residual pressure valves in the lines. They’re one way valves which don’t allow the fluid to back feed. They’re relatively inexpensive (a few dollars each), go right in-line on brake line with flare fittings, and are pretty easy to find, from vendors such as Speedway Motors. I’ve used them on numerous hot rod builds and they work great. Anyway, stay healthy and safe Tyler, and thank you for all the great video content over the years...looking forward to more in the future!
Soo, this Bentley use some things licened by Citroen (I saw spheres in earlier videos and they are identical). In Citroen you can change position of the suspension (dont know if its a thing there) and when there is to much LHM (thats the name of this mineral oil in Citroen) and you lower the suspension it can overflow from reservoir! That happend in my 1995 Citroen XM.
My dad had a 1975 Toyota Corolla, used it for almost 30 years. It did have some wear and tear and 1 time engine overhaul. The odometer even already back to 000000 once. I wish I have much recording about the car and post it on RU-vid, but no youtube back in the days.😁
About the Bentley's hydaulic system, Citroën models had a valve (since the mid-90s) to retain the mineral oil pressure while parked. Maybe you could look for one
I was called SC-CAR I believe, but I'm not sure that would be the case here, in my opinion since it only leaks when parked it should be a return line from the front suspension or a cracked Y joint that joins both sides suspension return lines to the reservoir
@@Baldufle I suspected that; I only said there is such valve because without it the startup time can be a bit long, and since they have to wrench there, they can install it as well (or maybe in a month's time XD )
My Bentley has a minimum pressure valve....the great trouble is that it’s behind SO MUCH of the system that quite a lot of the car needs to be leak free in order for it to pass 12 hours still raised. I had it working immaculately for about a year then stopped driving it.
I've acquired a low budget hooptie fleet of my own, a 78 Ford F250, a 96 Geo Prizm, and a 91 Mercury Grand Marquis. The only not broken one is my 78 Ford, its twice my age but is more reliable than most newer cars I've owned
If fluid is overfilling the reservoir from the rear suspension you may be able to solve that problem with check valves installed on those return lines.
It is not of importance if it is worth it or not, it depends on if you want it fixed or not, if you do want it fixed you need to take it to some people who know their shit
Over 12 years ago, when I was selling my 2nd 745i (I was a big fan of this new BMW design of E65), I had a plan to buy 760i as a second car. Fortunately, I was eager to share this great plan with my service expert in local BMW service center (not the authorized one, but the one I was using for quite some time) and they told me to not even thing about it. High pressure fuel pumps, issues with cooling and engine overheating, even engine cracks were common with this model. I'm really glad I did listen :D
What I do with the Benz with the ABC suspension is let the car sit and sink and then check the fluid level to keep it from overflowing while sitting. When the car is at normal height the fluid level in the reservoir drops pretty low, but it's good enough. It's just not a large enough reservoir.
Either that, or it's about hearing Hoovie say, "Weeezard!" Perhaps the real purpose of this channel was to introduce us all to the most excellent Car Wizard.
Ich mag die deutsche Flagge im Hintergrund! Btw: Here in germany we all Know: Never buy an old v8 bmw Audi or Daimler Sedan. It is always the same: the Last owners do Not Invest in These Cars.
Good point: when the cost of repairs greatly exceeds the value of the car-what is the point. In the USA, once you have an accident (and repairs >75% of the value), the insurance company will scrap the car-then you have a choice - fix it (and have the value reduced by the insurance carrier,m or sell it for parts. There is no way to recover from such a loss. Which is why these cars end up in junkyards.
You are speaking the truth! The way USA insurance companies handle depreciated vehicles... It's a flip of the coin to invest into an aged, depreciated vehicle whether it be a mechanical or cosmetic investment. This flip of the coin scenario runs through every used car owners mind...it's a hard and annoying situation to be in because you want to be a responsible car owner. Gotta value our money and there's sacrifices.
LMFAO More like the BEST automotive channel in the whole RU-vid. I mean it! Thank you, Hoovie, for everything you've been doing. Have fun, stay safe and keep up the good work!
Yes welcome to old-school Bentley owner ship, they will some times leave you on the side of the road waiting for an AA tow track , But when they are working properly they are just beautiful to drive, Good luck to you...
As just a low budget car guy, I can't imagine living Tyler's life! I struggle to keep an American made SUV on the road. The repair bills he pays would bankrupt me immediately.
I feel like Tyler is going to single handedly keep the car wizard and car ninja in business while on the stay at home mandate, with all of his projects lol
You may need to replace a couple of green spheres if it is sinking down when it sits. These do the self levelling. These are Citroen derived. You just buy Citroen ones, so they aren't expensive. I've had the sinking down effect on my 1994 Brooklands. A new sphere fixed it. Be aware there are I think 19 bleed points after fitting. Normally you do both the front or both the back so that they match. Good luck.
Whenever Doug wants to put a Doug Score in quality for the cars he reviews he will watch your videos because you buy every single money pit in existence
That whirring noise coming from the transmission on the 500e sounds like it could be the torque converter. Might be wrong though, somebody else will correct me. If the torque converter IS the issue, it might not be locking up correctly, which can lead to that sound you are hearing. It's also possible that it's slightly off balance, but I kind of doubt that.
My E350 was making a similar noise and it turned out to be a bushing in the pump that the input shaft goes thru. Dropped the trans, removed the pump, replaced the bushing. On the inside of the bushing, you could see it was wearing unevenly. It's been quiet since tho.
@@reyluque7430 Considering Tyler said it was $2700 for the whole rebuild, they may have used a crappy aftermarket one. I honestly have no idea, but when I hear something that's that noticeable, I get a little concerned.
You guys below answered my question about making mistakes and his money, he helps pass the time and it saves me getting my hands dirty playing around with expensive toys whilst hoping to avaid covid 19. I get by o.k. driving the school bus watching the pennies (dimes) so it's all good :) Take care and stay safe everyone!
@Mr. Musashito that's the thing: quarantine or not, we watch, they earn. Kind of like Union Teachers where I live....the schools are all closed but they are still getting paid.....
@@CAHSR2020 same protections to teachers as everybody else...considering my tax dollars pay their wages, their wages don't pay mine. They deserve no better or worse than anybody else.
@@rickycoker5830 I thought this was Wichita...Either way, I've always wondered how he buys exotics like on impulse, then spends $$$ fixing them up. I bet Car Wizard & Car Ninja are happy when he gets something new (cha ching) lol
The 500E sounds like my 300SD did years ago when the reverse band let go (shattered) and dumped clutch material into the fluid (at 282k miles). Still drove another 1,500+ miles without failing before I swapped it for a used one. The 722.3 is normally very robust.
Well, here in Europe where i live, currently is a "partial" curfew and you can only leave your property for like 20 important reasons ("fulfill your basic needs") and going to a mechanic is one of them :D
I come here to watch ads for man shampoo and some guy from the Epoch Times, and it keeps getting interrupted by this guy that buys cars that cannot be fixed.
When a mechanics workshop looks like a medical centre = $$$$$$. Sometimes it’s just throwing good money after bad ............. Hoovie - “Hold my beer!”. Love that Bentley !
At around 10 years old (and probably even less in some cases), BMW's are basically rolling boxes of spare parts. This was a term used by a good friend of mine who worked as a wholesaler in a big dealer group in Queensland, Australia. He told me that any 10 year old+ BMW X5, Audi Q7 and Mercedes ML was given a universal value of AUD $2,000 unless it was something very exceptional. They were basically rolling spare parts. They nearly always had problems and very few worth fixing or repairing - just too complex, fragile and expensive.
I imagine business will boom for The Wizard and many other auto mechanics once the stay at home orders stop and non-essential businesses reopen, all those cars that will sit unused for weeks or months will developed problems, mechanical issues, and especially leaks once they start being used again.
@@andrewgeyersoccer9384 you can do it too. Just buy a car, make a video and title it "I bought the cheapest car in the us like hoovies garage and I'm going to fix it" And *boom* instant viewers when someone searches for any of those words
Citroen hydro-pneumatic system powered the suspension, steering and brakes. Springs are gas spheres. Ride height is fully hydraulic Check out the DS. It worked well for Citroen but Rolls Royce (and many others) never got it sussed.
you owe it to your subscribers to keep up the content Hoovie! Especially during these times.. We'll watch you wash a car or even better, feed/change your baby...that would be epic.
Tyler If u have a LHM (hydraulic on the Bentley) leak when the car is parked. It must be a leak on a sort of spider carter that collect the hydraulic oil from the jacks back to the pump. Standard problem on the CITROEN...
Hi Hoovie, longtime original fan..! I agree with a past message, although you replaced the coil, sounds like one of your coil wires or spark plug wires is shorting on the engine block . The new high energy coil just exasperated the situation... If you want to sell the Alpina, let me know😉
For the Bentley, look at alternator output. I had a Range Rover Classic that had a similar problem. Chased ignition and fuel system components. It would only do it when cruising on the highway and under light throttle. I was able to duplicate the problem in my driveway using a VAT40. Low voltage output from the alternator while cruising caused the fuel injection and ignition systems to cut out. Threw a new alternator in and all my symptoms disappeared. Hope this helps.
i would like to know what tyler does for a living? ive been watching him hemorrhage money at cars for years, buy a new to him house and build a beautiful garage. this guy is either in debt to his eyes or his day job is awesone.
If the new stronger coils are making the misfire issue worse, it means that the leads, plugs or something else after the coils are "jumping" to the ground. As the current is higher with new coils, the probability for the jump is higher.
Love this guy! So self-effacing - he buys the money-pits we all wish we had the bottle to buy. Then of course, he catches a cold and buys another lemon. Keep em coming Hoovie. Makes a change from smart-ass, 'bought a gem and it cost me fxxk all' channels!
No waaay Tyler!!!! We need your videos for entertainment while we stay at home too!!! Wear mask and all, but keep feeding us your bad deals please!!!! I was a foreign exchange student on 2000, went to southeast high in Wichita and I love seeing around in your videos.. Big fan from Australia now 😃
Ok, maybe you can update the Garage with some acoustic panels so it's nicer for filmimg... The audio leaves a little too be desired. Said with love buddy. ❤️
The Bentley has a hydraulic suspension from Citroen. The green ball is actually called a sphere and is basically your shock absorber, cause it is full of gas, the rest are just cylinders, lines and a pump. The system is pretty tough, but like anything else, it ages. On Citroen Xantia or XM you could replace the entire suspension hydraulic circle for 500 euros, but then it is bullet proof and will outlive any conventional shock absorber at least twice. For leaks check around steering or return pipes, these are the ones usually stressed out the most. Seeing where this leak comes from, if it ain't from return pipes, it is coming from the drainage if there's too much LHM in the central reservoir - happens when you don't drive the car so it settles on the ground and more oil is returned from the suspension cylinders. We have a saying: A Citroen doesn't leak, it just marks its territory. It's a small price to pay for a carpet ride. Stay safe. ;)