My wife paid 60 bucks for a Seiko Frankenwatch with a 6349 movement. It has a real nice textured green dial, high polished bezel and dive watch hands. I love the thing and wear it all the time.
Most of the time, the quality of the material used in the fake movement is not that bad, and most of the time the actual design of the movement is the one to blame if the movement broke so as long as those movement is "well-engineered" any "manufacturer" can make it with roughly the same features and tolerances and have it working as well as the original movement
That watch is probably worth the 160 you paid. Good finishing & probably an reliable Seiko made movement in there. Id say you've landed on your feet there.
I bought a Seiko 5 here in China. It looked super real and felt like good quality. After a month of use I checked the writings on the watch with a macro lense. I noticed a typo on the word "crystal". Then noticed that the front and back of the watch indicated different informations. Your video finished to convinced me that my watch was fake when I checked the "warranty". I paid over a hundred dollars for it and didn't suspect a thing as it was my first watch...
Don't forget that another give away is that the dial in Seiko watches are very bright after passing them through a light. Seikos are known for their watch illumination which is one of if not the best in the world when it comes to their "lume".
There is a chance that the calibre (movement) is still SEIKO as SEIKO sells generic versions of their calibres such as the NH35A (an unbranded version of Seiko's 4R35 calibre) to other manufacturers and watchmakers in general. Usually the weight is painted yellow to show that it is the unbranded Seiko movement. Technically, the unbranded movement is a slightly improved and updated version of the Seiko calibre it is based on. Sure there are the Chinese Seagull movements and the Japanese Miyota movements that are also popular with replica manufacturers but the price of the Seiko unbranded movements is comparable. The issue with the fakes is that they have little interest in quality control overall, not in the quality of the mechanisms as those are often just purchased from Seiko, Miyota or Seagull.
Indeed. We don't get to see the watch closely but the open heart layout suggests this movement is a Seiko 4R38 which they sell to 3rd party manufacturers as the NH38. Plenty of micro brand makers use this movement. I have an Accurist that has it. Also noteworthy is the milled clasp as opposed to the cheap pressed item Seiko use. All in all, putting aside that it's fake. For the money it looks pretty good
I am going to update the situation...I know a lot more about the watch now...it is definitely not a genuine Seiko...the movement is NH35A...but the crown appears to be a base metal, not stainless steel...it changed color after 3-4 months. I suspect that the movement is likely a chinese copy of the NH35A...The real Premier by Seiko was only produced in a real stainless steel case, and sold for about 6-700$. I will present my findings online soon.
The movement actually installed is a NH39A. No reason to fake this in a cheap watch since you can find those movement as a consumer directly for about €25. I have the same NH39A in a Pagani Design watch. Also the case and crown etc might be fakes but that doesn't mean the movement is fake. When you get these movements separately they come with a plastic crown and usually an extra stem with threads on, that you cut to length and screw the crown onto.
UPDATE: due to further questions, I conducted more research. The watch I received claims to be the Seiko Premier Automatic SSA213J1 with Seiko 4R39A movement. I have searched extensively online for the specifications of this model..the closest I could come was an apparent advert from China wanting over 7000$ for the watch...if you are interested, you can view here: shopee.tw/%E3%80%90%E8%8A%B3%E5%85%92%E3%80%91SEIKO%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E7%B2%BE%E5%B7%A5-Premier%E7%B3%BB%E5%88%97%E7%94%B7%E5%A3%AB%E8%87%AA%E5%8B%95%E9%8F%A4%E7%A9%BA%E6%A9%9F%E6%A2%B0%E8%A1%A8%E9%8B%BC%E5%B8%B6%E6%89%8B%E8%A1%A8SSA213J1-i.143293980.2340024295 I have a new video update on this watch, and also a new one on the real Seiko movement Pagani Design 75$ usd divers watch..which is a Chinese made watch with real sapphire and genuine Seiko movement..hope you watch
This is an excellent video. I purchased a fake Seiko watch also, but I knew before buying it from Wish that it was fake. It was only $27.00, so I knew it was too good to be true. But it's a good imitation, so I am happy with it.
I bought my sieko at Dillard's and the packaging you got was a lot nicer than mine. Mine has 4 R 36 on front and back. So maybe mine is the real deal. I hope.
I have one like it. Is it durable? What can we say about the caliber? Is it durable or disposable? I didn't understand the video because my English is bad, I'm from another country. Thanks.
At first glance, it is hard to tell...like many fakes today. However, it didn't take long for the quality issues to show. I have another video to show how this fake Seiko looked and worked like only a year later...it was not a pretty sight.
thank you very much sir for this information .. i am this very close to ordering a seiko 5 in pindudu and taobao .. but just like you said the price is too good to be true ... i have a bit of an affordable collection of watches now ( casio and timex watches ) and i was hoping to upgrade myself into a 200-300 usd range of watches like seikos , orient . tissot ... this fake seiko it may look good and cheap but i wont feel great knowing that i am wearing a fake , its like i am deceiving others specially myself ... its the feeling the watch gave me that i started collecting in the first place .
I would not say 'all' of them do, but the Premier and other reasonably expensive models do. Mine came with a fake certificate, so obviously the fakers knew the real model was issued with an international guarantee. Some non-authorized sites sell counterfeit or second-hand watches, or watches that have been tampered with, and are, therefore, not eligible for care under the Seiko warranty. Others do not offer the original Seiko international warranty, nor do they offer any after-sales service of any kind. Usually their guarantee is transferrable to, from one state/country to another. So, it is important to buy a Seiko from an authorized Seiko dealer, especially if it's a high priced model.
My daily genuine Seiko 5 needs repair and cleaning, and I missed it on my wrist. Ordered a fake padi diver for US 5$. I prefer the fake one now, and just order a variety of them. When they break, they go right in the bin...
I have a fake Seiko or counterfeit Seiko watch that I purchased at Wish, I only pay $22 dollars for it, the original costs $600 so for only $22 dollars for the Seiko X divers 200 m, I'm getting a deal and people can't tell the difference if you are wearing it.
Say it with me…. Homage. It’s an homage. Oh my bad… your vid came up when i was looking for heimdallr monsters. Yes, you got faked. Just buy a heimdallr.
Buying anything in china is a headache unless you go to a certified retailer. I bought an orient from Jing Dong, after receiving the product I have searched online everywhere for 3 days without any satisfying result, Eventually I gave up lol
I don't like bulova, I don't like that you pair them up in the same group as Tissot or other lifeless brands such as bulova etc. Seiko is its own market, with prices ranging from 200 all the way up to around 10k.
I accidentally bought a faith seiko 5 Cheap watches also wan to cheat 😓 Since they able to made the fake one , don’t know why they don’t trying to create their own brand….😩
So what is the caliber movement for that seiko ?. Is that a 7s26 Nh36 4r36 4r35?..So what's the problem for that?.The only problem for that seiko watch is that you discover that a citizen movement is inside.
A friend of mine once brought me a Franck Muller from China... He paid 50$ for the watch...It is the highest quality replica he could find, even the dial is made of mother of pearl, beautifully engraved case back, fully functional chrono, crazy accuracy to details and so on.... Anyway that was 15 years ago, and the watch still ticking just like when it was new.... Lol fake or not, for the price of these it's not a bad deal. I mean again it was 50$ lmao
Companies do have production facilities in China, and 'asians' work in them..but the product quality is guaranteed by the real company. So, I was not saying anything about 'asian' men..I was showing that there is a fake product being manufactured, which is illegal, and deceptive. Also, typically the fake goods are not the 'same' as the genuine ones, and offer no warranty..they often use substandard components, when people are paying for high quality ones. That is just not right. That illegal market seems predominantly a Chinese phenomena...but undoubtedly in other nations too...the point of the video was to warn people of fake goods, not to criticize Asians..I live in China, and have many good friends here..and in South Korea...
In the end, a new era of watches has come. Some illegal company from EU started making mega clones called ziarex. Basically, what they are doing is buying original parts from workers in Rolex who flag that part as damaged and sell them. But thats not the
Ты десятки раз повторил что это подделка, но не привёл никаких доказательств плохого качества часов! А зачем переплачивать, китайцы делают копии частенько на тех же заводах!!!
I bought a fake Citizen diver from them. Says eco-drive. Clearly not. Couple things lead me to believe that its an invicta quartz diver in Citizen clothing. But I only payed $20 for it. So I may get a year out of it...if I don't get it wet. lol.
One correction: The red lined plastic cover on the watches caseback is *NOT* a sign of fakery. A large number of companies (in all price ranges) use those stickers. I still find it hard to believe replicators would put so much effort into copying such low priced watches. If you're going to take the time and effort to make a convicing fake Seiko, why not fake a Grand Seiko or some other higher cost model. It's like a counterfeiter making single dollars instead of $100 dollar bills!
indeed...but I think the turnover is faster on lower priced pieces, and people suspect expensive brands may be fake, and exercise more caution when buying.
@@fulltechahead People suspecting and exercising more caution is a valid point, but counterfeiters feed on the knowledge that their are always going to be the not so diligent buyers to prey on. The economics of counterfeiting 101 shows that copying single dollars is just as expensive as copying $100 bills (not to mention that jail time is the same if your caught faking $1 or $100) The higher profit margins on the more expensive pieces will usually outweigh any amount of money made by the faster turnover of lower priced copies.
Cancel ziarex and mega clone watches. They are destroying the whole community of original watches and becoming a threat to the economy and dignity of Rolex.
What is the purpose of a watch?....TO KEEP TIME!! so you buy a time piece for $100 that keeps good time and has a name that may impress others. Who cares who made it as long as it works and you like the looks..... and should you get muged then your only out a hundred bucks instead of $800.
Cancel ziarex and mega clone watches. They are destroying the whole community of original watches and becoming a threat to the economy and dignity of Rolex.
