I Bought a FAULTY Original XBOX Crystal | Can I FIX It?

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I picked up this mint but FAULTY Crystal XBox on a recent trip to sunny Morecambe. It was sold to me as having a faulty disc drive. Other than that, I have no idea what's going on inside.
I really like the look of this thing, and would REALLY like to get it working. So let's give it a go!
Hope you enjoy!
Steve
PS. I'm not an expert in repairs at all. I do this for fun, and it may not be the best or safest way to go about repairing broken stuff. I'm pretty good at melting plastic though. Please don't copy me - I'm an idiot.
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@StezStixFix 5 месяцев назад

Stupid Times Table

@infin1ty850 5 месяцев назад

Yay, I forgot it was Wednesday

@cbleslie 4 месяца назад

Don't give up. You'll get it!

@stevenbenson9976 4 месяца назад

The clock cap was probably fine but no harm in replacing it. Stez needs to check his for trace rot

@PontiacKid2 4 месяца назад

We're with you, it was 27 for sure :P

@jojob6669 4 месяца назад

If you see on capacitor the spot welding parts on side has a + and on other side a - sign

@Fox-Tech 4 месяца назад

I suspect that the positive side would be the one that has the plus sign pressed into the leg, where the minus sign is on the negative side.

@StezStixFix 4 месяца назад

Yeah, that makes sense! Didn't see that 🫣

@MartynChadderton 4 месяца назад

Glad you spotted that too! Thought I was imagining it 😂

@thomasdoherty6876 4 месяца назад

I thought it was obvious too 😂 never mind ste, we all make mistakes

@joelgraham6820 4 месяца назад

I spotted that as well, and remembered the reference in another video. Surprised that whatever website talked about the arrows didn't mention the + and - indentations on the legs.

@davelukeford 4 месяца назад

Came here to say that. 😂

@AppNasty 4 месяца назад

Anyone else love this channel vs other repair channels because it feels like you’re actually hanging out with him? Other channels do too much production and it just feels like you’re watching them….vs one on one hangout. So relaxing.

@lebouffeurdemoules 4 месяца назад

My Mate Vince

@Boru06 4 месяца назад

Ah its just class. He's a very likeable chap and very funny too.

@--Zook-- 4 месяца назад

Not repair, but Dawid does tech stuff has similar humor. great channel

@frankurmom8741 4 месяца назад

Steve, the clock cap is only rated for 6 hours of power. So what you had just meant it was unplugged for more than 6 hours.

@OldUKAds 3 месяца назад

I'm no expert and couldn't do most of shit but just admit I thought shouldn't you plug it in, set it and see?

@esraeloh8681 2 месяца назад

Is that seriously all it lasted, that's crazy. My brothers Pokemon Blue with original battery is still somehow holding enough charge, mind you, our Gold & Silvers died, only discovered that in 2021 how much power do those timing crystals consume. And no I'm not comparing batteries to Caps, I know they are night & day in terms of total energy, just thought it might've been a couple days.

@pw7752 Месяц назад

Absolutely right - my crystal green one is the same.

@MichelF 4 месяца назад

The sound when adding the incorrect thermal paste, hilarious! I think TronicsFix will love it 😂

@leemajors3834 4 месяца назад

Lol Genius and had me in stitches also

@nokiaringtonearabic 4 месяца назад

FYI, the HeXEn disc is a tool for modded systems. HeXEn, in this case, stands for Heimdall's Xbox Engineering disc and it allows you to do a whole ton of stuff for modded systems, such as TSOP/modchip flashing, installing another dashboard, etc etc.

@CrashFan03 3 месяца назад

thank you kagura

@memonrunescape 4 месяца назад

This is a 1.6 model which has a slightly different board layout and are MUCH less prone to the leaking clock capacitor, I modded my crystal 1.6 last year with a re-pro aladdin XT and a 1TB HDD. If anyone else wants to do this you need an 80 pin IDE for the IDE to SATA converter to work properly. I thought this was a pretty fun project and actually led me onto RGHing some xbox 360's that I rescued off of facebook marketplace.

@FrozenSpark12 4 месяца назад

The driver belts getting lose is a common problem on OG Xboxes. I had it on both of the consoles I worked on. I got a pack advertised as "Xbox360 driver belts" from China since I could not find any for the OG Xbox, but they worked great. The clock capacitor only keeps the time for around 6 hours. It will still ask you to set the time after that, that's why many people don't even bother to put a new one in. Don't think you need to put thermal paste around the CPU as well. That area doesn't seem to make contact with the heat sink.

@fadetonoir6152 4 месяца назад

Very common problem on 360s as well. Boiling them does help but I always have a pack of new ones on hand. And yeah they're interchangeable - they're all just 1" bands, if I've remembered the size right.

@andrewsmith1204 4 месяца назад

13:29 the indentations on the welded legs are also in the shape of +/- signs. Neat!

@ShALLaX 4 месяца назад

The hint for the capacitor are the big + and - signs on the terminal welds. Also, never put thermal paste around the die, it'll just trap the heat in the thermal compound with nowhere for it to transfer.

@EikottXD 4 месяца назад

Yeah I hope he sees this.

@woovs101 4 месяца назад

I've watched this channel grow so fast in the last year... congrats Steve, you deserve it

@Sydney268 4 месяца назад

Hahaa, you was just trolling us putting the thermal paste all around the die - loved it.

@cuppacheese 4 месяца назад

One thing to note… I have seen in some of your other videos as well, when you test capacitors, you do not let them test long enough. When testing capacitance on a multimeter, you have to give it some time to charge up. This goes the same for that component tester. Cheers!

@sorakat42 5 месяцев назад

Seeing you take apart an Xbox makes me feel more confident in getting into mine. I've been meaning to take care of the SUPER clock capacitor on mine before it can go BOOM!

@StezStixFix 4 месяца назад

It's actually nice and easy to take apart. Definitely worth dealing with that SUPERCAPACITOR before it explodes! 😁

@andrewmiller2904 4 месяца назад

Really easy fix. If you're not confident replacing, just remove. It's purpose is to retain the time only for an hour or two in case of a power outage. Not required for operation.

@DForce26 4 месяца назад

If you have a 1.6 revision MoBo, you are good... Only the earlier revisions had bad clock capacitors.

@electrohacker 4 месяца назад

They dont usually go boom on 1.6 consoles

@Ll3maFN 4 месяца назад

unfortunately they still do, ive seen many 1.6'es that have started leaking out the legs. worth it to replace on 1.6'es now @@electrohacker

@DazGeary 4 месяца назад

lol, that Super Cap had a plus + and a minus - constructed into the silver tab legs. For next time. luv your work. Daz xx

@RobSchofield 2 месяца назад

@ 13:10 - the hint is the big "+" sign embossed on the connector tab on one side, and the "-" on the other 😊

@ada205mi 4 месяца назад

Was expecting a wrong answer, but genuinely nearly choked as sipping a can of Pepsi Max when answered 27 to 3 x 2!!! Stupid times table!!! Best and most entertaining retro repair channel around by far, deserves all the success and more. Can't wait for next vid.

@adw147 4 месяца назад

Love the seagull noises 🎉

@me0262 4 месяца назад

That was a 1.6 console (the extra ram pads were removed), so the clock cap didn't need replacing (and it won't run without it). All you needed was to boil the band as those (as you saw) can settle into position. Great buy for 10 pounds! Next up you need to either chip it, softmod it (recommend 007 Agent Under Fire), or TSOP flash it (a little more difficult on 1.6 boxes).

@TrimeshSZ 4 месяца назад

You can't TSOP flash a 1.6 - on these machines the boot ROM is combined with the PIC that controls power sequencing in a custom chip called "Xyclops"- if you want custom boot code you need to add a modchip on the LPC bus, but you need to fix the traces for the LPC data lines that MS removed first.

@MyRegardsToTheDodo 4 месяца назад

Depending on how long it was disconnected from the power it will still ask you to reset the time. It's a cap, not a battery.

@PontiacKid2 4 месяца назад

Saves the time for something like 6 hours or so. :)

@AdBlock-User 4 месяца назад

Reacted to that too. As far as I remember, the clock lasts around 5-10 minutes max. It was a cheap way Microsoft did it. EDIT: Taking that back. According to the MS website: "up to about three hours after losing mains power"

@MyRegardsToTheDodo 4 месяца назад

@@AdBlock-User Even if Microsoft had used a rechargable battery for that you'd have to exchange it by now, because those batteries would be mostly dead.

@matthewwilliams5258 4 месяца назад

Because of the way the clock circuit is made a battery would have lasted 10-20 minutes

@AdBlock-User 4 месяца назад

@@MyRegardsToTheDodo You don't need a rechargeable battery. The CR2032 battery in my NES game from 1993 still keeps the save file alive.

@GTXDash 4 месяца назад

That is a great find for just 10 quid. Only a minor problem. Very clean and snazzy looking thing.

@benholt5273 4 месяца назад

If you look where the spot welds on the new clock capacitor are theres a plus and minus stamped into the metal

@woolfy02 4 месяца назад

Awesome job! I remember my first OG Xbox that I had softmodded, to run games and what not. (I Transferred movies / games to it via FTP...lol) The good old days.

@theminicooper Месяц назад

17:38 I must admit, I was expecting a "Well it seems it's still broken..." 😆

@propulsar Месяц назад

Great to see you back. Looking forward to following progress.

@dolphin7607 4 месяца назад

Just love the video and how you present them, glad to see your improved since your first video, been catching up on your back catalogue. Thanks a bunch for the light relief, stupid or not well worth the watch.

@ninaevans4501 4 месяца назад

Lovin' the humour, and the 1980's style in repair soundtracks. But, let's face it, STUPID at the end of the day Steve. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍👍

@familytrieserichiltz940 4 месяца назад

There is something wildly satisfying about watching you clean and solder. I know little to nothing about working with circuit boards but find your videos to be informative and so relaxing! Thank you!!

@olivierallemeersch1966 4 месяца назад

For the capacitor. The negative side has a rectangular recess in the middle and for the positive a cross-shaped recess 😃 Love ur vids!

@PontiacKid2 4 месяца назад

I just started getting into fixing these things and it's cool seeing you posting new videos about them.

@gentle285 4 месяца назад

I love how you heated up the stickers first, and also that you tested the new battery thoroughly. Great job!

@fadetonoir6152 4 месяца назад

The fact that it was asking you to set the time doesn't mean the capacitor was bad - it only stores a charge for about 3 hours, so that's normal. Also you have a v1.6 motherboard there, which used caps thaf are less prone to failure. But of course replacing it with a newer, better one is never a bad thing!

@JamieStuff 4 месяца назад

And the rev 1.6 boards REQUIRE the capacitor to function. That would indicate to me that the cap was at least somewhat functional. Replacing it, as you said, is never a Bad Thing.

@JohnnyRapture. 4 месяца назад

Love this channel. I watched a lot of videos over Christmas break!

@wisher21uk 4 месяца назад

Great find that, in such good condition too well done Steve great fix 😊

@michaelarmer256 4 месяца назад

Morecambe resident here love lees games

@moewiggins7832 3 месяца назад

Man, you crack me up. I only found your vids a couple of days ago, but I love watching them, you're so funny and cool (and you fix stuff).

@Captain_Bollacks 3 месяца назад

as a fellow commenter said it dose feel like hanging out but also feels like a 90s tech show, just the calm voice and suttle giggle :) and the going in blind and being a little stumped here there is brilliant, feels like learning together :) you sir have a new subscriber! (Y)

@Anonymouthful 3 месяца назад

Informative and entertaining, what more could one ask from a concole refurbishing video. Subbed.

@Effect2o 4 месяца назад

Yet again another AWESOME video!! Thank you. You sure do make this repair stuff look fun!!

@watchingdanny 4 месяца назад

Excellent video. I love my original Xbox. If I ever go to England, I will endeavor to find one of these original clear models just for the case. Great job Steve. You covered everything... dusting, capacitor, drive cleaning and lubing and thermal paste. Now you just need to mod it. 😎

@JoshBattin 4 месяца назад

NGL, this beat slaps. That bassline!? Buttery!

@tonymatthews2987 2 месяца назад

I find it very satisfying when Steve manages to fix items that seem beyond repair great channel Ste cheers

@samsonevickis 4 месяца назад

Always a fan of your videos, keep up the great work!

@haactgaming9687 4 месяца назад

It’s beautiful! And you know the door tap trick! Lol!

@timehunter9467 4 месяца назад

I love the look of clear/translucent cases on electronics, I had the purple gameboy colour and I thought it looked awesome with the components on show.

@mtshark7 4 месяца назад

Nicely done Steve!

@dudewhoareu 4 месяца назад

Great find and awesome fix!

@CinderGamingChannel 4 месяца назад

The Crystal Classic! That beat though when ya start cleaning the disk drive!!! ✌️

@GrantHarvey-tx9sl 2 месяца назад

Hi Steve,I work on a lot of gaming consoles & the best method I found for removing hardened Microsoft thermal paste is to use a couple of sprays of THE WORKS Geocel Multi Use Cleaner.softens the paste up much better than alcohol & you can get it in 500ml aerosol form.

@Rybagz 4 месяца назад

Heatsink paste application, you should have used a Hitchcock movie scream clip. The CPU just needs about half a grain of rice worth on the die (small square raised silicon at the centre) - too much or some around the side is risky in that it can ooze out and can be conductive or capacitive. The GPU - the X method is probably best and you don't need much at all. Draw the X from a few mm in from corner to corner.

@Barry101er 28 дней назад

I remember when "see-through", electronics was a thing for a bit; I had a monitor ( interestingly named "Formac")for my Power Macintosh G3 tower (Blue and White)

@Easy-my9gk Месяц назад

Some of the best entertainment on YT, great job Stez!

@mrchrome5403 4 месяца назад

Loved the ending keep up the brilliant videos pal

@doenerbude6573 4 месяца назад

I love the xbox classic. I have been in the modding scene of the x360 and the ogxbox for quite some time now and absolutely love the nostalgia this console gives me. Very nice one you got there. Enough written, now I have to watch the video. :D Greetings from germany.

@Retro_Care 4 месяца назад

what a steal, good find!! i still love this console, loads of modding potential as well. thanks for the upload :) i enjoyed it. many will say just leave the cap out, i have 6 xboxes and i also replaced the cap in all of them as well.

@rossmoffat7343 4 месяца назад

My new fave channel, very entertaining and informative

@willrobinson7599 4 месяца назад

This I think was prob my fav console, the amazing modding scene adding bigger HD, lights ect made this an amazing console . Still got my original clear xbox now , got 1tb sata drive in it full of emulators and xbox games

@Okurka. 4 месяца назад

Why SATA?

@willrobinson7599 4 месяца назад

@Okurka. as ages ago I got the sata adapter kit and new cable , think sata drives faster at accessing too.

@paulwilson1555 4 месяца назад

If you look at the capacitor, it has a metal cut out + on one side and a - cut out in the metal on the other side, which I guess is how it has been labelled up in metal.

@gregorybrashear1520 3 месяца назад

You are one of the funniest tech repair or video game guys on RU-vid. First video I have watched and you got my Sub!

@billcarson9565 3 месяца назад

I still got mine, with the Xecutor 3 mod installed, all fully working!

@timucinaziz 4 месяца назад

I love your content man i want to see more console fixing videos greetings from Bulgaria 🇧🇬

@techrestoread 4 месяца назад

Nice one you away make me laugh on here you put in a fun way on restoring things :-)

@mopsandmuscles7855 4 месяца назад

Funny, TronicsFix just uploaded an OG Xbox repair video yesterday. What a coincidence

@Boru06 4 месяца назад

Another brill vid, thanks Ste! I wonder, would it be possible, and even worth, using a flat battery holder thingy instead of a super cap for the clock?

@TrimeshSZ 4 месяца назад

It's really not useful - the problem is that the RTC is embedded into the MCPX chip, and that's built using a process technology that has high speed, but also significant leakage. As a result, the current drain would kill a coin cell in a quite short period of time, which is presumably why MS went with the supercap approach in the first place.

@Boru06 4 месяца назад

@@TrimeshSZ Interesting mate, thanks for that. I've a lot to learn 🙃

@christopherdecorte1599 4 месяца назад

Great video would still replace the belt though they are super cheap. As long as the drive opens it can be charged with a tweezer thats how i charged mine.

@tigerrick 4 месяца назад

Brilliant vid, Ste. Keep up the great work 😂

@daniel070487 Час назад

13:25 FYI you can actually see where plus and minus is, cause it's in the metal stamped 😂

@riparaggi 4 месяца назад

beautiful content! for your SuuuuUPER CAPACITORRRR polarity check look at point soldering shape, one side is minus shaped and the other has a PLUS shape, nice!!

@Toni-bf6fy 4 месяца назад

I’ve been watching for a long time now which gave me confidence und fixing stuff so I ordered my broken Xbox a week ago and am now just waiting on parts to fix. The only problem I have is the case which is completely busted lol

@telecomsuk 3 месяца назад

I bought a new one of these in 2002, upgraded the HD and software, then swapped all to a crystal case with crystal controllers when I could get hold of a crystal case . Still works great even in 2024.

@PepsiManX360 4 месяца назад

The thermal paste on the smaller chip made my OCD spike to unhealthy levels.

@robertomoi2044 4 месяца назад

This takes Me back. I remember the disc drive has to be specific to the board or u have to flash it.

@superamario6464 4 месяца назад

Ah Lees Games! Got my white gamecube from there in 2013! Lovely part of the north west.

@harringtonceramics2146 4 месяца назад

Cheers dood. Appreciated 🤘🏻

@dean8644 4 месяца назад

Love your channel always makes me laugh keep it up

@krispysox 3 месяца назад

Just found and subbed! It's like My Mate Vince with good tunes :)

@YellowElevator815 Месяц назад

most others have already commented the same stuff: dont replace the clock cap on any 1.6 xbox's, unless you see visible leakage. The infamous leaky clock cap of these OG xboxes only affected revisions 1.0-1.5. All crystals for the most part will be 1.6. Another way you can tell is the "Xcalibur" video encoder chip above the GPU, that has a big discernable X on it. That Hexen disc is a tool for modded xboxes only. Without a soft or hard mod, the disc will not play.

@Warface 4 месяца назад

That beat from Matt Large - No bueno is fire!

@pappachook 3 месяца назад

Loved the Inception moment.

@KeyringHardhat 4 месяца назад

My disc tray did this on my console as a kid, a firm thump to the top when pressing the open button did the trick.

@MichaBloggt 4 месяца назад

I Love the Crsytal Case !

@IamNotANumber 4 месяца назад

I wouldn't mind another video learning my times tables with you.

@Aesop531 4 месяца назад

It was a pleasure. Great, entertaining, education!

@essexlad8151 2 месяца назад

That was one sexy clean looking xbox! Must of been kept in a box/bag all this time and really looked after when it was working.

@MauR1CEnl 4 месяца назад

Waking up on sunday with a cup of coffee and a new video. Life is good. ☕️😊

@edwardbwmn 4 месяца назад

Steve you never fail to put a smile on my face

@waitingtoconnect 4 месяца назад

Love the duke controller!

@MrBlingBlingNr1 4 месяца назад

the crystal case looks nice

@rexlawrence1168 2 месяца назад

Your shirt cracked me up. Nice to know Hawkins Police have tshirts to send out.

@ThemeParksAndAttractions 4 месяца назад

Great video 👌

@tazzyicehockey7329 4 месяца назад

Awesome 👌 score there legend.

@ralphj4012 4 месяца назад

Definite value for money. Advise against connecting / disconnecting powered mains cables (although the crackle is amusing, eventually leads to pin degradation and arcing). 1 + 2 x 3 is?

@TootEmCarMan 3 месяца назад

Back in the good 'ol days I had an Xbox. Used to go to a friends house and play networked games. I modified my Xbox by replacing the 40 way data cable with an 80 way one. I didn't tell my friends what I had done and after a while they noticed that my Xbox was loading games much faster than their Xboxes. If you can find an 80 way cable it might be a bit of fun for you to try out. :)

@enchantededition6879 Месяц назад

I would have started with the side eject slot through the side grill to start with. Manual ejection baby 👌 That capacitor literally has plus and Minus on it as well as arrows 🤣👍

@Wii1235 4 месяца назад

This makes me more confident to open up my own XBOX to fix the disc drive and replace the SUPERCAPACITOR!

@decisionsdecisions8906 4 месяца назад

By far one of the best consoles for design in my opinion I need to get one again for the original games, I remember getting it one Christmas and playing forza

@matthewmaidment8464 4 месяца назад

Looks like a 1.6 clock cap is better quality and doesn't need changing, it only asked for time because its been unplugged. Clock cap holds power for about 6 hours if console unplugged. Edit also that hexen 2018 is for flashing mods and stuff, won't read it because you need either a top flash or modchip.

@MyRegardsToTheDodo 4 месяца назад

With the 1.6 boards it's more likely that the caps around the power supply go, the clock cap generally is fine.

@matthewmaidment8464 4 месяца назад

@MyRegardsToTheDodo that's correct, also the cpu caps but looking at stez's the caps look pretty good its probably the cleanest I have seen. I have a v1.4 crystal with aladin chip just waiting on a 4tb ssd to arrive for it, flash it then with cerbios and I'm good to go and have also painted it and added some leds to controller ports, 80 pin ide and ide to sata adapter.

@boblambert8985 4 месяца назад

HeXEN also works on softmod Xboxes...

@UnCoolDad 4 месяца назад

To remove stuck heat sink, a twist is better than a tug.

@TheCustomFHD 4 месяца назад

A wiggle even better.

@spottedtango 4 месяца назад

OGX heatsinks are walled in by a frame, making a twist impossible. They also use a "sticky" paste, not quite true thermal epoxy, not quite thermal paste. You should only attempt removal of the heatsinks when they are hot, as once they are, the paste/epoxy becomes liquid and only a gentle tug is required to break contact. Seen people rip off the caps and dies of the OGX CPUs and GPUs going ham on them when they're cold.

@UnCoolDad 4 месяца назад

@@spottedtango looking at this video where the heat sinks are cleaned, they look perfectly smooth here. No frame.

@spottedtango 4 месяца назад

@@UnCoolDad What's that black plastic the mounting clips attach to 8:54 ? That's what I'm talking about. The heatsinks are recessed in that frame and only allow very slight rotation before interfering. Good enough to give it a slight twist to see if the paste is liquid enough to pull on; but not enough to break contact.

@UnCoolDad 4 месяца назад

@@spottedtango ah, I see what you mean now. I suppose if you can do a slight wiggle from side to side, it may help release too - with some heat. Will keep that in mind 👍🏻

@flumphflumph6021 4 месяца назад

Amazing. The Disc Drive reads Discs. I hope you know how rare that is nowadays, especially for a Crystal Xbox.

@brianstuntman4368 28 дней назад

I've always been of the understanding that if the thermal paste spreads beyond the top of the CPU/GPU die it could actually hold some heat in. I hate those plastic spring clips that hold the heat sink down. I'm always terrified they'll snap! The Crystal case does look nice.