I bought a RTX4090! WHAT A DIFFERENCE! 

You're lucky to be a pilot and from Germany! As a poor engineer in Turkey, 4090 would cost me 6 months of income thanks to Erdo

Welcome to the club! Upgraded a while ago to a 4090 and 7800x3d, the experience is super smooth. :)

Congrats on the new card! Have you tried the ' Forest enhancement mod ' yet? There are few addons to help 'control' vegetation. It helps make cities look more like cities.

Congrats on your purchase! I've been using a 4090 in VR for a while now and that's not using frame generation but it's an absolute game changer for VR as it makes it possible to run 2500 x 2500 per eye displays in high settings in MSFS and it looks absolutely georgeous. I had switched back to DX11, so thanks for the reminder for DX12+FG, I'd forgotten that for the flat screen. 👍

I got a 4070 TI last year and what you said. Total game changer. Had to upgrade the CPU as well because it could not keep up with the card. If I get any short stutter, it is now because the servers cant deliver fast enough when flying low in a military jet.

I also switched to a 4090 last week, and I got to say, it is quite amazing (coming from a 3070Ti). Same thoughts process as you, with the addition of considering VRAM. Initially I was going for the 4080, but as games tend to use more and more VRAM, I ended up buying the 4090 as it as more VRAM than the 4080.

I have a pny 4090.I am a vr user upgraded from a 3080 and its a huge difference,All the 4090s are pretty much the same so dont worry about not getting the most expensive one,The Zotac card will serve you just fine.

Been watching a lot of your videos ever since I got into Flight Simulators. I've also looked up a lot of "improve-your-graphics" videos on RU-vid and beyond, but the settings you mentioned in the beginning of the video shot my FPS from mid 60s to high 100s. Absolutely insane! I love it. (W/ RTX 3080)

I installed my 4070 yesterday as well and what can I say. For wqhd no higher card is necessary. I can land on KLAX from Ini with FSLTL and Fenix and this brings constant 60 locked fps. By using an older 10th Gen I 9

Congratulations for the graphics card, enjoy it! I also had a 3080 TI and recently I bought an RTX 4080 and the difference is incredible.

Hi Emi!! Have you tried it with PMDG 737?? I’m still sticking to TAA due to the blurring at the 737 screens - mainly the numbers. That annoys me a lot… have a nice weekend!!!

Congratulations on your purchase! I went for 13700k with 4080 FE for my new setup, the sim looks really awesome, everything is so smooth🔥

Congratulations brother! You made a good purchase for sure. I really like mine it's a huge upgrade on everything for my setup, not just MSFS. The one thing I would heavily advise caution on is the power connector on the card itself. These connectors are known to be finicky. I wouldn't add any power cable modifications what so ever, no 90-degree connectors, power extension cables, and avoid any aggressive bending or stress on the connector during your cable management. Finally I would also suggest that your 4090 have 3 dedicated PCIe cables connected to it. The card pulls a lot of power and splitting a PCIe cable can be a risky idea. You are also 100% correct regarding the frame generation compatibility. All 40 series cards are equipment with that option. The biggest difference is the 4090 has considerably more vram. If you don't all ready you might look into MSI afterburner over clocking software. You don't necessarily need to overclock your card, but it's nice to make sure the voltage is unlocked so you're able to get 100% of the card when it's needed. If you do decide you want to try out Afterburner, just make sure you get it from MSI's official website. There was a fake version of the software going around a while ago that had malicious software in it.

Hi Emmanuel, I am on a 4080 and I was very annoyed by the stutters you mentioned when moving around fast. That is due to the frame generation. I turned it off and switched back to DX11 and still get a decent fps around 50 with my card. With your card you should definitely get 60+ which is enough for a smooth experience.

The usual no 1 reason you don't get better performance is that MSFS is so CPU limited that the GPU doesn't get fully used. So frame generation is really a life safer here :) Apart from that you can crank up all the settings that are not CPU dependent and enjoy it. It varies but I found that changing the Fenix settings to use the GPU for display rendering gave me 2-3 frames more as well.

Just bought one as well. Went for the optimisation default using Geforce experience. All settings on high DLSS on. Went from 40FPS with a 3080to well over 100FPS. Drops to 40FPS at busy airports. A real game changer for me. Graphics are pin sharp in 2D with DLSS on.

Looks awesome! That's what I'm hoping for jumping from my 1080Ti lol. Did you buy a new power supply? I was thinking of upgrading to an ATX 3.0 PSU.

I recently upgraded from 3070 to 4070 and I can tell you, the difference is also night and day, believe me , no need to go all the way to 4090 . I am honestly experiencing such a huge difference, settings 2k on ultra wide monitor, TAA, DX12 and rtx turned on via nvidia , almost everything on ultra high in sim and so far smooth as butter, I paired my 4070 with i7 10700k, 32gb 3600 mhz ram and windows 11

Very nice upgrade captain! I think that your micro stutters might be due to your CPU. Cause in order to really take advantage of a 4090, your CPU needs to be recent, otherwise you can experience bottlenecking.

Great cards! I got myself a RTX4080 and DX12 with FSR indeed gave a lot more performance. However, DX12 still has a super annoying bug with occasionally disappearing ground textures at the airports. That plus screen tearing that was a bit hard to manage even with v-sync (I don’t have a GSync monitor) made me go back to DX11. Still getting very decent frame rates with it though!

Wonder how DX12 will perform overtime, I saw lots of people complaining about it due various bugs. This could really help me in the future when I get a better screen, right now I have 1080p one and my 4080 just doesn't care how much I crank up the settings in any game 😂 it barely heats up to start slowly spinning its fans.

Happy to see your up and running with photogrammetry. Didn’t realize u had it turned off with your previous videos. Interestingly, i have a a RTX 3070 and my photogrammetry is active with most other settings ultra high and i have no issue. But i do like the idea of a 4090 graphics card. Maybe I’ll take the plunge! By the way, that airfield on the left when making Canarsie approach is Floyd Bennett field.

Having the extra vram also helps. I’ve flown into a few sceneries that us up to 20gb. Not having enough vram can also cause stutters. Great card, enjoy.

Congratz on the new card. I am a little surprised that the Nvdia RTX3080 dit not work with you. Although I do not have KJFK jet, I do have Manchester, Brussels and London Heatrow and have no problems at all and everything on Ultra, with GSX and FSLTL Live traffic in combination with Justflight FStrafic. Maybe it is my SSD of other hardware which makes the difference. But I am wondering why with some people it just works and with others not.

Hi there. Congratulations on the new card. I have one too and had a 3090 before and the difference is amazing. With only the Fenix or the PMDG frame rates are perfect. But then come other mods, like FSLTL for instance and then you feel the limit of the card again.

Hoping I can get a 4090 too soon. Anyway I talked to you on the ground at Boston yesterday, hope you had a good time!

Congrats❤❤ I look forward to your videos. Maybe now you can see your pilot's retinas when you zoom in 😄

I'm really thinking about what to do... currently, I've got a RTX 3090 Ti X. It's obviously very strong, still I sometimes get fps issues. Now, what? Buy a 4090, loose over 1000€ when selling a not even a year old graphics card? Or getting a 4070/4080? Maybe I get better MSFS issues, but what if the fps in other games are worse then..? And most important, how to tell your parents that the computer you told them was perfect (at the time it was really the best) is not outdated?

Thank you for sharing your views on the RTX 4090. Good luck with your type rating. 🤞😇

I am on a 1440K 60Hz Monitor. Got a 4070 TI Super, with a 10900K. Very happy with the performance. The combination works very well, very smoothly for me.

Just a heads up. If you get crashes mentioning the graphics card, turn DX12 OFF. Those crashes will go away.

The lead-in lights are an incredible addition to JFK and the first I've seen in over three decades of flight simming! Nice job inibuilds. I agree, that is an amazing approach due to the curving flight path along the Belt (Shore) Parkway. It looks awesome to watch from the ground as well. I lived in the area for several years. Also fun flight I've flown IRL (small GA aircraft) is from Republic Airport (KFRG) to the Hudson river corridor. JFK tower keeps you below the Class B at 500' MSL until approaching the Hudson. ATC actually says "at or below 500", but I stay as high as possible! 😆It's the only time I've ever flown at 500' for any length of time....along the beaches. Fun flying, but you have to be on your toes at all times. 😂 Enjoy the 4090, it's an incredible card and gives me a very enjoyable experience in VR (coming from a 3080), with DCS and MSFS (the only things I use it for).👌🏾

Congratulations on your purchase! That is the dream of many simmers for sure! At the moment I have the RTX2080 Super.

Congrats EMI!! Awesome video as always. Will use this as a guide while I enthusiastically await the arrival of my 4090😊

Congratulations on your purchase. That does make a big difference. I actually got myself also a Inno3D 4090 a couple of days ago, also without the RGB disco lighting. The 4090 is a real game changer with it’s 24Gb memory. In windows 11 there’s the same option in the Graphics settings. What I also did is turning off the Anisotropic Filtering in the MSFS and in the NVCP turned it on to x16. And least but not least I switched the Framerate Limit to 50%. It is as smooth it can be.

I too fly with a 4090. Frame Generation is by far one of Nvidia's best technologies in recent years, it's fantastic. I do have DLSS off in a majority of games due to the blurriness and artifacts.

I find it interesting you see such a difference. I have a 3090 right now and 90% of the time I'm being limited by the main thread on my Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU, not my GPU. I pretty much have everything on the GPU side set to Ultra with no effect on perf, but need to turn down CPU heavy things like traffic

Hi, I bought an RTX4070TI after a 3080TI, and the frame generation make a big difference! More than 60 FPS on 4K ULTRA settings, with the PMDG 737 and the Fenix A320, in bigs sceneries airports! The only issue I have is that I couldn't use the Nvidia filters with frame generation, the sim crash!! (I have an I7 9700KF CPU)

Thank you very much for this. I got my pc a week ago and haven’t turned on dlss frame gen because I didn’t realize I needed to reset my pc after turning on dx12. I was getting 20-30 fps at the flytampa Las Vegas scenery and now it feels like 60+

Congrats! I did as well two months ago, went from a gtx 1080 to a 4090 and the difference is insane.

Heya Emanuel, I also have a 4090, recently with the older drivers have been making my game crash with dx12. The new ones seem better, not sure yet, which NVIDIA drivers do you use?

Great demonstration and explanation! Thx for the video.

It's odd as I have super smooth frames at ultra on a 2.5k monitor with the 3080ti with the ini JFK - Perhaps my CPU is influencing things too. I still pick up stutters on your video and here's how you can get rid of them 1) Turn on V-sync 2) Turn on 50% monitor refresh and you'll experience even smoother performance

manuel.the biggest problem of the simulator is that it does not take advantage of the hardware, on the 4090 that I also use it maximum at 60%

Isn't MSFS more reliant on CPU? I wish I can just change my CPU but that's basically a new computer and you lose everything you have.

Very jealous! Not sure I’ll be able to afford this on top of a wedding and buying a house this year, perhaps a 5090 will be mine in the future 😂

I keep saying that i wont pay that much for a graphics card, but i find myself inching that way.

Emi, this is absolutely hilarious, I've had 4090 for close to 6 months now, I always thought Frame Generation is tied to DLSS and couldn't be selected with TAA and was just on DX11 till now, but wow was I f'ing wrong lmao. Thank you for this lol

Your next step is the 7950X3D :) Frame generation does double your performance, but it's highly dependent on your base FPS, i.e. whatever you get before adding Frame Generation into the mix. Your 9900K is probably really struggling here. If you look at the debugging FPS window in MSFS (which always shows the *pre* Frame Generation FPS stat), you'll probably see you're limited by "mainthread" which is the CPU. Upgrading to a 7800X3D or 7950X3D will greatly improve your base FPS, which will then get doubled by Frame Generation. Just make sure you get some nice EXPO-supported 6000MHz CL30 RAM with it (Trident Z Neo (Neo specifically)) are a great kit that will work just fine) Deciding which GPU to get really comes down to your specific system, if you're heavily CPU limited, upgrade to any 40-series won't improve your framerate outside of turning on frame generation. Combining that with a better CPU will improve both your base frame rate, and frame generation will double your frame rate. If you upgrade to a 7800 or 7950X3D for example, a 4080 will basically be good enough for getting similar performance to what you're getting, because the GPU is so good that now you're CPU limited. Just about deciding what to get.

On another note, have you tried using the RTX 4090 in an AI traffic heavy environment, e.g., with 50+ AI airplanes (FS Traffic/FSLTL/AIG) in the air? What were the results? My RTX 3090 would usually let me fly quite ok at KJFK and similar places with high graphics settings unless with traffic. Traffic has always been the killer.

Yup man same, upgraded to a 4090/13900ks and honestly, it seems thats whats needed

Ho Emanuel. Congrats to your 4090 . Great gpu. I am Also in the Prozess of upgradibg my PC. But i thought it was better to keep the 3080 oder 3080ti and instead upgrade the cpu . Why did you go with the gpu and bot a better cpu? The 9900k is quiet old

I upgraded to the MSI RTX 4090 Gaming Trio X and .... A huge game changer! You are correct. The smoothness of the sim is amazing now and the visual look incredible. I wen from a MSI RTX 3080 Gaming Trio card to the 4090. Well worth the money!

What is your power supply and how many watts does your RTX 4090 require?

I got a 3080, and still has the same performance issues because of the main thread bottleneck

Thanks for this video, Emanuel. I have replaced my 3090 with 4070 Ti and can confirm the benefits that frame generation is giving to the MSFS. What I am missing in your video are details to your settings because you can easily CPU bottle neck the 4090 by setting higher values of objects and terrain level of details and traffic options such as airport objects and road vehicles. You have not the best CPU in your system and it would be nice to see what settings are you using here.

Got a 4090 too, but now also changed my cpu from ryzen9 9595 to a 7800x3d again a huge difference ❤

Thanks for this video, very insightful. For the question of 'which RTX 4090 to buy', when I bought my RTX 3090 a while ago, I looked a little bit into that issue and found that some of the cheaper models have occasionally been reported to be having poorer cooling quality, which may lead to reduced performance. Either way, your card seems to be operating fine - congrats on your purchase.

I am new to flight sim and was expecting so much better. the rolling pixelization in the foreground was so unrealistic.

You seem to be getting about the same performance as I'm getting on my 3080 while running in 7680x1440. On my pc the 10920X CPU is the bottleneck according to the MSFS stats. I think your fps issue might have been related to recording ? GPU accelerated recording has a very big impact on frames.

One major difference when using TAA (for me no significant differences on FPS) is that TAA does use more GPU and the card works hotter.

Hey Armano, go to 5800x3d or even 7800x3d then you will see difference. Raw power of 4090 generating frame is just half of the impression.

Great example of frame gen! I wonder if having more than 12GB of ram is meaningful? If FS2020 is trying to use, say 12.6GB of VRAM and you have a 3080Ti, it’s a mess. Having *almost* enough ram is frustrating.

Need to get used you flying a 320 :) hope you’ll have a lot of fun with the 4090, looks like you do!

you are the only one uploading regularly and I'm kinda excited to see more of "MSFS 4000 series" videos! keep it up captain

I wonder if it's not just a matter of increased VRAM (12->24). I recently changed my 3080Ti to a RTX 3090 (used, almost same price now) exactly for the reason to improve performance in heavy sceneries and there is also a massive difference. In heavy sceneries I get around 16GB of VRAM usage now, so 12GB was clearly not enough. Of course the 4090 is also much faster, so there is extra benefit, but as for the stutters and unusable sceneries I think the main reason was that 12GB of VRAM was simply not enough.

Frame Generation is just a crutch though that also reduces visual quality quiet a bit, especially during fast camera movements. The bigger problem with the MSFS is actually the mainthread that just clogs your CPU. Even with a 5800X3D FPS drop below 30FPS without frame generation, because the mainthread on one of the CPU cores just limits everything else. No matter how much performance the graphics card has left, no matter how much idle cores your CPU has overall. I don't think that even something like an 13900K would fix that. Also for the 4090 the version very much doesn't matter as long as the cooler is good enough. The voltage is fixed by Nvidia anyway, so even the more expansive versions can't really push the clock much outside of what the chip can take with the set voltage limit and that is a lottery anyway. So you might end up with a "cheaper" version running faster than a more expansive version.

Hab ich vor ein paar Tagen gesagt du bringst immer das passende Video? Ist wieder der Fall, kaufe auch bald eine 4090^^

Finished watching this video and immediately went to check my settings… somehow all this time I thought I was using DLSS with my 4080 but I was NOT 😅 Turned it on and went from 40 FPS at FSDreamTeam’s KORD to 100+!! What an improvement! Thanks again Captain!! 🤘🏻

Wow, a lot of people talking about how much of a upgrade 4090 from a 30 series card is, meanwhile I’m out here on my 1660 struggling to pull 15-20fps on med-high or even less at some of the busier airports. Would love a new gpu but got too many things to sort out before that. Sure the graphics are nice and all, but this frame rate takes me back to playing fsx on my old laptop.

Gotta love that frame generation! I’m loving my 4080!

I have a 4090 too now, what do you recommend for Nvidia control panel settings as I can't decide thanks

Nice video, but it would have been useful to see an FPS counter on the screen. I can see that it looks smooth, but I have no idea what your frame rate actually is. I suppose if it looks smooth, that's all that matters, but still, it would be nice to get some rough idea of the numeric improvement from the 3080 to the 4090 on your system.

Upgraded from a gtx 1660ti to the rtx 4070ti a few days ago, really looking forward to see the difference in performance haha

My 4090 took some tweaking to get it best with my 12900. Simply cannot fly NYC with Samscene, LGA, FSLTL and real weather addons in VR. It’s still horrific. With this new driver, I’ll try these 2D settings in DX12 (hopefully no ctds) and see if it improves the VR experience. Thx! UPDATE; I tried these exact settings and immediately got CTD when starting a flight! DX12 is the culprit, even with this new driver. Back to DX11 and all is well (but only around 30-45 fps). Oh well.

I bought a 3070TI about a month before 4000 series was announced. Made a difference from 1660 Super but really need to upgrade CPU now

Honestly, at least in the recorded video, the stutters while panning is awful, I couldn’t deal with that. Don’t know if it’s that bad your end, and everyone notices stutters and frame rate differently. Also DX12 just adds so many bigger stutters with my 3090 I just can’t use it. I’ll be waiting till the 5090 is released before upgrading again, that and the rest of the main parts of my PC.

Just wait til you try a 4090 in VR. I am waiting for my Pimax Cystal, currently using a Pimax 8KX. I'll never go back to a flat sceen... I have spent years constantly twigging old computers to achieve performance and graphics, thanks to my 4090 that has stopped. - Thank's Emanuelel, Greetings from Australia.

Is your 4090 always at 99% ? I have a 11900k at 5.p ghz and a 1080ti onn1440 p and I will still be cpu limited so I don’t k ow if it’s worth to upgrade my 1080Ti

The stuttering is not from the 4090 but from CPU. MSFS is notoriously unoptimized cpu wise so it’s very easy to be CPU bottlenecked

You deserve this and more, man! Congrats! It’s my dream GPU. Mine is an old AMD RX580 that overheats daily (if not 5 times a day), where I can’t play a game and watch a video at the same time. Unfortunately I can’t fly during summer days (it gets up to 120F where I live) and can only do very short night flights. Hopefully prices will go down soon…I really miss Boeing. Keeping memory fresh with daily dose of CBT and 737NGDriver ❤

Hi! Do you think 4070i will run MS2020 LIKE THE 4090 smoothly too? or would you recommend 4090?

You mentioned that in your former airline company you would never have been allowed to fly an approach like the 13 visual. Could you elaborate on this? why? why would some companies allow to fly such an approach but not others? Many thanks for the great content of this channel by the way.

Am IO the only one seeing that too many green areas are overgrown green? How about turning 'Grass and Bushes' down to medium?

TAA plus Frame Generation is basically the best you can get in MSFS on my 4090 anyway.

I’ve had issues with graphical glitching on the edge of my screen on takeoff and landings with the RTX 4090 and frame generation on. Experienced this issue at all? My specs are similar to yours.

Still with my 3090 and wondering if the rog or suprim x 4090 is worth for upgrading.

Good information. Especially regarding DLSS vs TAA

Now you only need an HDR capable monitor for the ultimate experience. It improves image a lot.

Hey Guys, what Nvidia driver do you use with the 4090 ? I just installed it and have crashes issues.

yeah its so nice using frame generation. Also it goes very very well when streaming

I have the 3090 ftw3 ultra and 8086k @ 5.4Ghz delit can not use jfk at all, my frames is 11-19,I'm getting the 14900k and 4090 on black friday, by the way That's Canarsie approach,

Next to HAGS it is also important to make sure that ReBar is activated

Not sure if the card is the issue… a 3080 should work perfectly. It doesn’t. Nvidia has an issue. I’m not sure if this is deliberate to get people to buy new video cards. The software updates create a problem of video cache overflow. The cache is set to small when the driver is updated. THIS IS THE PROBLEM. I know this is the problem because I’ve gone in and deleted the files left inside the Nvidia cache and increased the size of the video cache from 1 gig to 100 gig and ALL my games work again. It was recommended by another simmer to make it 10 gig min. 10 gig worked, I made mine 100 gig to make sure it didn’t over flow. NOTE… when I flew numerous different aircraft in one day… like 20 different aircraft, it overflowed even with 100 gig. This means you have to regularly go into the Nvidia cache and delete the files. Note… this is not the cache inside MSFS. That is for pre- scenery cache. Nvidia cache is in the Nvidia folder called cache.

I currently have an RTX3080 Founders Edition paired with my I-7 12700K and 32GB DDR5 RAM. I am seriously thinking about getting the RTX4080 soon. Right now, Amazon has the PNY RTX4080 under MSRP for $1149USD and I currently have $115USD cash rewards on my Amazon Visa credit card I can use towards a purchase. I am waiting until I have $150USD cash rewards so I can get the GPU for $1000USD. Then when I make my purchase on Amazon with my credit card I will get 5% cash back rewards for the purchase, essentially another $50USD cash rewards. So with tax, I should be able to get the card for a net of about $1000USD. I will then try to sell my RTX3080 for about $400USD so that a $1200USD GPU only costs me about $600USD out of pocket.

Wow! That 4090 and the approach were the bomb! Just awsome.

I recently upgraded to a 4070Ti, along with a new motherboard, i9-13900KF CPU, 32 gigs of DDR5, and a new heatsink, so basically everything! The 4070Ti is a great improvement over my 1070Ti, but I'm still fiddling with the settings. The difference with your setup is that I use DLSS. I'll try TAA to see how that works. With frame generation enabled, I usually get between 80 and 140 FPS. And no, I can't run everything on Ultra on my 4K monitor. My main issue at the moment is with the CPU. The i9 runs very, very hot and can easily hit 100 degrees Celsius. It is supposedly capable of doing that without problems, but I don't like it... I'll boil my water elsewhere! When it gets in the 85C plus range, it enables the "thermal throttling" function, which essentially limits the CPU output to let it cool down. So I use the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility to help keep things cool, since I can switch between maximum power, normal use and energy saving modes. I use CPU maximum power on takeoffs and landings in very demanding graphic environments, Toronto Pearson is my benchmark, and energy saving mode for 90% of the flights. Energy saving mode keeps the temps in the 50-70 range, normal use between 60-75 and maximum power will easily put the CPU in the 80 plus range. To monitor how things are going under the hood, I bought a small utility program called FPS monitor, which opens a small box on the screen and shows FPS of course, but also CPU and GPU loads and temperatures in real time. Keeping the temps under control usually limits thermal throttling between 0 and 2% of the flight duration. Overkill probably, but it gives me peace of mind over a rather costly investment.

Does anyone think the 3080-3090 is good enough?

Hi, first of all, thank you for this very informative and clear videao about the GPU, looks really great. But I don't think that the dev's will stop paying attention to performance as not every user is going to be able to afford a 4070-4090. All the best for your type rating and have a nice day!

Have you noticed cpu bottleneck now ? After I've got my 3080 Ti, my i7 9th gen became the bottleneck if I have live traffic on, via fs2020 or something like FSLTL, if I dont have any traffic it's very smooth, almost 60fps at 4k on the heaviest scenarios