I Bought A SIGMA Metalytics This Week

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I bought a Sigma Metalytics Verifier machine this week to test for any fake silver or precious metals, bullion, or coins, in my stack. Join me as I review the Sigma Metalytics Original Bullion Set SM1501.
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@S.G.T.Stacking Год назад

Nice pick up Weekly, that was a smart move in my opinion! I use the bullion wand to test all my 5+ oz bars and coins because it's meant to penetrate deeper in the sample. The Sigma does have issues when testing high relief or toned samples, just a heads up. Also, the machine has the option to test 90% silver but its pointless becsuse even clad coins pass the test and thats because 90% silver coins and clad both have similar resistivities. I actually just uploaded a video on this topic, haven't heard anyone talk about this issue, so i figured it would be a good idea.

@weeklybullion 11 месяцев назад

Hey, S.G.T. I saw your video, and it was awesome. Thanks for pointing out the limitations on the 90% Silver. Right now, I'm just systematically back-testing everything in my stack to make sure I don't have any less-than-pure samples. I'll link to your video, here! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-G5HdJ29tUFs.html

@S.G.T.Stacking 11 месяцев назад

@@weeklybullionI did the same exact thing when I bought mine as well! It's a relief knowing everything is legit. Thanks for the support brother! Much appreciated!

@StackThatGold Год назад

Sometimes a raised edge will throw the machine off a bit. I think thats why its changing a bit. Like you said as long as its within the bracket 99% of the time its real. Only exception is for pre-33. Had it test as real but it was a recast coin made from an old worn down pre-33 coin. I've had a Sigma for a couple of years and it's paid for itself.

@weeklybullion Год назад

Thanks for the information, StackThatGold. Yes, I think raised edge was throwing it off just a bit. But I should weight the bar for complete testing as well.

@send2georgie_S2G Год назад

Awesome WB. Congrats on getting your Sigma. The best tool for verifying your silvers, for sure. Cheers and thanks for sharing ✌🏻😊

@koinkollector2873 Год назад

Great idea to get the PMV. I once bought a seated half-dime from a dealer and sent it to NGC. It was fake and under weight too. I test everything now, lesson learned.

@trmccann Год назад

Nice, thanks for the demo

@meteoman7958 Год назад

Hi Weekly, according to my sources, all RCM 10oz bars were made with serial numbers, but some may have slipped through without. This would make your bar quite rare.

@weeklybullion 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for that information, Meteoman. I'm still puzzled by this bar. Let me know what else you find out!

@mikes1776 8 месяцев назад

I use the Sigma first, then weigh it, check dimensions, do a magnetic slide test, and check it’s specific gravity. Many bars do not have serial numbers even though there is a spot for them.

@weeklybullion 8 месяцев назад

Nice info on the bars. Its a good idea to perform all the tests you mentioned. I just need to get into the habit of doing it regularly - as soon as I purchase the precious metals. Always good to check em!

@aaronschmelczer5779 Год назад

Hi. Thank you for all your post. I have a large collection of RCM It’s the first time I see one with out the serial numbers. Some of the RCM bars are made by different companies.

@weeklybullion Год назад

Thanks for your input, Aaron. Different companies? Can you elaborate?

@CuSTACKS Год назад

I have the Pro it reads measurements too but your reads the surface it's good but not the end all be all. It will definitely help gain your confidence though. Enjoy Stacker!

@weeklybullion Год назад

Thank you, CanaryD123. Anything that builds confidence in the validity of my stack is good! Thanks for your comment, and Happy 4th🇺🇸, my friend!

@johnyaniuk1254 Год назад

I have this machine and the 3 wands that come with it. The sensor on top is for coins only. The wands are for bars and unique sized coins like 1/10 ozT in size. Do not use the wands to test anything whilst positioning the object you are testing on top of the machine sensor. Test that bar (or anything) on a flat surface like a table when using any wand. Good video.

@JRJStacks Год назад

Thanks for that information. What are the 2 other wands used for?

@johnyaniuk1254 Год назад

@@JRJStacks 3 wands. For whatever size of bullion bar is being tested. Or coin. But because I was testing a 1/10th OzT PLATINUM Britannia and I wasn't having success getting an accurate reading or any reading whatsoever on the coin sensor of the tester, I switched to the smallest wand. The sensor tip accommodated the tiny coin in its entirety in diameter. The other 2 sensor wands are medium and large. Google it. All 3 wands are primarily for bullion bars whether they are 1 gram gold, silver or platinum up to a 100 OzT bar of the same metals. Ideally the best sensor for coins is the top main sensor. It seems most accurate with Coins above 1/10th OzT.

@weeklybullion Год назад

Thanks for the input. I'll make sure to lay the bars on a flat surface. I'm just getting used to testing with the machine, but thus far, I've been very impressed with it. Thanks for your comment, my friend!

@johnyaniuk1254 Год назад

@@weeklybullion there should have been an instruction booklet that came with the Sigma. It explains everything.

@rasbobbo Год назад

Cool new toy, gives you a reason to play with your silver.

@weeklybullion Год назад

Yep. The Sigma will provide me with hours of fun! 🤣 Thanks for watching the video, my friend!

@TtheSilverStacker Год назад

Excellent tool!

@weeklybullion Год назад

It's definitely a fun tool. Glad to have it. Happy 4th🇺🇸, my friend!

@Wes_Stacks 11 месяцев назад

Error bar list it for one of those 1 trillion dollar coins from the FED lol. Its the raised edging that might be throwing it off.

@silversliver3827 Год назад

RCM bars have a rieded edge. All of mine do.

@JRJStacks Год назад

Nice machine, Weekly! I would say that rcm bar has a little higher value maybe. I have one with a double die strike serial number. I bought capsules for my 10 oz RCM bars and they fall apart so easily i wish I had just kept the bars in the wrappers.

@weeklybullion Год назад

Thanks, JeremyStacker! I'm still not sure what to make of this bar. Yours with the double die strike seems like a pretty cool on to have.

@meteoman7958 Год назад

Actually, all the serial numbers have a doubled effect.

@JRJStacks Год назад

@@meteoman7958 This is the only one I've ever seen stamped like a 55 double die.

@PrepperJAC 11 месяцев назад

I've used mine for years to test any purchases I make. It was spendy but worth the peace of mind

@weeklybullion 11 месяцев назад

Definitely adds to the piece of mind.... and I also find it entertaining as well. 😅

@hotstix7014 Год назад

Great machine I bought it a few years ago.. stacker shouldn’t be without it.. but the size of my collection it was a must buy.. however, it doesn’t go deep into the metal.. and it’s great for capsulated coins. I could be happier.

@weeklybullion Год назад

It seems to be better for coins. I'll weigh it. If it doesn't check out, then I guess I'll go to destructive testing?

@tslee8236 11 месяцев назад

@@weeklybullionDo an xrf analysis first before destructive testing. Find a dealer with an xrf spectrometer.

@paulbunyon6324 11 месяцев назад

All of my RCM 10 ounce bars have serial numbers. Looks like you have a rare exception.

@weeklybullion 11 месяцев назад

I think you may be right. That is starting to be the consensus amongst viewers who have researched it.

@Macro-Mania 5 месяцев назад

It’s worth the extra money to buy the Sigma Investor so you can test all the way through and do dimension test in one unit.

@weeklybullion 4 месяца назад

I agree.

@patrioticstacker Год назад

Smart buy Weekly 😎👊🏻

@weeklybullion Год назад

Happy 4th🇺🇸, my friend!👊🏽😎

@patrioticstacker Год назад

@@weeklybullion happy 4th bro 😎

@Stackollector512 Год назад

Always do three (3)tests. Weight. Magnet and Sigma. If any questions, do the calipers to verify diameter and height.

@weeklybullion 11 месяцев назад

I like your 3-test strategy. I also have some calipers. Good to do the testing routinely.

@michaelmorris1802 Год назад

Don't take this the wrong way... I don't own anything, so I can't evaluate anything I have... but the machine you have reads only the surface... so that bar may yet be fake, and just encased in silver. You need to weigh it carefully, and then measure it carefully... based on the metal, and the thickness the length and width can be easily calculated (in fact your machine will do that for you)... so you can actually determine if it's silver all the way thru. just laying on the sensor is not enough... you have to measure it to be sure.

@tjf1531 Год назад

Reads all the way through

@michaelmorris1802 Год назад

@@tjf1531 You are simply incorrect... clearly you have not done your homework... but do as you wish with your money, both fake, and real. From Sigma: ATTENTION The PMV Original is not an all-in-one testing device. It is critically important to test the density of your samples in addition to testing the resistivity. The PMV Original only tests the resistivity of the sample. A sample can only be considered genuine if both the resistivity and density are correct. The PMV PRO series does test both density and resistivity, but when testing with the PMV Original, the user must test density separately on their own.

@weeklybullion Год назад

I'll weigh it. Now I've got to find a scale that can celebrate to a full 10 ozt.

@clintbennetsen6392 11 месяцев назад

@@tjf1531, WRONG!! Not that model.

@ThePatriotPirate 11 месяцев назад

Is this a pro machine? I got the mini, wondering if I should have the pro, but from my understanding the only difference was the pro model does bigger blocks. Maybe it also tests more types of metals though, not sure

@weeklybullion 11 месяцев назад

I got the PMV Original. It works pretty well, and there are different size wands which can accurately measure larger bars.

@ThePatriotPirate 11 месяцев назад

@@weeklybullion I liked all the different tests you did. Something odd going on with that Canadian bar. Funny how only the dead center seemed where it should be

@goldcic Год назад

Side wands on SIGMA! Maybe embedded 3 9s rod on side. ,❤️🐥

@goldcic Год назад

Small wand

@CORNILIOUSFTW 9 месяцев назад

Can you link that Sigma Verifier. I’m interested of getting one. Thanks

@weeklybullion 9 месяцев назад

www.sigmametalytics.com/original Hi my friend, attached is the link for the Sigma Metalytics Verifier.

@ForbiddenPlanet7777 8 месяцев назад

Is their any way every Sigma Metalytics Verifier owner can start a class action lawsuit against the company because we were led to believe that this detector could pick out a real silver quarter from a modern one in our pocket? If I had known the sigma can be fooled in so many ways I never would have bought one.

@weeklybullion 8 месяцев назад

Personally, I use multiple confirmatory methods in order to increase my level of confidence that I'm holding real silver.

@alanpecherer5705 8 месяцев назад

I don't think you can even imagine yourself in the coin or bullion business without one of these machines. It's just the way it is, every effing thing on the planet is capable of being faked and there is no shortage of people who will try.

@weeklybullion 8 месяцев назад

Very true, Alan. Thanks for watching the video!

@ly8370 6 месяцев назад

10yo technology with no database update from Sigma Metalytics, unlike the Pro and the newer Investor.

@weeklybullion 4 месяца назад

🤷🏾‍♂️

@martinstreasurehunting Год назад

Interesting

@weeklybullion Год назад

Indeed. 🤔

@greganweiler557 Год назад

Maybe they had a batch the mint forgot to add the serial numbers. It happens.

@weeklybullion 11 месяцев назад

I'm starting to think that this is the prevailing thought. Perhaps they didn't add a serial number.

@Terry-zr6ys Год назад

Do both sides.

@TheNumismatist1812 Год назад

Test has me nervous I have 500 ounces my self and hope I don’t have some fakes

@weeklybullion Год назад

I was just glad to get a machine. Hopefully it will catch a fake one-day.

@TheNumismatist1812 Год назад

@@weeklybullion hopefully you will have no fakes to catch. I probably need to look into investing into one of these machines

@ynot552 Год назад

Why not test gold?

@weeklybullion Год назад

Thanks for your comment! I'll be testing some gold on a future episode.

@08StreetGlide 5 месяцев назад

My understanding the original Sigma does not test all the way through. Could give you a false positive.

@weeklybullion 4 месяца назад

Now you tell me. 🤷🏾‍♂️

@ronaldhall2489 11 месяцев назад

That is a queer looking RCM bar and I never seen one without a number I think I would go and sell it and buy another. I am like you now the seeds of doubt have been sown. Good luck and good video

@ronaldhall2489 11 месяцев назад

I have 5 or more bars and they all have numbers

@weeklybullion 11 месяцев назад

I agree - once I have seeds of doubt, I just can't move forward. Unsure what I'll do with it. I'll probably specific gravity test it to ensure it's true silver, and then I'll have to sell it at spot... unless someone finds some special value in it.

@ronaldhall2489 11 месяцев назад

@@weeklybullion at least you will know where you stand and then you can move on. Good luck and it will be okay