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@@johncromwell915 Deuteronomy 22 5: The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. That was somewhat disappointing to see I'll be honest.
When I was in fourth / fifth grade in Portland I delivered 30 afternoon papers and a big Sunday morning paper and bought me a large skinny wheel 3-speed cruiser bicycle. I could stand on the pedals and coasting down the hill in the middle of the road swinging the bike left and right with my arms in the air until one day I ended up in the ditch. My family also delivered the morning paper until we made enough to buy our first color TV for the living room. That route was done in a station wagon as it was a cold snowy winter.
Crazy stuff, idk how we all used to pedal around as kids. I know for a fact nowadays that I wouldn't ride without electric and normal bikes aren't thrilling because I can't pick up a decent speed
As an ebike mechanic I found this very entertaining!!! For what it's worth most ebikes use bofeng motors with different branding on them. Awesome vid guys!!!
@@kyshawntv6285quite late, but unless you're looking at a used ebike... please save up for something decent. Even just the electronic system matters. Like, you can upgrade your groupset, wheels, fork and whatever, but if you buy an ebike for a thousand dollars new, you'll get a system that may or may not be supported by anyone in a year or two. Bosch, Shimano and Bafang are three household names for ebike systems which will be supported for quite a while. As an example: the Bosch classic system is more than 10 years old at this point, but you can still get parts, because they didn't make major changes until like 2021 or 2022. So let's say you buy a used bike with that old system, as long as you know what you're looking for, you can get a new motor, display, battery, cables, etc etc without running into trouble. And I've seen bikes with that system rolling into our shop with 25k miles on them. That's always something to consider
Not the ones i've got. Both were noisy and weak as hell compared to the branded Bafang i had. Both prebuilt. But maybe i'm just unlucky because they're a step up from the even worse.
DIY kits is the way to go. I took a pink razor pocket mod scooter and put a eBay 1800w motor kit and a 48v 20ah battery in it. Does 30mph, wheelies, 40 miles of range, and cost me about $600. And it looks completely stock
How long ago did you buy that kit? Seems like the batteries are more expensive than anything right now. Which kit did you order off eBay? I don't trust most of those companies specs
@@IQWhiteBearhonestly Chinese batteries get a bad rep, there are companies that actually make good ones the issue is people hoping to get realllly cheap ones and think it’s gonna be safe. I’d say never spend less than $200 for a 48v battery, and never spend less than $500 for 52v, $700 for 72v.
first I bought a Lectric XP 2 fr 999.99. ITs ok, but Im too big for it. Then I got NBpower 2000 watt hub motor (around 400) and 52 v 20 amp battery from Unit pac power (also around 400). Bought a used Jamis Durango 20 inch mtb for 100.00 off of fb marketplace and now cruise with no worries. Then I see they now have 5000 watt cyc mid drive for 1200 and am thinking of building that one on the Jamis.
Craig's bike also has settings for top speed that weren't modified. You can do that by pressing the two arrow keys and pressing the m key until you hit p14 and set it to about 30-35 amps.
@@any1alive voltage controls top speed, amps controls how quick it will hit top speed becuase there is more current (watts) being drawn at higher amps so yes, it would have helped alot in this situation
@@aaron092000 that's not how voltage or amps work at all, the only thing that affects top speed or acceleration is the total power output and the gearing. you can increase the power output via increasing voltage OR amps. current is not measured in watts either, but power is.
@@zacharyc6549 my explanation was meant for a gearless hub motor, I'm aware that you can also control the speed with gear ratios too. I'm pretty sure voltage controls speed, acceleration is controlled by the current or amps being put into the motor.
@nathanmcleay1791 he's right. A Complete 48v 750w ebike vs a 48v 1000w hub motor kit? One of these things is not like the other. It's certainly not comparing the most powerful kit vs the least. As prices vary between sellers, buying the most expensive product is not going to guarantee better performance.
Love these Amazon buy vids!! Thass some awesome "Tour Duh Perrnnsylvania" action!! Craig squawnched way down to get aerodynamic on the downhill run like he was goin' for the downhill speed record, down that volcano shown on ESPN8 "The Ocho". AWESOME!! 👍
Yeah I used the same kit for my first emtb and it was pretty great. I was able to go 30mph basically all the time. Only complaint I had was the weak connectors and the lack of torque. But overall it was a great entrance to e-bikes and in all costed me about $600 to build the bike (I used a cheap $98 steel Walmart bike)
I made 2 bikes and bought parts separately. The 1st one was on a 20"bike with a 1500w wheel. The torque on the smaller wheel was dangerous until you learn to ease in to it, I ended up on my back a couple times. The 2nd was a 26" mountain bike I bought from Walmart with same parts it was much easier to control and a bit faster. Top speed was 32mph on the 20" and 38mph on the 26". Both still run great and my 13 year old love the 20". We go riding all the time together and have a blast. Peace
@@phillipsmith1489 Greg! He's that one guy with the beard. Sometimes people mistakenly call him "Craig", but his real name is actually Greg. It's confusing until you get it all figured out like I have. 🤷♂️
(07:45) By design, the "suspension" is supposed to be mostly left up to the fat tires. Think what it would be like with street tires! (note: fat tires also don't fit in most city bus bike racks so mixed-mode trips (bikes + buses/trains) are out)
That's because Sean knows the age/maturity of his audience and panders like a pro. I mean, who doesn't want to be a ninja more than an inventory guy in a dress?!
Well THAT was fun! Cyrusher bikes usually turn out ok, but apparently support is not the best. The kit bike ran pretty well, but direct drive will be slower off the line than a 5x gear reduction motor if power levels are similar. A friend of mine has a 3T direct drive motor from an Onyx on his custom bike, and it will pull the front wheel off the ground at 30mph! Craig's battery is a Unit Pack Power, which is a good company. Three of my seven batteries are from them, and they all perform well. You can 3D print battery brackets that are surprisingly strong. Thanks for the video!
Voilamart kits are great! I made a 1000 watt system that went almost 30 mph, and I logged in at 1000 miles of use with no problems. You do need to be a bicycle mechanic to adapt this set
I've got the same hub. My dad fit it onto my mountain bike because I don't know how to work on bikes beyond the basics lol. Yeah easily 30mph maybe a little bit over. I have a 52v battery which probably gives me higher top speed.
4:51 This is why I don't buy those e-bike kits anymore lol. "It's always something." I bought 3 kits they all died within 1 week or 6 months. I bought a RadPower RadRover and it lasted 2 years before the LCD panel died, preventing the bike from turning on. Which might have been an easy fix if I could have figured out how to isolate the problem. Instead it took a total of 2 MONTHS to fix the issue, because every new part takes about 2 weeks to ship. Really bad. It's over a week for them to even get to your order because they just sit in queue with nobody working on it, or they only process and ship in batches once a week rather than individual orders.
*Everything you said about being a paperboy is wrong, and it’s the worst job ever. You do have a boss. You can’t work whenever you want, papers must be delivered by 6am. There’s no bikes all car. You must work every day, you can’t call out. You have to pick up papers by 3-4 am. You make anywhere from 130-250 a week depending on how many papers you have( literally like $7 an hour). You do get tips added onto that but only like 15% of people do that. And unless you are in a rich neighborhood your only getting $1-$4 a month per house that tips. If someone calls in and says their paper was late or not delivered you get docked $1-$2.50. And worst part is they take out no taxes because your an independent contractor. So come tax time you have to pay $1500-2000 per route. And some papers (like the one I worked at) you have to deliver to their doorstep. So every house you have to get out and run (walking will make you late) up to the house and back. So your spending 1-2 hours running every night, plus however long your driving. There is only one reason you should ever take this job. And that’s Christmas tips. You can get $800->$2000 in tips. Pick up a route in November (there are literally always routes open) around thanksgiving you put bulk Christmas postcards in with the paper with printed out little thank you messages and your name and address on it. Then checks just start pouring in. But don’t do it unless you get a rich town. Otherwise tips included your making 13 an hour.)*
Depends on where, I did a rural route, I was self employed, sure I had a contract to fulfill but every contactor does, no matter what business your in. You can negotiate your contract, I did about 70 miles 250 papers a night, bout 700 a week plus tips back when gas was under two bucks. Cops never messed with me because they see the blinking light and know your just doing your job. Basically drove around country roads smoking weed and jamming out with the dog and a buddy or two
I have the same Voilamart motor. Literally can not live without it. I have the 48V 1000W model that gets me a tops of 32MPH on flat road. I have never peddled it. It has never failed to get me where I need to go and back. I'd say it's the best thing I ever bought. I can weigh my bike down with easily an extra 50 or 60 pounds and it does not struggle hauling me, the cheap heavy battery I got for it and the extra weight. I spent about $450 on it, the battery and a cheap bike to put it on. The only advantage the other bike had was with the fat tires.
I added that same kit to my ebike to make it dual drive and it works fantastic.Mine will go 35 mph but I keep my tires infalted near the max so it makes a diffrence on speed.I have one year and over 1k on the setup and no problems yet.
@@chrisvilavelha I just did 111 miles--I pedal 90% of the time---and had half he battery left on the 14 ah and 75% left on the 20h--I have well over 100 mile range--but I have 2 batteries--48v 20 ah and a 48v 14 ah--and 2 motors.Even when it was stock i did 50 miles and still had half the battery left--but I pedal a lot of the time and use the motors for hills and trails.I also keep my tire pressure high which greatly increses the range.Takes about 4 hours to charge either battery.I have never even come close to draining any the batteries and usually get several days of riding before i have to charge any of them.BTW when i pedal I am doing it with the assist on 3 so not only do I get great range--but I am getting mild long and light comfortable cardio and get to enjoy biking now because I am not exhausted.
@@chrisvilavelha My battery was a cheap blue box Cao MM battery. 48V 1000W 10AH. I can get about 15 miles on one charge, in the best conditions, long flat road and coasting when I can, or going down a hill where I can. When fully depleted it takes about 5 hours to fully charge it.
@@khronin - Thank you very much for that very comprehensive reply Flanigan ! That sort of performance is exactly what I am looking for ! Cheers from Brazil !
Did this with a moped once (legally blind so no motorcycle license, and before they started requiring to have a license) , then traveled from south fla to the alabama line round trip. Had a bunch of local biker guys wanting to see me at daytona bike week so I stopped in on the way out. Was a lot of fun. :)
I have used dozens of the Voila Mart conversion kits and was surprised the see him lose at the drag race I got a top speed between 30 to 40 mph with most builds depending on the battery used, and I was wondering did you disconnect the 750w blue wire ? doing so makes the kit run at 1000w and much faster. I found for the money you can build a great Ebike for less than $800 using their kit and a bike you have already But the heart of the build is your battery if he had used a Hailong 48v 20ah 1600w Panasonic triangle battery, the other fellow would had been in the dress.
10:19 From my experience, the readout on the battery level is always inaccurate. My old battery for 2 years still reads 1 red bar but the LCD control panel on the bike shows it's fully charged, and I can get to work and back home no problem, so the LCD is not wrong either.
Just check the battery voltage if your display is able to show it to you. I know roughly exactly what percentage my battery is at all times and the bar on the screen doesn't make any sense it shows 1 bar at 48v when that's more like 40% on a 52v battery.
actually own the kit craig got lol (if its the 48v 1000w version) the power modes are only for the pedal assist and would get up to 35mph when pedaling hard, got it like two years ago for $300 controller+hub and $250 for the battery on amazon
I'm a semi daily Ebike commuter and i got a radrover 5. It's a good daily rider and unless it's snowing i dont mind the weather either. I can take dirt trails to and from work so I avoid traffic and when i do interact with it i can filter through the shoulder of the road. All in all if you have the ability to try it you should. Even if its just a few weeks of the year it's saved me 100s on gas while still getting me to work just as fast as a car when you count traffic For what he paid for the 1700 bike off Amazon he could have spent 300 more and got a radpower bike or an aventon or any good brand of bike. I like all E bikes just a point to hand out that a little more would've given you alot more
I've had to get more stitches from my paper route, than any other job I've had. Including 4 years of landscaping. I jumped every ditch and curb I saw, while carrying 30 pounds of newspapers.
Since I am a local to these guys, the videos crack me up. Knowing exactly where that Chic Fil a is, I'd laugh if I saw Craig drive up in a bike wearing that. I would never ride my bike on Fruitville Pike!
I bought that cheap electric bike kit off of eBay in 2020, under 500 bucks for the kit and a battery and I was going 40mph without pedaling. I later put it onto a downhill mountain bike frame and now I have a sweet little off-road bike
I really like the idea of a fat tyre bike as ONE of my bikes, but not if it is my only option. Around my area they would be fantastic for the mixed conditions. I am so envious of the options you get in America. Here the power and type limitations make most of this impossible. We need more up to date regulations for E-bikes.
I live in **THE** place fat tire bikes were designed for. Quite literally. My closest trail system is quite literally where the fat tire bike was refined at. They're sandy river trails next door to the company (QBP/Quality Bike Products/Surly/Salsa) that popularized fat bikes, and since it's Minnesota, they also had ample access to snow. I don't own a fat bike. They're toys. I ride practical bikes. Fat bikes are the thing to buy as a 3rd or 4th bike. I'd absolutely love to screw around with one on the trails....if I owned a car to drive it to and from the trailhead. No way in hell I'm going to put up with riding one on the road.
@@DonOblivious I use a fat tire to commute 27 miles round trip to work. I'm 6'4" 230 lbs. I need a beefy bike and my Fucare Gemini fits the bill. It's not a 4000 dollar " name brand " but it beats the heck out of my old Trek mountain bike for comfort and utility. I was going to go mid drive on the Trek but the hub motor needs less maintenance and I don't have to worry about chain issues. Each one has a place and price.
That was a great video lots of fun and a good review. I bought my bike on Amazon in February 2022. I tell you is very disappointing at first I had to upgrade just about everything except for the motor controller and battery. The brakes would not stop you they were dangerously weak. I got no support at all from the manufacturer.I did this to save money but you know the saying you get what you pay for. It is now a good bike but it’s because I was willing to upgrade it customize it to my specifications. I’m also a mechanic so it was no problem installing gutter and proper equipment. If I had to do it all over again I would go to a bike shop, where I would get support if needed.
speaking from someone whos been hospitalised, in a coma for a week and a half due to being knocked off my regular bike, helmets arent made to protect your face. its to protect your brain
Saying that you don't need a license for an e-bike is not always correct. To not need a license for one you have to make sure it fits in the legal guidelines for a class 2 e-bike, then within local laws. Like where I am its 750w and 20mph max to be legal without one. Were also allowed a throttle here, but a lot of places won't allow this.
Fun video! Sean, have you tried the battery check button when the battery switch is on? Mine will only read that way. Interesting to see you both take the opposite approach to riding electric bikes.
I had a voilamart 500w setup a few years ago setup to a 72v200amp sabvoton controller running it at like 4kw for about a year. Finally fried the halls at 450a phasem, motor was borderline on fire you coulda cooked a steak on it.. Was actually a halfway decent motor. Now I have a 2kw qsmotor that I regularly pull 8kw through and it never even gets hot.
What would you buy next? I want a nice setup, cheap. I'm 300 pounds and want to go 35-40 mph with a front hub. I need enough ah to go 15 miles per day for a work commute on nice days. What do you recommend?
@@jakefriesenjake what would si buy next,m a house in the Maldives kid. A 68 fast back all black. A lp670 in white. You're kidding yourself. Dream bigger get off the internete fella Read a book kid
@@UsaRubber what are you talking about? I just turned 44 years old. I have a house, a wife, a $4000 doggy, a 2015 mustang gt 5.0, a 1981 custom built Z28 (built by me), and a 2011 f150 twin turbo 4x4. I want to boogie around on an electric bike, to save gas for my Z28 while going to work. what's the big deal? I asked you a question, that's it. Not talking about your life choices, just asking about if you were to build a nice ebike setup, what would you do?
This video showed up on recommended and I watched it, enjoyed it, freaked out when I saw you on granite run drive, then watched you ride past my house LOL!
Craig bike would be faster you have to go into sw900 parameters and adjust top speed , you can change many things there the kph to mph, Look up sw900 settings on RU-vid
I'm pretty sure their more for looks than actually providing some sorta protection, I mean I've seen them do nothing for people way more than I've seen them actually save a life
Craig, you should put some gears on the back wheel with the rear derailleur it will save your back wheel in the long run most of those rear end motorized come with a set of gears on them so you can still change like the bicycle and still have the back wheel
For their next challenge, Sean and Craig have a hunting challenge. Sean will be using the newest shotgun from Browning and to even things up, Craig gets 3 time tested weapons; a rock, a string, and a stick.
Love all your Videos. I never even thought about having an electric bike before watching your Zero Video. I bought a Zero SR/S Premium and love it. I'm always looking for a reason to ride it. I ride it to and from work every day now. Fast! Fast! Fast! It Boogies.
What was unfair was one guy's bike came in box, while the other guy's was just parts he had to put on a bike. It would have been more fair for both to have either full bikes or just kits.
It wasn’t that it was the rotation of the wheel. It was just going to spin the wrong way if he had the polarity set normally. Reversing the polarity made it so the power was reversed and so the rotation was too. The gears were just going to be on the wrong side if he had the polarity normal
Overall performance was pretty similar between the two. Try the most expensive pre-built vs the most expensive DIY/individual components. A 72v DIY e-bike will smoke anything off the shelf.
For a person who is seriously overweight an electric bike can be their best option to start exercising. Rider still gets about 60% of the exercise of a regular bike. You can buy a Radrover for the same $. They are located in Seattle, have thousands of bike sales and honor their warranty. Also, Craigs motor is only On/off. No gearing whatsoever. The other is a Geared Hub. Way more torque.
I would argue the opposite actually if they reprogrammed Craigs controller. I have the same brand and looks the same size motor. I pop wheelies electric only. I don't know how much torque you want more than that.
@@Blox117 The geared hub has more torque. I own bikes with each of these motors. I live in Colorado springs at 7000'. The geared hub blows away the old "magic pan" style motor on hills. Gears beat no gears every time. Of course the mid drive motor kills anything that is at the rear wheel. Why? Because you now have the gearing of the complete drive train. That is why every expensive (5-10K) electric mountain bike has a mid drive motor. Glad you like your bike but don't mislead people.
It's actually the other way around. If you don't plug the charger into the wall and turn it on first you get a spark more often than not because of the huge voltage gap.
Just a little bit of "trivia" here: The latest Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 that was passed, which included tax rebates for electric vehicles, did not include the E-BIKE Act. 😞 Which would have given people a 30% tax rebate on an e-bike purchase. That means you would actually be given $600 for a $2000 e-bike purchase. It was a missed opportunity to significantly advance the "Green agenda" by tapping into the poor and lower class demographic in trading in their cars for an e-bike. Not to mention it would have strengthened our aluminum industry, which is now firing tons of people due to recession...
I love you guys. You all sriously bring such a smile and positive boost to my day EVERY morning you post a video for us all. Thanks. P.S. Craig was killin it in the Chick Fillet drive thru line with those curves he was rockin in that sexy dress! LOL
Hey, I bought an Amazon E bike two weeks ago, had EXACTLY the same issue with the battery charging indicator, doesn't work. They gave me a $70 credit to use on Amazon store purchases. The battery actually works, just that stupid indicator light is broken. must be the same company making these.
@@BikesandBeards I got a 500 watt motor on my bike and was comparing my phones GPS speedometer app to the LCD controller which purposely max's out at 21.6mph. The bike actually steadied out at 28mph on level path.(I weigh 285lbs). Apparently you can get into the programming of these things and change that speed setting and other power settings. look forward to your next vid. 👍
@@spudthegreaterusa8386 you just gotta set it up in the settings menu, remove max speed limit, set the the right amps for your conntroller and battery voltage to get max power. My diy kit is 1500w, but out of the box pulled only 500w, after setting it up does 1800w peak and 1700w sustained power.
