I had an older version of the same model, 15+ years ago and even then I couldn't fault it at all for a beginner pedal set, lasted years, I actually lost them before they broke or anything 😂
I have a similar double pedal. It's sold in Brazil and surprisingly, I have been using it for nearly 10 years. And you're a year older than me. You were born on April 20th, 1986.
@@samurejo3291 I know he has a biopage on EM but I remembered his birthdate from a "research" I made online a while ago, I was looking for live videos of him with Belphegor and suddenly his personal info came up.
@@PeX218 hahaha no BR a Adah e a Turbo fazem esse modelo hahaha o meu era da Turbo. Eu peguei recentemente um KA Drums Direct Drive modelo DL Speed, direct drive é outra fita ne hahahaha
It's true that skill is more important than gear, but what I did notice once I earned enough to afford more high-end gear is that it will make your drumming experience more comfortable, thus also improving your performance. A sturdy high-end seat will give you better balance than a wobbly cheap one and the more adjustment points your pedal has, the more you can explore to find a comfortable setting for you.
what i noticed after a long practice routene up to 270bpm atm: high end gear gives you the opportunity to keep practicing at a constantly equal setting without anything falling off or need to readjust. after reaching the required speed or technique i realized, it really doesn't depend a lot on the gear but simply on your settings, technique and/or saved muscle memory motions. spring tension and beater weight usually set the limit of your maximum speed. like said, after getting comfortable with 250bpm+ doublebass with my beloved czarcie kopyto, i tuned up my brother's 20 year old pearl eliminator or whatever that squeeky thing was called back then, i put in an axis spring and maxed the tension, then i used a light sonor beater to speed up the swing by it self and voilá: even on this crazy old thing i can go 290-300bpm 8th notes single foot, left or right doesn't even matter.
oil the chain every once in a while and replace the ball bearing with some smooth skate bearings for cheap. I consider that a must. Replacing the drive shaft for a fancy one is not cheap but some say is worth it.
1986. These pedals seem like a great starting point. My first double pedal was (and still is) a Pearl Powershifter Eliminator. They are SO OLD! Upgraded the linkage to a Trick one, also from Thomann. This was a great upgrade.
at 7:41, you should have taken out the spring assembly on the slave pedal for playing double pedals. This pedal comes with an extra spring assembly. If you don't do this the pedal will feel extremely heavy on the slave side. There should only be 2 spring assemblies on the main pedal (on the right, for the main pedal, and on the left for the slave pedal)
@@hazardeur He is using 2 springs essentially for the left pedal. Look at 2:13. There are a total of 3 springs. He should have removed the spring on the slave pedal I have a similar pedal, if you dont remove the spring on the slave pedal, it will be extra heavy as your slave pedal has to fight the force of 2 springs(one on the slave pedal, one on the master pedal)
Excellent video and pedal review! Your year is 1979. I currently play my DW5000 Accelerator double-kick pedals which I modified with the following upgrades: 1. I replaced my stock DW drive shaft with the Ludwig Atlas Pro aluminum drive shaft. It's a Beast! It has sealed bearings at the joints which are huge. This drive shaft is as good and consistent as the Trick shaft, so there's no latency between my slave and master pedals. 2. I replaced the stock DW single-chain cams with a pair of Pearl Demon direct-drive cams. Now my double-kick pedals feel different from the chain drives, but I like it. 3. I replaced the stock DW tension springs with THICKER tension springs from my local hardware store. This way I can adjust the spring tension for a lighter feel and faster response while still bringing my beaters back to their starting position. 4. I removed the heel plates, since I only play with my toes. 5. I often play my kicks wearing work boots (for more power beating). Even with work boots I can still pivot my ankles, as long as I break the boot leather in. Other times I wear Converse Chucks high tops, or Vans shoes. I rarely play with sandals or barefoot, but my shins get bruised by the DW black plastic beaters, LOL. By the way, I only play the plastic side of my DW beaters. I also have a pair of Trick Dominator aluminum beaters. My kick-drum batter head is a Remo Emperor with a Danmar metal kick pad gorillaglued to it. Now... these Millenium pedals look interesting; and they look sturdy and well-made for their price. I see them all the time in Facebook Marketplace, and I'm tempted to buy a set of Millennium double-kick pedals for practice at home and as backup pedals during shows... if I buy these Millenium double-kick pedals I plan to modify them with the same hardware upgrade that I've done for my DW5000 Accelerator double-kick pedals.
man I am blown away! 15 years as a young drummer I would have killed to have a double chain, full base plate double pedal at that low price for me first double pedal.
Hmmm no, you definitely don't want to cheap out on hardware. Main reason is durability. I cheaped out once, i bought a low end Mapex double pedal. It didn't last very long. Stripped threads and screws, play in the linkages. Now it's just a nice paperweight... can't even sell it to get some of the money back because it's unusable.
@@Fucklesticks it's not about that. I say that if you know how, you can play on any pedals. It is clear that between Maхton or Axis everyone will choose Axis))..
This was my first double base pedal as well! Sounds like a lot of people bought this one, I eventually replaced it as my daily driver after 3 years. Mine fell apart numerous times during those 3 years though lol. The bearings are shockingly bad but easy to replace. The hinge pin at the heel of the footboard is loose so the footboard can slide sided to side - this makes a lot of unwanted noise. The driveshaft is also loose fitting with loads of backlash and friction in the U-Joints (seriously just replace this with a better one staight away). It rattles and squeeks everywhere lol. All of these things can be fixed with upgrades / tinkering though, and it's still an amazing pedal for the price. I still use mine for practice occasionally and it still works (most of the time) - 6 years after I bought it!
April 20th 1986. I’ve been playing drums for a bit now it’s consumed my life I love watching you videos especially on double bass I’m working on my double bass ability it’s just hard with a crapy double bass pedal. Keep up the work 👍🏿
Hi Martin, recently I use the same pedals and I 'm happy with them. Glad you showed the community it is all about technique and not the pedals. I am following your bass drum mastery and when I 'm able to play 160BPM easily I will upgrade my pedals, because I want to earn them. You're born in 1986 BTW. ;-)
20.4.1986 Btw, Millenium has great stuff for a great price. Got their Power brass snare 14x5.5 and use it as my main snare for gigs. Couldn't believe that it sounds so good for 140€. Keep up the great work and Thank You for inspiring drummers. Greetings from Croatia
1. Cool video, both fun and serious as always! 2. It's great to see how good today's "cheap" gear is, compared to the scrap you got for the same money when I started drumming. 3. Strange that the slave pedal of my IC makes the same noises although I've re-adjusted it several times. 4. You were born in 1986!
I had to pause this while watching the unboxing section because I was laughing so hard that I was afraid I was gonna throw up my breakfast. "Great, another box." XD
U have both springs attached on the slave side. Convert to 1 spring for best feel and noise reduction. I've had these for a while and I can't believe how good they are for the price.
The noise you hear at the end from the "slave" pedal is de clamp with which an extra bass drum can be attached. You only have to open the clamp more so that the pedal doesn't hit the metal clamp.
The extra noise on the second pedal comes from the footplate hitting the bottom of the pedal , easy fix a little block of tough foam glued or taped under the pedal , it worked for me .
Damn Millenium went far, my first double pedal was a millenium one, same price but terrible, it destroyed itself in a couple of years after giving me many many problems.
Thank you very much for reviewing Millenium!!! I think I'll give them a try since I've been using a single version of Millenium pedal anyway. The look and the handling remind me of Iron Cobra a bit.
I bought this pedal last year. It broke within a month, on the anckle/foot joint. I think they are sht, but they can be fixed the "hard way". With hammers and hate. Conclusion, 5/10, but good enouht to develop some techniques, develop muscles and change bad habits before buying a more expensive one.
Marthyn Javanovic = Alien ! Who else can double bass drum 20 minutes non-stop that freaking fast?! (one a practice pad no less.) One heck of test for drum pedals! Loved the video man, you're awesome. (maybe a little crazy, but hey sanity can sometimes be overrated in the music world :) Take care from a new subscriber...
Callin’ it. Marthys was born in 1984. Yes? Please? Hehe. I don’t really need this pedal if I guessed correctly, however. It was my very first double pedal I bought. It worked great, but the extra sound from your demonstration is very familiar! I found that since the pedal parts are predominantly made from a specific material that is not very durable, the parts end up being very malleable with rigorous pedal work. It’s like the parts “strip” very easily. I don’t know if this is why the pedals were making sounds from your demonstration, but with my experience it definitely was part of the issues using these pedals while playing extreme parts that I don’t think the pedal was designed for.
Can be converted into two single-pedals. My Tama IC´s cant do that... So what you are saying...the only difference between these and the more expensive ones....is a squeking-noise from the slave pedal? Why do you (we) buy more expansive pedals? 🤔 (Should have used the spikes on the practice pad 🫣)
I use this, here in Brazil the price is too much so i have to buy this to have a double bass, this version you can position the beaters to be in the same position but in the version I use it doesn't even exist, I play with a beater different from the other
i just got some pedals like these but they didn't last 24 hours because of the chain placement that locks the the Beter so i had to place the chain back into the grooves properly and the chain together even though there dope with the speeds, i usually take the springs off the the long screws that grip to the carpet and when i took them off they stop sliding the bass drum, so the grip of screws are longer and enough to grip with the Hight when latched to the bass drum.
ey Marthyn! i really learn a lot from your videos, thank you so much! i use the Millenium phantom 3000, direct drive twin pedals. 6 months ago i could not do 150bpm 16th single strokes, now i do 180 to 200 double strokes with the ankle technique!
Loved the video. This clearly shows that you don’t have to pour money onto pedals to play fast. But you do have to pour practise hours into playing. Especially for the feet and legs, I find that to be a long journey and needing a lot of time of dedicated practise. My legs were used to running, cycling, jumping: slow, infrequent, big motions. Drumming requires more small, frequent, delicate, dynamic motions from the legs and hip. This takes a lot of time to adjust - then, use whichever pedal, technique you want! And i’m not going to guess your age, but I wish you and your drumming a long and great life!
But you definitely want to put the money into a more durable pedal set. I know these, they're mass produced in China and then bulk sold to other companies that rebrand them. Biggest complaint i've seen is play in the linkages and stripped threads. Not good.
Your great guy it seems I love your channel I like how calm you are. I enjoyed your metal playing I seen ya live playing lots. Great drummer. I might need double bass technique lessons. I'll check it out.
I bought an 80 dollar double pedal. It lasted about a year. It was good while it lasted. Iwent to Axis long boards. Nice pedal but didn't like the direct drive for my playing style. Went to FP-9s and love them. 1986.
Really nice Review! I just bought a used Pearl P-2002C, which seems as almost new, for 230,00€ + shipping and handling. I think you look like someone who was born 1986. ;-)
We share the same opinion about the millenium pedal. I had those ones as well and I had to record a few intense 200+ bpm deathmetal tracks with it and you could hear the small noises that pedal made but over all it is a decent pedal for the price :D
sometimes i feel like the drive shaft could have interference with how the Beter moves because the slave pedal isn't as direct as the main pedal. unless you turn the slave pedal into a single pedal and it wont probably make the squeaking noise, unless you got direct drive, maybe they need oiled on the chain in in between the Barings.
Is it fair to say that yeah a cheaper pedal will allow you to play just fine but when you spend extra, durability is what you're paying for? Honest question as I've been shopping around for pedals.
1986. i subscribed. and liked. and commented. after reading this on your website "In 2009, after only 4 years of consistent drum kit practice...", I figured this was pretty much the beginning of your career. So, I subtracted four years putting us at 2005. This time was a turning point in your life because you were starting something new. I'm guessing you've just become an adult and/or graduated high school. If you were 18 when you graduated high school, that puts us at 1987. So you must have worked a year and then decided to start practicing consistently.
Ive got a cheap pdp pedal and it works. I wish these pedals were much lighter and if they could innovate more and have a clip style in the back of the pedal that when pressed, opens up the claw that attaches to the bass drum. It's really annoying getting in there trying to set it to the bass drum and tighten everything down.
I have a very strange question. Could one invert the slave pedal on this one, so it is actually facing the other way around and could be used as a single pedal for a cajon, when there is a need for slightly different playing?
The last band I was in used 2 rehearse in the basement of a tattoo studio & the owner's son was a drummer so we hooked him up with this pedal as a gift 1986 🤘🤘🤘
I know I'm late to this party but I know you were born in 1986 because I purchased bass drum mastery and you mentioned your age and I remember you're three years younger than me so 1986 is the final and correct answer
I have to admit i first found your channel when you did a reaction video to Lyle Cooper, which is cool because he is a great drummer and i got to hangout with him for hours b4 he did a concert with Vader and White Chapel. Such a cool guy! Anyways i am going to guess to guess you were born in 1986
It's basically the same which I started with! I'd like to see a quick explanation about how you set it up, maybe in a future video! I can't answer the quiz, since I'd say 2000 :D
1986! Id like to win this pedal for my sister who recently took up drumming but still only has a single pedal to practice with. Ill buy her your video course to accompany it with. Keep up the great work and great content Marthyn \m/
I have had the same pedals since 7 years ago and I have learned too much about double bass drumming... Could you give me some advices to find the best settings and by this way improve the tecnique?
Would hate to compare these pedals to another pair of cheap pedals but I believe my first pair were GP single chain, and the chain snapped within the year. Id like to think im just heavy footed. 1986 is the year!
Interesting video, i like it! Man, your skills of doing stuff like this is incredible! I want to have (and have knowledge of how to play) double-bass pedal. Im not sure but maybe you born at 1984/1986, its hard, but i think it 1986. Good luck man!
That guy was looking at it all wrong. Its not skill, its time. How much time do you want to spend working around a cheap pedals problems to get what you want. With better "gear".... it doesn't play itself.
I think your born at 1984 lotta love for you man i love your new style of videos keep it up dude im in desperate need of a double pedal but i can afford one kuz my mom said no i wish i can win it i hope im right 😂😂😂
