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I Bought the Wrong Solar Panel, I Thought I Knew What I Was Doing 😂 

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@thechanneldaily
@thechanneldaily 5 месяцев назад
Glad to see you are putting out videos again 😀
@G5Philippines
@G5Philippines 5 месяцев назад
Thanks so much @thechanneldaily ...your support means a lot to me. I'm trying to get on a one-per-week routine/schedule. 😄
@pgs6922
@pgs6922 3 месяца назад
Really happy to see you doing videos! We are building a house in San Carlos, hopefully done before end of year. We return in September. So we pretty much love any SC videos, but especially yours :) Regarding the EB3A, we have the exact same model in the US, and even though it's pretty small it was still very valuable getting through Hurricane Ian in Florida. Too bad your solar panel didn'f meet the specs, because that seems like a pretty good price you got for that wattage output. Hopefully you can find something else to use it for.
@G5Philippines
@G5Philippines 3 месяца назад
Hello @pgs6922 ... Thank you so much for watching and for the awesome feedback! Congrats on building your house! We want to build our own place, but just don't have the budget. SOMEDAY! 😊🙏🏻Regarding the solar panel and EB3A, I am in the process of making a follow up video, but the solar panel was and is perfectly compatible, I just didn't have it properly positioned so it was capturing enough sun. Since then I installed it on the roof. But I'll share all that stuff in the video. And yeah, the EB3A, for its size is a little beast. I have been so happy with it! Please let us know when you get back to SCC, would love to meet up!
@colinvanful
@colinvanful 5 месяцев назад
have you tryed to cover a part of the pannel and see if still works . maybee covering a part of the pannel would reduce the ampage output from the pannel
@G5Philippines
@G5Philippines 5 месяцев назад
That's something I haven't tried. Although, as I showed in the video, the panel was in full shade when we tried it yesterday afternoon. But, I'm willing to try that! 😄
@thebeachoflife
@thebeachoflife 5 месяцев назад
Can you drop a link to the store you bought the Bluetti from?
@G5Philippines
@G5Philippines 5 месяцев назад
Hello @thebeachoflife ... I believe this is the current EB3A listing on the Lazada/Bluetti official store. Check it out. Lazada/Bluetti Store - www.lazada.com.ph/products/bluetti-portable-power-station-eb3a-268wh-lifepo4-battery-backup-600w-1200w-surge-ac-outlets-recharge-from-0-80-in-30-min-solar-generator-for-outdoor-camping-i4355888205-s24429383452.html?
@SolarMinerPH
@SolarMinerPH 5 месяцев назад
You got scammed with that panel because by the looks of it it is too small to be a 200w panel, probably just 50 to 70watts. And the most common mistake by beginners when using a solar panel is thingking you got enough sunlight. That panel is not under direct sunlight. you really need it to be under the sun, I mean really under the sun. another thing is you can use a solar panel with a higher current than what is suggested on the powerstation as long as you do not go over the max voltage. the powerstation will only use as much current as it needs, so even if your panel can generate 20amps the powerstation will only take 8amps. so that is not the issue. on solar panels you can detect a higher voltage even under the shade when there is no load but once you put a load(eg: plug it to the powerstation) that voltage will go down if it cannot produce enough power.
@G5Philippines
@G5Philippines 5 месяцев назад
Hello @SolarMinerPH - thank you for your insightful comments, I'll just pick myself back up after the beatdown you just gave me and address your points directly.🤣😂😅 Panel Size: You mentioned that "You got scammed with that panel because by the looks of it it is too small to be a 200w panel, probably just 50 to 70watts." So, having no idea what the size of a 200W panel is supposed to be, I hit Google. Across three different sources, I found that typical 200W solar panels are usually around 65 inches by 26.4 inches (165cm x 67cm)​​​ (The Green Watt)​​ (SolarPanelHub)​​ (SolarPanelHub)​. My solar panel is 132cm x 67cm, which is slightly shorter but within a reasonable range for a 200W panel. But I feel your claim that it’s only 50-70W is questionable without testing the actual output. As you would have seen in the video, I bought a multimieter, but it doesn't seem to offer wattage. But even with all of that said, the Bluetti EB3A will work on a lower watt solar panel, it just has a maximum of 200 watts, which is why I went with a 200 watt solar panel. Here are the specs of my panel for clarity: Solar Panel: Max Power Output (W): 200W Dimensions: 132cm x 67cm x 3cm Weight: 12KG Voltage MPP (Vmp): 19.69V Current MPP (Imp): 10.21A Voltage Open Circuit (Voc): 24.08V Short Circuit Current (Isc): 10.72A Bluetti EB3A: Solar Input: 200W Max, VOC 12-28VDC/ 8.5A Sunlight: You mentioned that "the most common mistake by beginners when using a solar panel is thingking you got enough sunlight. That panel is not under direct sunlight. you really need it to be under the sun, I mean really under the sun.", which of course I know. As you would have heard me say in the video, the morning hours the panel is getting full direct sunlight coverage, but I just have it propped up there while I am getting the setup worked out. And I'll have a roof guy come over and mount it on the roof once I get it working properly. I do not believe the temporary placement to be the sole issue here. Current Handling: According to the Bluetti EB3A manual and support, as well as the facebook EB3A user group, the EB3A has strict thresholds and absolutely rejects inputs above 8.5A for safety. It’s designed to handle up to 200W, but if the current exceeds 8.5A, the mppt supposedly triggers safety features. While in theory, the unit should regulate excess current, that seems to be the main issue. 🙏🏻I genuinely welcome and appreciate your insights, and for all I know, you're absolutely right on all points. I'm just learning as I go, but I also pride myself on my research, and according to reviews of this particular solar panel, I feel like it's legitimate. However, I acknowledge that there’s a possibility I might have been scammed. It would be helpful to get some advice on how to verify the wattage and amperage, just to alleviate those questions and concerns. Thanks again! 👍🏻
@SolarMinerPH
@SolarMinerPH 5 месяцев назад
@@G5Philippines 😁 I'm just guessing on the size, there are a lot of fake sellers online stating they are selling 500W panels when in fact its just 50watts. Another indicator if its fake is the price. A 100w panel is usually around 2000 pesos. Anyone selling significantly cheaper than that with a higher wattage is most likely fake. If you bought yours from a trusted seller, then I wouldn't worry about it. You did mention that it was sunny out there early in the morning but I still brought it up because a lot of my viewers made that mistake when testing their panels. they thought that just bringing it outside is enough and the fact that you showed an error about the PV low voltage which only appears when there is not enough sunlight. About the current, they are mistaken if they said 'EB3A has strict thresholds and absolutely rejects inputs above 8.5A" Current is not pushed it is pulled which means the EB3A doesn't exactly know if your panel has more than 8.5A or more. Well technically it knows because it will try to pull as much current as it can to generate the 200W limit but it will stop pulling more current once it reaches that 200W limit. Just like how your 65W phone charger only pulls 65watts on your 220V AC outlet which can deliver thousands of watts. You can actually install more than 200W of panel on the EB3A which means more current than 8.5A and it will only pull 200Watts. I've connected 400watts on mine and it only pulls 200watts. Don't want to sound rude but Facebook is full of people saying things they are not sure of. You could visit community dot bluettipower dot com as there are way more knowledgeable people there than facebook, especially the bluetti ph facebook group where it is filled with members that will say anything just to be able to push their affiliate links. The 2 things about the solar panel and the sun are usually the issue when it comes to problems regarding solar. If you are sure those things are not the issue then I just hope your EB3A is not the issue. Because if the sun is good and the solar panel is good and I can tell you that the current is not the issue then the only thing left is your EB3A. Good luck in troubleshooting. I hope I did not sound mean or rude to you, I'm just giving some pointers on where to look first. If you have any questions you can ask anytime just find me on facebook 😁
@SolarMinerPH
@SolarMinerPH 5 месяцев назад
@@G5Philippines It looks like my new reply disappeared. Well I'm back just to say that a few weeks ago someone said that their EB3A was not charging and after updating the firmware it started charging. Just sharing it in case that fixes your problem.
@G5Philippines
@G5Philippines 3 месяца назад
Hey there @@SolarMinerPH Wow! I am just seeing your follow up comments. First of all, you were not rude or mean, but at that moment, I was in the midst of the aggravation I was experiencing, so I think my response may have reflected that. But since then, and I am actually in the middle of doing a segmented video that updates on my research and experimentation. But, through various different experiments, I have determined that the solar panel is fine and working properly. I also had my nephew install the panel on the roof so it can capture sun optimally. To confirm, you are 100% correct on your points about the EB3A, the way it 'pulls' as opposed to it having limiting thresholds, everything you said has turned out to be exactly correct. I have had moments of serious confusion seeing only 50 watts or 90 watts in the Bluetti app, never anywhere near the 200 watts that I expected, so that I still do not fully understand. But the way I discovered that the panel is producing 200 watts was multiplying the 22.4V(multimeter)×8A(solar controller display) =179.2W and was able to see that it was producing upwards of 180 to 190 watts. When I said I am learning in baby steps, I really meant it. I'm enjoying the process. As I mentioned, I am making a video, but also since then, I have lined up the solar panel with a controller, connected to an external battery, then to the EB3A, and that system is working, although not well enough to replace the grid on my computer workstation. My next goal is to build a big enough system to power my workspace, including my A/C and workstation... probably about 1500 watts total. My goal with all of this is to see how cheaply I can get by, while getting the results I want. Thanks for your follow up comments! Even if I am only just now seeing them. 😄
@G5Philippines
@G5Philippines 3 месяца назад
@@SolarMinerPH P.S., I just clicked on your channel, and WOW! I had no idea. I subscribed and will tune in! 😀
@MarkSmith-jt1yj
@MarkSmith-jt1yj 5 месяцев назад
Hope you get sorted im moving later this year and told my partner need somthing like this for brown outs
@G5Philippines
@G5Philippines 5 месяцев назад
Thanks @MarkSmith-jt1yj ... ME TOO! But in the meantime, I'm learning a lot in the process. 🌞🔋💡 Having a reliable power backup for brownouts is a primary and ongoing matter! 😄I wish you all the well with your move and setting up your own system. Keep me informed of your progress. Peace and blessings!
@mikeheyjoebuenavistadreamin272
@mikeheyjoebuenavistadreamin272 5 месяцев назад
i think my comment got deleted...
@G5Philippines
@G5Philippines 5 месяцев назад
Hi @mikeheyjoebuenavistadreamin272 ... I didn't delete you friend... what did you say? 🙂
@mikeheyjoebuenavistadreamin272
@mikeheyjoebuenavistadreamin272 5 месяцев назад
depending on the setup 1 panel may not be enough ..i am not a expert solar guy but here in the states the panels have microinverters DC toAC (ac has less voltage drop over a distance..in the philippines i believe the panels do not have microinverters .. i am not familiar with operating a bluetti but maybe there is a dip switch or a setting to enable solar or wind power input .. i would think that it would accept DC or AC as a input but again idk about bluetti..i would contact their tech support ...@@G5Philippines it could be as simple as there is not enough voltage (versus current =amps) to have the unit activate actually charging the batteries due to DC voltage drop from panels . i would see what minimum PV input voltage is and maybe see if you can get a local solar guy to do a "safety inspection" for a few bucks ..sure he will hit you up to add a whole new system but he may help out .. that was the gist of it lol if you are really bored there are a few documentaries regarding thomas edison vs westinghouse which explain why we now use AC vs DC in house wiring .. yeah ..im a dork
@mikeheyjoebuenavistadreamin272
@mikeheyjoebuenavistadreamin272 5 месяцев назад
i replied and it got deleted again ..maybe in moderation??@@G5Philippines
@mikeheyjoebuenavistadreamin272
@mikeheyjoebuenavistadreamin272 5 месяцев назад
i will send you a long winded email instead of a long winded reply lol .
@G5Philippines
@G5Philippines 5 месяцев назад
@@mikeheyjoebuenavistadreamin272 I'm seeing your comments now. I'll respond to the first one.
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