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I Built a Vehicle That Proves ELECTRIC is WAY Better Than GAS... 

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In this episode I built a vehicle that uses pure electric power to generate insane acceleration. Gas engines are great and everything but electric power is clearly superior.
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@herpaderp4965
@herpaderp4965 20 дней назад
but you were comparing 2x tier 1 gas engines to 6x tier 2 electric motors....
@FuriousFlyer57
@FuriousFlyer57 20 дней назад
thats what i was thinkin
@DickShooter
@DickShooter 20 дней назад
Just wait until he keeps getting smoked by gas engines and can't figure it out. He's not looking at the power curves of the motors AT ALL
@cuberznl
@cuberznl 20 дней назад
8 electric*
@codeyisafk9487
@codeyisafk9487 20 дней назад
Wonder if he’ll see this comment. I bet that reaction will be funny
@Tom89194
@Tom89194 20 дней назад
Yeah, I keep using combos because the available gear ratios are too close. Having one electric gives the car serious grunt on the low end until the gas engines are spooled up.
@CreativeSanbox-KH
@CreativeSanbox-KH 20 дней назад
You should play the part introduction as it gives you free parts
@gokselaras9002
@gokselaras9002 20 дней назад
I was about to comment
@snowe..
@snowe.. 20 дней назад
seeing him skip the tutorials is maddening, especially because 20 seconds later he says "this makes no sense" and it was explained perfectly in the tutorial.
@anteshell
@anteshell 20 дней назад
To be honest, the parts are so cheap that I think watching them is more hassle than the part is worth in currency, compared to just doing one race and earning enough to buy any part multiple times over.
@Alfred-Neuman
@Alfred-Neuman 19 дней назад
Can you also tell him to change the graphics settings to Medium? The image quality just stays the same but it removes all these annoying flashes on metal parts.
@CreativeSanbox-KH
@CreativeSanbox-KH 19 дней назад
@@anteshell It is better to do it in the tech tree career as you can get more expensive parts earlier and therefore using more money than you should/would
@lucianogvg
@lucianogvg 20 дней назад
We want more screwdrivers videos!!
@Carson-e5w
@Carson-e5w 20 дней назад
Same
@xymaryai8283
@xymaryai8283 20 дней назад
longer too, only really did the EV build
@bouwser02
@bouwser02 20 дней назад
For a vehicle with no transmission you are correct that the power curve of the electric motors is ideal, but once you add gear shifting you want your peak power to be at the top of the RPMs for each gear, which is what the gas engines do better.
@wolvenedge6214
@wolvenedge6214 19 дней назад
Was going to say... And using a small electric motor or two to act as starter motors would make the need for low gearing a lot less, allowing for more efficient transmission setups.
@galoezarcommand2281
@galoezarcommand2281 19 дней назад
In the game the electric motors only have more torque than gas engines in the low rpm’s(with Kan’s gear ratio in this video, near 30 kph is where the torque curve of the tier 1 engine has superior torque compared to an tier 2 electric) From how Kan raced in this video he never really used the low rpm higher torque (which can be seen in the bottom right corner during the races in this video where the white line remained in the right most 2/3 of the torque curve(the range of the curve where gas engines have higher torque compared to electric on a 1 yo 1 ratio)) Meaning that Kan doesn’t need the better low rpm torque of the electric as the rpm never drops that low and even in a single gear ratio setup like in this video the torque curve of the engines would have provided around 10-20%increase(something like that) in torque(acceleration = more time at higher speeds not to mention the max rpm stretching further) Also from other YT research that I have done on the game it also seems as though a bunch of stacked tier 2 gas engines might even yield better performance than the use of tier 4 gas engines in terms of size and maybe even power(however I haven’t actually tried comparing any of those things myself and I think it really just might be the smaller engines more convenient size as compared to the larger tier 4 ones) I myself also found myself doing the campaign with only electric engines, however this is because I knew that they were technically not as good as the gas engines in the game and would provide more of a challenge and I wanted more challenge I also believe that Kan built an awesome electric build in this video which in many ways was OP in comparison to the handling of my electric builds(though I also believe that I severely lack in skill in the driving department at least after watching how Kan just crushes the skill portions and just about never fails a turn :)
@icegaming7544
@icegaming7544 20 дней назад
After beating the last monarch a chest containing the best electric engine becomes available. You can also get the large versions of the wheels in chests.
@57thorns
@57thorns 20 дней назад
15:24 that acceleration race is where you want you car to have a higher top speed. But all electric can probably do it without gear shifting.
@lavarsch
@lavarsch 19 дней назад
But you need to reach this high speed, so acceleration is important. You can have a car that has 1000mp/h and takes a year to reach it :P
@AtrakKarta
@AtrakKarta 20 дней назад
9:25 👀 That adjustable wheel-base, though.
@TNH91
@TNH91 20 дней назад
1:24 read the small text on it as well XD
@WENGACZLP
@WENGACZLP 20 дней назад
best way is hybrid, I did two of the best gas engines through gearbox and two electric engines connected directly to wheels for low speed acceleration
@funkymunky7935
@funkymunky7935 20 дней назад
The electric engines will majorly limit your top speed doing it that way
@thetruetri5106
@thetruetri5106 20 дней назад
​@@funkymunky7935I thought the electric engines just turn off and don't affect anymore once they reached their maximum
@sopadebronha
@sopadebronha 20 дней назад
​@@thetruetri5106 they will turn off and become dead weights on your vehicle. Electrics are not good option for top tier performance because they are too fuckin heavy and give less power than smaller combustion engines.
@thetruetri5106
@thetruetri5106 20 дней назад
@@sopadebronha ah yes the weight. That makes sense
@sopadebronha
@sopadebronha 20 дней назад
@@thetruetri5106 People seem to underestimate the importance of weight and size when design the cars. Heavier vehicles will need more power to accelerate, will take longer distances to break and will lose grip more often on tight corners. If your center mass is too tall your are more likely to roll and if its not centered longitudinally, your car will have uneven cornering. If you make your car too tall or too wide you will increase air drag which massively reduces acceleration and top speed.
@xenix7058
@xenix7058 20 дней назад
something very important a short wheelbase will make you steer really fast
@s1n1stersixsgaming8
@s1n1stersixsgaming8 20 дней назад
4 wheel steering will as well, but can be twitchy and extremely unstable at times.
@xenix7058
@xenix7058 20 дней назад
@@s1n1stersixsgaming8 don't do 4 wheel steering on racing builds
@SatanSoldier
@SatanSoldier 20 дней назад
Chasing records can be kinda fun when they haven't been flooded by insanity yet. I've been doing Windmill Castle. Currently #1 in D and B classes and #14 overall. Its a wacky and frustrating course that really benefits from a specially designed vehicle.
@pularis1629
@pularis1629 20 дней назад
Every time you beat a monarch, GO EXPLORING. You get some crazy good stuff later on
@listerfeend2004
@listerfeend2004 20 дней назад
kAN, I'd love to see how you create transmission. I'm having so many problems with figuring out the building of such a thing, and I've always looked to you for guidance when I get into those situations
@inconnu_connue
@inconnu_connue 20 дней назад
7:47 Personally I really like how it is don't want that to change, else it's a things in the settings that you can change
@jiegao3591
@jiegao3591 20 дней назад
the gears are so magical that you can put all your engines on a stick in front of your car, knock them off, and then keep driving without engines
@Fogolol
@Fogolol 19 дней назад
what? That's a thing? Newton left the chat
@demonicsquid7217
@demonicsquid7217 10 дней назад
Devs have been watching too many of those perpetual motion/free energy videos on YT. They probably stick a cocktail stick in their phone charge port to stop ads as well... 🤔😀
@tavern.keeper
@tavern.keeper 20 дней назад
You can use two gear shifters to make a 4-speed transmission
@lees4416
@lees4416 20 дней назад
No, it will be 3-speed
@TNH91
@TNH91 20 дней назад
@@lees4416 You obviously don't understand combinatorics.
@LegoGoblin
@LegoGoblin 20 дней назад
@@lees4416 you clearly don't own an air fryer
@steeljawX
@steeljawX 20 дней назад
@@lees4416 You're miscalculating in that there's actually 4 combinations. Let's just say 1 means the shifters "in" and 2 is it being "out". The combos are 1:1, 1:2, 2:1, and 2:2. Even though by default one of those is always engaged, it's technically a 4-speed as that would be considered gear 1.
@steeljawX
@steeljawX 20 дней назад
Sure, but it'd take up an unholy amount of room. It's difficult to get a system like that to work without causing gear interference. So either you have that axis-9 to make room for every gear to have adequate space and redundancy to work for every other gear, or you can at best get only a 3-speed on a compact scale. You're not wrong, it's just that for the purposes of this game, it's difficult to do without blowing up the size or over complicating the system.
@roccov3614
@roccov3614 20 дней назад
A shifter will allow you to accelerate faster (you are a bit slow) and reach higher speeds. It's worth it. Trust me. Even if you just have 2 gears you wont go back.
@collinkaufman2316
@collinkaufman2316 20 дней назад
Where kAN is in the game gearbox is a must have
@MrLarsgren
@MrLarsgren 20 дней назад
you can use more than 1 gear shifter to get more gears. also yeah stepper motor works like a scrap controller where you can set a desired angle. recommend doing part intro after you win the new stuff. this way you get one for free.
@lees4416
@lees4416 20 дней назад
To beat the campaign you just need small short vehicle with some down force, awd/rwd, 80-ish hp, 2-3 gears and primarily gas engines
@TegukiSix
@TegukiSix 18 дней назад
I wonder if you could use winglets on hinges to gain extra distance on jumps -- downforce when you're accelerating, then flip them to provide lift while you're in the air. Perhaps even gliders are possible...
@Jesse-zk9ge
@Jesse-zk9ge 20 дней назад
KAN I think you Scatman and Cosmo has got to do a race against each other in screwdrivers.🙏🤟
@deltacx1059
@deltacx1059 20 дней назад
You would hate real power curves, most times they are not so flat
@blueflame_sm
@blueflame_sm 20 дней назад
The car classes in Screw Drivers are kinda vague. If I recall correctly there is a visual graph showing how vehicles will be defined given their horse power, weight and downforce, but I can't remember how to get to it... Playing the secondary campaign mode is a great way to familiarize yourself with these classes, as it requires you to build some funky power train + weight + downforce combinations. From what I've observed this far: E class - Pretty much anything with a terrible top speed (top speed below 100kmh?) A class - Light vehicles (below 2000kg?) with high top speed (above 100kmh?) and moderate downforce (below 1.0?) S class - A class but downforce above 1.0 C class - Heavy vehicles (above 2000kg?) Take these numbers with a grain of salt tho. They come from me evolving a car during the second campaign, so it may be horsepower instead of top speed and, for example, minimum weight for C class may change depending on the other factors. Either way, if ur looking for a fun class to drive in, C class is probably a good point to aim. Heavy vehicles make them quite challenging to drive so it's likely not as dependent on car quality.
@TheLunarr-TerroPony
@TheLunarr-TerroPony 16 дней назад
kAN: "... 197 km/h is way too fast" Me: *doing 1150 km/h on speed trap* (aero propeller vehicles are broken af xd)
@alex190alex
@alex190alex 20 дней назад
The problem with electric is that it doesn't have as high of RPM's which is why you had the huge drop off at the climbing the hill part at the start of the video. Gas has much higher RPM's just not as amazing acceleration. If you combine Gas and Electric you get best of both worlds
@Varjokissa
@Varjokissa 20 дней назад
Vehicle always wants to turn around of its center of mass. If that point is too close to vehicle's front or rear axle, it will have hard times to turn. :) (little note)
@joelsmall8471
@joelsmall8471 19 дней назад
Multiple modern electric cars have gears, often just 2 but still has gears
@jojogames2259
@jojogames2259 20 дней назад
cant wait to see some of the stuff you build in this game when you get the parts hope you keep up with it
@malhardeadshot6118
@malhardeadshot6118 20 дней назад
That straight race, thats where we need a gear box in electric vehicle, lets say the first gear is the 1:1 ratio, and the next gear is a higher ratio for more speed, coz all that torque at higher end is just useless
@57thorns
@57thorns 20 дней назад
There is one chest towards the end I believe you need a helicopter or specialized climbing vehicle to get to... that is annoying me. I suck at the driving part but I managed to get through the full career anyway.
@thesunnynationg
@thesunnynationg 20 дней назад
you need to finish the game mate. you can do camber and Ackerman angle surely too. I wish you could play this more often.
@moradoandproud
@moradoandproud 19 дней назад
love the vids man, as a suggestion, try making a car that shift from electric to gas. Like this you should have low end torque and high end power.
@Jelissei
@Jelissei 20 дней назад
JustMaki is building a pretty interesting logic track. I would love for you to invite him to a "logic themed zeepkist tracks video" with the bois.
@davidstahlin4077
@davidstahlin4077 19 дней назад
I may have build a car with 12 of the best and 4 of the second best electric engines and I found no way to make it controllable.
@spottedot
@spottedot 20 дней назад
Woot! Love watching you play this one!
@walterroche8192
@walterroche8192 20 дней назад
Heh funny game. 😆 BTW your understeer is caused by your suspension being far too soft in the rear causing weigh transfer and lowering the front tires friction. Furthermore it's not just your rear but all of your suspension isn't setup for turning at speed. Load shifting would only add weigh making the problem & overall performance worse.
@Till-B
@Till-B 20 дней назад
Love the game. Can’t wait to see you go insane with the gears.
@user-gk4ey7ef1e
@user-gk4ey7ef1e 18 дней назад
You should click detail next to your vhecial class
@Hlebuw3k
@Hlebuw3k 20 дней назад
This game is AWESOME, I hope you build a lot of cool stuff! I already sunk 25 hours into it
@Szpryngu795
@Szpryngu795 19 дней назад
10:00 Nah, totally disagree. You only need offroad suspension to drive off-road. Street suspension would be better here, 'cause even if you don't drive on asphalt, the road is flat, with no potholes or bumps.
@felonu2057
@felonu2057 19 дней назад
Am I wrong in that it seems like the game is ok with different motors being at different gear ratios at the same time? That would allow you to have high torque at different ratios without changing gears since you can basically add as many motors as you want.
@coryman125
@coryman125 20 дней назад
I'm really enjoying this series, myself. This game has a great mix of complete building freedom and good driving mechanics. A lot of games are either a bit off in the physics (say, KSP's ground vehicles) or don't have much customisation (like just changing engine power and grip, maybe)
@SthingNes
@SthingNes 19 дней назад
I believe to see specific classes and what they mean is when you open the vechicle chart above the top speed click the class to see specifics
@Pumpnineteen
@Pumpnineteen 20 дней назад
the one thing I really really wish they implemented is the ability of turning off depth of field
@JitsKamps
@JitsKamps 20 дней назад
I have tried chasing the top spot in the last monarch race in s+ class. It is hard, I got to 10th.
@Viirrvill
@Viirrvill 20 дней назад
i finished this career mode in about 99% on first standard suspension and small dirt wheels, the rest felt more like an extra stuff.
@300poundbassman
@300poundbassman 20 дней назад
Whoa!! Kan, that's Wicked. Thank you😇
@mani21axe40
@mani21axe40 20 дней назад
Maybe you could try up gearing just the gas engines to give you a bit more top end, while the electric ones are there for acceleration
@golden.personality
@golden.personality 20 дней назад
These are your best videos bro
@maycon.queiros
@maycon.queiros 20 дней назад
I agree that pursuing records on C or B class is more interesting, above that things get too crazy. Also interested in seeing your solutions for transmission! I'm struggling myself to create something efficient with 4 and 5 gears
@RatedMForMormon
@RatedMForMormon 20 дней назад
After completing the campaign you should look on the workshop and try out some cars
@Structed-2
@Structed-2 19 дней назад
Its crazy, this game is free!
@larsrademakers6070
@larsrademakers6070 19 дней назад
Spoiler alert, you can make camber with the stepper motor
@toddabbott781
@toddabbott781 20 дней назад
Add downforce and maybe double the tires. This will help grip and acceleration. I would do gear shifts... one after the other. Also do the tutorial as you get some parts for free. And some EV do have gears.
@davidgreen3549
@davidgreen3549 20 дней назад
Love this seriesssss
@Electrodoc1968
@Electrodoc1968 20 дней назад
Try doing the part introduction tutorial when you unlock one. I believe you get the part for free.?
@shay5025
@shay5025 20 дней назад
Nice, more screwdrivers. Need two uploads a week!
@fenickungleonza2571
@fenickungleonza2571 20 дней назад
Hi kan been waiting for your Vids on this game
@BeanLord03
@BeanLord03 20 дней назад
Heck yes I was just thinking of this game and hoping for a video.
@patelakshay1320
@patelakshay1320 13 дней назад
Use hybrid system such that there is 3 speed electric power 1st < 1:1 2nd = 1:1 3rd >1:1 directly power ice output then 3 speed at their combined output such that 1st = 1:1 2nd > 1st and 3rd > 2nd here at every ice gear their is electric power to pickup lower end of the gear this will be an amazing system to see
@anteshell
@anteshell 20 дней назад
You really should just keep your throttle full and use handbrake to modulate your speed. That will solve the understeering too.
@Dktizano202
@Dktizano202 20 дней назад
I would be down for an hour playthrough of this 👀
@6Saturn9
@6Saturn9 20 дней назад
If u ever built something in this game, please don't cut it out. Some of us need to learn how to build this stuff (that would be me, yes. 💀)
@lavarsch
@lavarsch 19 дней назад
I wish the game would give you challenges to make you build better vehicles (not like the tech-tree). Because you can just Bronze everything, and get everything.
@Core-1948
@Core-1948 17 дней назад
15:02 say hi to TwoFace everybody
@gmlviper
@gmlviper 20 дней назад
I got curious, and I got the game (its god damn free!).. and with 4 gas engines I managed to get to this level... cool little game.
@vladimirputin3426
@vladimirputin3426 19 дней назад
what I find works best is using gas engines on a 1:1 ratio with electric engines geared for top speed. What this does is basically flip the games intentions where the gas engines provide smooth, strong mid-range power while the electric engines give a solid top end and clear top speed. mid-range acceleration is extremely important in this game's physics engine as it helps maintain speed in a corner, which is where a lot of time can be made up against the AI's and monarchs. ofc the ratios should be adjusted relative to your tier, the blaze 1000 won't need to be 1:1 like the igncores would
@Anton_Noname
@Anton_Noname 20 дней назад
It's funny, but in the game it's the electric motors that suck. And gas engines show maximum characteristics to achieve better acceleration and maximum speed.
@roterex9115
@roterex9115 19 дней назад
top tier gas is better than top tier elec, similar power at 2/3 the weight if you gear it correct.
@snugg1escat676
@snugg1escat676 20 дней назад
Sorry Kan, but the car class rating system does not work in its current iteration. I built a 4tonne truck with 7 motors, and it still gave the same sort of class rating as literally anything else I build
@inputmig6625
@inputmig6625 15 дней назад
btw the gears are only magical for engine orientation and not awd
@snowe..
@snowe.. 20 дней назад
I would like you to watch the tutorials for the parts lol. You keep missing fundamentals that you then spend 30 minutes trying to figure out, when it's explained in about 10 seconds in the tutorials. Also you get free parts from the tutorials. Also the road suspension is better on anything that you're not going over bumps on. that includes dirt, just not 'offroad'. And you can use steering on all four tires to get tighter lines. Quite hard to control though...
@TheDistur
@TheDistur 18 дней назад
You can make multiple vehicles to try things out.
@sopadebronha
@sopadebronha 20 дней назад
Adding more motors is a stupid way to "improve" your vehicle, specially electric motors because you eventually reach a point that the drawback of the weight you add is bigger than the pros of extra power. Weight have a very big impact on acceleration, if you want to have a car with high horsepower, do it with combustion only, combustion engines have way better Power to Weight ratio than electrics. Weight also affects breaking and cornering, heavy cars will have a harder time breaking and will understeer more often, specially with FWD or AWD. The biggest advantage you can get from electric engines is simplifying your powertrain since you won't have to use too much brainpower design efficient gearboxes.
@0Recneps0
@0Recneps0 20 дней назад
Just to let you know you got a really powerful new electric engine from one of the races.
@calebedantas2077
@calebedantas2077 20 дней назад
You probably can destroy the final boss with this car, not gonna lie
@nyspace1
@nyspace1 20 дней назад
the road suspension does pretty good offroad as well, the wheels... not so much... maybe because I am not good at drifting. edit: ranked racing sounds really fun... count me in
@bicuswang5149
@bicuswang5149 20 дней назад
Combustion engines gives more hp per weight than electric
@hippoking8111
@hippoking8111 20 дней назад
I managed to make a car with 195 top and 35 acceleration, and great horse power but it is bulky. I think if i use yours as referance i can make a really good one
@funkymunky7935
@funkymunky7935 20 дней назад
Can you make a helicopter with the wing pieces?
@stephanraevski709
@stephanraevski709 19 дней назад
More screwdrivers PLES
@mathieularocque1953
@mathieularocque1953 20 дней назад
The best engine on a weigth vs power ration is the second gas engine it is crazy the speed you can get with that
@VAJASuxisvili
@VAJASuxisvili 18 дней назад
Bro was like vooooooom now he is like zzoooooom
@solzutv
@solzutv 20 дней назад
13:20 should have watched the introduction cause it would have given you more parts for free
@ExoPhaz
@ExoPhaz 20 дней назад
to get gold in the long straight you need to go from 0- 400 kph in seconds
@anderedaan
@anderedaan 20 дней назад
Im struggling with the turning, any tips on how to get better handling at high speeds?
@cheetahman515
@cheetahman515 20 дней назад
hey kAN can you please revisit Gearblocks? In the last video of that, you said that you had some ideas for combustion engines then
@kelvinelrick807
@kelvinelrick807 20 дней назад
kAN, you're understeering because you've got 4x4 instead of AWD. Since the front and rear wheels are connected.
@sjoervanderploeg4340
@sjoervanderploeg4340 4 дня назад
You never need more engines, you just need better gearing and shifting!
@sjoervanderploeg4340
@sjoervanderploeg4340 4 дня назад
I can make you a car with that gas engine and it will feel great to drive!
@sjoervanderploeg4340
@sjoervanderploeg4340 4 дня назад
Actually, electric cars can use two gears in real life!
@CupolaDaze
@CupolaDaze 20 дней назад
Kan it seems like the bit rate may be a bit low on the video? I know YT compression can cause problems with that but when you are in a menu or not driving it's fine but everything moving everything has lots of compression artifacts. I just watched a few other 1080p videos on this game and it was just yours.
@DanyF02
@DanyF02 20 дней назад
You definitely want to be able to switch gears even with all electric engines. Btw, is it just me or you never tried scrolling up or down while building with nothing selected?
@blanchechrisitan6893
@blanchechrisitan6893 20 дней назад
Second gear shift is automatic shift to the good way like bigger gear into smaller gear will increase accelerator one it reach limit then it auto shift smaller gear into bigger gear to getting more speed but I warming you it only chose smallest ratios to 1 or biggest ratios to 1
@KettleMan1000
@KettleMan1000 20 дней назад
You need to use the gas engines with better gear ratios to get better top speed that is acutally achievable
@ExoPhaz
@ExoPhaz 20 дней назад
with a good vehicle you can do 250-300 around a corner in this game
@GreenTheem
@GreenTheem 20 дней назад
Wait until he learns how big car batteries actually are versus a standard fuel tank I’m all for electric vehicles…at least when we can get better reserve cell technology
@propel8152
@propel8152 20 дней назад
Classes are not based on horse power
@mtbeyker9404
@mtbeyker9404 20 дней назад
Electric is all good untill you wanna store the energy. Luckily, you don"t have that problem in this game.
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 20 дней назад
You start with a lot of gears but most of them don't do anything. Electric engines are good but often using both is just better and in general combustion is better as soon as you have a shifter: With this the low torque at low RPM is no longer an issue as the gearing can increase that so much that you get wheelspin till it shifts up into the range where the combustion-engine has more power.
@kaldo_kaldo
@kaldo_kaldo 20 дней назад
Is this your favorite vehicle building game? Are there any others you'd recommend?
@spinnirack3645
@spinnirack3645 20 дней назад
The small electric engines are better then the small gas engines but the big electric engines are massive and annoying to work with so the big gas engines are the best big engine option
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