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Exactly, is not a fair comparison I don't know who he's trying to fool I track with hardware gear also and the mic plays a big role.

Exactly, the difference we hear is 99% caused by the different microphones not the chain, I have a u87ai and many others mics and preamps.

@@htmr78 the mic is big instrument in the vocal chain lol

Would definitely like to see some future versions of this: same chain but different microphones. Start at the £100 budget end and work up tier to tier. Then we can see if the more expensive gear highlights the pros or cons of the cheaper microphones. If I was to guess you will get to around £400-500 microphones that sound different but arguably as good as the Neumann (i.e. more dependent on the singers voice etc)

would be nice but the comparison also makes sense the way he did it

That's easy. Warm audio is cheap

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I thought his previous setup sounded better as well. I have a UMC204 and dbx 166xs and they work just fine for my projects on a budget.

Agree! His vocal already adapted to the old gears, its part of the vocal chain now.

For the dry sample it held up really good. But once it was processed the old setup sounded horrible.

@@henrikpetersson3463 And we will never know what he applied in that box.

Idk what you're listening on, but there's a pretty stark difference when I'm watching from my studio monitors, and that's considering RU-vid's audio compression for streaming. I'd imagine the difference to be even bigger when you have access to the actual wav files. The bigger budget stuff is warm, smooth, buttery but with an open & airy high end. The low budget setup didn't sound "bad" but it was harsh and electronic-sounding. That NT1A has a brittle high end that I'm not a fan of, but most of the difference in what we're hearing is really in the microphones.

@@juice.engineer I agree. Though, you can’t argue with taste. Well, actually you can, but it’s usually a dead end.

I agree with you. I'm guessing you'd have to be an audio expert and/or be listening on expensive headphones to be able to tell the difference. As for the other 99% of us mortals listening over our phone speakers or cheap headphones, both sound exactly the same 😅

There’s a big difference in warmth and dynamics when it’s mixed correctly. You’re playing yourself thinking “good enough.” Your favorite artist doesn’t think that way.

@@Bexgotthebounce yeah but your favorite artist doesnt record at home nor they mix or master their own stuff. And they obviously have more money to spend. Now, Im not saying there isnt a difference, and any music creator enthusiast should buy stuff they can afford and want to. BUT, the noticable difference for the average listener is nowhere near the money it costs, and you can have all the fun and decent results with cheaper equipment. And if you end up making it big, youll get acess to the best studios anyway.

That's exactly what I was thinking 😂

Ive owned the AT2020 and it sounded good...but you don't really notice the difference in a cheaper mic until you start doing heavy equalizing and compressing. At that point you'll start running into hidden issues. If you run high bit rates and sample rates and heavy equalizing and compression in you'll notice why the TLM103 and U87ai which I own are so much better. But you are totally correct...listening from my phone I couldn't tell...but it did sound like the AT2020 sounded better. Just keep in mind sound and detail are two different things. If you was to listen to this same song in a car with a premium sound system you'd notice the detail and clarity captured by the Neumann mics. I used the AT2020 for years and it's still one of the number one mics that I recommend for beginners and people on a budget...but for those that want Hollywood detail and are using higher bit rates, sample rates, extreme equalizing, heavy compression, and recording in analog, and trying to compete with Hollywood quality and detail...They're definitely going to want a high end mic. Some songs are good...other songs are just hits that you want to play over and over and they just take you away. Maria Carey, Dr Dre, 50 Cent, Migos, and many others use the Sony C800G which is a $15,000 mic... And if you know how to use it it will blow a AT2020 out of the park. To someone that knows nothing about professional equalizing and (analog before converting to digital), and the proper vocal chain...they won't get the best from that mic. 2Pac used a Neumann tube mic on many of his songs. That's one reason why his songs are still hits today. A lot of people think a $200 mic is just as good as the high end stuff then they wonder why when a Hollywood song comes on their music is forgotten. It's the detail. So... Yes...work with what you have but when you get serious and learn the tricks of the professionals in Hollywood invest in yourself. Even upgrading to the TLM103 was a game changer. Much clearer and cleaner mic! But many people confuse brightness with clarity. Brightness is just when you turn up the high frequency. But clarity starts at the mic capsule and internal components and wiring. The capsule in the TLM103 is the same capsule in the $4,000 U87ai but the U87ai is a FET mic (similar warm sweet sound of a Tube Mic...like the Sony C800G). I've also owned the TLM102 which looks like the TLM102 but is smaller and doesn't have the same capsule as the U87ai. The TLM102 is okay but I got rid of mine for the TLM103 which is way better even though they nearly look the same...but like I said people that don't understand dynamics, use extreme compression and equalizing and analog and high bit rates and sample rates will probably never notice. If you don't use that then you won't get the best out of those mics. Everyone records differently. But when you're trying to compete with Hollywood...you take things more serious. If you don't have a lot of money but want compatible detailed mics of Hollywood and big names then check out Warm Audio... They are created in my city and state Austin Texas...They make high detailed mics equipment for like 85% less than the big names.

I giggled! 🤭 You might need ear wax 😅

Hey u helped me 3yrs ago choose a at2020 I’m ready for my final mic forever wa87 r2 or take the leap with u87

Whats the diff between Neve1073 & Warm audio 73?

My current setup.: - Nuemann TLM103 - Apollo X6 - Warm Audio Wa76EQ - Warm Audio Wa2a - Warm Audio Wa76 - SSL Fusion - Heritage Audio Successor I’m thinking about replacing all the Warm Audios with the real Gears, is that even necessary?

@@Covstam big difference. The neve is the real thing while the warm is the imitation.

@@djonlyvibe Yes to take it to the next level.

You do know RU-vid downgrades the quality of the audio through compression 😂

Ima make a video. I use this exact setup. Ima show Yal the difference.

producer/ audio engineer as well here.... I second your advice. retro 176 is by far one of my favorite pieces of gear for vocals. I wouldn't waste money on a hardware LA-2A of any type just due to the fact tat plugin opto compressors are so good now. I think this dude just googled the most popular stuff without experience and blew his youtube money on it just to get more viewers.

Yep the retro 176 is magic … that 500 series retro tube pre on an sm7 is amazing as well. I also agree the warm audio 2A is garbage compared to the LA2A UAD plug-ins … Elam 251 or Sony mic is where the magic is for sure

Very good comment!

Can you give me some advice I have the tlm103 and the neves 1073 I’m doing rap I wanted to get a compressor or get the u87 I don’t know what compressor I should get or if i should get a mic

@@lortakeover2129 get the SSL Bus+ or an 1176 Style compressor... Im not a fan U87, I think they're overrated

You got my points cheers

Fuckn agree!

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It's 🔥 for sure idk about dream though 😂 there's A LOT of gear and chains out there.

You love adverts because that's all these are.

it's definitely not worth every penny. almost all of these items are marketed top-of-line prosumer. You can easily get comparable better results for less. Before buying a ton of expensive gear, just take a minute to talk to someone who's had some recording experience. You'll get much better bang for your buck than what your Sweet Water rep recommends.

I wanted this set up til slate came in the picture

Lolll

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U have no idea ...

@@earjwee nah nah u need to clean them dirty ears my boy 🤣

Me too. But the other is more tame.

Awesome!! 💪🏻

Are you listening on a mobile phone?

They both sound good but usually better gear sounds less like a digital pocket recorder. You get that more polished radio like sound with better gear.

just use fking eq man lol)))

@vladlabyrinth6335 eq can help a lot but you tend to raise the noise floor or you get dynamic resonances with cheaper microphones where at some louder volumes you can hear it almost like a resonating rattle and that can't be fixed with eq. The reason why I use higher end gear is because of how much easier it is to just get the job done.

@@IntheDAW Any mic can have resonances on every voice. And electro voice re20, and kms 105, and u47. But get rid of high pitch freq on shitty at2020 and add a little of the lower end - easy process. In any case, using a microphone that is most suitable for the singer's voice is the right way to go

he crank up the high freqs in the budget one so we can tell the difference :)

Definitely, your magical voice works perfect with nt1a and red interface.

@@gaborb6577 😁🤔🤔 is it right 😎....?? Dont knw.. I am not that much Talented in Sound engineering 😄

Good advice, that's often very much underestimated!

And sometimes, gear makes little or no difference at all.

That’s an interesting set up. Do you have any voice samples we can listen to

@@shingAMarie spoken word or acapella?

@@gabrielthesingingpilot spoken word. Specifically with the schoeps M K4 capsule and Grace audio preamp I would love to hear that.

@@shingAMarie ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L4iconuloy8.html

I use the Audient ID4 for all my vocal mic comparisons and it’s exceptional. The twin is also great, but it’s double the price, if not more. If I was using my money and had to pick, I’m going Audient on this one 🫡

Nah, because he’s being paid by these companies to try and advertise/sell us their most expensive gear. If the plug-ins sounded comparable (they do), he wouldn’t be able to get sponsored gear and hock these expensive products to us ;)

Sweetwater was kind enough to send me a 1073, and since I've always wanted one, I couldn't resist.

@@ImageLaneCC we typically have the gain set depending on the artist and how much saturation we are going for, as that preamp can be clean or tone saturated. However, we have not noticed any distortion unless you are referring to saturation as that can be referred to as the same thing