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I Built NASA's Truss-Braced Wing Concept (Drone Mothership) 

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Комментарии : 725   
@scottmanley
@scottmanley Год назад
Fantastic work, especially on the truss sweep for COG, problem solving at its best.
@bermchasin
@bermchasin 11 месяцев назад
hey scott - have you ever heard of this space game called KSP? jk
@TheVeganarchism
@TheVeganarchism Год назад
2:01 I admire your restraint in choosing the phrase “never really found a home” rather than “never really took off” 😂
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
Haha, yes that crossed my mind.
@andrewkang6081
@andrewkang6081 Год назад
@@thinkflight 😅🎉Yudjibing
@stefanpynappels7959
@stefanpynappels7959 Год назад
To be fair, it took off plenty...
@mandowarrior123
@mandowarrior123 Год назад
​@@thinkflight this project was a flight of fancy
@billharshbarger7191
@billharshbarger7191 Год назад
the v-tail goes SO WELL with the strut brace. gorgeous plane! if it looks good it flys good!
@agn855
@agn855 Год назад
…that’s the motto I’m always thinking off at the time I see (an image of) the Me262
@TheJustinJ
@TheJustinJ Год назад
If it looks good motto dose not apply in aviation. That was how all of the aircraft of the 1920s-30s were built and they are all unanimously deathtraps that are slow and sluggish and overall terrible. If its designed well, and built well, and tested well, and modified rationally, it will fly good.
@nntflow7058
@nntflow7058 Год назад
Is it more beneficial compared to the standard T-tail?
@nntflow7058
@nntflow7058 7 месяцев назад
It looks good, but realistically speaking. T-tail would be more realistic.
@nntflow7058
@nntflow7058 2 месяца назад
I would say, while it looks good, it's probably not gonna be suitable for these type of aircraft. T-Tail seems to be the perfect solution for such wing design.
@ludovicbon5903
@ludovicbon5903 Год назад
There is an interesting motorized sailplane with braced wings made in France in 1967, the Chapeaux-Durand CXD-18 . The struts are profiled and mobile to also serve as ailerons, flaps and airbrakes . She's displayed at the air museum of Angers-Marcé in France .
@bradycope2332
@bradycope2332 Год назад
So cool
@Br1cht
@Br1cht Год назад
I´ve often wondered why this isn´t standard, why not use the available area?
@alainzen6279
@alainzen6279 Год назад
Double emploi..je supprime
@tomdebom1346
@tomdebom1346 Год назад
@@Br1cht The struts are at a relatively steep angle to the plane (both definitions of plane), so by putting control surfaces on them, I imagine the control surface will not perform very well and would just induce drag. Just a guess tho, im not a aerodynamics expert
@OfficiallySnek
@OfficiallySnek Год назад
If you told me that the footage of the plane flying was from a video game, I would have believed you
@heygek2769
@heygek2769 Год назад
Death Stranding vibes.
@danielrunyon4830
@danielrunyon4830 Год назад
I'm so glad to have experienced the progression of games, and witness an era where this is a serious comment.
@28th_St_Air
@28th_St_Air Год назад
@4:29 the cinematographer is quietly freezing to death but carries on. Nice bonus footage. Gotta love how CA can look like a lush paradise at this time of year and especially with all the rain we’ve had.
@KF99
@KF99 Год назад
Your designs are absolutely awesome! They inspire me to continue this hobby and build more and more advanced projects.
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
Mission accomplished then!
@glike2
@glike2 Год назад
@@thinkflight I remember when my colleague at Boeing was working on SugerVolt. Where are you in SoCal? I would love to meet up and discuss other stuff to model that might make a great video... Super impressed with your projects. What's your engineering background? I have Cal Poly SLO Aeronautical Engineering BS 1995, and some MS Mechanical engineering courses. An RT Jone style Oblique flying wing with adjustable engine and vertical stabilizers would be a great project.
@miniman3112
@miniman3112 Год назад
The end footage looks way too good, almost detached from reality and more like a render. The absurdly beautiful scenery, the super clean looking build and how the drone zips around the plane effortlessly like a camera controlled by a mouse in software. Very surreal :D
@alargebeaver
@alargebeaver Год назад
I thought so too!
@KristovMars
@KristovMars Год назад
Yeah I got that feeling too, I expect it's helped by that amazing green of the fields below contrasting so well with the aircraft's paint scheme.
@pa0lo0_
@pa0lo0_ Год назад
@@KristovMars so much rain recently in cali it’s amazing
@KristovMars
@KristovMars Год назад
@@pa0lo0_ Yeah my part of South Australia looks like this for about two weeks on a good year
@KristovMars
@KristovMars Год назад
@@pa0lo0_ Yeah my part of South Australia looks like this for about two weeks on a good year
@toastrecon
@toastrecon Год назад
Dude. the turnaround on the design and build is nuts. Nice work.
@robbudden
@robbudden Год назад
You've rapidly become one of my favourite youtubers and I have ZERO interest in actually flying or making a drone myself. You're eloquent, educational and engaging. Great work!
@stratos2
@stratos2 Год назад
Love your work. Absolutely insane. I'd love to see some more deep dives too, maybe a second channel where you explain the intricacies of how you designed your planes?
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
Maybe one day!
@eelcohoogendoorn8044
@eelcohoogendoorn8044 Год назад
Was going to say the same thing; super impressed with the speed and quality at which you design and build things, and id love to see more of that.
@bobirving6052
@bobirving6052 Год назад
Check some of the previous videos. How to build the Graugans is really good.
@bbrockert
@bbrockert Год назад
Impressive work. Replacing the drop bay doors with clear plastic would help with the auto exposure problem and make for interesting video.
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
Clever idea.
@AntiVaganza
@AntiVaganza Год назад
That;s a great idea!
@Patriottoo2
@Patriottoo2 Год назад
Awesome achievements! Flight is so fascinating. I was marveling, just yesterday, while watching a foursome of Canada geese amble around our neighborhood. I was thinking how marvelous are their wings, which fold up to exactly the right dimensions, perfectly conforming to their bodies, and providing insulation. Then, if spooked, the wings extend instantly, and explosively launch the large-bodied birds into the air... a miracle of nature's design.
@kennethmcneil9540
@kennethmcneil9540 Год назад
Weird moment here, I work at NASA Langley and have seen these types of models before but never knew what it was all about. I come across a RU-vid video and it is easily explaining what I see at work. So props on you man.
@minecrafter0505
@minecrafter0505 Год назад
I love that truss-based plane! Looks like it handles beautifully, too. For 3D-printing some parts for your planes, you should take a look at the technique Tom Stanton is using for his 3D printed RC planes, he found a way to balance weight and stability really well.
@tolson57
@tolson57 Год назад
Beautiful Aircraft. Never seen the Moreno Valley look so green.
@nagasako7
@nagasako7 Год назад
You just saved NASA and Boeing Millions. Truss-Braced works. GO TO FULL 747 or 787 Truss production!
@WindCatcherRC
@WindCatcherRC Год назад
Regardless of efficiency gained or not, it's a beautiful airplane. Great job on this project! Thanks for sharing.
@HolbrookAerospace
@HolbrookAerospace 5 месяцев назад
These trailing cam shots on this aircraft make me happy. I watch this video whenever it comes up on my feed. The aircraft is beautiful and I always enjoy watching it fly again.
@MrApru1
@MrApru1 Год назад
Put strips of 30 grit sand paper on the upper leading edge of those small drop ships. The small bumps act as turbulators and energize the boundary layer keeping flow attached and vastly improving flying characteristics.
@TheDorazio
@TheDorazio Год назад
Thinking you might want to try spring-loaded wing extensions on the micro drone with a pull-pin trigger when it drops out of the bay. The flight dynamics with the kind of profile and size you have now to fit in the bay are probably always going to suck.
@adamrosenberg4367
@adamrosenberg4367 Год назад
Oooh! Yeah do a swing-wing micro B-1 for the drop drone!
@cornrichard
@cornrichard Год назад
I could not click away from the B roll footage at the end. I could put that on a loop and give it 45 minutes of my time. Thanks.
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
My pleasure!
@nonsequitor
@nonsequitor Год назад
Amazing video as always. Thank you. One thing tho: what's the difference between strut and truss braced? You kinda skimmed over that part - it looked like truss means strut plus extra support (which is what a truss is) but your design has no trusses 🤷‍♂️🙏
@bradycope2332
@bradycope2332 Год назад
Yes! I was worried I missed something. Would love to understand this concept.
@robertheinrich2994
@robertheinrich2994 Год назад
fun fact: you connected the truss brace to the engine nacelle to reduce drag at the joint. if somebody at boeing comes up with that idea now and tries to get a patent for it: thanks, due to this video, it's prior art. but I guess, there were already planes with such a configuration so that doesn't really matter.
@noeatnosleep
@noeatnosleep Год назад
Thank you for the extra footage :)
@Hobz79
@Hobz79 Год назад
Awesome plane! Really took it to the next level by also giving a small drone to drop, which I look forward to seeing more of. Not a new concept, but I wonder how well the truss being swept back so far could double as a replacement for the v-tail by putting control surfaces on it. Would be less stable being so close to the wing, but that's what computers are for and might be worth the loss in drag :)
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
I think that is an awesome idea!
@roboman2444
@roboman2444 Год назад
A bright LED turning on inside the bay a few seconds before opening the doors could help with the camera's white balance being blown-out by the sudden change in brightness.
@revolutionarythinker
@revolutionarythinker Год назад
What you should do ... Build same weight similer size airplane with regular configuration with 4 channel control Use FDR for both input and attitude recording (record both input and attitude simultaniously, may be tap signal from potentiometer of servos) Conduct data gathering on headon wind and zero throttle condition and min throttle condition Observe sink rate and glide slope,
@captain61games49
@captain61games49 Год назад
I'm quite glad you added that footage at the end
@upaiaq
@upaiaq Год назад
I always feel smarter after watching your videos.
@56Seeker
@56Seeker Год назад
So what's the difference between a strut and a truss? Is it a compression/tension thing, or???
@mandowarrior123
@mandowarrior123 Год назад
No it is ambiguous, strut harkens back to timber. I'd argue it is neither as it is a lifting plane, so a support wing or something might make more sense.
@simonl7784
@simonl7784 Год назад
Thanks TF for another great vid. I really liked the last little drop plane and looking forward to seeing more "minis"
@vegasflyboy67
@vegasflyboy67 Год назад
"I could barely wait to fly the plane" Love that feeling. Great design!
@seancollins5769
@seancollins5769 Год назад
Love your work! It would be awesome to see more of the build process, even if it's just pictures and some narration. The scenery, music, and the elegant plane made this video so beautiful!!!
@fazrulrusdi3709
@fazrulrusdi3709 Год назад
Totally agreed... Pls consider the suggestion
@BPlus-oz7cm
@BPlus-oz7cm Год назад
I go bike riding where your closing footage was shot. I love how far away from it all I feel back there. Beautiful mothership you made there!
@LoanwordEggcorn
@LoanwordEggcorn Год назад
Thanks! It flies very nicely!
@SeeLasSee
@SeeLasSee 5 месяцев назад
Thanks! It was a lovely video and I respect your curiosity and applied creativity.
@thinkflight
@thinkflight 5 месяцев назад
Gratitude!
@jackglossop4859
@jackglossop4859 Год назад
Your footage is incredible brother. That thing flies like a dream.
@Ben_Fett
@Ben_Fett Год назад
2:40 "This won't be hitting Mach0.8 on purpose" is such a maker thing to say, I love it.
@aleecx_
@aleecx_ Год назад
Impressive filming at the end. Keep it up!
@Ambilition
@Ambilition Год назад
It truly is so very, very cool. Compared to other models people have build this on looks simply special.
@ShahriarFarkhan
@ShahriarFarkhan 7 месяцев назад
Beautiful work!! This was so much fun to watch
@microbuilder
@microbuilder Год назад
Love the micro models, looking forward to seeing what you come up with!
@SnowingNapalm
@SnowingNapalm 8 месяцев назад
it's a great idea for going beyond materials properties constraints for length... like massive hauler planes that need extra long runways
@rickblackwell6435
@rickblackwell6435 Год назад
Despite having watched Scott Manley’s video, I learned a lot of new things from you. Thank-you.
@fryingsquirrelXNA
@fryingsquirrelXNA Год назад
I'm quite new to your channel, however I've been watching RCtestflight, Tom Stanton, Peter Sripol, and flight test for years. RC test flight led me here. I've gotta say that that plane is a thing of beauty, I look forward to seeing your developments.
@scoutworks
@scoutworks Год назад
My Dad has built small balsa gliders since he was a kid and one thing he is adamant on is that you can scale down the airplane, but you can't scale down the air. It's interesing watching someone else come to the same conclusions many decades after he did, especially someone with an education in it!
@slammerf16
@slammerf16 Год назад
The use of the engine pods as structural members to reduce drag was a really elegant touch. Thank you!
@willowehrich6207
@willowehrich6207 Год назад
This is AMAZING! I have been really interested in this for awhile and have been wanting to build some versions for myself. It was really great seeing what you did with this one!
@mcmann7149
@mcmann7149 Год назад
All flight projects that I've attempted have the same starting point around me finding an interesting Scott Manley video to watch.
@R3dp055um
@R3dp055um Год назад
Most impressive, as always. Your videos are consistently worth watching.
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
Glad you think so!
@burbman60
@burbman60 Год назад
Put your glass fabric on at 45deg (draped on the bias) it'll allow both warp and weft fibers to contribute to stiffness, and you'll be able to get the fabric to lay down over the airfoil a lot easier. piece of unidirectional tape in a shallow groove under cloth for spar cap on top and bottom. Love this aircraft!!!
@burbman60
@burbman60 Год назад
your video makes me want to give up all my hobbies and go back to aviation and composites.
@TrogdorBurnin8or
@TrogdorBurnin8or Год назад
There are other side benefits to this sort of approach with model aviation. A significant issue for scaling up RC to larger sizes for most people, and sailplanes to higher aspects ratios in particular, is "How do I fit it in the car". Mostly they resolve this with short reinforced spars connected by insertable carbon fiber struts, heavy features which defeat some of the goals of the light sailplane approach. This design has built-in hardpoints for wing attachment and mass-efficiently minimizes wing flex.
@techstuff6829
@techstuff6829 Год назад
I'm curious why you chose to use a push/pull configuration for the props rather than single larger props. Is it to allow the use of smaller props, or is there some other benefit?
@masterpye69
@masterpye69 Год назад
Hi, I was amazed by your model! In 2014 I designed an almost identical aircraft with 80+ students of Cranfield University, UK, in part of our Group Design Project of the MSc Aerospace Vehicle Design. We named it "AT-13 Albatross ", you can find a rendered video of the project if you type this: AT-13 Albatross - MSc Aerospace Vehicle Design (AVD - Cranfield University) I was responsible of the Flaps design and part of the Physical model team (but not flying RC model). I hope we will see such low-emission civil aircraft in a close future!
@BrianSFischer
@BrianSFischer Год назад
I love that you went with a lifting body. My dad worked on the full-size lifting bodies and restored the M2-F1 for the Smithsonian.
@mattrehm8612
@mattrehm8612 Год назад
The plane looks beautiful. Lovely design.
@nlagas
@nlagas Год назад
Omg. Why do I discover your channel only now? Brilliant.
@TimoBirnschein
@TimoBirnschein Год назад
"So I decided to make an airplane [...] here is the airplane" :D You're a master in your field! Very much enjoying your videos!
@an_R_key
@an_R_key Год назад
Awesome build. I'd love to see more about you using HD-Zero and ELRS for this. Those are what I'm thinking of using.
@chrisoakey9841
@chrisoakey9841 Год назад
I suggested this type about 2 years ago. But if you split the wing you can get rid of the tail. By putting the front wing sweeping backard from above to meet a forward swept wing from under near the rear. If they meet at a winglet you get lift advantages as well as strength and added flap low speed lift. As the lift is further back,and the wings sweep back, it should be possible to create supersonic planes that glide. I would love to see one like my idea trialed
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
Somebody on discord was talking about the same thing, I least I think you guys are describing the same idea. I think its an amazing idea.
@chrisoakey9841
@chrisoakey9841 Год назад
@@thinkflight it derived for me from the delta wing drawback for climb and maneuvering, and the slow speed lift advantages of flaps with gaps, or cascading multiple wings. the other cool things are if you put a rudder on the outer winglet you get good bang for your buck, and you can have both wings pretensioned. this will stiffen them further. i would love to see a full size electric aircraft with glide characteristics of 20-1. and i saw a guy who made a maglev planetary blade so you get venturi effect through the center, and make most use of the outer edge of a fan for thrust. between the 2, subsonic travel should be extremely cheap.
@BasedF-15Pilot
@BasedF-15Pilot Год назад
Your bottom truss continuous spar will be stronger in a continuous and smooth U-shape so you can take advantage of the arch and keystone strength and load distribution. (Think bridge or old school archway) It looks like your current design uses multiple pieces with a 30 or so degree angle connecting a smaller fuselage piece with the longer wing connection pieces, and while it looks well made, the load will be concentrated on the angles.
@AppleGameification
@AppleGameification Год назад
the person helping you film whispering to the camera is super endearing :)
@k4x4map46
@k4x4map46 Год назад
heck yeah!! the coolest part all that lush greenery afoot!!
@brian1204
@brian1204 Год назад
That flies so well!
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Год назад
Love your projects, they are so cool, the fast pace you have and the great engineering involved, so nice! 👍💪✌
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
Thank you very much!
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Год назад
@@thinkflight just my honest opinion. I thank you!
@marcdepiolenc1880
@marcdepiolenc1880 Год назад
It is not aspect ratio that reduces induced drag - it's span. Reducing chord is simply to minimize wing area.
@toddpeterson5904
@toddpeterson5904 Год назад
"V-tails look cool, so that guarantees that it will perform better" 😆
@josgraha
@josgraha Год назад
dang, I always learn so much from every one of your videos, thank you so much!
@kuben_alt6464
@kuben_alt6464 Год назад
The drone footage was breathtaking. You reminded me why I was so crazy about airplanes as a kid.
@x.i.p8410
@x.i.p8410 Год назад
Congrats bro 🎉🎉🎉
@deanedeane4318
@deanedeane4318 8 месяцев назад
What a beautiful looking and flying plane !!! 😉😎
@SnowingNapalm
@SnowingNapalm 8 месяцев назад
it's like a lifting body just takes the airspeed and adds weight carry capacity or low speed floating unloaded
@GlideLA
@GlideLA Год назад
Cool to see you at Andy Jackson Airpark. You have enviable talent.
@franzperez9145
@franzperez9145 Год назад
Great Presentation Questions 1. Did you get a longer range distance with the truss brace than you would without it? 2. The opposite propellers are better performance than a single propeller on each motor? Does it consume same current ? 3. What % of weight loss reduction did you get with the truss brace ? I would imagine that you conducted separate tests on the UAV. That is, one with the truss brace and one without it?
@IAMSatisfied
@IAMSatisfied Год назад
Beautiful build... thanks for sharing!
@FenwynFlies
@FenwynFlies Год назад
What an incredible project!
@typxxilps
@typxxilps Год назад
looks clean and streight, just beautiful on ground and in the air, espescially the footage at the end I had not expected. But Southern California offers also a much better weather situation than in most others places were we had 20 cm of fresh snow last Saturday - after a few days with 15°C at the end of February.
@camofelix
@camofelix Год назад
This is wicked! Well done mate!
@flare242
@flare242 Год назад
This is absolutely amazing!
@redboot3911
@redboot3911 Год назад
AWESOME video! Happy to smack that like button. Also great sarcasm during your design explanations 😂
@felixaudet5860
@felixaudet5860 Год назад
If there was a way to liquefy metal without it getting hot, you'd just have to "spray paint" titanium directly on a foam structure. You'd end up with an incredibly strong structure at very low cost.
@RegebroRepairs
@RegebroRepairs Год назад
That mothership looks really cool, and seems to fly really well!
@justincase5272
@justincase5272 Год назад
Reynold's numbers are why small fliers like bees make do with stubby wings. 😀
@BuckeyeStormsProductions
@BuckeyeStormsProductions Год назад
I just watched a Mark Rober video about Zipline drones doing deliveries. Their system in Africa parachutes stuff in, but looking at your setup, I wonder if a lifting body system could help better pinpoint the landing. Seriously, your system that you built here looks ready to be put into commercial use providing needed medical supplies in remote communities, or those cutoff from the outside world due to disaster.
@danbo98042
@danbo98042 Год назад
I really enjoy seeing your projects! Regarding your videos - please level out the volume from one clip to the next. It really takes the fun out of watching a video when I have to dive for the mute button. Thanks! Keep up with the cool experiments!
@thinkflight
@thinkflight Год назад
when I'm editing it sounds even. what parts in particular were annoying volume-wise?
@CourtneyRoberts1982
@CourtneyRoberts1982 Год назад
The lightweight PLA is very temperature dependent, including the temperature of the surroundings. It will foam almost none at 190C and a LOT at 240C, I have to turn flow down to 40% when turning the temp up to 240 as it will foam a lot more. Heat causes a chemical reaction releasing CO2 that gets trapped in the PLA, hence my reference to foam.
@youreinacoma3009
@youreinacoma3009 Год назад
@6:25 this feels verty from the depths-y. deploy the flying squirrels!
@loganhouse6984
@loganhouse6984 Год назад
amazing wonerful invention here
@GamebossUKB
@GamebossUKB 2 месяца назад
2:23 I don’t know why but I found this ridiculously funny
@stuartwood7252
@stuartwood7252 Год назад
I look forward to your videos. Great content, on my wavelength. I also use the honey comparison when trying to explain Reynolds number. In you we truss.... Stu Wood. Vic. Australia
@emerychandler
@emerychandler Год назад
On the subject of the micro FPV plane. Dropping it out by the side isn’t the best for controlled flight. Dropping it with the fuselage horizontally parallel to the mothership is best. With this said, having it launch with 3 to 5 degrees nose down may provide better initial control. Testing that could be a wonderful project.
@KristovMars
@KristovMars Год назад
First time viewer, first time commenter, immediate subscriber. I really like your style, it has a genuine integrity and honesty that feels lacking in a lot of "content creator" style videos in the UAV hobby space on RU-vid. I look forward to devouring your catalogue and to what comes next - keep up the great work!
@peterhoughton69
@peterhoughton69 Год назад
you truly are a great maker
@dennisdonoghue7854
@dennisdonoghue7854 Год назад
Thank you @Think Flight! I always enjoy your videos. The extremely grainy videos reminded me of early space footage, which is very nostalgic.
@jp7147
@jp7147 Год назад
I always skip through ads. But not this time. You actually made it a little fun and interesting. 👍
@aryanthacker
@aryanthacker Год назад
Could you please do a video on your building methods? I really want to know how you get the curved junctions between the wing and body.
@marcelodt9291
@marcelodt9291 Год назад
Gorgeous scenery
@EdwardChew
@EdwardChew Год назад
That is so beautiful where you were flying!
@Gibbo263
@Gibbo263 Год назад
For my dissertation I developed a closed wing aircraft, that was essentially a tailless biplane, showed decent aerodynamic potential, fairly low drag when compared to types with a similar front cross-section
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